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Pretty much as topic, not sure if anyone has any first hand experience of it.
higly doubt that since i heard 3g issues were because of tmobile. So far i havent heard of bad reception from the early incredible reviewers but we wont know till its out.
i doubt it... seeing as how the chipset is different(cdma chipset not gsm) and the carrier is different... your results may very tho...
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Sorry I wasnt very specifc, I was thinking in the UK, O2 to be specific. N1 and BBerry Bold 9000 sitting next to each other, N1 on not even half 2G, BBerry on max 3g.
Well considering it won't be released in the UK you'll never know? Why even ask?
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Well considering it won't be released in the UK you'll never know? Why even ask?
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I was hoping we would eventually get a UK version, but obviously we've just been shafted with the desire.... WE HAD THE N1 ALREADY WHY GIVE US THE SAME PHONE
Really doubt it. T-Mobile 3G bands require a second Antenna. The Antenna was located at the bottom of the nexus which was a design flaw and thus why 3G was terrible. Not to mention T-Mobile has terrible 3G coverage.
I just made the move from T-mo Nexus one to the Incredible through Verizon.
I had two replacement devices sent to me because of the 3g issues and all the other problems this device was plagued with from day one.
The incredible so far has been perfect. No 3G issues at all.
I am sure that T-mo's 3g coverage was partly to blame but that wasn't the only cause of this problem. With a T-mo G1 and a T-mo Nexus one sitting side by side often the N1 would bounce back and forth between 3g and Edge if it was able to get the 3g at all. This was with all 3 N1's I used. all the while my G1 had a perfect 3g connection.
Not the Incredible. Great phone. Incredibly snappy. Fast 3g through Verizon. No complaints as of yet.
Fingers Crossed...
my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes lucky.....
ive also read that a lot of phones has been rebooting randomly on its own, and some speculate on that low signal. you think his phone is defective?
one of the area's the rebooting was happening in (reportedly) was one of the Carolinas (quite a few customers), and Verizon speculated that it had to do with the local towers causing the problem,
Also the signal bar indicator looks to be a software problem, do a comparison of signal strength and you will see what I'm talking about. I looked at 3 different phones that had full bars, mine had only one bar..but when you look at the signal strength it was almost identical.
my major gripe is battery life, but I just ordered the Seidio replacement
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Really doubt it. T-Mobile 3G bands require a second Antenna. The Antenna was located at the bottom of the nexus which was a design flaw and thus why 3G was terrible. Not to mention T-Mobile has terrible 3G coverage.
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Lots of HTC phones have the antenna at the bottom of the phone The Touch HD and the Incredible to name a few. \
I have had no 3G issues, The antenna indicator always reads a bar less then my droid did in the same spot but the phones perform the same and I have read that this is most likely a false reading
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my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes lucky.....
ive also read that a lot of phones has been rebooting randomly on its own, and some speculate on that low signal. you think his phone is defective?
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
You canals force 3g by dialing #*#*4636*#*# and select evdo from phone information menu. That's what I use when I really need to browse.
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
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duh why didnt i think of that??? LOL
my 3G reception has been terrible on two Incredibles. varies from -100 to -105 dBm. and its not a service area issue. my room mate has a droid and gets excellent 3G speed and call quality in the same room. My data speeds are slower than at&t 2G and voice is to the point of unusable. some of these phones that go out are certainly bad
Verizon CS has been very helpful in this process, but i still dont have a phone thats usable
my friends incredible southern california area has been getting really low 3g signals. im always at full HSDPA bars and he gets 1 or two bars if hes l
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Check the dB's, not the "bars". Bars read a little lower, but signal strength is better on DI compared to a lot of other phones.
Overall, I thought moto droid's quality and reception were good, the DI appears to be a few steps above that!
So far, DI's been flawless!!
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I checked my signal strength compared to my fiance's droid, my incredible got the same and sometimes better. the bars on the incredible lagged some and would show one less. For the most part they fluctuated about the same.
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Any ex evo users notice reception is not as great as it was on the evo. My gf used to get 2-3 bars with the evo and now her epic struggles for one. Maybe that kickstand really did work as an antenna lol
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I've had 2 epics and 2 evos, and have many friends with evos. In my case the Epics always had better reception, or at least showed more bars then the evos.
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Any ex evo users notice reception is not as great as it was on the evo. My gf used to get 2-3 bars with the evo and now her epic struggles for one. Maybe that kickstand really did work as an antenna lol
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I have both. The Epic is better. It reports the signal as lower from time to time, but it is definitely better. Additionally, the WiFi on the Epic is absolutely better than the EVO's.
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I have both. The Epic is better. It reports the signal as lower from time to time, but it is definitely better. Additionally, the WiFi on the Epic is absolutely better than the EVO's.
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I agree the epic is better in every way. Check out what people are saying on my post about why we have to epic over the evo
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At my house I used to get 10mbps down with the evo. Now I get maximum of 6. I remember getting that speedboost and better reception after 2 radio updates.
i just got off the phone with Sprint.. I upgraded to the S from an EVO.. anyone on sprint with one? any issues? etc.. the camera on my evo SUCKED .. never was good..
anywho.. thanks!
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ummm... do some reading on here.
besides radio signal issues on some of the handsets (some users don't experience it), i like pretty much everything about the ns over the evo. the camera doesn't shoot 720 like the evo does, but somehow it looks a lot better.
oh yes, welcome!
I came from an EVO as well. Besides the known issues like signal I am loving things phone. EVO feels like a brick after using this.
cool.. well my camera sucks.. so.. anything would be an improvement..
Upgraded from the hero. No signal issues in my area. Its a greaaaat phone IMO
yeah, I too came from an Evo and having no issues... phones faster, better battery, better screen, lighter, less bloatware-y, etc... glad I upgraded
it's a great phone, it will be better once they resolve the signal issues that are plaguing most users.
I switched to the NS4G from the EVO 4G as well and not one regret here. Luckily I am not having the signal strength problem. The people on the EVO forum that think that just because the processor is the same speed as on the EVO that it is not an upgrade. I disagree. The hardware in the NS4G is much better than the EVO and this thing boots in mere seconds. GPU intensive gaming is amazing compared to the EVO, and seriously the only thing I miss about the EVO is the larger screen, but believe me the higher resolution on the NS4G and the super amoled screen make up for the size difference. It is slimmer, lighter, faster, better battery life and just an all around better phone. I hope you like it as much as I do.
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I switched to the NS4G from the EVO 4G as well and not one regret here. Luckily I am not having the signal strength problem. The people on the EVO forum that think that just because the processor is the same speed as on the EVO that it is not an upgrade. I disagree. The hardware in the NS4G is much better than the EVO and this thing boots in mere seconds. GPU intensive gaming is amazing compared to the EVO, and seriously the only thing I miss about the EVO is the larger screen, but believe me the higher resolution on the NS4G and the super amoled screen make up for the size difference. It is slimmer, lighter, faster, better battery life and just an all around better phone. I hope you like it as much as I do.
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Good points, but fyi, it's the same resolution as the Evo.
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Yeah same resolution. Anyone else notice much better batterylife with 4g on?
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Yeah same resolution. Anyone else notice much better batterylife with 4g on?
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Yeah I notice it. Its because it has a better sleep policy...I notice that it turns 4g to idle when not in use.
I just upgraded from a Samsung Moment which is one of the worst phones in the history of phones. I'm not used to having a GPS get a lock in under 5min and no data lock-ups randomly. Plus the battery life on the Moment is seriously the worst so even thought this phones doesn't have the best battery life, anything is an upgrade over the Moment. Only thing that sucks is the radios are not strong in the Nexus S and hope they fix it soon.
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Yeah same resolution. Anyone else notice much better batterylife with 4g on?
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Yeah same resolution but is smaller screen so it looks better, and the amoled makes the evo look washed out.
Anyways I came from the evo, and I like it so far GPU is better and for some reason it feels faster then the evo, the hummingbird processor is better then the evo's processor, the camera takes better pics and even in the dark it works better then the evo even tho it doesn't have touch to focus, 720p wasn't a big deal I use my videos to sent by email and 720p were too big, I got a point to shoot the records 720p /60fps for that, no radio problems here, mmm what else? ?? Oh yeah the speaker in the back seems to be less loud then the evo but the speaker up front (the one you use to.make calls) is really good, 4G seems to kill battery faster but that's something that I would expect but it does kill battery slower then the evo (you won't notice unless you have measure time on both, GPS seems to lock 2-5 seconds while the evo lock GPS really quick, overall I'm happy with the NS4G and I can't wait to get Ice cream this fall/winter
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I also upgraded from the Evo and I am very happy with the Nexus S. The whole phone feels snappier and smoother. I'm getting 65fps on fps2d compared to 50 with the evo. The first few days when I got it it kept irritating me because it couldn't keep a wifi signal very well, but then I remembered that by default wifi turns off when you turn the screen off, so changed to never turn off and now it always stays connected. This is def. an upgrade from the Evo.
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ummm... do some reading on here.
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Ok....I for one, am getting sick of your negativity. Chill out. The OP is obviously new and excited about their device.
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i just got off the phone with Sprint.. I upgraded to the S from an EVO.. anyone on sprint with one? any issues? etc.. the camera on my evo SUCKED .. never was good..
anywho.. thanks!
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Congrats on your Nexy! Hopefully you don't have any problems with reception like a few people had around here. I for one, have no issues with signal and absolutely love the performance of this device.
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Yeah same resolution. Anyone else notice much better batterylife with 4g on?
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I get the best battery life with 4G on while steaming music and running 25 widgets while manually syncing every 10 seconds with GPS locating.
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I get the best battery life with 4G on while steaming music and running 25 widgets while manually syncing every 10 seconds with GPS locating.
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..I meant relative to the EVO 4G. I know, I wasnt very clear.
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..I meant relative to the EVO 4G. I know, I wasnt very clear.
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compared to the evo you should get a day when actually using the phone. Not the look my phone got a three days when getting three sms and five minute phone call.
The dev support was amazing on the evo. But no one (well for me) could stop my evo from draining battery draining like a sieve
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..I meant relative to the EVO 4G. I know, I wasnt very clear.
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I know what you meant. Just being a smartass.
Just wanted to know how good the signal strength is on the LG G 2 because I have the gs3 and it sucks so just want your guys feedback because I was thinking about buying one soon but wanted to know how good you guys are getting?
Thanks guys
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I can say based on my experience that the note 2 have better signal strength
I work under ground and the note 2 used to give me 2 bars of signal strength, while my g2 fails to get any signal most of the time -_-
I just hope that maybe a modem update would solve this problem
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Looks like you're on Verizon. LG >> Samsung for signal strength. My office where I work is in a poor reception spot, and my Galaxy Nexus was awful at holding a signal. G2 has been a world better.
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The g2 is about - 10 to -12 dBm better than my hd Maxx side by side, and the hd had good signal. It's also consistently better than my wife's s4
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The g2 is about - 10 to -12 dBm better than my hd Maxx side by side, and the hd had good signal. It's also consistently better than my wife's s4
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10-12dBm is a huge difference, are you sure you're comparing them in the same exact spot and both on 3G or 4G? Most I've seen between any device was just a few dBm.
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10-12dBm is a huge difference, are you sure you're comparing them in the same exact spot and both on 3G or 4G? Most I've seen between any device was just a few dBm.
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I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone.
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I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone.
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Interesting.. One last question, were both phones on 3G or 4G? If one was 3G and the other 4G than that would explain the huge discrepancy.
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Interesting.. One last question, were both phones on 3G or 4G? If one was 3G and the other 4G than that would explain the huge discrepancy.
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Both were on 4G, I know signal bars aren't accurate but, the hd had 1 bar and the g2 had 3
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I'm pretty sure there were in the same spot, because I was holding them. One was in my right hand and one was in my left. I guess you could say give or take a foot. I tested several times. The hd was always around -112 to 114dBm and the g2 was at -100 to 103. The g2 would also pick up 4G in a few spots that my hd never could. If you haven't previously seen that big of difference, you obviously haven't compared a gnex to basically any other phone
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Yeah, the LG's antennas were always better then Moto's garbage. It's common notion
I'm in NJ and coming from a S3, my signal is much better on the G2. Usually 5-7 dBm better
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rezound has slightly better signal than G2 indoors
I tested on my basement:
HTC rezound can somewhat maintain 3G, 4G, 1x signal
G2 can only periodically get 3G, 4G, 1x signal
dbm value is not important because: even if they are in the same spot one phone could be transmitting at 50% to conserve battery and the other phone could be transmitting at 100%. naturally the phone transmitting at 100% would show better dbm. so I think its better to measure the ability of the phone to maintain signal
On Verizon I had better signal on my s3. I hadn't seen a 3g icon anywhere near me for almost a year, but now with the g2 I see it every once in a while.
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The G2 is head and shoulders above my Galaxy Nexus VZW. I would get one bar at home with the Nexus and it would bounce between 3g and 4g and occasionally lose the signal completely while doing so. The G2 gets a steady 2 bars of 4g.
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On Verizon I had better signal on my. I hadn't seen a 3g icon anywhere near me for almost a year, but now with the g2 I see it every once in a while.
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"my" what?
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The G2 is head and shoulders above my Galaxy Nexus VZW. I would get one bar at home with the Nexus and it would bounce between 3g and 4g and occasionally lose the signal completely while doing so. The G2 gets a steady 2 bars of 4g.
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I think the galaxy nexus has probably the worst signal in verizon phones
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I think the galaxy nexus has probably the worst signal in verizon phones
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Sorry my s3, and all these people comparing to the gnex that's not really saying much. Pretty sure every phone released since the gnex came out has had better reception.
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The G2 has less signal strength indoors (steel building) at my work than the iPhone 5 that it replaced. It has been some what of a problem because about 43% of my battery goes to cell reception. I have had better luck by putting my phone in the one spot that gets just 1 bar of signal in my office, but even then it goes in an out from time to time.
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The G2 has less signal strength indoors (steel building) at my work than the iPhone 5 that it replaced. It has been some what of a problem because about 43% of my battery goes to cell reception. I have had better luck by putting my phone in the one spot that gets just 1 bar of signal in my office, but even then it goes in an out from time to time.
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thanks I've always wondered how good iphones 5 signal reception
I've been trying to decide on what phone to get to replace my GNex and the primary factor in my search has been signal strength. We have great 4G coverage here in Pittsburgh yet every Samsung phone sits on 3G almost all day every day. Samsung has the worst radios by far. I know a rep at the Verizon store near where I work so we took a bunch of phones out the other day and compared the signal strength from the city all the way out towards the airport. The iPhone 5 and LG G2 were neck and neck averaging about 4~5 dB better than it's closest competitor the HTC One. Following closely were the new Moto phones. X, MAXX and Ultra. We didn't take a mini with us. We took a Note II, S3, S4 and my GNex that all performed about 7~10 dB worse than the Motos. In the building where I work (steel building barely any reception) The iPhone 5 dropped 4G all together as well as the Moto phones. The Samsungs didn't have a data signal at all. The LG G2 was switching back and forth between 3G and 4G. The HTC One was able to retain a 4G signal but it was slow.
If I was buying one right now I'd probably get the G2. I'm still back and forth between the One and the G2 though.... I'm in my building a lot and the One seemed to get better reception through hard to penetrate walls so that was a major plus on it's side.
I've had GREAT reception. I get about twice the signal strength I had on verizon GNEX.
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I've been trying to decide on what phone to get to replace my GNex and the primary factor in my search has been signal strength. We have great 4G coverage here in Pittsburgh yet every Samsung phone sits on 3G almost all day every day. Samsung has the worst radios by far. I know a rep at the Verizon store near where I work so we took a bunch of phones out the other day and compared the signal strength from the city all the way out towards the airport. The iPhone 5 and LG G2 were neck and neck averaging about 4~5 dB better than it's closest competitor the HTC One. Following closely were the new Moto phones. X, MAXX and Ultra. We didn't take a mini with us. We took a Note II, S3, S4 and my GNex that all performed about 7~10 dB worse than the Motos. In the building where I work (steel building barely any reception) The iPhone 5 dropped 4G all together as well as the Moto phones. The Samsungs didn't have a data signal at all. The LG G2 was switching back and forth between 3G and 4G. The HTC One was able to retain a 4G signal but it was slow.
If I was buying one right now I'd probably get the G2. I'm still back and forth between the One and the G2 though.... I'm in my building a lot and the One seemed to get better reception through hard to penetrate walls so that was a major plus on it's side.
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that was a comprehensive list. you just need to add galaxy note 3
In addition to the list HTC rezound had slightly better reception than my G2(see my previous post)
Especially the Verizon version. M8 is about equal or slightly weaker than the S4. That metal body apparently needed a little more plastic strip areas.
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Especially the Verizon version. M8 is about equal or slightly weaker than the S4. That metal body apparently needed a little more plastic strip areas.
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Is this a question? or a statement? or what?
M8 has stronger signal than S4, HTC radios are MUCH better than Sammy's. As are Moto's.
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Is this a question? or a statement? or what?
M8 has stronger signal than S4, HTC radios are MUCH better than Sammy's. As are Moto's.
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Not always... The Evo Lte on Sprint had a terrible radio.
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yeah its not always like that.
As far the M8, it seems no better or 1 to 2 dBm points weaker than the S4. We also have a 5s and DNA to compare with. In order of reception:
DNA
5s
S4/M8
My family's comparison suggests the M8 is not a great device for radio reception on the Verizon network in the areas we live. The wifi also seems weaker on the M8. Too much metal?
The one phone we have not tested yet is the S5, so as per the topic, does it have better reception than previous Samsung models to the S4? I am not juggling anymore phones and my son
is an HTC fan. Loves the DNA and the M8.
I would like to know this as well before I make the jump
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I live in an area where I'm a tenth of a mile in any direction I can get good 4g signal, but at my house I can't even get a string signal on my roof, so I feel like I have good perspective on signal strength. I had 2 note 3's and one was better than the other but both pretty poor and would loose signal 75% of the time. The s4 and s4 mini have the best. The HTC one was in between those two extremes. So far with the s5 I feel like it is a bit better than the s4 and on our with the s4 mini.
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I live in an area where I'm a tenth of a mile in any direction I can get good 4g signal, but at my house I can't even get a string signal on my roof, so I feel like I have good perspective on signal strength. I had 2 note 3's and one was better than the other but both pretty poor and would loose signal 75% of the time. The s4 and s4 mini have the best. The HTC one was in between those two extremes. So far with the s5 I feel like it is a bit better than the s4 and on our with the s4 mini.
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That's impressive. I hope this is true for the San Diego area because I currently have a HTC rezound from over 2 years ago and looking to upgrade possibly to the gs5. The rezound has great reception in my opinion and I'm hoping if I do get the gs5 that it will be just as good if not better.
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