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Fast USB Charging on O2 XDA Mini

HI Friends
Do you hv any software to carry out fast USB Charging option, to charge my XDA with same speed as done by AC Adapter...
I have seen that other WM2003 models has this option.... like in HP 6515..
Thanks
Manmohan

Interesting... I've got a desktop holder which has to modes: charge-only and normal sync/charge mode. I wonder wether charge-only mode "enables" fast charging or wether the AC adapter does something special...

If i'm not mistaken, the typical USB port outputs 5V of power at 500mAh (milliamp-hours). And in my case, my shipped charger outputs 5V at 1000mAh . using the supplied charger would charge my Magician twice as fast compared to the USB (explanation below). I think even USB2.0 ports still give out power at 500mAh.
The Magician's battery is rated at 1200mAh. Charging through the PC's USB port would take roughly 2.4 hours. Using the supplied charger, it would take 1.2 hours. Simple equation for charging is, battery rating (mAh) divided by charger rating [so that's 1200mAh/500mAh for USB]. Disregard the voltage for now unless you plan to make your own standard/portable charger. Rule of thumb, refrain charging the battery with a higher mAh rated charger.. It will damage the battery in the long run.
Hope this helps. Cheers!
Although if you could somehow control charging via software that'd be a nifty tool...

i doubt it since max current USB can provide is 500mah as any more would damage the port and probably the board.

Hello
Yup, jedhonx your right! Its the amount of power supplied! There is no way that you could use a software to charge the device in USB at faster rates.
The only way it could be thought of is like, if your device processor is running at certain spped, it consumes some power. When it runs at lower speed, it consumes lesser power and so if the software could make your processor run low or to shut down other programs maybe would show you an incresed speed of charging!
Regards
Carty..

what about taking two usb ports with such a hard disk cable?

snudel said:
what about taking two usb ports with such a hard disk cable?
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One of the following three thing WILL happen if ALL of them...
1-Fried Motherboard
2-Fried Battery
3-Fried Device
The first can happen because the USB ports will send energy to each other, the other two because voltage WILL duplicate... Think like this, when you have a device that uses "normal" batteries like a remote or a portable cd-player that uses two or more 1.5V batteries they use it because the device works with 3V (2*1.5V batteries)... Hope I made myself clear, because my english is quite rusty...

c3l5o said:
The first can happen because the USB ports will send energy to each other, the other two because voltage WILL duplicate... Think like this, when you have a device that uses "normal" batteries like a remote or a portable cd-player that uses two or more 1.5V batteries they use it because the device works with 3V (2*1.5V batteries)... Hope I made myself clear, because my english is quite rusty...
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Well if you link USB ports to increase voltage it's true that it'll probably kill the mb. But linking 2 UBS connectors to increase amps is no problem and often done. You end up getting 5V 1A output. You could even link more ports to further increase the maximum supplied amps, alltough I never tested more than 3.
Linking 2 ports in a way that increases amps will NOT fry the mb, will NOT fry the battery and will NOT fry the device.
I'd say give it a try and see if it charges quicker.

Actually I think it depends on how many separate USB chips are connected to the USB ports. On one chip (or better say channel) can be more than one port be connected on the computer (like with a passive hub). In that case, connecting two USB cables in parallel doesn't change anything. Otherwise you could connect the cables in parallel and simply get more current at the same voltage (not to mix up with setting batteries in serial).
There are USB chips on the market that supply more than the specified 500mAh, but I suppose the Magician itself detects a USB connection to the computer. I remember that the first ROMs could only be loaded by USB chargers when Pin5 was connected to Ground, which was never necessary when a real USB connection was established to the computer. USB connections to the computer only use 4 Pins. This tells me that the Magician distinguishes between a connection to the charger and a connection via PC USB and limits the power drain correspondingly. If that is the case, connecting a cable with two USB ports doesn't help, it's still recognized as PC USB connection by the Magician.

it maybe OOT, but still relates. my magician can only be charged by usb cables. wont work on ac adapter. it has been going for few months and it really bugging me since it takes 4 hours to charge through usb cables.
i did try hard reset and no change .

HI Friends
I appreciate that you are trying all your mind to find the solution..
I believe that O2 provied AC Adapter wont pass additional current to screw up the battery life as it is provided by O2 Manufacturer itself. If Adapter takes 2 Hrs to completely charge the O2 Mini, then this can be done by USB cable also.
Also if you see in any other PDA running windows mobile 5 you will see an option of "fast USB Charging"..
It means that it can be done, but we need to find out how it can be done.
Thanks

USB charging

I've noticed when I have my tablet plugged into my computer via USB it doesn't appear to be charging. The battery icon is showing a red lightning bolt. This is different than when I have my tab plugged into a wall socket.
Working as intended or..?

Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.

foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Good to know! thanks for your help

just be prepaired to wait a while to gain any % hahaha

Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000

SacTilt said:
Order one of these and then you can charge it from your PC/laptop... or any other USB port for that matter:
USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000
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That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.

can use this cable... Y TYPE USB CABLE A MALE to A FEMALE CONNECTOR 2 TO 1. enough power now? y can find it on bay...

ebk71 said:
That adapter does not convert the power, as stated by foxbat, usb from pc won't deliver enough power.
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It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.

USB Charger
Have also use this USB charger Adapter Cable For Samsung GALAXY Tab p1000. Works great.

currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks

foxbat121 said:
Your PC USB port can't supply enough juice (500ma max) compare to your wall socket (>2000ma) to charge while power the tab. Turn the tab off and your will get some charge off the USB port.
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Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)

marcham93 said:
Ahh thanks! Was wondering why it wouldn't charge via my USB port.
(In fact using my Samsung Focus USB adapter for the outlet doesn't seem to work either... I need to use only the Samsung Tab USB adapter)
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The focus charger is rated only about 700ma (same exact one as Captivate/SGS), marginablly better than PC USB. GT 10.1 has a rather large battery and hence it requires much larger charge current. You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?

jaoropez said:
currently having thea similiar,but not same problem; bought this cable of of amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EAEQR4 and while icon indicates its charging, % is not going up at all, mayb 1% per hour or so... am ready to return it, but want to know if anyone else is experiencing similiar problems with a longer cable?
thanks
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Is that through the orginal AC adapter or through PC USB?

Turning off the tablet and charging it via USB works, but it takes forever!

SacTilt said:
It's been charging my tab for about a month now with no problems at all, but I'm not here to argue, if you feel that you know more than I do. I've charged the tablet using that adapter from my laptop, PC, and Energizer XP4001 Power Pack.
You might also search the forums, as I'm not the only one to recommend and use this item.
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And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.

ebk71 said:
And you are not the only one who is waiting twice as long before his tab is fully charged. Then we can open a topic "Why does it take so long before my tab is charged?" As foxbat stated: You don't see any laptop get charged via USB, do you?
So if I say your adapter doesn't work its just as accurate as your answer it does work.
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Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.

First of all, not all USB ports are equal.
On many modern PCs, the USB ports can deliver more than 500mA over USB if required. This is definitely true for pretty much all Macs since 2007, and quite a few mainboards from other manufacturers (see this article for some background).
Secondly, I've had one of these adaptors for quite a while now, and have used it regularly to charge my Galaxy Tab 7" which uses exactly the same power supply and cables as the GT 10.1. I can categorically state that when using this adaptor, it the GT7 does charge from a Macbook Air and a 5000mAh external battery that has a 1A output USB port labelled for an iPad.
Whilst it might not be as quick as the wall charger, it is definitely much faster than attempting to charge the GT7 from the same devices without the adaptor, even if the device is in use.
I've not formally tried to charge my GT10.1 with it yet, but I did check to see if the "not-charging" indicator went away (which it did), so I rather presume it will work much like the GT7.
Regards,
Dave

SacTilt said:
Hey, I'm not here to argue with you. I'm just an idiot.
Go about your business, and don't listen. I'm ok with that.
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You don't need to embarrass yourself by saying you're an idiot, It's very childish and the second time you mention I'm supposed to be smarter then you. I'm sorry you take this so personally.

i just use the supplied cable and it charges via usb on my computer. it shows not charging, but it basically trickle charges when the tab is both on and off

usb charging by your laptop or PC

Hi, everybody.
i just buy a samsung galaxy tab 7.7 and just noticed only can be charged by using the power socket provided by samsung.
now i found a way to charge your tab by your laptop or PC through samsung STANDARD USB DATA CABLE cable.
First, download the software (ASUS Ai Charger) attached:
Second, just install and enjoy to charge your tablet through use cable.
FYI, battery indicator still showing no charging but actually it is charging.
you can check after one minute by viwing the remaining power up.
Thanks.

Is this software just raise yr usb port mah to certain amount?
If so, will this harm the computer?
Sent from my GT-P6800 using XDA Premium HD app

My tab charges when plugged into my computer without that (or any similar software, only Kies and AOSP USB drivers installed). It doesn't show charging but the charge definitely goes up. Does that software actually make it charge faster? I have to say, I'm pretty dubious.

I would recommended getting the following adapter, I originally bought it for my original tab and was able to charge via the laptop with no problem. It charges as fast as the wall charger.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-car-wal...Accessories&hash=item2c5c07736b#ht_3171wt_927
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actually i installed this software in order to charge my IPAD2. below is the description from the ASUS website: With the exclusive ASUS Ai Charger, all of your motherboards, and desktops become universal chargers for your iPod, iPhone and now, the new iPad. Ai Charger turns any PC into a flexible power-up station for popular Apple devices through a simple USB connector, extending their usability and benefit in every lifestyle. Charging goes up to and smoother while you do your work or have fun – whether at home or on the go. The Ai Charger software is available for a variety of chipsets and motherboards from ASUS as well as all desktops, so just click and prepare for even more enjoyment! .
my tablet is charged well.
Thanks

Thanks for the info.

Though it must be noted that you need an Asus motherboard for this, my Gigabyte provides 1A front USB ports thats where I charge the Tab7.7 I'll try if there is any difference real world difference if I plug it into one of the regular USB ports.

I accidentally found out I was able to charge from my Mac without using this special software as follow:
I bought an external battery, New Trent IMP99D (Amazon Link) and it came with a special USB extension cable (picture below) that is designed for the Tab 10.1. If I plug the GT7+ directly to the IMP99D without using the extension cable, NO charging takes place. However, if I use the extension cable, charging works.
I connect the extension cable to my MacBook Air, connect the GT7+ charging cable and the tablet and... VOILA.. it's charging! HoneyComb even reported that it is an "AC Charging" and it charge pretty fast.
So you can either
a). Buy the battery and it comes with the cable
b). Buy JUST THE CABLE, model IMP44B (manufacturer link here)

3w.pisen.com.cn/picture/show/887.shtm l (use translate
I've ordered thus one. will see uf will charge the 6800 with the 30pin cable to computer usb...

If you just want to charge via pc you can turn off your device, this way will work.
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I recharge the battery using my pc all the time... just connect it with the USB cable and that's it... no software or anything like that... The tablet battery Icon does have a strange X on it but it still charges the phone (AHHuummm, Tablet) just like the electric plug thingy...

USB 3.0 Charging

The Note 3 is the first phone to come with USB 3.0 support, the cable and connector are up to spec.
What I'm wondering if this helps with the charging speed, as the wall charger doesn't seem to be with a USB 3.0 connector.
Does anyone have any insight to this?
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The wall charger has a 2Ah power output while a pc usb 3.0 port has a maximum output of 900mAh. If you use an USB 2.0 port it's only 500mAh.
The best way to recharge the Note 3 is to use the wall charger.

s1m4an said:
The Note 3 is the first phone to come with USB 3.0 support, the cable and connector are up to spec.
What I'm wondering if this helps with the charging speed, as the wall charger doesn't seem to be with a USB 3.0 connector.
Does anyone have any insight to this?
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From a dedicated charger the final charging current is normally determined by the PHONE + CHARGER based on how the phone "recognizes" the charger as good/bad (and what battery level you already have + how warm the battery is) and how much power the charger can provide. I believe the max that I have seen on my Note 3 was 1800 mA (which worked with both USB3 cables but also with some good USB2 cables).
From a PC the charging current is the result of a more complex negotiation, the phone can still have "the last word" but it can not go over 500 mA on USB2 or 900 mA on USB3.
Somehow related - please note that on USB3 DATA you STILL need to MANUALLY enable USB3 mode EVERY TIME YOU PLUG TO THE PC. Even if enabled the mode will be reset to USB2 in 10 minutes and lost if you remove and plug-in again. That being said on my Thinkpad I have not seen it charging over 450 mA even when on USB3 under Win7 (but the speed difference exists, so USB3 is correctly triggered).
Also please note that the life of the battery can be heavily influenced by the charging current - the smaller the charging current the more cycles the battery will last on the very long term. Also high temperatures are pretty bad for the battery. So if you are in no hurry it is always better to charge with a small USB2 current that is guaranteed to not go over 500 mA.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough, I'm wondering if the wall charger is utilizing the USB 3.0 capability, and if there's any advantage of using the USB 3 cable over a regular micro USB cable.
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No, there is not. The Note 3 has a USB 3.0 port, but it is only faster for data transfer. Charging is done at 2.0 speed, not 3.0. Regardless of what you attach it to, it charges just as fast as a 2.0 device.

TheBeast1981 said:
The wall charger has a 2Ah power output while a pc usb 3.0 port has a maximum output of 900mAh. If you use an USB 2.0 port it's only 500mAh.
The best way to recharge the Note 3 is to use the wall charger.
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What if you used a USB 2.0 cable with the 2Ah AC adapter? Would it still charge in "USB 3.0" mode and not give you a message to use a USB 3.0 cable?
I have my old 1Ah car charger and when I use a USB 2.0 cable, the phone says to use the USB 3.0 cable for faster charging.
But, looking at this pinout:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:USB_3.0_Micro_B_plug.PNG
It seems like only the USB 2.0 section is providing the power?
It's utterly confusing. Would be nice if someone who really knows this stuff explain how it works?
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ShadowLea said:
No, there is not. The Note 3 has a USB 3.0 port, but it is only faster for data transfer. Charging is done at 2.0 speed, not 3.0. Regardless of what you attach it to, it charges just as fast as a 2.0 device.
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What's strange is that I have a car charger that is 1.0Ah. When I use a USB 2.0 cable, the phone tells me to use a USB 3.0 cable for faster charging.
When I use a USB 3.0 cable, the message does not appear.
But I'm thinking that the car charger can only put out 1.0Ah regardless of the cable that is used?

N910c Charging very slow on PC

- Tried on All my PC's USB Port ( both USB 2 and 3 ports )
- Tried using Original Samsung Galaxy Note 5 Cable
- Bought and tested Aukey and Anker USB cables from amazon
- Bought new Original Samsung Note 4 Battery
- Charges around 2-4% an hour @ PC , so download an app "Ampere" , it states that i'm only getting around 80-120ma
- All cables works perfectly fine on the power outlet.. both standard and fast charge method
- Data Transfer is also fast
So my PC is probably the culprit ? but all other USB Devices works fine ATM

andr3wchong said:
- Tried on All my PC's USB Port ( both USB 2 and 3 ports )
- Tried using Original Samsung Galaxy Note 5 Cable
- Bought and tested Aukey and Anker USB cables from amazon
- Bought new Original Samsung Note 4 Battery
- Charges around 2-4% an hour @ PC , so download an app "Ampere" , it states that i'm only getting around 80-120ma
- All cables works perfectly fine on the power outlet.. both standard and fast charge method
- Data Transfer is also fast
So my PC is probably the culprit ? but all other USB Devices works fine ATM
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Charging from a pc is always slow, it's not a fastcharger You can look at my sig i still own all the devices and they all charge slow on a pc and i have 4 laptops all the same its normal....lol

KennyLG123 said:
Charging from a pc is always slow, it's not a fastcharger You can look at my sig i still own all the devices and they all charge slow on a pc and i have 4 laptops all the same its normal....lol
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i mean i know it's slow.... but this time it's super sloow , i think i used to get around 400mah , now it's somewhere around 80-120

andr3wchong said:
i mean i know it's slow.... but this time it's super sloow , i think i used to get around 400mah , now it's somewhere around 80-120
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It's weird i know but you trying the usb cords. like you said pc, any major dust build up in the ports i have seen issues like this but just cant remember what the fix was.

You aren't going to get the fastest charging speeds when charging your mobile device via a computer's USB port.

DarkGuyver said:
You aren't going to get the fastest charging speeds when charging your mobile device via a computer's USB port.
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It is possible I have Asus mobo with option 'fast charging' ...it work on back side ports...

Jovan1997 said:
It is possible I have Asus mobo with option 'fast charging' ...it work on back side ports...
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Really? I didn't think you could. I know for a fact that fast chargers have the ability to charge a device using a higher voltage and amperage than a regular charger. I didn't think that fast charging via the USB port of a computer is possible.

DarkGuyver said:
Really? I didn't think you could. I know for a fact that fast chargers have the ability to charge a device using a higher voltage and amperage than a regular charger. I didn't think that fast charging via the USB port of a computer is possible.
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Okay, go to asus site and see -mobo model sabertooth 990fx r2.0( it actually for iphone,ipod, but work fine with my gsn4)
When said 'fast charging' i mean it faster than normal USB charging(but ofc not same like regual Fast Charging 2.0)
I cant remember,but it show me 800-1000ma
*bad eng sorry