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unroot using only sd card?

Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.

bee976 said:
Ok so My phone is not recognized by a computer, i have tried different drivers, cords, ROMs, no matter what I do my phone is not recognized. I took it to the sprint store and the tech there who also has a rooted hero couldn't get it to mount either, the phone just doesn't bring up any mount notification at the top. I have a nandroid backup with stock ROM but even when I do that it is still rooted, they will not give me a new one until it is unrooted. My only other option is to make an insurance claim since I cannot flash it back to stock.
My Question: Is there any way to flash to stock and get unrooted using only my SD card (I can plug it into my card reader and it works fine). Thank you for any help you can give.
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Sorry to report, the only option of unrooting is RUU, and this requires HTC Synch and a definate recognition on your PCs part.
Suggestions, anyone?

What version of Windows are you running? I have had issues with Windows 7 in the past. As weird as it sounds once I loaded PDAnet from the market on to my phone and the PDAnet client onto my computer. My phone was recognized. Is your computer charging the phone when plugged in?

its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!

This brings up another question....
What does Sprint actually check?
Do you really have to get back to 100% stock, or would putting the original recovery image on get you through?
Any current or former Sprint techs willing to chime in? Just how perfect do we have to get it?

chavo2005 said:
its possible.. but you'd need Flashrec, an unrooted original 1.5 rom, and the original recovery image..
ie: use the custom recovery to flash the unrooted rom, then flashrec to flash the original recovery image.. then remove flashrec..
just an idea!
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Actually, that just might work! Great idea chavo, very intuitive thinking!

I take back my last statement. I read somewhere flashrec doesnt work after youv flashed your imahe....google the unlockrs method on flashing a new recovery once already rooted; i think it involves some adb though :-(
Idk, thats as much as i know

I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.

chavo2005 said:
I know it works.. but I have an unrooted rom in a nandroid backup from when rooting the Sprint Hero first started.. lol not many people have those laying around, as most used the Asroot2 method of rooting and not Flashrec to flash the recovery.
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Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?

mountaindont said:
Yes...good lock finding a 100% stock 1.5 rom.
Could someone link/upload if they have acess?
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I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)

subliminalurge said:
I have my first nandroid from when I followed this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583291
Would that be enough? Of was it already too modified when I did the nandroid backup?
(disclaimer: It might take me a bit to dig it out....)
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Your nandroid wont work on another phone, and if it did, it would synch your contacts to their phones, passwords, apps, the whole shindig. Bad idea
We'll have to beg a dev for a stock 1.5 rom

you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean

chavo2005 said:
you can use a nandroid from another Sprint Hero.. done that too when i got my replacement phone! If anyones willing..
RUU, don't sign into google. Download and install Flashrec and flash the recovery through that and create a nandroid backup.. it will be clean
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Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me

mountaindont said:
Once again, very intuitive thinking! I thought maybe nandroid was device specific.
Sorry, no way in hell im RUU'ing after all the bricks. Ill stick with dcv2, its stock enough for me
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Nandroid is device specific to a point.. If you go in to the nandroid folder on the SD card you will see a folder labled HT********** that is specific to your phone, however you can take a nandroid from another phone and place it in that folder and backup from that.
i'd do the RUU but i'm using the updated radio.

I use a mac, but if indeed it isn't the windows driver, and you have tried other roms, then it only leaves the kernel (and the usb cable and phone usb hwd ).
So use what ever methods you used for the rom flashing, and flash a kernel.
Some ideas : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625940&page=1
( start at page 1 )
Just a thought.

isn't the nandroid image made right AFTER you root?
so then, that wouldn't be what you want.
Extract the stock rom from the RUU

ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Wow thank you everyone for all of the advice, i had all but given up hope since I had been all over google looking for an answer for about 2 weeks. I will try the nandroid backup above and report back. thank you everyone again, you may have just saved me an insurance claim.

Wow, glad I found this thread. I'm downloading that nandroid image right now because I'm going to probably end up taking my Hero in to get the dust cleaned out later this week. I think another option would be to extract the RUU and get the ROM.zip out of it, and then just flash that.

chavo2005 said:
ok.. here's an unrooted 1.5 Nandroid back up.
http://www.4shared.com/file/250722598/a6eddc31/NoRootNandroid.html
Download the zip, extract.. and place the folder NoRootNand on the SD card in SDCARD/nandroid/HT**********/
Boot into recovery, select restore as you would if you were restoring a backup you made -->Nand Restore-->HT**********--> and choose to restore NoRootNand
I'm using the RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery, so I am unable to verify if this is will work with an older recovery image.
if you have any questions feel free to ask.
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Ok I tried this and I am still rooted afterwards. I think that if you go to the sprint store and they can hit volume down and power, and get to the recovery menu then they will not take it back, no matter if the rom u are running is stock or not. any other ideas?

So.. what next?

Just purchased a i9000M.. rooted & unlocked.. (Rogers BlackBerry Convert! =P)
I'm totally new to the Android scene.. whats the next step really with my phone?
I'd start with maybe getting rid of Bell's bloatware?

check over the developer forum
see if you have a 3 button download mode or not
upgrade to JM8 firmware and install voodoo fix - your phone will suck without it
then browse the market for some fun apps

Yeah I do have 3 button download/recovery.
JM8 Firmware? Voodoo Fix?

aKeio said:
Just purchased a i9000M.. rooted & unlocked.. (Rogers BlackBerry Convert! =P)
I'm totally new to the Android scene.. whats the next step really with my phone?
I'd start with maybe getting rid of Bell's bloatware?
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Get Tayutama XWJM8 with Voodoo4 beta
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774950

Could somebody enlighten me on how flashing the ROM works??.. do I lose my data (contacts/other apps), every time I flash ROM?

check the "FAQ" a the top of the development section it will answer everything
but in short: no you don't lose data, but its highly recommended to backup anyway, it goes wrong easily, titaniumbackup (in the market) is a free app that let you backup (use "batch" option backup all) and you can copy it from the internal sdcard (/sdcard/titaniumbackup) to the external one or to your pc via usb, so you've a backup of your stuff forever
it doesnt backup the old rom
you use Odin to flash
ps see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786087

aKeio said:
Could somebody enlighten me on how flashing the ROM works??.. do I lose my data (contacts/other apps), every time I flash ROM?
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I dont belive so just make sure you have a backup.
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My phone can not use the Rom Manage

Hello. Please help me. my phone can not use the rom manage. I have used one once, but can not be used again. when I turn on the program, still connected 3g/wifi but nothing more happened at all. I have copied the program into the correct directory. My phone rooted.This phenomenon occurs after I Flast 2.1

What doesnt work? Does it not install? Why are you copying the app at all? Why not install from Market?

I installed the application from Market but I can not use the rom manage.
I don't know!

duongthanhcong said:
I installed the application from Market but I can not use the rom manage.
I don't know!
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Rom Manager*
You have to be rooted to use it.

You can't expect people to help you if you don't tell them the problem.
So its installed, did you flash the clockworkmod? Should be the top most option.

dcontrol said:
You can't expect people to help you if you don't tell them the problem.
So its installed, did you flash the clockworkmod? Should be the top most option.
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Also, did you download it from the market, or did you steal the pro version from online? I am asking because you said "I copied it to the right directory"

Maybe I understand his/her problem. Rooted, installed RM but cannot install Clockwork?
Few options here, search for the standalone update.zip with Clockwork and do it that way OR wait a few hours and try again.
The 1st choice I had to do once because RM wasn't liking my phone and the 2nd choice sometimes the server is down.

First, my phone t959 rom UVJI6 normal. Then my rom to version 2.2 T959UVJFD. I do not feel satisfied so I returned to the Odin 2.1.
My phone has a normal root and fix lag.
but then, I could not manage to use the rom again.
Sorry for my english level is limited. I'm from Vietnam

blizzard1017 said:
Maybe I understand his/her problem. Rooted, installed RM but cannot install Clockwork?
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Yes. this is my problem. How do I do now?
Thanks!

If youre trying to flash another rom you need to disable the lagfix first.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

My assumption is you have OCLF, try removing it then giving it a go.
Google a clockwork update zip that is pushable with ODIN, I found one the other day. I MAY have it still but I am not sure and I honestly have no clue where I found it, wasn't xda I am about 90% sure. It is not really a solid fix but will get you to where you have CWM. Rom Manager will not recognize you have it installed but when you go to enter recovery mode it will enter into CWM.
Did you by chance also flash a custom kernal? When I tested out a few I noticed my phone did the same thing, my knowledge currently doesn't expand far enough to know if they can even be related though. I am still learning a lot myself.

blizzard1017 said:
My assumption is you have OCLF, try removing it then giving it a go.
Google a clockwork update zip that is pushable with ODIN, I found one the other day. I MAY have it still but I am not sure and I honestly have no clue where I found it, wasn't xda I am about 90% sure. It is not really a solid fix but will get you to where you have CWM. Rom Manager will not recognize you have it installed but when you go to enter recovery mode it will enter into CWM.
Did you by chance also flash a custom kernal? When I tested out a few I noticed my phone did the same thing, my knowledge currently doesn't expand far enough to know if they can even be related though. I am still learning a lot myself.
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Always living up to your name...
I had mine fixed up through some trial and error hopefully this gets the OP in the right direction.

[Q] Just Rooted, Want EB01

So I just rooted my Fascinate (something I never thought I would do) and now I want to get EB01 on my phone. I already backed up everything with Titanium Backup, but I just don't know what I need to do now to get EB01 onto my phone. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am new to all of this and need some straight forward help. Thank you.

The 1st thing you are going to want to make sure is that you only have user apps backed up with Titanium Backup. Then you will need Odin 1.3 (Google is your friend here) because you will be flashing a new modem and Odin is the only way which to do so.
Now the easiest way to go to Stock EB01 is the all in one EB01 tar file that can be found here.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/sa...roms-w-root-new-clockwork-updated-2-11-a.html
This will completely format your phone. Flash the .tar file using Odin with The PDA BUTTON (USING THE PHONE BUTTON IN ODIN WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE!!!) and afterward you will have to resetup your phone again (this is normal).
Go to the market and reinstall Titanium Backup and restore ONLY your user apps as restoring system apps would probably cause your phone to act strangly. Afterwards you should be set.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

dont forget about the new clockwork recovery as well, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
flash this after you flash EB01. it might be a little wonky at first, so read through the thread for details on how to make it not wonky, i.e. getting a working update.zip.

Try this, I used it without a problem.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948722
This is an alternate thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951194

mrodsunshine said:
dont forget about the new clockwork recovery as well, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942021
flash this after you flash EB01. it might be a little wonky at first, so read through the thread for details on how to make it not wonky, i.e. getting a working update.zip.
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the link he gave from droidforums is the all in one odin... already has the new clockwork in it

Alright cool, thank you guys very much, I'll start working on this when I get home
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

So just to verify, titanium will backup even backup in app data, like my high score in doodle jump stuff like that
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MyNameIsColeB said:
So just to verify, titanium will backup even backup in app data, like my high score in doodle jump stuff like that
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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Yes, but it won't back up your SMS messages, OS settings (the stuff you can adjust in the 'Settings' app), and some other stuff. There's several apps on the market to back up your SMS messages to your SD card, then restore after the backup (the others shouldn't be that big of a deal to have to reconfigure).

KitsuneKnight said:
Yes, but it won't back up your SMS messages, OS settings (the stuff you can adjust in the 'Settings' app), and some other stuff. There's several apps on the market to back up your SMS messages to your SD card, then restore after the backup (the others shouldn't be that big of a deal to have to reconfigure).
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K, thanks for clearing that up

ok, i just got my fascinate last night and im coming from the droid 2 where everything is super easy. i have odin and the super clean image but it gives an error when i try to run it. where do i get the pit file i need? im about to throw this phone against the wall cus the guy i got it from had dl30 on it AND THERE IS NO SMS OR MMS. someone wanna point me in the right direction??

I want to thank everyone who helped me out, I NOW HAVE FROYO ON MY FASCINATE, and I am very happy so thank you once again for getting me a nice big bowl of frozen yogurt!

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mikeyinid said:
ok, i just got my fascinate last night and im coming from the droid 2 where everything is super easy. i have odin and the super clean image but it gives an error when i try to run it. where do i get the pit file i need? im about to throw this phone against the wall cus the guy i got it from had dl30 on it AND THERE IS NO SMS OR MMS. someone wanna point me in the right direction??
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Go to the Droid forums link at the top of this thread. And you don't need to do anything with pit
Sent from my rooted froyo Fascinate

[Q] Galaxy s4 Rooted and Custom Rom Problems

I have a Canadian S4 and rooted using the twrp method and then installed the vigin google play edition rom. Everything worked fine at first when I installed it but i was fiddling around after in twrp and thought i should format the internal storage and start completely fresh and now if I install any rom including my original backup the device will boot up into the system fine for the first time but if the device resets after that it just hangs on the galaxy S4 logo and i have to reboot into recovery and flash again. Any ideas on how i could fix this? Thanks!!!

Try this, in twrp go into advanced wipe and wipe dalvik cache, cache, system, data and android secure. Then flash your nandroid.

I don't have a nandroid I have a twrp backup

Jaygrippa said:
I don't have a nandroid I have a twrp backup
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That is a nandroid.

Dont use TWRP for the S4
From what I have experience and I believe others have as well, if you used TWRP to format where you had to type yes, you are pretty much screwed trying to get things working properly again. Maybe it is certain phones, sd cards, roms, who knows, but after I typed yes in TWRP to format everything, I could flash a rom but couldnt restart and things were buggy. I had to use odin to flash back to stock, re-root and flash the rom again. Now everything is 190% considering my battery life went from 6 hours to 28 with medium usage.
I have always loved TWRP on my other phones, but for the S4, its more frustration and using with caution than its worth.
Another word of caution, use windows to fix your phone. Im on linux and its too much of a pain in the ass to use odin/heimdall to go back to stock for newbs. On windows I went to stock and rooted again in no time.
Good luck!

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That is a nandroid.
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After doing that stuff in twrp should I flash right back to my backup of stock touch wiz or straight into the ROM of my choosing? Whenever I would have to reflash I would have to format he internal memory or it wouldn't work

Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?

Jaygrippa said:
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
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You might have to. I had the same problem today where if the phone rebooted I would just get a black screen. I ended up using Odin with the stock rom, reinstalling twrp and then restoring my backup. I'm pretty sure it was a rom I flashed that caused the initial problem and only Odin would clear things up.

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Jaygrippa said:
Ya I did the thing where I typed yes... Crap ya its my first time doing all this stuff so you suggest I Re do all of the rooting stuff and then flash my backup I made?
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Actually its going back to stock, then rerooting. All I did was follow androidrootz guide here:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html
After that, motochopper back to get root and followed this guide to install OUDHS recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
This worked for me, at least for now. Hope it can help you out.

ericchaffey said:
Actually its going back to stock, then rerooting. All I did was follow androidrootz guide here:
http://www.androidrootz.com/2013/06/how-to-unroot-unbrick-galaxy-s4.html
After that, motochopper back to get root and followed this guide to install OUDHS recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291956
This worked for me, at least for now. Hope it can help you out.
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Hey thanks a bunch ill try that out later. I am at work right now and i can still use my phone on the rom i have just as long as i dont reset it. Ill try all of this out when i get home and see if that works. Thanks for everyones help
Now the only problem is i have to find a Fido ROM

Jaygrippa said:
Hey thanks a bunch ill try that out later. I am at work right now and i can still use my phone on the rom i have just as long as i dont reset it. Ill try all of this out when i get home and see if that works. Thanks for everyones help
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A couple other notes, to avoid other possible problems, use the original samsung cord when connecting to your computer. Switching USB ports can help if there are transfer or other issues. Its pretty easy and straight forward if everything works out well, but there are so many gawt dayum variables that minor issues can cause problems, though may never manifest.
Hopefully this works and please post some results to help the same in need.

ericchaffey said:
A couple other notes, to avoid other possible problems, use the original samsung cord when connecting to your computer. Switching USB ports can help if there are transfer or other issues. Its pretty easy and straight forward if everything works out well, but there are so many gawt dayum variables that minor issues can cause problems, though may never manifest.
Hopefully this works and please post some results to help the same in need.
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Ya thinks i will, now im just in the process of finding a rom for Fido, they are owned by rogers so im not sure if the rogers rom will work, This android stuff is so stressful its my first android phone so i hope all goes well!

Jaygrippa said:
Ya thinks i will, now im just in the process of finding a rom for Fido, they are owned by rogers so im not sure if the rogers rom will work, This android stuff is so stressful its my first android phone so i hope all goes well!
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I get firmware from sammobile.com. You have to register but it's free. You'll download a zip. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. Use that in Odin, PDA.

jd1639 said:
I get firmware from sammobile.com. You have to register but it's free. You'll download a zip. Use 7-zip to extract the .tar.md5 file from it. Use that in Odin, PDA.
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ya even they dont have a specific "Fido" firmware...

Anyone know if I can just use the Rogers ROM its pretty much the same company

Jaygrippa said:
Anyone know if I can just use the Rogers ROM its pretty much the same company
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It'll work. It'll just put their bloatware on and the boot animation will be theirs

Reflashed
Ok so i reflashed to the stock rom using odin and bam it works again, im just wondering what is a good way now too root, and install the same rom i had

This will have everything you need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42320391

Thanks everyone for your help, I got my phone back up and running stock, then i rooted using CF- Autoroot and installed twrp again. I then reinstalled the rom i wanted to use and everything is in tip top order

Jaygrippa said:
Thanks everyone for your help, I got my phone back up and running stock, then i rooted using CF- Autoroot and installed twrp again. I then reinstalled the rom i wanted to use and everything is in tip top order
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Glad to here it. Have fun.