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Does Firmware affect HSDPA (TMo UK)?

Hi,
I'm finding I'm connecting only to UMTS, which is certainly nice, but I know I'm well within the HSDPA coverage zone so I'm wondering why it's not using that. I emailed T-Mo to check that HSDPA is enabled for my account (because I've read about people having some troubles with it) but they've verified that it is, so that's ruled out.
So now I'm wondering if it could have anything to do with the various new builds I've installed since I got it, or whether that could have no possible effect whatsoever. At the moment, settings is saying (And i don't really understand this so any explanation would also be very appreciated, even if you don't solve my problem at all):
Firmware version - 1.5
Baseband version - 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I
Kernel version - 2.6.27-00392-g8312baf [email protected] )
Build number - dream_devphone-userdebug 1.5 CRB21 147201 test-keys
Does it make any difference that I'm in the UK, or do the ADP build settings for picking up wireless internet (radio? is that the word I want? an explanation for that would be nice as well) work the same in the US as the UK?
Cheers,
Luke =)

Did you perform a speed test to determine your downstream speed? Anything greater than 384kb/s is HSDPA. All released Dream builds are configured for HSXPA. Check the build.prop.

Just ring T-Mo on 150 and speak to technical support, ask for HSDPA to be enabled because you want the better download speed. I'm currently on hold waiting for somebody to sort it out for me as I've never breached 384kb/s in an area where I should be able to get 4.5mb/s.
EDIT: Update time, managed to get HSDPA enabled but had to add web'n'walk plus to my contract, it took effect straight away and now I'm browsing at roughly 1.5mb/s though it does go quicker sometimes.
The phone status menu still states that it is connected via UMTS, so I think that the only reliable way to tell is by your speed.

All sounds interesting..
I wondering, is the reception for HSDPA vs UTMS any different/better?
Im constantly disappointed by my phones reception, 3G seems to be good outside, but crap indoors :-/
I guess I loose around 50% of all calls due to network issues. If HSDPA is a better signal then maybe it could help with this!
Although according to the signal bar icon, my phones is never truly without GPRS reception.. although im not sure I believe it! Sometimes I'm wondering if its sending data over the GPRS alot, and thats blocking the incoming calls (I know data over GPRS will block a call, but Im just not sure how much the G1 does this when its 'asleep').
Thanks for the heads up

I think HSDPA just piggybacks on the UMTS protocol to provide higher packet data rates, the actual phone call portion should remain the same. I've not had any improvement in call quality from the upgrade but then again calls were pretty awesome quality to begin with.
Also had the issue with both incoming and outgoing calls not getting through when in 3G mode on the phone, turned out that it was an issue with their masts and equipment but eventually they got it fixed, took like a month or so and not had anything too bad happen since.

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Okay, so i'm in Central London, I usually get about 9-12 asu signal strength, and yet I've still never got more than that 384kb/s internet on the many speed tests I've run. Just got off the phone to tmobile tech support and they've double checked everything as much as possible and HSDPA services are definitely enabled on my account, so they keep reassuring me that HSDPA is variable based on signal strength and we can't guarantee you'll connect, but I'm really not convinced because I've never actually got HSDPA speeds.
Any ideas on what I should do? I'm paying for HSDPA but I'm not convinced I'm getting it. Anywhere I can go with such an insanely high signal strength that I can definitively prove somethings wrong if I still don't surpass 384kb/s?
The person at the desk said to try and find somebody with a G1 who is connecting to HSDPA, stand by them and see if I connect myself; I'm wondering if I could go to a west end t-mobile shop and boot up their model G1 and run a speed test on that, then compare it to mine.
Any of you guys in the UK actually getting more than 384kb/s, and if so any advice?
Thanks again, Luke.

insperatum said:
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Any of you guys in the UK actually getting more than 384kb/s, and if so any advice?
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I'm in Burgess Hill in West Sussex, running JF ADP 1.5 rom with the associated radio update and according to Xtremelabs Speedtest app I just got 671.6Kbit/s down and 143Kbit/s up, my mobile network type is shown as UTMS and my Baseband, Kernel and Build versions match yours exactly.
Does that help at all?

atconc said:
I'm in Burgess Hill in West Sussex, running JF ADP 1.5 rom with the associated radio update and according to Xtremelabs Speedtest app I just got 671.6Kbit/s down and 143Kbit/s up, my mobile network type is shown as UTMS and my Baseband, Kernel and Build versions match yours exactly.
Does that help at all?
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Haha, well it certainly was very helpful. Narrows a lot of stuff out =D
As for useful, I'm not too sure All that's changed is I know there's somebody out there in seemingly exactly the same situation as me but without a problem
Oh also, what's your signal strength? I tend to max out at 11 or 12 asu.

insperatum said:
so they keep reassuring me that HSDPA is variable based on signal strength and we can't guarantee you'll connect, but I'm really not convinced because I've never actually got HSDPA speeds.
Any ideas on what I should do? I'm paying for HSDPA but I'm not convinced I'm getting it. Anywhere I can go with such an insanely high signal strength that I can definitively prove somethings wrong if I still don't surpass 384kb/s?
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The problem isnt so much signal strength as bandwidth saturation. Unlike Time-Division based access schemes, WCDMA allows theoretically for an infinite number (limited only by how much bandwidth loss is considered acceptable by the carrier) of users to connect to a cell node over the same swath of frequency. By encoding each user's data stream with a unique code, the cell node can pick out a user's signal by looking for the expected coding (all the other user's streams appear as overlapping noise basically). Of course the more users on that same band of frequency, the more perceived "noise" there will be, which will result in reduced bandwidth for each individual user (you).
If you run a speed test at night, it should have a much better outcome.

jashsu said:
If you run a speed test at night, it should have a much better outcome.
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Midnight, 113Kb/s, and I'm off to bed. I'll see how it's doing in the morning. Night ^.^

insperatum said:
Midnight, 113Kb/s, and I'm off to bed. I'll see how it's doing in the morning. Night ^.^
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Yikes. How many bars signal do you have for 3G?

Morning -yawn-
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Yikes. How many bars signal do you have for 3G?
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Generally 3 bars, and settings saying something between 9 and 12 asu. I think I was on 11asu when I ran the test last night I think I was on 11asu. This morning for some reason I'm down to 2 bars, 6 asu and up to 190kb/s. *sigh*
Oh, and by the way, t-mobile list my postcode as being within the 4 bar (out of 5 this time) 'very good coverage' area for 3G.
Recommendations?
Update: Blimey. Just went up to 12 asu and scored 350kb/s. Soooo close!

Oh my god! UPDATE!
So a couple of days ago I bought a packet of those crappy chinese £2 signal booster stickers which you just stick to your phone and supposedly you get insanely better reception, not expecting it to work at all but hey, what's £2 for a chance at amazing signal.
And it worked! Turned off phone, stuck it inside behind the battery, rebooted and BAM: first speed test I ran I got 550kb/s. Next one I got over 700!
So I'm really surprised. Anybody having similar trouble getting an HSDPA signal should definitely try getting a a pack of these on ebay to see if it helps.
=D
Update: Turns out all of the above is total bull****. Please disregard.

I have 4 full bars - My signal strength shows -77dBm 18 asu
Today I'm hitting up to 1288.0 Kbit/s too I guess that Burgess Hill is probably not too heavily saturated in terms of 3G use and it probably helps that I can see the 3g masts on the building across the street from the office window.

insperatum said:
And it worked! Turned off phone, stuck it inside behind the battery, rebooted and BAM: first speed test I ran I got 550kb/s. Next one I got over 700!\
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Those stickers are pretty widely regarded as junk science. The reboot probably did the trick.

jashsu said:
Those stickers are pretty widely regarded as junk science. The reboot probably did the trick.
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Ah okay, I'll try again with a control and see how it does. Thanks.
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Yep, you're entirely right. It was the reboot that helped (also coincidence played a nice part; it just happened that I got really high the first time I tried with the stickers in). I tried a few times without them, and didn't score too well the first two times, but got over 800 the third =)
So this leads me to my last question in my journey then. Why is it that my internet is really fast when I first boot up, and then sinks down again. No matter how many speed tests I did, nor when I did them I could never get more than about 350kb/s until I rebooted. Why should rebooting help - Programs I've installed using up resources? Overheating?
And thanks again Jashsu, you saved me from continuing to be a massive idiot.

3G data speeds dramatically declined

When I first got the Evo, I was getting about 900kb/sec-1.1mb/sec in my house, and ever since I've flashed these custom ROM's and new radio... The best I can get is about 300-500kb/sec... I've also noticed that my signal seems to fluctuate every couple seconds, from no signal to a full signal, which never used to happen either. I know I'm not going crazy, I just wondered if anyone else has experienced this... It's really discouraging

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i also noticee this too and ur are ABSOLUTELY right i was clockin like 1.1mb-1.5 before and im rooted using the fresh room and im at 600kb

gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.

I notice slower speeds as well from my first day or so 4th and 5th. I might feel the same way you do if I didnt have my girlfriend and best friend who both got evo around the same time and are being completely stock. They both have similar speeds to me. I actually went into a Sprint store to complain and sure snuff my speeds jumped up to 700kbps downstream for the first time in almost a week right before I went in.
I am NOT happy with my 3g speeds and am borderline on canceling my contract. If it wasn't for this awesome phone and this awesome dev community I would tell Sprint to kiss my whole @$$h0le. Premium data my ass.
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I noticed better speeds after the ROM and Radio update. Speeds are highly variable and depend on a lot of factors. I doubt you damaged it by flashing, flash memory is designed to be flashed.

infamousjax said:
gonna return mine, get a new one, and stick to stock... i think it broke my radio internally.
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Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.

I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?

How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?

infamousjax said:
How fast is your 3G when you run speedtest.net?
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I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013

infamousjax said:
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Even if it is possible, your new phone will come pre-broken most likely. That radio is the official Sprint radio and if the phone has the OTA update you will have it.

infamousjax said:
I've flashed the original RUU and it didn't fix it... why would my speed halve with no changed variables? It just doesn't make sense.
It's not possible that I damaged my radio by flashing the upgraded radio? And now that's why it's acting erratic and my speeds are so bad?
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Just because you do not know what the variables are, does not mean there are no variables.
Possible variables you are not considering.
There are 20 other people around you with new EVOs testing their speeds, tethering, and downloading like its going out of style.
Time of the day. There are peak usage times. Maybe your first test was on a low usage time.
The site you use to test your speed has become more congested recently.
There is more CDMA users around you recently. With CDMA towers, the more users per tower, the lower its radius/signal will get.
Maybe you had WiFi on the first time?
I am sure I could make up 15 more variables if I wanted to.
To ease your concerns, think of ROMs as software, and your phone as the hardware. It is very unlikely that you did damage to the hardware. Especially considering most of these ROMs are exactly like Stock minus a few Sprint apps.

danknee said:
I just got 490 down 380 up, but my results vary wildly... again depending on network conditions and where you are connected and how many users are also connected, etc. Get a few people on the same tower that are into bittorrent and your results can be drastically different.
Some past results in my history:
780/540
949/1013
388/770
357/721
662/139
561/577
680/1013
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Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.

I'm not an idiot alright... I didn't have Wifi on... I know somethings screwed up with my phone, it's not in my head.
There are possibly some variables as to why my speed isn't the same as it was a week ago, but there really is no explanation that for my erratic signal.
Oh well, hopefully I can figure it out.

obviously this has nothing to do with wifi, but doesnt the EVO have 4G and cdma radio's????

danknee said:
Just run the RUU, it will restore the original radio and everything else you think you lost. Link is here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685835
I have a feeling this has more to do with your local network congestion, but feel free to prove otherwise.
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I am close to returning my EVO. I thought that maybe one of my flashes has done something to my 3g speeds, but I ran that RUU and no luck . I am going to be going to Sprint store on Wednesday to compare.
I am in Aurora CO, I am coming from Nexus one on T-Mobile. I LOVE Evo, but hate the way sprint is. I use my phone at the gym to listen to Pandora/Slacker, can't even do it on Evo since I get such crappy 3g speeds.. Downtown Denver phone works fine, but not here... Anyways, on T-Mobile I got about 1.6mb down, and 300up most of the time.
Today, I went down to T-Mobile store and ran SpeedTest on MT3G and Evo. At the store, MT3G got 3mbps down!!!, Evo howered around 600kbps. Anyways, point is, I really am not too happy with Sprint in my area. I am sure that in other places it is fine, but it doesn't seem to be the case here. I have tried everything, even downgraded my radio, no change in results.

clubtech said:
Sorry to break it to you but these are typical sprint speeds. Sprint is one of the slowest cell carriers I have ever used.
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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon

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While I believe that maybe your experience, it does not match with results I found.
Sprint 3rd of 4.
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/26/engadget-labs-the-best-mobile-broadband-carrier-in-america/
Sprint 1st of 3
http://gizmodo.com/5111990/boston-3g-data-test-att-sprint-and-verizon
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Once again, really depends on where you are. I have posted of my results here in Colorado, so yea...

have you tried changing the PRL's to use Verizons towers?
from my experience the only negative thing it does is break sprint TV

i felt the same way, just noticed tonight. but now that i've run a bunch more speed tests, it all averages out. no doubt all these evo's are taxing sprints network to the extreme. :/ hopefully that $10 surcharge will quickly pay for upgrades.

RESOLVED! 3G Problems in Denver with Flipz & Damage Roms

UPDATE - - see my post on page 3, the issue is confirmed as a Sprint network problem. I'm in KC, no problems. Denver 2 hours ago, couldn't load this page without timeout. Call Sprint and demand it be fixed!
Update 2 -- I just got off the phone with Sprint this morning (6/18) and they confirmed the issue. They have lots of reports of problems in Denver and Colorado in general. They say the issue started on 6/13 and affects 3G, 4G, third party messaging, and data roaming. They're not accepting any more trouble tickets, however, she did note my account that I reported the issue was occurring since that time for me, and she said once the issue is resolved, I should call back to ask for credits to my account for the loss of data use. I would urge ALL of you to call Sprint today and report the same so you can get your account noted and get some money back when they fix this crap.
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Hi there,
I'm having a VERY flaky 3g connection after rooting and moving to flipz and damage roms. I don't think it's either rom, instead I think it has something to do with either the radio flash, or with Denver's 3g connection in general. Anyone else having similar issues? I've seen at least one person using each of flipz and damage seeing that.
Any ideas at what might cause the 3g connection to get hosed? It will cut out during file downloads, etc...it seems like it can't hold itself for more than 2 minutes. It will still say there is a connection, but you can go to google.com in the browser, and it will timeout.
I've updated PRL and Profile several times with no luck, I've tried the old radio and new, both affected. PRL 60665 is what I have now.

Same here
I have a stock EVO that is having the exact same problem. Seems to time itself out after a min or so. My wife has the same phone and no problem.

ClkWrk said:
I have a stock EVO that is having the exact same problem. Seems to time itself out after a min or so. My wife has the same phone and no problem.
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Can you check and see in the software information if you have the same baseband and prl version? You might be able to help us figure this out. Thanks!

Same here
Just checked them and they are exactly the same, although she is now having the same issue. To be more specific, the 3g icon shows upload and download for a length of time (20 sec to 2 min) and then sometimes shows only the upload arrow. The upload icon flashes a few times and then 3g drops completely. Usually upon returning to the home screen it seems to reset itself, only to repeat once internet is accessed or application is installing.

ClkWrk said:
Just checked them and they are exactly the same, although she is now having the same issue. To be more specific, the 3g icon shows upload and download for a length of time (20 sec to 2 min) and then sometimes shows only the upload arrow. The upload icon flashes a few times and then 3g drops completely. Usually upon returning to the home screen it seems to reset itself, only to repeat once internet is accessed or application is installing.
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This is the exact same behavior I'm experiencing. I've tried both radios, multiple ROMs, etc. The only conclusion I can draw is that it must have something to do with the PRL version, or the infrastructure itself here in Denver.

Same here
I have tried everything I can think of (short of giving up and calling support) and still no dice. The thing I can't figure out is what could have changed in the last 3-4 days in my neck of the woods to suddenly have such intermittent coverage. I have had Sprint for 10 months with absolutely no issues, now I can't even check out full websites. Makes the Evo a lot less fun for sure.

I dont think its just Denver. Im thinking sprint is throttling perhaps. Its affecting 4 people in the DC Maryland VA area that i know that have EVOs
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=703035

kmartburrito said:
Hi there,
I'm having a VERY flaky 3g connection after rooting and moving to flipz and damage roms. I don't think it's either rom, instead I think it has something to do with either the radio flash, or with Denver's 3g connection in general. Anyone else having similar issues? I've seen at least one person using each of flipz and damage seeing that.
Any ideas at what might cause the 3g connection to get hosed? It will cut out during file downloads, etc...it seems like it can't hold itself for more than 2 minutes. It will still say there is a connection, but you can go to google.com in the browser, and it will timeout.
I've updated PRL and Profile several times with no luck, I've tried the old radio and new, both affected. PRL 60665 is what I have now.
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I had the same problem in Denver until I flashed the OMJ rom. now works. Try it. Also 4G working better. No idea if the issue is radio or PRL or something. I will post my info screen when I get a chance.

Here is my SW info:

colorado_al said:
I had the same problem in Denver until I flashed the OMJ rom. now works. Try it. Also 4G working better. No idea if the issue is radio or PRL or something. I will post my info screen when I get a chance.
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Umm 4G? I thought Denver wasn't supposed to get 4G until July. I heard that Coors Field has a low power 4G broadcast from it. If you are receiving 4G, what part of Denver do you live in?

ChrisDos said:
Umm 4G? I thought Denver wasn't supposed to get 4G until July. I heard that Coors Field has a low power 4G broadcast from it. If you are receiving 4G, what part of Denver do you live in?
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I've seen 4g by I25 and I70, but haven't found it anywhere else yet. It's definitely not down by centennial or parker, where I work and live.
Awesome find on the OMJ Rom al! I'm going to try it, and then touch base with flipz and toast to see if they have any thoughts as to what it might be.

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Umm 4G? I thought Denver wasn't supposed to get 4G until July. I heard that Coors Field has a low power 4G broadcast from it. If you are receiving 4G, what part of Denver do you live in?
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I work downtown. Definitely the best signal I get is near Coors Field, but I have seen 4G as far south as Broadway & I-25 and as far north as I-70 & I-25.
Speeds are variable. Looks like they are getting all the hardware in place and testing. Hope it means that full 4G will be online soon!

No dice for the OMJ rom for me. I flashed it, and had the issue reproduced within two minutes of the rom being up. Hung in the market, and then timed out in the browser on sprint's powerdeck website.
I noticed that the upload arrow was solid throughout the entire time of the behavior occurring.
Well, shoot.

Just a thought, I notice on my sprint home page that I've used 3.5GB of data this month.
Could this be throttling maybe? I know someone else mentioned it earlier, but just noticed this usage amount on my own page. can others experiencing it check their usage as well?

meh
Well it appears that we have identical issues...where in Denver are you? i am near Sante Fe and Evans....

ClkWrk said:
Well it appears that we have identical issues...where in Denver are you? i am near Sante Fe and Evans....
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I'm at Lincoln and I25. However I'm now thinking this might be due to data usage. What is yours at this month per Sprint online? Maybe we can either confirm or squash that as a possibility.

631,500k data so far. I would think they would let us know if they were throttling, no?

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631,500k data so far. I would think they would let us know if they were throttling, no?
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Something's screwed. I saw 3. 5 gb used earlier on Sprint. Com and on the way to the airport, checked again, saw 500 mb on my wifes hero, 780 on mine. Calling Sprint tomorrow.

I will do the same.

I'm in the same part of town as kmartburrito and had this issue the other day with Flipz 0.2. I just restored my flash of Flipz' stock with the OTA update and new radio. I'm having no problems with that setup.
Haven't had time to flash anything else yet, but I'm planning to unlock NAND this weekend and check out Flipz and Damage's new stuff. After reading this thread, I think I might just leave well enough alone until things stabilize a bit.

No speed increase with 1.4 pri

I finally after 7 hours of work, got my PRI updated to 1.4 and got all my original stuff back and I am updated to the tilt with all current version of everything.
I just finished my speed tests and have found that this 1.4 PRI update has done nothing to increase my 3g speed.
Backstory:
My speed at work dropped from 1mb in June to 125kb (looks like it is capped) two weeks ago. I have done everything in my power to fix it. Nothing has worked and Sprint is not saying anything.
Hope this saves someone time and effort.

There was a tower at my house that was bad. Packet loss was in the thousands when I looked at it on my aircard. It took them over a year to fix it.
I had the same issue you did. went from good speeds to crap.

Did yours appear to be capped? My speed hits that 128kb mark and just stops, everytime.

I've had pretty much the same exact thing in my house... Went from 1mb+ on 3g to around 200-300 kbs. However, after the PRI update I am getting a slight raise in dl speed. around 500-600 now....
My signal strength is still weak and has not improved at all however, which is what I was really hoping for with the pri update....
Honestly...all of this bullsht with sprint makes me want to go back to tmobile. I left them because I was getting terrible signal strength...but i'm getting the same thing with sprint. /: at least tmobile has beast 3g speeds and the vibrant........
ahhh well. I still love my Evo.

Its a known fact that sprint is capping data.
PRI updates only affect a small percentage of users, used for when sprint brings new towers online. Chances are you have no new towers in your area.

Unfortunately, this is the wrong forum to post this, so you may get flamed.
Pri does not affect speed directly, it affects your data access times...pings. So with the new update and possibly lower pings, you will generally see faster response times in the web browser as compared to what you have had before.

Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4

I now have 4g after this update

aman1127 said:
I now have 4g after this update
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lol.... what?

I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.

Nothing changed for me, still around 1MB... I didn't really expect anything but why not... BTW Those that are complaining about horrible signal at home address, call sprint and have them give you airave for free. I did that on my first month of service and been much happier ever since.

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I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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I agree, but there is something to be said for sprint pushing/making the update available.
In any case, I've found that the sprint network can not be considered anywhere near consistent, 3g or 4g, pri 1.34 or 1.40.

jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I don't know if they do throttle or maybe its a case by case thing. Last month I used 13gbs of data since this is now my primary source of internet. I still get 2-3mbps
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Sawawa said:
I think that nearly everything people are reporting related to speed and latency with PRI can be explained by the placebo effect.
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+1 agreed.
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damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.

v_lestat said:
damn, i am lucky to get 100-300kb/sec
i dont think anyone ever expected to get better speeds, ie; 500kb/sec to 1mb/sec
better latency is many times better than a faster connection.
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Yup. You can download however fast you want but if you can't connect to the server itself in a timely manner then that fast down speed doesn't really matter.

jasecloud4 said:
Sprint doesn't cap, they throttle.
When I go over 6 gigs of data for the month, my speed tends to drastically drop off the face of the earth.
Last month alone, I used close to 8 gigs...not cool having to deal with 1X like speeds for the last week of the month.
~Jasecloud4
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I have to see what I used in July, probably 2g...however, my speed didn't pick up when August hit. Anyway, I just posted this because I saw the instruction thread on the PRI was closed. Well, I will just keep calling Sprint and telling them my work zip code sucks now.

I can confirm there is no 3G speed difference between PRI 1.40_003 & 1.34_003 as I have run speedtest.net on my wife's unrooted Evo and mine simultaneously. Our speeds are similar and also similarly vary between 200 - 1100 kbps while driving from downtown San Francisco heading north for 20 minutes or so.
I'm guessing poor 3G speeds are determined by specific tower and load - but definitely not by PRI version.
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No difference here and it broke the prl hack i use to get evdo service. I reverted back to eng build and all is good again. Minus the 7 hours of pri fix attempts.
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I have run out of ideas! 3G Limited?

Hello there new guy here, and XDA noob
For a while now, about 2 years i have been stuck on a maximum of 250 kbps. Previously i had a HTC Desire Rooted and with custom rom Redux. I could never get above 250 kbps on 3g.
Now i have a HTC One X, and yet im still getting the same speeds, which kinda rules out any hardware bottlenecks. I can run on both T-Mobile and Orange Uk (because they merged). My brother owns a HTC Sensation and runs on the exact same carrier as i do and uses the same mast and manages to gain over 500kbps.. HOW?!
I tried ringing orange and asking if there was any limitations and they said no, they even put me through to the best tech service they had :l. Any ideas guys? I would be very rgateful if you could give me any insight. thanks

need more info. this doesnt sound right at all. where do you live? ever checked your distance to nearest cell tower? do you know of anyone else getting better speeds on the same network?
do you have proper network selected in settings? correct APN?
perhaps network build.prop tweaks? sometimes they help other times they can hurt..
also *#*#INFO#*#* select phone information and radio band.
could also have a bad SIM card if it is old.

I live in the UK, Around Birmingham and Coventry. I'm usually always on full signal and iv'e even been as close as the "Danger Radiation" sign lol My brother typically gets over 500 kbps and is pretty consistant... lucky B... :l
Correct APN? I presume you mean Carrier? im with Orange and it all seems grand.. so i think anyways.
Build.prop, i wouldn't know where to start with that ,i presume make a backup and try flashing an update.zip, if any problems use restore?
Not quit sure what im looking for in Phone info, help me out ?
And im sure it's not the sim card, it's the new micro sim that came with the phone !

APN = access point name
and you would only have access to your build.prop(properties) if you are rooted.
phone info; try entering this into the dialer : *#*#4636#*#*
select phone information (then you might need to press menu button) and choose radio band from there. You may also be able to change this in settings.
Is 500kbs the fastest speed you guys have seen? sounds very odd. I think I may have heard of this.. being too close to a tower causes terrible speeds, if it is fact the case, you may want to try connecting to the next closest tower. there should be some free apps around to view your cell tower info and possibly even change towers.
500kbs is not 3g.

Yeah it looks like all my APN settings and band is correct, if they weren't i wouldn't really be on a 3g signal what so ever. No other useful information is seen in info, Also, i have tried switching between carriers and tried the speed test on many many differen't towers. Im really stumped myself, and my phones rooted, but without RUU i can't install any Radio drivers can i?

3G service usually does not get above 2mb which in reality is only 200kbs.. i ran a speed test on a buddy's iPhone and it was only 1.54mb which is only 150kbs.... So you are right in the mid grade of speed... Get a 4G cell...

Those are horrible speeds for 3G at the least. Absolutely atrocious!
Have you tried consulting your carrier? Perhaps they could resolve the issue.

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3G service usually does not get above 2mb which in reality is only 200kbs.. i ran a speed test on a buddy's iPhone and it was only 1.54mb which is only 150kbs.... So you are right in the mid grade of speed... Get a 4G cell...
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My brother has a HTC Sensation and is able to get 600 kb/s+ I hope your not confusing it with kbps ! Sorry if i confused you !
And yeah i contacted them a while ago and they said everything was fine from their end !
I have a HTC ONE X, surely that's capable of H+, Something isn't right.