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Netflix or Hulu on Nexus S???

It was possible on froyo (at first at least) but I've been with an iPhone and just got my NS. Is there still a way? Sorry if its been covered it but I've looked and couldn't find a difinitive answer. Is there a work around of some sort?
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jthornton71707 said:
It was possible on froyo (at first at least) but I've been with an iPhone and just got my NS. Is there still a way? Sorry if its been covered it but I've looked and couldn't find a difinitive answer. Is there a work around of some sort?
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The same work around for the N1 should still apply to the NS

slowz3r said:
The same work around for the N1 should still apply to the NS
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To elaborate, Hulu blocks all Android phones and GoogleTVs due to a disagreement about licensing, I believe. There is a workaround in the Nexus One forums in order to bypass this lock, but because Hulu isn't optimized for viewing on a Flash-enabled mobile device it's quality can leave something to be desired. At least for me, anyway.
As far as streaming content from Netflix goes, there isn't an app for that just yet as far as I'm aware, which is strange considering WP7 phones launched with one for them. There are apps to manage your queue, but that's pretty much it.

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To elaborate, Hulu blocks all Android phones and GoogleTVs due to a disagreement about licensing, I believe. There is a workaround in the Nexus One forums in order to bypass this lock, but because Hulu isn't optimized for viewing on a Flash-enabled mobile device it's quality can leave something to be desired. At least for me, anyway.
As far as streaming content from Netflix goes, there isn't an app for that just yet as far as I'm aware, which is strange considering WP7 phones launched with one for them. There are apps to manage your queue, but that's pretty much it.
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I never found a need to use Hulu/Netflix on my N1 but wasnt the work around just a modified flash.apk file.
Maybe something has changed but thats what I remember, changing the browser user agent used to work, but i doubt thats the case now

slowz3r said:
I never found a need to use Hulu/Netflix on my N1 but wasnt the work around just a modified flash.apk file.
Maybe something has changed but thats what I remember, changing the browser user agent used to work, but i doubt thats the case now
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I think it was a combination of the modified Flash.apk and the browser UA... but like you, I never really used it. I tried Hulu once, was getting terrible FPS(was like watching a slideshow), and never went back. Now that we have a much nicer GPU on the Nexus S, it might be a little more bearable buuut... meh.

unremarked said:
I think it was a combination of the modified Flash.apk and the browser UA... but like you, I never really used it. I tried Hulu once, was getting terrible FPS(was like watching a slideshow), and never went back. Now that we have a much nicer GPU on the Nexus S, it might be a little more bearable buuut... meh.
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Ya,
Honestly OP you would have better luck at this point use the WiFi hotspot to watch netflix on your iPod or what have you

As far as netflix on android, there was post on engadget a while ago, problem is drm on android or something to that effect.
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slowz3r said:
Ya,
Honestly OP you would have better luck at this point use the WiFi hotspot to watch netflix on your iPod or what have you
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Don't say that... I still have the "iPod" (iPhone) in my drawer... lol. The point is to have one device... Its pointless to have 2 or 3 sperate devices on your person. I already have a 4g clearspot that works great... had to get it with my NS (on at&t) well hopefully they'll release something soon with Netflix integration. Android has been around for a while now I can't believe there's nothing for this
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nohcho said:
As far as netflix on android, there was post on engadget a while ago, problem is drm on android or something to that effect.
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Here seems to be the answer regarding Netflix on Android: http://blog.netflix.com/2010/11/netflix-on-android.html
Interesting read, but it's the usual Hollywood concern about possible pirating.

You have to get the modified flash .apk and the change the UA string to desktopto run it. You can find the file in the N1 forums. I had it working on 2.3 for a while but after I updated to 2.3.1 it wouldn't install correctly. Honestly, the video quality isn't that good. The only way to get a decent amount of fps is to use the igoogle app from the desktop version of the page. And sites like megashare work just fine with no hack and have much higher fps.
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slowz3r said:
Ya,
Honestly OP you would have better luck at this point use the WiFi hotspot to watch netflix on your iPod or what have you
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We tried that with my GF's iPod touch and honestly, it sucked! It was really slow and it kept buffering a lot.

Here's the deal dude

I'm going to go get the evo this weekend because Verizon is or has been to exspensive. I've been doing the proper research for root and I think I got that down for the most part. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the amount of roms you guys have compared to the dx. I'm addicted to flashing roms which is very frustrating when it comes to the dx as there is such lack of roms for it, oh well who fukin cares cry your self a river build a bridge and get over it..so here's my question . Can I flash different roms over top of each other??? Like for instance from cm7 to whatever rom. I know you have to wipe data and stuff already. Is there anything important I need to know??? Thanks
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Unless you want dialuo 3G speeds and worthless 4G, don't touch sprint with a 19 foot pole.
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Hrshycro said:
Unless you want dialuo 3G speeds and worthless 4G, don't touch sprint with a 19 foot pole.
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Strange, he didn't say anything asking for opinions of Sprint.

stevo760 said:
I'm going to go get the evo this weekend because Verizon is or has been to exspensive. I've been doing the proper research for root and I think I got that down for the most part. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the amount of roms you guys have compared to the dx. I'm addicted to flashing roms which is very frustrating when it comes to the dx as there is such lack of roms for it, oh well who fukin cares cry your self a river build a bridge and get over it..so here's my question . Can I flash different roms over top of each other??? Like for instance from cm7 to whatever rom. I know you have to wipe data and stuff already. Is there anything important I need to know??? Thanks
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What do you mean by "on top"??

Hrshycro said:
worthless 4G
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lol... my 4G is 6x faster than my friends incredible ...

Switching from one rom to another rom. Not combining roms.
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Hrshycro said:
Unless you want dialuo 3G speeds and worthless 4G, don't touch sprint with a 19 foot pole.
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What he said.
i would recommend you browse the Evo general forum and you will know what we mean.sprint's data speeds have been horrible for the past 3 months or so,and this seems to be a nationwide problem and not an isolated issue.

stevo760 said:
I'm going to go get the evo this weekend because Verizon is or has been to exspensive. I've been doing the proper research for root and I think I got that down for the most part. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the amount of roms you guys have compared to the dx. I'm addicted to flashing roms which is very frustrating when it comes to the dx as there is such lack of roms for it, oh well who fukin cares cry your self a river build a bridge and get over it..so here's my question . Can I flash different roms over top of each other??? Like for instance from cm7 to whatever rom. I know you have to wipe data and stuff already. Is there anything important I need to know??? Thanks
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As you can see, we have our share of trolls here on the EVO side of XDA but you should be used to that by now coming from DX. These low-lifes are rampant on these forums, just ignore them and you will be ok...
Regarding your question. Technically, if you are flashing a newer version of a rom like say going to CM7 2.2 coming from 2.1, technically you do not have to wipe everything, just dalvic cache but if you are flashing a completely new rom then it's best to completely wipe everything. There is a zip called "format all" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785271
somewhere in the OP in this link, and you can just flash that zip before you go to a new rom and it automatically wipes absolutely everything for you, so you won't have to worry.
I highly recommend you use the format all zip before every rom update or change, just to be safe. And make sure you create a nand backup before hand.
Welcome to the dark side! I'm sure you will love your evo!
P.S if you're looking for roms to try out, particularly AOSP, I highly recommend MIUI. For a sense rom, go with any of Calkulins.
Let me know if you need anything else.

Come on dude is sprint really that bad??? I'm on wifi most of the time anyways. If its really that slow ill just take it back and if the wont take it back then ill show them how slow my car can drive through there window accidently and my peice of **** car drives pretty slow. It might not get me a new phone but atleast I can say I tried
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So what's the deal pickle?

NYCguy2020 said:
What he said.
i would recommend you browse the Evo general forum and you will know what we mean.sprint's data speeds have been horrible for the past 3 months or so,and this seems to be a nationwide problem and not an isolated issue.
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That has been acknowledged and is being worked on and will no doubt certainly be fixed soon.
Also, refunds are issued for those with the issue.

stevo760 said:
Come on dude is sprint really that bad??? I'm on wifi most of the time anyways. If its really that slow ill just take it back and if the wont take it back then ill show them how slow my car can drive through there window accidently and my peice of **** car drives pretty slow. It might not get me a new phone but atleast I can say I tried
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There have been SOME data issues, I'm one of them that OS having it, but its only a temporary issue they are working on.

stevo760 said:
Come on dude is sprint really that bad??? I'm on wifi most of the time anyways. If its really that slow ill just take it back and if the wont take it back then ill show them how slow my car can drive through there window accidently and my peice of **** car drives pretty slow. It might not get me a new phone but atleast I can say I tried
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I'm telling you man, do not get into any kind of conversations with some of these folks. Their goals in life are to literally be useless. Ignore them and just do what you gotta do. Don't let anyone alter your decision.

Disregard what the morons are saying about Sprint. Sprint is by far the best value in wireless services. The amount of money you'll be saving will more than make up for any tiny nuisances you'll find with Sprint. Besides, you have 30 days to try out to see if you like it. If you feel it's not worth it to you, just leave and go back... no questions asked.

The EVO is kinda old news now. I would wait for the next big dual core android with AMOLED action. And the number of roms for EVO actually is not all that impressive. Most of them are regurgitations of others. There are a couple of good sense options (although I think rooted stock sense is best) and then there is cyanogen.... which is the best there is IMO... And now it has the extra G.... not that the 4G has been very useful to me.

I average 1.5 to 1.6 Mbps down and 600 to 800 Kbps up.
That ain't bad for 3G.

mattykinsx said:
Strange, he didn't say anything asking for opinions of Sprint.
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God forbid, right?
- My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

I'm in San Diego particularly escondido. are my going to get 4g or not ??? I looked and couldn't figure it out.
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matt2053 said:
I average 1.5 to 1.6 Mbps down and 600 to 800 Kbps up.
That ain't bad for 3G.
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Yep me too. Occasionally it will be really slow but that only lasts for minutes.
@OP- Answer to your original question- Yes, you can flash ROM after ROM but you need to wipe in between flashing. One of our awesome devs Calkulin made a script that formats everything completely that is an awesome tool to use before flashing. Makes for a good clean install. You can find it in his mods thread in the theme section.

HondaCop said:
God forbid, right?
- My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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Yes, god forbid people take the thread off topic.
He didn't ask for opinions.
He asked about ROM flashing.
God forbid people keep on topic.

Samsung needs your help to vote the Galaxy S 4g "The best emerging technology" inCITA

Samsung needs your help to vote the Galaxy S 4g "The best emerging technology" inCITA
Go show your support!
https://www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
(ha ha!)

no thank you, only thing i like about samsung are they're perty screens :]

I'd rather shoot myself in the foot. Thanks anyway

Never ever ever ever
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just in case you dont get it, I was being sarcastic, but I do hope you'll leave a negative comment on their facebook wall.
What is hilarious is that if you look at any of their posts, all you see is people *****ing them out!

I wish I had a Facebook account, so I could vote for someone else. I like my phone and all, but the last thing I want to do is give Samsung props for it.

I tried to get to the page but my GPS isn't working and I got lost.

drizek said:
I tried to get to the page but my GPS isn't working and I got lost.
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Rofl!
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Am I reading this correctly? Galaxy S4g or Galaxy S2 4g? No. I will not. This technology emerged 6 months ago and it was called the epic 4g.

Magic Oreo said:
no thank you, only thing i like about samsung are they're perty screens :]
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And only their BEST GPUs in single core processor phones.

Overstew said:
And only their BEST GPUs in single core processor phones.
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Ya, but playing games on a phone is not really all that fun, and there aren't many good android games anyway. Whenever I want to play games I will always go to my iPad instead.

I tried to load that link but my phone BUZZED once, then twice and crashed. Now my native Youtube app won't play any content and TW launcher hesitates to perform it's function.
*sigh* I'll try one more time...
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when they learn to update.. ill learn to vote..

drizek said:
I tried to get to the page but my GPS isn't working and I got lost.
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Ha I had a similar problem. I tried doin it from my Moment but when I click on the link I get data lock
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rgregg504 said:
Ha I had a similar problem. I tried doin it from my Moment but when I click on the link I get data lock
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Ow!! My ribs hurt I am laughing so hard...

there is no way I would ever support Samsung if they cant even get 2.2 working properly after 6 effing months of promising it - and no 2.3!
this are incompetent at best and are total amateurs - look at what these developers have done here for free! - Samsung sucks the only good thing about this phone is the screen and the slide out keyboard, but even that sucks some times as it doesent register every key press even though I here the click - so I guess its only the screen thats good

LOL, samsung asking for help from the same ppl they screwed around for months on this froyo update

2k4mach said:
LOL, samsung asking for help from the same ppl they screwed around for months on this froyo update
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I had to really laugh out loud when I read it.

i dunno about that being emerging tech
now that kyocera echo...........now thats some emerging technology LMFAO

I'll vote when I see gingerbread oficially on my Epic or when they put a card slot on the Galaxy S.
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Netflix

Wondering if anyone has gotten the leaked Netflix app to connect to the servers to stream yet?
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Search works wonders!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994863

whewstoosae said:
Search works wonders!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=994863
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Yea unless u don't read the op and notice that he wants a working version which u supplied the version that he is probably talking about that doesnt work.
No version works yet btw
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superchilpil said:
Yea unless u don't read the op and notice that he wants a working version which u supplied the version that he is probably talking about that doesnt work.
No version works yet btw
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Tell me how this thread is necessary when you can post in the thread I referenced? Better to have info in one thread then start another, good try though.
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jprakes said:
Wondering if anyone has gotten the leaked Netflix app to connect to the servers to stream yet?
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The Netflix service itself has not yet been activated for mobile devices due to a DRM issue and that is why the leaked apk can only assess the system. I know that the link as already been provided to my previous thread, but feel free to post any questions there and I'll try to update everyone.
Hope that helps.

redsunrising said:
The Netflix service itself has not yet been activated for mobile devices due to a DRM issue and that is why the leaked apk can only assess the system. I know that the link as already been provided to my previous thread, but feel free to post any questions there and I'll try to update everyone.
Hope that helps.
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Heh, so basically Apple has Netflix by the nuts on this as it works on their devices which happen to be mobile devices.

badogg said:
Heh, so basically Apple has Netflix by the nuts on this as it works on their devices which happen to be mobile devices.
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that's my thought too, I think they have VZW by them now too since they're releasing the thunderbolt at $250....just gotta price it a little higher than the iphone hmmmmmmmmm. yeah this netflix drm thing sounds like a bunch of smoke.

gruss01 said:
that's my thought too, I think they have VZW by them now too since they're releasing the thunderbolt at $250....just gotta price it a little higher than the iphone hmmmmmmmmm. yeah this netflix drm thing sounds like a bunch of smoke.
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This kind of stuff pisses me off. It is one of the main reasons that I will not get an iPhone. I have a 2nd gen ipod touch, but my wife got that as a gift and I haven't picked it up since I got my Dinc. Especially now that I'm running Protekk's CM7 Rom
I just hate when big companies corner consumers to force people to buy their products and not someone else's. Too much of that going on these days, especially in the mobile and PC markets.

badogg said:
This kind of stuff pisses me off. It is one of the main reasons that I will not get an iPhone. I have a 2nd gen ipod touch, but my wife got that as a gift and I haven't picked it up since I got my Dinc. Especially now that I'm running Protekk's CM7 Rom
I just hate when big companies corner consumers to force people to buy their products and not someone else's. Too much of that going on these days, especially in the mobile and PC markets.
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I totally agree with this!

gruss01 said:
that's my thought too, I think they have VZW by them now too since they're releasing the thunderbolt at $250....just gotta price it a little higher than the iphone hmmmmmmmmm. yeah this netflix drm thing sounds like a bunch of smoke.
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Actually the issue at hand has more to do with the production companies who would love any reason to back out of their contracts with Netflix and sue them. Essentially they won't let Netflix release anything if it even has a chance of being pirated and given Android's open source nature they need hardware DRM since they can't bake in the software DRM as in iOS and WP7.
Hope that provided some clarity.

i would think there would be someway hide the fact that you are accessing it with an android phone, make it think you are on a laptop or something using silverlight. i really have no idea how this works, or what it is that tells them you are on a android device, but with all the different types of emulators seems like someone could emulate that.

I would love to blame Apple as it is so much fun, but unfortunately this is a DRM (digital rights management) issue. There is a feeling that Android devices are too open source. (laughable since the pc is the #1 route for violating that with access to torrents and p2p). The windows based phones also have netflix. Netflix itself would love to get their app on Android phones as it can only increase business, but they must get past the issue of DRM. I'm waiting patiently as well.

How ironic is it that there was an ad for Netflix in my view of this thread
Anyways, we will get Netflix. I think the demand is too high for them to ignore.

I hope HTC is just playing a trick on us....

I dont know wtf is going on with this GB update. It seems like it has done more bad to most people than good. Now that the update broke n wifi, the HTC EVO spec page says our phones only support b/g..... wtf HTC!

jimisdad said:
I dont know wtf is going on with this GB update. It seems like it has done more bad to most people than good. Now that the update broke n wifi, the HTC EVO spec page says our phones only support b/g..... wtf HTC!
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Oh noes our n wifis are broken. Now we will not have the bigger gee bees. The world is coming to an end......
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Rem3Dy said:
Oh noes our n wifis are broken. Now we will not have the bigger gee bees. The world is coming to an end......
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Sounds like enjoy bending over and grabbing your ankles.
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The HTC support page always said b/g the n was a hack and always was!

cruise350 said:
The HTC support page always said b/g the n was a hack and always was!
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With Eclair maybe? 802.11n was enabled in Froyo. Up until the update, my wi-fi access point was was configured for n only and my stock unrooted Evo connected at 65 Mbps. It can still see the AP when it is set to n only but not connect. I had to enable mixed b/g/n and now it will connect on g only at 54 Mbps. My signal is weaker and browsing is slower.
Maybe without the Evo having two antennas it didn't meet official n specifications but it was still faster before the update. I'm on wi-fi 98% of the time and there is no 4G in my area and if it uses a little more battery, I would have liked it to have been my decision to make.
Now, I'm not sure my GPS is funky, my Ulysses Gizmo's compass isn't compatible or what but I can't stand in one place and turn in a circle and see my compass dial make it all the way around. Google Sky couldn't get its act together for me last night either.

Here... http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=188&t=1202
go get your N's back!

Chuki82 said:
Here... http://www.themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=188&t=1202
go get your N's back!
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Will that hack work on a AOSP rom

Rem3Dy said:
Oh noes our n wifis are broken. Now we will not have the bigger gee bees. The world is coming to an end......
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Trolololol
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my wireless works fine, only on the 2.4GHZ band though

jimisdad said:
I dont know wtf is going on with this GB update. It seems like it has done more bad to most people than good. Now that the update broke n wifi, the HTC EVO spec page says our phones only support b/g..... wtf HTC!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707218

Hi, I am on a phone modding website with 10+ quality ROM choices most of which have been running gingerbread for a month (aosp for three months) and I'm going to a stock update why?
Really, I don't get that at all.

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Thanks. I did not search for it as i wasn't all that concerned. When I saw this post, thats when began thinking about it. Nice to know that I'm already got wireless n.

mattykinsx said:
Hi, I am on a phone modding website with 10+ quality ROM choices most of which have been running gingerbread for a month (aosp for three months) and I'm going to a stock update why?
Really, I don't get that at all.
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Because people can run whatever they want to run.
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DDiaz007 said:
Because people can run whatever they want to run.
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You're absolutely right, they are more than welcome to do that.
You can jump off a ledge if you want to.
But don't ***** if you leap and the fall kills ya.
A lot of people on here seem to want to do WHATEVER they want and then when they screw it up they expect XDA to fix it.
No.
That's not what this website is for.

mattykinsx said:
You're absolutely right, they are more than welcome to do that.
You can jump off a ledge if you want to.
But don't ***** if you leap and the fall kills ya.
A lot of people on here seem to want to do WHATEVER they want and then when they screw it up they expect XDA to fix it.
No.
That's not what this website is for.
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Is it your problem? No it isn't. If people asking for help for something they did that was stupid then let them be. Someone else will be the better person and help them. It is as simple as that. Nuff said.
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DDiaz007 said:
Is it your problem? No it isn't. If people asking for help for something they did that was stupid then let them be. Someone else will be the better person and help them. It is as simple as that. Nuff said.
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It's a forum problem so it's everyone's problem.
The "better person"...puh lease.
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime."
Can't spoon feed people forever.

mattykinsx said:
It's a forum problem so it's everyone's problem.
The "better person"...puh lease.
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime."
Can't spoon feed people forever.
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Troll somewhere else.

indagroove said:
Troll somewhere else.
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Shouldn't you be back-seat moderating somewhere?
That's hardly "trolling" no matter how you stretch the definition.

mattykinsx said:
That's hardly "trolling" no matter how you stretch the definition.
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Off topic inflamitory posting isn't trolling? Hmm..
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
You sir are a troll.