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Whats the best System/input/overall settings for these two emulators, to get nice smooth, non laggy gameplay? i find on fpse my tekken 3 lags a little every once and a while, and on n64oid..Zelda OOT lags a little everytime i roll lol...any suggestions of proper settings? i must have something setup wrong since i see vids on youtube with no lag gameplay, especially on Zelda OOT.. thanks guys really appreciate the help. Kes
For Tekken 3, and most psx games, you can pretty much use HLE, set frameskip to any option, frame limiter on, and make sure you DISABLE rumble. Tekken and many games will lag badly with rumble on. Use the default settings (reinstall fpse or clear defaults), then enable hle or dont' configure a bios. Then define your controls, and turn on only l1/l2 and r1/r2 as on screen buttons. Don't modify the configuration settings for the overlay, and don't modify anything else. SAve these as your defaults and tekken 3 should scream. From there, you can slowly tweak whatever else you want and see what you're enabling that's breaking your framerate. FYI, I keep reading from users that bios mode is faster than HLE, but that has not been my experience. Bios mode has enabled some games that didn't work with HLE alone, but the framerates are similar to PSX4droid, which in comparison to FPSE in HLE mode have been crap with the games I've tried.
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So after playing with the default config and trying my bios again, it appears those SAME settings I was referring to are the cause of abysmal bios emulation speeds. With bios enabled, most games run as well as or better than with the HLE settings. Furthermore, frameskip works properly, and makes tobal 2 completely playable at full speeds with sound and only periodic frame jumping. Tony Hawk 2 also renders correctly. Can't gripe at anyone but myself for not having enjoyed FPSE to its full extent all this time. If you have issues, I'd be happy to post my default config. I taylor specific games off of that, took a while to update most of my 30 isos to use bios mode, but it was completely worth it. Thanks for posting your question, and forcing me to reevaluate my settings
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For Tekken 3, and most psx games, you can pretty much use HLE, set frameskip to any option, frame limiter on, and make sure you DISABLE rumble. Tekken and many games will lag badly with rumble on. Use the default settings (reinstall fpse or clear defaults), then enable hle or dont' configure a bios. Then define your controls, and turn on only l1/l2 and r1/r2 as on screen buttons. Don't modify the configuration settings for the overlay, and don't modify anything else. SAve these as your defaults and tekken 3 should scream. From there, you can slowly tweak whatever else you want and see what you're enabling that's breaking your framerate. FYI, I keep reading from users that bios mode is faster than HLE, but that has not been my experience. Bios mode has enabled some games that didn't work with HLE alone, but the framerates are similar to PSX4droid, which in comparison to FPSE in HLE mode have been crap with the games I've tried.
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So after playing with the default config and trying my bios again, it appears those SAME settings I was referring to are the cause of abysmal bios emulation speeds. With bios enabled, most games run as well as or better than with the HLE settings. Furthermore, frameskip works properly, and makes tobal 2 completely playable at full speeds with sound and only periodic frame jumping. Tony Hawk 2 also renders correctly. Can't gripe at anyone but myself for not having enjoyed FPSE to its full extent all this time. If you have issues, I'd be happy to post my default config. I taylor specific games off of that, took a while to update most of my 30 isos to use bios mode, but it was completely worth it. Thanks for posting your question, and forcing me to reevaluate my settings
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Thanks a lot for your help man, really appreciate the prompt and detailed reply ya i found that it runs a little smoother in bios mode too
You know the save default config in FPSE...is that for each individual game?
I find some games work better on one setting, whilst others work better on another setting.
I know you can save individual configs, but just a bit confused as to what the procedure is to do so.
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You know the save default config in FPSE...is that for each individual game?
I find some games work better on one setting, whilst others work better on another setting.
I know you can save individual configs, but just a bit confused as to what the procedure is to do so.
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The config profiles are mightily confusing for someone new to them.
Took me a while to understand how they work too. It's not very well done tbh.
Easy once you understand though.
1) Without loading a game, change your settings then save them <--- this is now your default settings
2) When you load a game and change the settings, this now becomes your settings for that individual game.
3) Unless you save them as the default settings, which now become the default settings.
Not very user friendly, but they work nevertheless.
Cheers.
Been muddling my way through it.
Wish you could do that in N64oid!
Is there a way to get the sticks to work in FPse?
Trying to play Ape escape and it tells me I need a dual shock controller.
I go in and there doesn't seem to be a setting for them unless I am missing it.
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Where can I find N64droid?
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Is there a way to get the sticks to work in FPse?
Trying to play Ape escape and it tells me I need a dual shock controller.
I go in and there doesn't seem to be a setting for them unless I am missing it.
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Where can I find N64droid?
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The dev at FPSE said they are working on it so hopefully it will work soon.
N64oid is available at SlideME market.
Hello guys,?
After into the use of the tablet for about 1 week I found same pretty cool tweak. Before coming in to the topic , I'm really impressed in the device performance also the issues that others faces could be solved . First of all for those who are complaining about the lollipop about nvidia removing the power control option let me say this,its not removed just hidden??.So first step in getting max fps is to find the power control [Just do a google in how to find hidden power controlled] So after finding the power control menu move to apps in the above mentioned section in the power menu and select the required game or app tap it and make a custom setting there on your desired requirements .There you may run apps in very low resolution or in very high [Nearly 2k] depending on your requirement.
So,??
Here in power control you can set the processor clock to save power or max performance or optimum depending on your need .this will help you resolve the battery issues in lollipop .
My recommendation is to play games in lowest possible resolution in the battery saver mode. This provides you with good amount of power saving. Also don't get me wrong in asking you guys to play games in lowest setting thinking that our device is not capable,its just to save power ??
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Hello guys,
After into the use of the tablet for about 1 week I found same pretty cool tweak. Before coming in to the topic , I'm really impressed in the device performance also the issues that others faces could be solved . First of all for those who are complaining about the lollipop about nvidia removing the power control option let me say this,its not removed just hidden.So first step in getting max fps is to find the power control [Just do a google in how to find hidden power controlled] So after finding the power control menu move to apps in the above mentioned section in the power menu and select the required game or app tap it and make a custom setting there on your desired requirements .There you may run apps in very low resolution or in very high [Nearly 2k] depending on your requirement.
So,
Here in power control you can set the processor clock to save power or max performance or optimum depending on your need .this will help you resolve the battery issues in lollipop .
My recommendation is to play games in lowest possible resolution in the battery saver mode. This provides you with good amount of power saving. Also don't get me wrong in asking you guys to play games in lowest setting thinking that our device is not capable,its just to save power
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.... uhm. look at the link below. thats a thread that i already made a while ago (last year to be exact -.-), buddy. this is nothing new
MY thread is in the same section (which is the "General Section") as the one you just posted today -.-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nvi...tention-how-to-to-power-control-menu-t3164381
and sry if you might feel this would work, but it doesn't. many ppl already complained that the power control doesn't work in lollipop.
and about that resolution thing you mentioned. it kinda just lowers the display resolution, NOT the actual rendering resolution. so even if your game might feel snappier, its just a placebo effect afterall.
and pls use the search function next time before posting about something which already has a thread on this site (no offense)
I don't think so...
The power controll menu does work,Its is not changing the device resolution just the rendering resolution I'm saying this because just play a game in max resolution and in native one.you will find the max resolution one with some edge cutting problem... this is because of the high res texture in low display resolution. To really see the difference connect it to an fHd TV via an HDMI. Even if it is just lowering the device display still it would improve the frames by a good difference also my thread is not really about finding the power control but about how to use it....
I will be uploading visual proof of change in visual quality....
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The power controll menu does work,Its is not changing the device resolution just the rendering resolution I'm saying this because just play a game in max resolution and in native one.you will find the max resolution one with some edge cutting problem... this is because of the high res texture in low display resolution. To really see the difference connect it to an fHd TV via an HDMI. Even if it is just lowering the device display still it would improve the frames by a good difference also my thread is not really about finding the power control but about how to use it....
I will be uploading visual proof of change in visual quality....
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i wasn't talking about that the display resolution feature wouldn't work. i was talking about the whole power control menu itself with all its other functions. setting the cpu or the framerate did change absolutly nothing. if i change the framerate to 30 or even 25 for en example, the system would still output 60 fps (if the app/game is not too demanding in terms of performance). and about the cpu setting, guess what, this doesn't work either. if you change the clock to minimum for example, all apps/ games will still run normally like nothing was changed.
you can also check the cpu clock with any working cpu monitoring app and see that almost the whole power control menu does not work the way it should (or like it was on kitkat because that one really did work). only the display resolution thing is kind of working. but the rest of it isn't doing what its supposed to be.
arunbiju969 said:
The power controll menu does work,Its is not changing the device resolution just the rendering resolution I'm saying this because just play a game in max resolution and in native one.you will find the max resolution one with some edge cutting problem... this is because of the high res texture in low display resolution. To really see the difference connect it to an fHd TV via an HDMI. Even if it is just lowering the device display still it would improve the frames by a good difference also my thread is not really about finding the power control but about how to use it....
I will be uploading visual proof of change in visual quality....
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Game is MC4 you can clearly see the colour difference in red
The power control works if you know what to tweak in it. There are applications that throttle if all 4 cores are used. Facebook works more stable with 2 cores and 80% frequency. You will see more opportunities if you experiment. In my observation in general, lollipop update in this device was not well thought out so Nvidia leaves the power management with you. Yeah, very irresponsible of them.
If tweaked right, performance difference of apps is night and day, no kidding. Stop arguing and finally try it, don't reason based on what you have read. This goes without saying, do not contribute if you don't have an actual unit. Thanks.
Hi all,
Have been tinkering with this emu for a few years now, mostly on PC (which works amazingly well) zelda the windwaker, Mario kart double dash, smash brothers melee, to name but a few great titles all work perfectly on modest hardware
Anyway over the last year or so it's made its way to android, and although it's nowhere near perfect it's definitely coming along, I just wanted to start a thread in regards to it and what peoples experience with it has been..
The emulator runs ISO's from original games, for copyright reasons you should own the original so don't ask for or post places to get rom images here or the thread will be closed and that will be the end of that.
The aim of this thread is to get the most out of the emulator and to see what configurations work best with what games and if we can get anything close to 30fps, which in pc terms sounds horrible but on the gamecube it was definitely playable.. Also just bare in mind that this emulation is very demanding on any system so your battery is going to take a massive hit, also if throttling does kick in, you'll see a drop in performance.. With the right balance of settings and choice of game I believe we can get close to playable.
Has anyone tried the emu? Or have they had any experience with it on android? I know that with the shield it runs near perfect but that is simply due to the cpu /GPU being extremely powerful.
Heres a link to the emulator which is completely free as it's open source.
https://dolphin-emu.org/download
Again please don't link any rom files, any copyright violations will be frowned upon and the thread will be closed.
The emulator supports touch and controllers, multi player is possible and other than the frame rate not being so great with the game I've tried, the games themselves look great.
UPDATE! 04/01/17
Pre-requisites
Root Access
Phone running Android N (have tried this game on Marshmallow and it crashes on the first 3D scene)
A custom recovery capable of flashing files
A legitimate rom file of the game you want to play, for the purpose of this tutorial it's Zelda the windwaker for the gamecube
The ini files (available at the foot of this OP)
*Optional* A notepad editor for android should you want to edit the ini file yourselves.
Installation
To get the emulator to run Windwaker (only game i've fully been testing) at full speed, or extremely close to
Install the emulator from this link https://dolphin-emu.org/download open the emulator once to create the folders and files needed, then close it and clear recents.
So long as you own the original game and you have a copy of the it in a ROM / ISO format, have the ROM on your SD card or internal memory.
Attached is my ini config file for dolphin, download this and unzip it, then place this within: /storage/emulated/0/dolphin-emu/Config
Note* You will have to change your rom paths thereafter and once the change has been saved to the ini you will then see your games from then onwards, the ini contains my path and won't work with yours*
Clear recents and open up dolphin.
Once dolphin is open, check that your settings match what I have put on here, then once verified, click the folder icon on the right and then the plus button.
Find your ROM and open it, the initial boot should go to 50 - fps, Windwaker is a 30 fps game, the game once loaded and you're on onset island should be running at 25 - 30 frames per second.
Controls
From installing the emulator, the controls aren't set up, open any game and then pull down on the notification bar and a blue bar will appear with a menu (3 dots) click this then configure controls, move the buttons to represent the gamecube pad, if you have a BT pad then configure this prior to launching the game
Final notes
Bare in mind that this emulator is still in alpha stage and as such, certain things simply won't work, emulation takes a lot more grunt to get this to run anywhere near normal speed so i'm afraid you do have to take the rough with the smooth, new nightlies are released all the time with updated notes attached from the above download link, I'd advise uninstalling and then cleaning up folders from the phone and then importing the ini file over again for a clean install
If anyone finds any fixes, or compatible games they've tried or any tweaks they'd like to share, please do so, i'm bewildered that the gamecube has actually been emulated and to have it on your phone running close to perfect is nothing short of astounding.
Enjoy
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Settings from options within the emulator which I've found to be the best for me.
Zelda gets around 20-25 (dips at times to around 15 but no lower)
MarioKart Double Dash
This game was a 60fps game, on a normal race it's too slow, on time trials however it's not too bad, average frames are around 30-40 fps.
Turn these on, just got a 10fps boost on double dash, very close to perfect.
Zelda does not have the same boost, in fact it dropped to 15fps..
Very nice to see this I'm gonna give it a go.
Could we set our phones to switch force gpu rendering or something along those lines to get better fps.
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Very nice to see this I'm gonna give it a go.
Could we set our phones to switch force gpu rendering or something along those lines to get better fps.
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Sort of, open settings from your actual phone and turn on high performance, search within settings if you can't find it. Proper path is in settings, development, high performance...
I'm on the stock kernel but I'll be getting others today to see how they go. By all accounts android N works a lot better in terms of speed than MM.
Another thing which I've noticed is that if you're phone supports open gl es 3.0 then that makes a massive boost to cpu speed, seen a couple of videos showing zelda running at a near solid 30 fps, Afaik the lost of gl es 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 are announced yet our set of hardware doesn't support 3.0 unless it's backward compatible, it supports 3.2 or higher. I need to read more about it.. Not sure if it can be added etc, seems like driver support rather than a limitation of hardware.
Will keep looking.
Ok so cm 14 is not a good idea. Horrific frame rate, not even worth tweaking. Going back to venom
Just an FYI, not related to topic.
DO NOT FLASH A CM ROM IF YOU WANT TO REMAIN UN-ENCRYPTED, IT ENCRYPTS ON BOOT. Forcing you to then back up, format and then restore and then install your rom again.
If you're encrypted already then fair enough.
Nothing in the cm thread to tell you this it's just "Known"
Anyway, once I've got this up and running again I'll be going through several versions of dolphin and trying to see what yields the best results for Zelda and MarioKart.
Long day ahead of me
Also clean slate if you're on firmware but on N, flashing the same version as your firmware will not boot..awesome.
Guess I need to full update everything.
Reverted back to MM, none of the games run.
N is definitely majorly more optimizer than MM for this emulator.. Getting playable framerates now on zelda and MKDD.. Happy days.. A few iterations of this emu and it'll be running very well hopefully.
Version I'm getting the best frames with above settings is 5.0-1480
Been really tinkering with this emu.
Have tried every single combination of settings and in its current state with the newest version (v5.16XX)
Max I can get from onset Island (windwaker) is 15fps which will then fluctuate to 25 and will peak at the max of 30 fps but this is when it's not drawing the whole island, within buildings the fps maxes out immediately but having played this game all the way through I'm aware that more than half of the game is outdoors so 15-25 fps would not be acceptable.
Running MK double dash again, maxes out in certain areas, certainly not in grand prix races, just too much going on..
Need to find the cfg file and lower the resolution, perhaps disable sound, this will massively increase speed, it'll mean sub par resolution and no audio but it'll help with speed.
Cfg is here /sdcard/dolphin-emu/Config/Dolphin.ini
Can be edited with a note pad. If I manage to squeeze anything more out of it I'll upload it here.
After lowering the resolution all the way down to 160x200 I've managed to get a stable 20fps in most places on onset Island, occasionally dropping down to 17fps but quickly going back up.
Going to get another kernel to see if overclocking will give me a little more grunt. Can't find the audio so can't disable it and may not even stop it from emulating anyway, so would be pointless.
Grabbed elemental with an OS lets see what this bad boy can do. Not expecting any improvement on battery life but I'd love a flat 30 fps on the windwaker. Here goes.
Ok so Elemental X has been extremely helpful, I've managed to get a solid 25fps from the start of onset island, it's running near perfect.
Grabbed ElementalX and installed their CPU/GPU manager from the playstore.
On installation of the kernel I went with the overclocked settings on both little and big cores and the GPU, hasn't really hurt the battery in any way so i'm happy with that for daily use.
On the time I want to run windwaker do the following:
Open settings in elementalX
Change governor to elementalx and cycle to update open governor settings and turn them to activate on boot
Go to CPU options and make sure 1728 on little is set for max, 2265 is set for big, all cores on.
Do the same with GPU options and turn GPU boost to high.
Once done, click on the powerbar up the top of elemental and turn on performance mode
Kill all open apps then in the phones menu, open: settings / development options / High Performance Mode and turn it on.
Also make sure dolphin is not being optimised by checking the option within Apps / dolphin / Battery / Battery optimization / Off
Open the emulator (make sure nothing else is open) and run the game, if it fails, press back and re-run, frame rates should be massively improved.
Bare in mind that this will decimate your battery, and i'm not sure when but throttling will more than likely kick in at some point too.
I'll keep tweaking but this is the best i've seen so far by miles.
Throttled after about 25 minutes then rolled back down to 15-20 fps. Need to lower the oc so it lasts longer. If I can get an hour then that'd be perfect.
Ok so the GPU, high performance modes, not needed, simply install elemental (i've gone with the OC'd version, 1.7Ghz) and turn on high performance mode, this allows perfect gameplay in the vast majority of places on the windwaker.
Only problem is the throttling, so i'll try the lower clock speeds of 1.5Ghz and see how that pans out.
OK so played through for around 45 mins with GPU boost on high and high performance on ex kernel manager.. When I got to a large outdoor area the game slowed to about 17 fps. Christ, it's never going to be perfect on this device.
Do you have tried emulating Smash Bros. Melee? If it does I'm with you on the testing train :highfive:
Hello there.
Is it normal that game "Smurfs epic run" on Nougat framerate dosent show full playback. It sort of skipps a little when running. I tested the game under different phone on Lolipop on and it plays fine.
Is it optimization on s8 problem? Its not like game needs powerfull phone wich S8 is anyway.
I tried lower resolution and game mode even game tuner and didnt helped. U guys experienced same thing? Maybe its not opimized yet for s8 aspect ratio or something. Anything else i can set up?
Everything else plays perfectly fine on the phone. Very satisfied otherwise.
Can anyone confirm that this is "game" issue?
this sort of behaviour is almost always present on a newly released phone
it's often a combination of the game itself, and the firmware of the phone itself that both need optimising some more to make things play along nicely.
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this sort of behaviour is almost always present on a newly released phone
it's often a combination of the game itself, and the firmware of the phone itself that both need optimising some more to make things play along nicely.
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I think the same. Actually i tried too limit framerate on 30fps inside app Game tuner from Samsung, and it was smooth, just that number of frames per second is kinda annoying. Just realized that tuner" has thoes aditional setting where u can customize framerate and everything else lol. Im gonna play with it later tonight when i get back home from work. I will prolly find the way too bypasss this skipping with 40 - 50 frames or something. Just downloaded Tuner app today, so i have too learn all posibilities inside its settings.
Can anyone write here procedure how too delete Cloud Save over Facebook login.
I did delete cloud save" under options, - but this deleted the current save only, inside the device. I wanna start game from beggining. But after this, game only offers me too replace "cloud save" with my current save, since Cloud save is my old game wich is more advanced.
Ok, i find out the save thing". What is strange, last night i find the game perfectly smooth framerate full 60. then today, again skips a little. I tried game tuner, but all i can do mostly is downgrade framerate, wich i dont want to. I guess after two updates already from game developer, they still didnt optimized the game 100% for samsung s8. Anyone else has any tip too give me, too try out something else in setting?
I did tried battery saver off, gaming mode on, max performance on, its like it maybe works 60 full frames, but some app is blocking the game too perform smooth framerate withtout skipping.
Can someone please test the game and help resolve this if its an issue? Thanks
i guess no one plays this lol
The game in question is Cytus II. Whenever more than 4 notes appear on screen, the performance tanks. Even with game battery saver downscaling the resolution to 720p, it still does this. Does anyone else experience a similar issue while playing games?
Cytus II isn't even a graphics-heavy game, so it's starting to make me question this phone and its performance.
If all graphic heavy games are running smooth it's not problem with phone itself. Try to force 2d acceleration via GPU in developer settings...
fegitoli said:
The game in question is Cytus II. Whenever more than 4 notes appear on screen, the performance tanks. Even with game battery saver downscaling the resolution to 720p, it still does this. Does anyone else experience a similar issue while playing games?
Cytus II isn't even a graphics-heavy game, so it's starting to make me question this phone and its performance.
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I noticed there was some LG Game tool or something running, after I tapped on it, I selected the option to turn it off (it has performance settings, which were set to balanced) and games seem to run better, never played Cytus, but when I played PUBG is was a significant improvement.
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I noticed there was some LG Game tool or something running, after I tapped on it, I selected the option to turn it off (it has performance settings, which were set to balanced) and games seem to run better, never played Cytus, but when I played PUBG is was a significant improvement.
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Thank you! It's not a night and day difference, but the game definitely runs a bit smoother after disabling that option. It's not placebo either; I just played the game without any lagspikes whatsoever.
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I noticed there was some LG Game tool or something running, after I tapped on it, I selected the option to turn it off (it has performance settings, which were set to balanced) and games seem to run better, never played Cytus, but when I played PUBG is was a significant improvement.
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What the LG game tool?I do not understand...Forgive me, I can not translate something correctly (If about this menu, then I do not see this.
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What the LG game tool?I do not understand...Forgive me, I can not translate something correctly (If about this menu, then I do not see this.
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I only speak English sorry, but if you open the settings app, under 'general' there is a gaming button.
It is labeled 'game tools' in English, but its the top toggle, hope this helps
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I noticed there was some LG Game tool or something running, after I tapped on it, I selected the option to turn it off (it has performance settings, which were set to balanced) and games seem to run better, never played Cytus, but when I played PUBG is was a significant improvement.
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under game graphics what is the resolution and frame rate set to?