I discovered a partial wakelock bug in Handcent recently. It it not isolated to the Epic as when I went to the Handcent forum to repot it, an EVO user had already posted one, but I figured I would post the same info here that was posted on the official Handcent bug report as a fyi.
"Issue: When popup setting is enabled, phone enters partial wake lock any time a message is received. The wakelock is released after the message has been retrieved/looked at. So if a text comes in at 2am, wakelock is present until 7am when the phone is looked at again.
Screen on for popup :disabled
dim popup screen : disabled
Show when locked : disabled
In fact, every setting under popup settings contains no checkmark.
If there is a debugging mode in this software, please provide instructions how to enable. This may help in troubleshooting
Spareparts indicates partial wakelock for handcent. The longer the interval between receiving a text and actually looking at it, the longer the wakelock period. Battery drain is higher."
Handcent released an update today, but it does not address this issue. So if you are having battery drain issues and you use Handcent, this could be why. If your in the habit of checking your texts as soon as you get them, this might not affect you all that much.
I have switched to Go SMS for now as it is extremely similar to Handcent and does not exhibit this bug.
Also, forgot to add that the bug does not discriminate between Eclair or Froyo.
Right on, thanks for posting. This is really good to know. So, if i understand correctly, does hitting the 'x' and closing out the popup stop the partial wake? I.e. the partial wake is directly correlated to the popup? only?
If not for the transparent themed Handcent im using, id totally switch to Go sms as well..
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decalex said:
Right on, thanks for posting. This is really good to know. So, if i understand correctly, does hitting the 'x' and closing out the popup stop the partial wake? I.e. the partial wake is directly correlated to the popup? only?
If not for the transparent themed Handcent im using, id totally switch to Go sms as well..
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That's correct it's connected to the pop up only. If you don't use the popup you don't have to worry about it.
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I think the only time I wouldn't check a message for a lengthy time is while sleeping, and my phone is plugged in while I'm sleeping. I'd definitely like it to be fixed if it does this, but I doubt it is going to bother many people.
I made the switch to Go SMS and have been using juice defender and my battery life is crazy good compared to my Evo. Go sms is constantly updating and the dev is good about implementing user suggestions, so it should catch up with handcent soon.
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I think the only time I wouldn't check a message for a lengthy time is while sleeping, and my phone is plugged in while I'm sleeping. I'd definitely like it to be fixed if it does this, but I doubt it is going to bother many people.
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I tend to be a little anal when it comes to these things, and the fact that I'm constantly beta testing stuff on my phones means I monitor this stuff pretty closely. Based on my experience, unless you have an app that is misbehaving, Android System will be the biggest user of partial wake time. It's usually around 1 minute per hour of system uptime on average. However, even if you only wait 30 seconds to a couple minutes to check SMS messages when you get them(with Handcent popups on), that partial wake time adds up pretty quick, which can more than triple your overall wake time causing a significant battery hit.
Update: Latest version of Handcent still has not addressed this issue.
Still exists in the most recent version.
The issue is not only limited to the popups part of the notifications. If led blinking is enabled, partial wake results as well.
i also have this problem on my nexus one! =/ really liked handcent, but i will try Go Sms now.
The problem still exists even with handcent version 3.9.7.
GoSMS does not drain the battery but the notification popup is not as good as handcents popup.
Hope this will be fixed soon.
Does this problem happen only with popup enabled?
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Does this problem happen only with popup enabled?
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Yes, the pop-up causes a wakelock.
Recently, a user in the Handcent forums claims that the bug does not occur in AOSP ROMs.
That's good, I've never used the popup feature anyway, its annoying to me.
Any progress on this? Because the bug is still here
This has to be my wake lock issue. I have all pop up crap off but no matter what I do I always get wake lock. Gonna try go SMS.
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I highly recommend Go SMS. If you don't like the popup for Go SMS make a recommendation to the dev. The dev(s) for Go are VERY open to feedback and recommendations and they implement upgrades quickly.
I'm using Handcent 3.9.8.5 and I don't seem to have any of these issues. I have all the popups turned off as well, and do not experience any wakelock with this app.
Definitely a battery drain
I've been able to replicate this, and it's related to the pop up notification. What's interesting is that my Droid 2 Global (Gingerbread) notifies me, if I don't close the popup, that the Handcent SMS Japanese Font Pack has been running for XX minutes, would you like to close it?
It may be related to the popup and a font pack? At any rate, my phone is blisteringly hot, and the battery goes south very quickly if I leave the popup on. If I catch the SMS very quickly and close the popup/respond, I don't get the issue.
I love Handcent, but this is a big issue for me, since I don't always get to or notice my texts right away, and I can't have it draining my battery down to nothing if I'm in a meeting and can't check my phone. Hopefully they'll fix this.
My question isn't related to any issues you guys are having, just curious on the possibilities of the following.
Is it possible to only have the popup and not the notification come up on the notification bar?
I find it pointless to have my notification sound go off twice for each individual message, when I only want the popups, and not a notification on the notification bar.
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My question isn't related to any issues you guys are having, just curious on the possibilities of the following.
Is it possible to only have the popup and not the notification come up on the notification bar?
I find it pointless to have my notification sound go off twice for each individual message, when I only want the popups, and not a notification on the notification bar.
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Disable (uncheck) autoretrieve and notifications in the "standard" messaging app.
Related
Lost or removed features:
- Automatic brightness
- Green Led notification for unread SMS
Worsened features:
- GPS settings
- GPS popup warning each time GPS is enabled
New bugs:
- Low resolution contact pictures
Replaced functionalities:
- Dedicated SMS backup to SD card, superseded by Backup&Restore application, which is unable to restore old backup format.
I would like to collect and discuss all the features removed or lost in the 2.1 update, as well as the new bugs, annoyances, and the features that have somehow worsened.
Please post you list, I will update accordingly the opening post.
This should also be the place where to discuss these issues or post workarounds.
For me a big problem is GPS. The additional setting is gone, and now every time you activate GPS via the widget, you get the confirmation popup
But even worst, the confirmation popup appears even if an application enables GPS in background!
I read auto bright is still there, seems it is on the widget now
Lost Features :
No more Green Led notification when you receive a sms
gtrab said:
I read auto bright is still there, seems it is on the widget now
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No, it's a three state: minimum bright; settings bright; maximum bright
Shadback said:
Lost Features :
No more Green Led notification when you receive a sms
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Supposedly works just fine if the screen is off.
Feature Worsened:
The signal-to-noise ratio on these forums is far far too low.
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Supposedly works just fine if the screen is off.
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Just done a test. With the screen off, I sent me an SMS. I got the new message sound, and then the green led remained off.
You can use BLINK for your LED thing.
I been using it but not sure if you can use it for SMS...
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Just done a test. With the screen off, I sent me an SMS. I got the new message sound, and then the green led remained off.
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Weird. I've found my phone not blinking for other notifications too, on 1.6.
Have you tried another SMS app?
zm4 said:
You can use BLINK for your LED thing.
I been using it but not sure if you can use it for SMS...
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But it just worked on 1.6.... so definitely wither a new bug or a removed feature!
lornova said:
But it just worked on 1.6.... so definitely wither a new bug or a removed feature!
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I'm gonna go with bug.
flashing green light every 5 seconds on sms recieved using stock message app.
was it a constant light on 1.6 i cant remember now has it been that long lol
Auto brightness is not removed it's on the widget as the middle click!
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Just done a test. With the screen off, I sent me an SMS. I got the new message sound, and then the green led remained off.
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are u guys sure ive left mine unread for the last 5 mins and its still flashing every 5 seconds till read it.
you know what else downgraded? when using the default browser and you are trying to look at all your windows open it shows them in a list not in a screenshot
Sorry for the Led Light bug,apprently,it seems to works. Sorry for my mistake.
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Sorry for the Led Light bug,apprently,it seems to works. Sorry for my mistake.
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its one less thing to worry about .
I had a total freeze on stock browser last night couldnt close it down properley had to restart. got used to that though from nokia 5800/x6. thought id seen the last of it.
Luckily it has not happened since so ill give it the benefit of the doubt this time.
worsened: The exchange native support is removed from Android 2.1 and they still got Moxier in there
I am going to use my root to remove all default Google apps so I can install the cyanogenmod versions... see if i can't get exchange back in the mail app and remove bloat.
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The new sms is really anoying. There r no auto bookmark to the newest message like before
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I bought an LG G2 yesterday after changing my mind and not buying a Note 3 instead. It's the T-Mobile version in black (fingerprint magnet, no white ones in stock unfortunately). I'm coming from a Galaxy S2, and everything feels amazing compared to it. There's one thing I don't like, and that I can't figure out... When I get a text on my LG G2, the screen lights up, every single time. I'm a pretty heavy text user, and I average about 10,000 texts a month. Sometimes I'm in a lecture and I can't text back or use my phone, but it's sitting in my pocket with the screen on wasting my battery and opening up all kinds of apps. How do I disable this? Thanks.
I know you can change text apps that have this option.
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I bought an LG G2 yesterday after changing my mind and not buying a Note 3 instead. It's the T-Mobile version in black (fingerprint magnet, no white ones in stock unfortunately). I'm coming from a Galaxy S2, and everything feels amazing compared to it. There's one thing I don't like, and that I can't figure out... When I get a text on my LG G2, the screen lights up, every single time. I'm a pretty heavy text user, and I average about 10,000 texts a month. Sometimes I'm in a lecture and I can't text back or use my phone, but it's sitting in my pocket with the screen on wasting my battery and opening up all kinds of apps. How do I disable this? Thanks.
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If you are using the stock TXT app. Open the App/hit button for the menu, then settings/notifications. you should be able to do what you want there.
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If you are using the stock TXT app. Open the App/hit button for the menu, then settings/notifications. you should be able to do what you want there.
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That's what I tried, but there's nothing about the screen in there.
I have notifications enabled, new message pop-up enabled, preview enabled, notification sound (text ringtone), vibrate set to always, and repeat alert set to every 2 minutes. Besides those settings, there's nothing, and none of them control the screen unfortunately.
l33t p1mp said:
That's what I tried, but there's nothing about the screen in there.
I have notifications enabled, new message pop-up enabled, preview enabled, notification sound (text ringtone), vibrate set to always, and repeat alert set to every 2 minutes. Besides those settings, there's nothing, and none of them control the screen unfortunately.
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Cant you just on click "notifications display message notification" ??
I'm using the app SMS pop-up to manage all my SMS notification.
The stock app has it's notifications all turned off.
As for SMS popup, there is a setting to keep the screen off when SMS is received.
Well.. I don't like the screen to turn on as well (I don't use any lock screens) and also, I like the pop up feature.
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Cant you just on click "notifications display message notification" ??
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It's just a check box, so if I uncheck that box, I don't get any notifications.
MasK said:
I'm using the app SMS pop-up to manage all my SMS notification.
The stock app has it's notifications all turned off.
As for SMS popup, there is a setting to keep the screen off when SMS is received.
Well.. I don't like the screen to turn on as well (I don't use any lock screens) and also, I like the pop up feature.
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Although that's not the optimal solution, I guess it'll have to do. I'll try that right now, thank you for your help.
Ok I got 8.1 today, I like the changes and now I like this phone again !
Except the stupid Android System battery use notification.
How do you turn off this annoying notification ?
Only option it gives you is to either uninstall or force stop the apps.
I am sick of seeing this notification .
It's happened like 4 times today.
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Ok I got 8.1 today, I like the changes and now I like this phone again !
Except the stupid Android System battery use notification.
How do you turn off this annoying notification ?
Only option it gives you is to either uninstall or force stop the apps.
I am sick of seeing this notification .
It's happened like 4 times today.
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As with all offending notifications. Long press it, and turn it off
Skripka said:
As with all offending notifications. Long press it, and turn it off
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I've already done this as well, though I wish you could turn it off on specific apps. For example, it kept telling me that a certain app was using too much battery. When I opened the notification, it shows the offending app has used 0% battery, so I don't know what the deal is. So I turned off battery notifications as I could not get it to stop notifying me. But it could come in handy in the future if other apps actually are using too much battery. It appears that it's all or none with the notification though.
I always have an Android and a iPhone. Over the years I have found the iPhone to work better for me. I do at times pick up the Android and quickly remember why I left it on the desk. I just bought a 6T hoping many of my concerns had been resolved with the latest version of Android. Here are a few of the issues I have that do not happen with my iPhone, if you have any ideas please let me know.
- Proximity sensor not working all the time. Cheek selects features/apps on/off while on call.
- Gmail pushes only sometimes. Not consistent. Open app and receive all the emails at once. Notify every time selected.
- Display unreadable in sunlight. (likely no solution other than crank the display up)
- WiFi turns off when screen sleeps. Turn screen on and all missed notifications happen.
- Notifications on ambient screen are so short you can’t read them in time. Any way to lengthen the time?
- Facebook Messenger while in open conversation has notification pop ups regarding the conversation when in the conversation.
- Music quality from Spotify flat. Normalize volume off already.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I always have an Android and a iPhone. Over the years I have found the iPhone to work better for me. I do at times pick up the Android and quickly remember why I left it on the desk. I just bought a 6T hoping many of my concerns had been resolved with the latest version of Android. Here are a few of the issues I have that do not happen with my iPhone, if you have any ideas please let me know.
- Proximity sensor not working all the time. Cheek selects features/apps on/off while on call.
- Gmail pushes only sometimes. Not consistent. Open app and receive all the emails at once. Notify every time selected.
- Display unreadable in sunlight. (likely no solution other than crank the display up)
- WiFi turns off when screen sleeps. Turn screen on and all missed notifications happen.
- Notifications on ambient screen are so short you can’t read them in time. Any way to lengthen the time?
- Facebook Messenger while in open conversation has notification pop ups regarding the conversation when in the conversation.
- Music quality from Spotify flat. Normalize volume off already.
Any help would be appreciated.
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For wifi turning off at night, Settings - Battery - Battery Optimization - Advanced Optimization (Three dots) - Turn off Sleep standby optimization
ram4ufriends said:
For wifi turning off at night, Settings - Battery - Battery Optimization - Advanced Optimization (Three dots) - Turn off Sleep standby optimization
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Not an option on my phone.
I also found out in a meeting today the tethering was greyed out preventing me from using my Mac. Thankfully I had my iPhone and tethered from that.
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Not an option on my phone.
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Settings - Battery - Battery Optimization - Advanced Optimization (Three dots) - Turn off Sleep standby optimization
Gmail is apparently notorious for weird push notifications on Pie. You can try going into Settings>Battery>Battery optimization and turning it off for Gmail, though I don't know if that will help with push notifications or drastically change your battery life. Otherwise, a lot of people have (reportedly have) good success with the BlueMail app. I use Inbox, and it hasn't been a problem for me.
Display: Is your display set to adaptive brightness? The best way would probably just be to turn to max brightness when you need it.
Wifi: I believe Settings>Wifi>Wifi>Wifi preferences>Turn on Wifi automatically should fix this issue.
Notifications: Are we talking about the notifications waking the screen when they come in? Or just the length of the time the ambient display stays on? Because I don't think you can change the latter.
FB Messenger: I use Messenger Lite and I don't have this problem. Boyfriend is a recent iPhone convert, and he says it's more like the Messenger on iOS than normal Messenger. Who knows?
The funny thing is mail on iOS is even worse when it comes to push email notifications for me..I get all my push notifications on Gmail on pie..so ymmv I guess.
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The funny thing is mail on iOS is even worse when it comes to push email notifications for me..I get all my push notifications on Gmail on pie..so ymmv I guess.
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Agree but Gmail on iOS is much better than on Android. It pushes immediately, every time and allows for HTML email signatures.
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Settings - Battery - Battery Optimization - Advanced Optimization (Three dots) - Turn off Sleep standby optimization
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Where am I not seeing it?
mang0 said:
Gmail is apparently notorious for weird push notifications on Pie. You can try going into Settings>Battery>Battery optimization and turning it off for Gmail,
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Gmail does not show up
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Gmail does not show up
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Ah yeah you might be out of luck on that one then. People have been having problems with that for a while, so best bet might just be to use a diff app for better push notifications. Might be because Pie doesn't allow you to toggle that option for Gmail!
Hey guys.
Just got my new S10+ and I've notice that when my screen is asleep, I don't receive any notifications until I either lift the device or push the power button to wake it up.
I've checked my battery optimization settings, made sure the apps I wanted weren't controlled in the background
I have the regular S10 but I get that too, mainly with gmail but even now when I used the phone the notification of a new gmail doesn't come up. sometimes they come through, half the time not. never had such problems with my old phone
yep, same thing here on 10+. driving me nuts !! and edge light doesn't work as well.
i tried every option and can't figure it out what's the problem.
I also have never seen the edge lightning when the screen is off
latino147 said:
I also have never seen the edge lightning when the screen is off
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It's pretty cool. I like how when are In a movie app you can still interact without leaving the movie app.
But to clarify mine is working with the screen off. Dumb question I know but are you sure it's enabled?
To me this is one of the coolest features of the device.
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I have the regular S10 but I get that too, mainly with gmail but even now when I used the phone the notification of a new gmail doesn't come up. sometimes they come through, half the time not. never had such problems with my old phone
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You have to be more specific with your issue... But, go into your message setting and make sure message pop up is turned on. If it's turned on, it could be a glitch. Just go into your your phone's settings, hit apps, find messages and then tap on it. Then find storage and hit Clear cache and storage. See if that helps.
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You have to be more specific with your issue... But, go into your message setting and make sure message pop up is turned on. If it's turned on, it could be a glitch. Just go into your your phone's settings, hit apps, find messages and then tap on it. Then find storage and hit Clear cache and storage. See if that helps.
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Yes, pop up setting is turned on but with gmail is a hit or miss, sometimes I get notified, sometimes not and it's mostly when screen is off. my main problem is with another app that I'm not receiving any notifications even though everything is enabled and I cleared cache, re-installed and what not. I have no problem getting notifications from whatsapp, missed calls, sms etc.
Also, when I clear the notifications, the badges on the app's icons also dissapear even though I didn't yet go inside the app to see it. is it possible to keep showing the badges after I clear the notifications? I don't know if it's unique to android pie but it shouldn't be like this.
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Yes, pop up setting is turned on but with gmail is a hit or miss, sometimes I get notified, sometimes not and it's mostly when screen is off. my main problem is with another app that I'm not receiving any notifications even though everything is enabled and I cleared cache, re-installed and what not. I have no problem getting notifications from whatsapp, missed calls, sms etc.
Also, when I clear the notifications, the badges on the app's icons also dissapear even though I didn't yet go inside the app to see it. is it possible to keep showing the badges after I clear the notifications? I don't know if it's unique to android pie but it shouldn't be like this.
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I believe that the pop up messages only work on certain applications to my knowledge. I've seen messages come up but, I've never really payed attention to my gmail yet because i usually get notified on my galaxy watch. The phone is still too new even for me. I'll test it out some more.
I'd just be happy to get all notifications from all my apps and keep badges even after I cleared the notification.
yesterday i saw edge light for first time, but it only works when screen is ON. what really cancels the purpose of it.
screen OFF "edge light" doesn't work.
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It's pretty cool. I like how when are In a movie app you can still interact without leaving the movie app.
But to clarify mine is working with the screen off. Dumb question I know but are you sure it's enabled?
To me this is one of the coolest features of the device.
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Yup, the feature is enabled, and I have assigned 6 apps to show notifications with the light. They do work when the screen is on, but not when they're on.
I got workaround by installing Glimpse Notification. The edge lighting showing while screen is off but what disappoint me it not showing the notification text.
My s7 with s9 rom showing edge lighting with notification text without using any apps though. I think maybe is pie rom? Or just s10 rom?
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Yup, the feature is enabled, and I have assigned 6 apps to show notifications with the light. They do work when the screen is on, but not when they're on.
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Actually I'm finding it hit or miss. Sometimes it works and sometimes it does not