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i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
viper3ez said:
i have searched but not knowing exactly what to search for is no all that helpful.
i am familiar with ubuntu(been using that on laptops since 8.04) and i can tinker with the terminal (by followng someone else's instructions)
but as far as android, 100% new.
i'm considering rooting my device.
i have learned by reading about what rooting is and the uses.
what i'm looking for is guide or links to more information/read.
what application do i need to get to root my device?
how do i start? what do i do?
i just need a to be pointed in the right direction so i can learn more.
thanks
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First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
Christopher3712 said:
First, you want to post questions in the Q&A section. Second, look here.
A simple search will save you from getting flamed in these forums. The thread I linked was listed at the very top of the development section.
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th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
viper3ez said:
th many other threads
thank you.
i have read that along with many other threads.
problem is, being new, i am yet to understand what the program "visionary" is or where to get the right version
other terms like like radio=off are new to me.
i'm not slow but some of these guides are written with an audience already familiar with rooting in mind.
for someone using their first android phone and trying to root it, a little help is needed so i dont turn my new phone that cost me 2 years of wireless liberty in a paperwheight
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
See, I have read about VISIONary and know what it does. Problem is I cant find it in the market place. Rrquested a download link and used QR, neither worked. I dont care about anyone being mean over the net as far as I get the help I need like you gave. I'm new to android and not stupid so I think I can handle rooting a phone.
I intend to keep reading to learn bit I still ne er d help with things like absence of visionary from the marketplace.
Btw is there an alternative for VISION ary?
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Well, try this thread, and if you don't understand that, you probably should not mess with your phone. I'm totally not being mean here. But if you don't understand the previous helper's link or the one I'm sending you, you could easily brick your phone and be totally screwed. The guides posted that we linked to are pretty straightforward.
But, to answer one of your questions, VISIONary is an Android app listed in the Android Market that some of the XDA Developer GENIUSES wrote. It's basically the first step in permanently rooting your phone. It can run a discovered exploit in this group of devices and gain 'temporary root'. Which basically means that if you rebooted your phone after gaining temp root, the root would we removed from memory. But, by gaining temp root, you can run superuser level commands which will provide the full root (which doesn't disappear after reboots). This used to have to be entered manually, but again, the geniuses who wrote VISIONary folded this functionality into the app.
BTW, u asked about S=OFF. In the Hboot section of your phone (when you hold the VOLUME DOWN button and POWER button together from a shut off phone), it displays certain firmware information about your phone. 'S' refers to Security (I think), and the '=OFF', is, well, off. So it's supposed to mean the Security's turned off on your phone.
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Well I care about the meanness, because I need to ask questions from time to time, and I DO search and read threads, so I know how it feels when someone gets uppity about your question.
Anyway, I think I was wrong about it being in the Market. It is posted as a thread in this sub-forum, or as link somewhere, but anyway, you have to download it from here. Best of luck!
Oh, and I'm not sure about alternatives to VISIONary, but I think the only alternative to it would be the original HTC G2 exploit, and whatever command-line stuff that entails. Dunno if that stuff was even posted online; it probably exists with the developer(s) who originally found the exploit.
Please post questions in the Q&A section.
Hi, my phone now is working and all ( the is it bricked post) Thanks guys
Here is the new problem...I would like to go to 2.2.1 ( the passimg.zip is 2.2) is there a way to update without unlocking bootloader.
I tried Androot and superoneclick....Androot gives me the Fugu message and SuperOneClick says its Rooted...but when I go to rom manager or other apps that need superuser...
I get this message : An error occured while attemting to run privileged commands!
So basically Root isn't working.
Also, when trying to install Cyan cm6...Rom manager reboots...but I get the Triangle with the exclamation point with the green man next to it...
Is it still possible to have my cake and eat it? ( locked phone, with root access so I can install modded roms)
Again...can someone help me with this
Thanks!
You didn't have to make a duplicate post. I already answered one of your questions in the other thread.
Dont make another post next time...
I rooted FRG83D with superoneclick root, But if its not working for ya you will have to unlock the bootloader via fastboot. Then push a custom recovery. With the recovery you can install the su binaries.
Manual root:
http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/...mple-sdk-setup-manual-root-guide-windows.html
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Ok i'll only answer here now for this question:
I don't want to loose my warranty. Hence the softroot way.
I thought of something dunno if its possible:
is there a stock FRG83 image like the FRG33 I just installed....maybe 2.2.1 will be compatible with androot or superoneclick
Thanks
You need to do a few things before you go any further. There are key steps you are leaving out that are just a recipe for disaster. I'll detail them below, in the specific order you should follow them. There shall be no deviation from this list.
1 - Put your phone down. Seriously, stop messing with it. Just quit.
2 - Read the Wiki that you've been linked to, in both threads, several times.
2a - Now that you've read the Wiki, really read the Wiki. Yeah, you skimmed it the first time, I know you did.
2b - Now go read it again. I'm sure you'll notice something new this time.
2c - Now go read the links in the Wiki. Explore those threads.
2d - Those threads that the Wiki links to? They have links in them. Go read those.
3 - Rinse and repeat all steps from 2a to 2d for, oh, about 4 days. During this time you are allowed:
To post general chit chat on the forum. No technical stuff, no help threads, no questions. Just read. If you have questions, you need to read some more.
No more than 3 app installs per day, from the market. Thou shalt not download and install any APKs from any source that is not the Android Market.
To tweak settings on your phone, provided those settings are all done via the touchscreen on your phone. You shall forget the acronym "ADB".
Once you've done that, you'll root your phone in no time, and you won't be worried that you've bricked it. Then, and only then, can you start asking questions.
Why? Because all of your questions right now are answered. You're jumping the gun, and it's obvious you haven't done much research at all. Seriously, go read.
I hate to be mean, but if you want to understand stuff, you need to try and understand it on your own first. You're here looking for solutions (that are already spelled out) to problems that you created (because you didn't read anything). Quit looking for the easy way out. If you want to enjoy your phone and the features of what you're trying to accomplish...put some work in yourself, and stop expecting everyone else to fix everything and spell it out. People here are more than happy to help, but you gotta start helping yourself.
@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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@Soberguy: Thumbs up to you. Couldn't have said it any better.
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Thanks, mate. Didn't mean to quote the guy above me, just noticed I did that. Fixed it.
I'm amazed at the patience some folks have. Maybe it was my rough 3 day weekend that's left me a bit short... Appreciate the thanks, all the same.
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll read...it just that I tried the cm7 mod ( i know its experimental) and the phone
would'nt boot.
With the help of the great people on the board, I got my phone working again but on FRG33 (2.2)
My last question was if it was possible ( or someone knows of because Ive checked the net) to root without unlocking ( androot and superoneclick that i know of) if I have FRG33 ( Because Ive been getting permission errors)
Finally, I wanted to know if a FRG83 stock image was available so that I could recover to it without unlocking bootloader. (or any other stock that lets me root without unlock)
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
pooky2010 said:
Ok, I do go a bit fast.
I'll unlock the phone as a last option...I'm sorry...And if anyone is pissed at my posts ...well sorry I just taught some of you experts could help.
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See? Looking for the easy way out again.
It's not about anyone being pissed or short on patience. Look at how frustrated you are with the situation. You're frustrated. Why? Cause you did it wrong. Why? Cause you didn't read enough first. Even after several suggestions, you still want it done, with help, right now, or you'll sulk about someone pissed and how no one held your hand through it.
Is it possible to do what you want? Absolutely! Pretty easy, too. But if you read and help yourself, you'll better understand how to update in the future, as well as how to root the future update. Or, you'll learn how to root what you have, and flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (yes, those are here as well).
So call me an ass, cool. You did in your mind, that's fine. But really, I'm trying to let you know what will help you the most, and that's having a better understanding of how to prevent a boot loop in the future, or at least how to fix it if it happens. Best of luck, man.
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Here's the deal.
I did a one click root without unlocking the bootloader. Then I installed rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery. Then I did a backup ( both done in rom manager) then I went back into rom manager and installed cyanogenmod 7 and my nexus is now haxored gingerbread. Make sure you do a full wipe before flashing new roms and it'll always work.
I didn't update my radio, my hboot or anything like that. And it all just works and is dead simple. I would suggest trying z4root or universal androot and then downloading rom manager from the market.
How you managed to **** up something so simple is pretty funny dude.
I'm using an at&t band n1 with an smiled. Not the one with super LCD. I heard a rumor that the super LCD n1s have problems with certain mods. You might want to figure out what type of screen you have too.
The cyanogenmod wiki at cyanogenmod.com might help you too.
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OP, you have to learn the hard way. Stop using "newbie" as an excuse.
I was also a "newbie" when I first got my Nexus One in February. Everything about android was new and alien to me. It actually took me a couple of months of lurking in xda and reading up on tutorials before I took the plunge to rooting my phone. And I did not bother anyone on that. I made sure I understood the steps and triple checked every move I made in following instructions even though I did not understand them.
I also was worried about warranty and actually did the manual way of rooting my phone without unlocking the bootloader using some method that involved cutting a piece of plastic from my battery. That was nerve wrecking and no where as simple as the superoneclick thingy you have now. Yet I survived and I did it on my own.
I must admit that you have to be a little bit confident in using computers and have some basic knowledge of typing commands in cmd. But everyone has to start from somewhere.
Seriously if it's too much trouble or too complicated, maybe staying stock or going Iphone is a more comfortable alternative.
I'm actually pretty good with computers...
Also, I have bricked 4 phones (the provider took them back) fooling around...
I could brought this one back ( they didnt check). But I want to learn...I'm pretty impulsif...Anyway so far
With FRG33 z4root works (read thanks)
Now I trying to flash clockwork...( when I download cyan 6 +google apps) it reboots but I get the triangle thingy...I click power volume up ( read that thanks) I get a blue menu...I kinda scared to click an option so I rebooted...I'm trying to use rom manager for updates because its really simple ...anyway
Thats it for tonight All of you guys are nice dudes and I'll learn and will try to help im my own way...I know I'm a newbie that likes short cuts (hell I read all day at my day job...lol) This is fun ( playing with male toys)
Thanks guys!
So am posting this for a friend who is attempting to root his MyTouch4G. I'm on a DX and it has been a cake-walk, wondering if there is not an easier method for him?
I am reading through all these threads, just want to make sure we're not missing the obvious. Any and all help appreciated.
Wrong thread brother
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Yeah I guess this could've gone in the "General". Sorry, am reading as much as I can and as quickly as I can, I guess I'm just surprised there hasn't been any rooting methods that are somewhat automated or streamlined.
DNak206 said:
So am posting this for a friend who is attempting to root his MyTouch4G. I'm on a DX and it has been a cake-walk, wondering if there is not an easier method for him?
I am reading through all these threads, just want to make sure we're not missing the obvious. Any and all help appreciated.
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I used the Gfree/Visionary method and it took like 10 minutes. It is pretty easy if you follow the instructions.
Thread moved to Q&A.
DNak206 said:
So am posting this for a friend who is attempting to root his MyTouch4G. I'm on a DX and it has been a cake-walk, wondering if there is not an easier method for him?
I am reading through all these threads, just want to make sure we're not missing the obvious. Any and all help appreciated.
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One click root teaches you nothing. If you can't bother learning how to root it the way many of us have before you, then you learn nothing. JMHO
CBConsultation said:
One click root teaches you nothing. If you can't bother learning how to root it the way many of us have before you, then you learn nothing. JMHO
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I can certainly respect that, but this wasn't about "learning", it was about the simplest/easiest way to root. Again, asking for a friend but thanks for the input.
Use gfree to S-OFF, flash eng hboot, then Visionary to get "root" in the OS. As simple as you are going to see at this stage of the game.
DNak206 said:
So am posting this for a friend who is attempting to root his MyTouch4G. I'm on a DX and it has been a cake-walk, wondering if there is not an easier method for him?
I am reading through all these threads, just want to make sure we're not missing the obvious. Any and all help appreciated.
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Honestly, not sure how much easier you want it. The gfree s-off method is pretty straight forward. In my opinion if you can't follow those instructions you're probably better off not rooting at all. Rooting isn't a very difficult process but having even a little bit of knowledge about what you're doing will help to ensure you maintain a working phone. If you proceed without any understanding you are just setting yourself up for frustration and disappointment.
I just put one together, but I have no way to test it. Once I can find some willing testers, or unroot my phone and test it, You'lll have the absolute simplest way to root your phone.
I might be willing to test it...
chinksmiley said:
I might be willing to test it...
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Right now, I need to find out if the stock rom has root rights in adb shell by default after temp rooting. Once I know the answer to that, i'll let you know.
Cool, thanks.
Do you have adb working? It one click but you need adb setup and all the drivers installed. if so, it may be ready.
No unfortunately, I don't... I'll look into it according to that "everything" link and try to get it set up now.
Cool. Let me know when you're ready.
Okie doke, I downloaded and installed ADB and through the command prompt ADB recognizes my device...is that what I needed?
Yeah. Check your pm.
Is it really that hard to install visionary & terminal emulator, unzip a folder, do some commands and a step or two for root....
Jeffmeister said:
Is it really that hard to install visionary & terminal emulator, unzip a folder, do some commands and a step or two for root....
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No, but it is when you try and script it all together. lol. I think it should work, we'll know after he finishes testing.
ok a little backround i switched from a palm pre 4 months ago so i got myself pretty comfortable with the web os and i got the pre the first day it came out so i actually had to root it this was before all the one touch stuff. but there was always the webos dr to help me out if i screwed up. as far as my shift goes unfortunatly ive updated it so i know im gonna have to wait to root it. But can someone point me in the direction of where i can find info on the process. i am by no means a tech guy but i follow directions well. Ive been reading on adb and sdk and i dont quite understand everything i am reading. is there some things i should put on my pc. any advise or help is appreciated thanks
On tapatalk so to lazy to find links but:
One of the stickies on the dev forum is what exactly you're looking for.
Edit: the stuff below does not work according to another thread
Also someone smarter needs to verify this but I believe you can ruu back to an older version which would enable you to root.
Find the one zip unroot thread, also in the dev section. I believe the op has multiple versions now. Find the oldest version, restore your phone to that version and root using the guide mentioned above.
again, not 100% on that so be careful
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Check the dev forum, you also don't need adb or the sdk to root the phone its just easier to copy and past the commands. As soon as root came out for this phone I put the files in the root of my sdcard and used connectbot to run the commands.
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Phandroid has a pretty simple root guide in the Shift forums if you are still running Froyo (2.2). They basically tell you what to do step by step.
"Rooting" the pre was easy. If you tried to but 2.1 on the Sprint Pre, you had to perform some command line functions. Android tends to play nicer with windows in regard to that area.
They don't have the root process for the update yet. So unfortunately, there's nothing to look for.
Evo SHIFT
Hi Guys,ive had my A500 for a couple of weeks now and i love it -------- im a Tablet/Computer DUMMY, can you PLEASE tell me what is "ROOTING" ?
I ask as ive read a lot about it on here and wonder if i should do it.
I will give you a different view then some I would imagine. My answer is do not bother with "Rooting".
In short, it gives you access to the files you would not normally see or need on a normal usage basis.
I would suggest you continue to use the A500 as is with out rooting it until you either find the device simply does not function as you want, or you continue to read the threads and decide you wish to try it out.
Having said that and is found in another thread simply rooting is not dangerous. But, I would say if you are new to computers/tablets that little value would be added to your experience so simply enjoy your A500.
Thankyou for your reply
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
Rooting grants you access to system files you would not normally have access to.
If you don't know what it is, or don't know what the risks are, I wouldn't recommend doing it ... But I can't stop you from rooting
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
rooting
This gives you access to operation system files. Rooting your device is a must to get access to advance setting and change the way your tablet functions. First some reasons to not root
1.you avoid your warranty
2.you make your system easily available for mistakes to cause it to no longer being usable.
reasons average users root
1.can install advance control apps
2.can do complete backups thou not really need if you are not root access
3.hacks like the Netflix fix.adding ad-hoc support for tethering to phone
DO NOT ROOT UNTIL YOU DONT HAVE TO ASK THERR SIMPLE QUESTIONS
With that said all the answers are here in this forum.thanks to all the wonderful developers and advanced users.
Good luck. Empower yourself for a better android experience.
The blonde geeky chic
Thanks Guys and Gals----------think i wont bother at the moment,i will just spend more time learning about my Tablet!
cyberma007 said:
install a file manger from market
install the apk from the list in this link
if you are on 3.1 install version 1.3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138228
once you downloade the file click and install the apk from you file manager
install acer recover installer from market
open the app and click install recovery rom 1.3 thor something
reboot to recovery and install what ever rom you like
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What are you talking about? You should read the question & previous comments before you go & post up a how-to..
But if he want to do it, this would help
I am sure sooner or latter he will!
I don't want to be mean or anything, but your "tutorial" is kind of hard to understand ... And there already are thousands of tutorials on how to root.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S running a custom rom made of Rainbows, Unicorn Hair, and Pixie Dust.
Oh dear im sorry if ive upset people it was not my intention---------------
BUT thankyou for the "HOW TO " Im a newbie as i said and needing as much help as i can get with my A500 and yes im sure as i learn more i will want to "Root"
the merits of the root
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
leiko49 said:
For me, the root brought netflix, not sure if there is a way to get it yet without root. Yep, use my tab with netflix while i run my 5 miles in the gym (ok i walk most of the way, enough to see an entire movie, or email or whatnot. Worth the price of the tab right there.
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Not the only thing that a root can do
Sent from my magical HTC Wildfire S.
While I am not a dev, I have spent a great many years around *nix systems. Rooting, in itself, is not difficult nor dangerous. The danger is in the new abilities to modify system parameters which should be left alone by those without sufficient knowledge. Acer has provided a utility to allow for system restore and some backup abilities which should be sufficient for most new users. With android, as with any OS, knowledge is power. I usually suggest new users gain knowledge about the system before tampering with root.
I am new to the acer community but some of you may have seen me on the nook color or huawei s7 forums and I am starting development work on the webos forums. As I said before, I am not a dev (yet) but I believe everyone should understand a concept before blindly rushing into the fray.
I will get off my soapbox now and go play. Enjoy your new acer...
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