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EXTREMELY weak vibrations, go to your settings->sound->vibration intesity and feel it on max. Then press any of the 4 buttons on the bottom, you should be able to tell the difference. Anyone know a fix to it?
Same issue here. KA6 build.
ikevinnyii said:
EXTREMELY weak vibrations, go to your settings->sound->vibration intesity and feel it on max. Then press any of the 4 buttons on the bottom, you should be able to tell the difference. Anyone know a fix to it?
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i wouldnt say that the froyo update release today thru kies is official or anything as it was an involuntary update and most likely not final. i'm pretty sure TMO CMO decided it was a good move to provide something to help calm furious users.
but anyways to fix this, it involves a simple code value change to those who actually know how to code.
is there currently a rom that doesnt have this problem?? last roms i flashed had this problem +others and i went back to stock
well lets get someone in here who knows the code! i've had the issue since i started flashing custom roms.
Come on baby! Lets get some heavy vibrations up in this here cell phone!
brian_v3ntura said:
but anyways to fix this, it involves a simple code value change to those who actually know how to code.
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The haptic feedback is weak in every 2.2 ROM I've used (and on JL1, it was totally nonfunctional).
It was present in Eclair ROMs, but still very weak compared to what it feels like in the Settings menu (and extremely weak compared to other phones). Sometimes I miss calls or texts because the weak vibration.
Typing is a little harder with such weak haptic feedback, too...
synaesthetic said:
The haptic feedback is weak in every 2.2 ROM I've used (and on JL1, it was totally nonfunctional).
It was present in Eclair ROMs, but still very weak compared to what it feels like in the Settings menu (and extremely weak compared to other phones). Sometimes I miss calls or texts because the weak vibration.
Typing is a little harder with such weak haptic feedback, too...
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this is true.
Not too big of an issue for me, I don't even keep it on max level.
Yes it is weaker
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Not too big of an issue for me, I don't even keep it on max level.
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Same,having it on at max just eats more battery.
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Anyone found a fix yet? I always have a charger within reach so I don't mind the battery hit.
I've noticed that mine makes a strange noise noise when it vibrates as well. Anyone else experience that?
yeah kinda like an old super mario sound lol
Thats what happens when the phone is made of plastuc.
Yes, i'm serious.
That doesnt happen on e.g. A blackberry oe hd3, but it happens a lot on phones with plastic casings...
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It's probably weaker to conserve battery but with it being like this for all 2.2 roms, it was probably intentional. Look in the i9000 forum for complaints and I'm sure you will find many suggesting that it is normal.
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It's probably weaker to conserve battery but with it being like this for all 2.2 roms, it was probably intentional. Look in the i9000 forum for complaints and I'm sure you will find many suggesting that it is normal.
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That's right .... having it on through out the system, even on the keyboard will drain your battery .... its no cause for concern ...
and for some people that's an obvious and acceptable drawback. anyone have a fix?
dan0zone said:
That's right .... having it on through out the system, even on the keyboard will drain your battery .... its no cause for concern ...
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and for some people that's an obvious and acceptable drawback. anyone have a fix?
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But its there, its not like they took out, you're the same ones that were crying about the battery life, they found some areas to improve on ...like the strength of the vibration amongst others.... what is the issue ....
I don't think the OP was concerned about his battery life, I think he was concerned about weak haptics.
I updated and have the same problem as him and and a a few other people. I generally keep my haptics set to a low level because I consider them overpowering, but since this new update I can barely feel them. Furthermore, once I go into 'settings > sound > vibration intensity' to make them more powerful I get a strange squeaking noise every time my phone vibrates and the vibrations get no stronger.
I highly doubt this happens because of the plastic construction, unless 2.1 changes what the phone is made out of.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't think the OP was concerned about his battery life, I think he was concerned about weak haptics.
I updated and have the same problem as him and ana a few other people. I generally keep my haptics set to a low level because I consider them overpowering, but since this new update I can barely feel them. Furthermore, once I go into 'settings > sound > vibration intensity' to make them more powerful I get a strange squeaking noise every time my phone vibrates and the vibrations get no stronger.
I highly doubt this happens because of the plastic construction, unless 2.1 changes what the phone is made out of.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I think I read what the post said. I think I know what I said. I said it was probably intentional like you know.. the change from a blue data network icon to a gray one. Not being able to feel it is an exaggeration.
I've been having this issue with my epic for the past month or so. If something (other than a phone call) is playing audio (game, music) through the speaker or the earbuds I hear a crackling noise when I touch the screen and only when I touch the screen. It's very easily reproduced too. For example, I'll have pandora playing through the speaker and it'll play fine until I touch the screen to change the song or do something else. If I keep my finger on the screen it'll continue making the crackling noise until I lift it off. Doesn't happen if I touch the screen while it's off. The same thing has happened on every rom I tried including odin to stock eb13 and ec05. Since I've had the phone for less than a year, can I take it to a sprint store and get a replacement? Or does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
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This may not make the most sense, but it sounds like you've got some exposed wires or something on the inside, my guess would be that the capacitive touch screen is causing some feed back when the field is broken and you touch it. May be a bad capacitor, or just some crossed/exposed wire, but we have had a similar issue with a wall touchpad in one of our class rooms. they control a Audio visual box and once it was damaged would produce a crackling over the speaker system when you would use the touch pad to change source or adjust volume and the AV box was turned on. The unit had to be replaced, I'd be willing to bet the same would go for the phone as replacement parts wouldn't be the easiest to come by.
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This may not make the most sense, but it sounds like you've got some exposed wires or something on the inside, my guess would be that the capacitive touch screen is causing some feed back when the field is broken and you touch it. May be a bad capacitor, or just some crossed/exposed wire, but we have had a similar issue with a wall touchpad in one of our class rooms. they control a Audio visual box and once it was damaged would produce a crackling over the speaker system when you would use the touch pad to change source or adjust volume and the AV box was turned on. The unit had to be replaced, I'd be willing to bet the same would go for the phone as replacement parts wouldn't be the easiest to come by.
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Do you think I should call Sprint first or just go into a store?
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Do you think I should call Sprint first or just go into a store?
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Go into the store so they can see the problem personally. They will most likely order you a refurb.
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Do you think I should call Sprint first or just go into a store?
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Go to a store, Sprint will tell you that over the phone. haha
This is a well known issue around here. Hold up ill dig up a post about it. I am happy to say that as of Bonsai 4.1.1 this issue no longer exists.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026971
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I've been having this issue with my epic for the past month or so. If something (other than a phone call) is playing audio (game, music) through the speaker or the earbuds I hear a crackling noise when I touch the screen and only when I touch the screen. It's very easily reproduced too. For example, I'll have pandora playing through the speaker and it'll play fine until I touch the screen to change the song or do something else. If I keep my finger on the screen it'll continue making the crackling noise until I lift it off. Doesn't happen if I touch the screen while it's off. The same thing has happened on every rom I tried including odin to stock eb13 and ec05. Since I've had the phone for less than a year, can I take it to a sprint store and get a replacement? Or does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
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This is a well known issue around here. Hold up ill dig up a post about it. I am happy to say that as of Bonsai 4.1.1 this issue no longer exists.
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Must be various on a per phone basis then, because I've flashed EVERY single ROM to date and I've never experienced that.
p3dr0maz said:
This is a well known issue around here. Hold up ill dig up a post about it. I am happy to say that as of Bonsai 4.1.1 this issue no longer exists.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026971
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It doesn't sound like a software issue, therefor a rom won't fix the issue. If he goes back to stock, and the issue persists its hardware. Sounds like a loose wire, but I can't be sure...
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It doesn't sound like a software issue, therefor a rom won't fix the issue. If he goes back to stock, and the issue persists its hardware. Sounds like a loose wire, but I can't be sure...
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We were trying to track down the cause, but never did, we still think it might be vodoo sound related when its built into the kernel...
But if it happens on stock, it could be something else, only happens to me on modded kernels.
If you can see this link please take a few moments to click and read, its for a good cause, you can make a difference, help spread the word today...
http://www.picketfenceblogs.com/vote/3616
I've never expiernced this either
Not sure what to say if it happens on stock. Proud to say i've never ran stock except for the 2 minutes before I flashed a custom ROM. And yeah I mentioned the ROM because it does have a custom kernel and even though we've all heard arguments that it's this or that i still have to say it's gotta be something in how voodoo is compiled into the kernel like ecooce says.
So I odin back to DI18 and let it update before I took it to the store and of course it's not happening anymore
I remember going back to stock after ACS 1.1 destroyed my phone a few times (my phone would freeze a lot and since there's no journaling in 1.1 everything would get corrupt) and I still had the issue. Playing air attack hd with the crackling was horrendous. Anyway, thanks for the support everyone. Sorry for the scare
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I've been having this issue with my epic for the past month or so. If something (other than a phone call) is playing audio (game, music) through the speaker or the earbuds I hear a crackling noise when I touch the screen and only when I touch the screen. It's very easily reproduced too. For example, I'll have pandora playing through the speaker and it'll play fine until I touch the screen to change the song or do something else. If I keep my finger on the screen it'll continue making the crackling noise until I lift it off. Doesn't happen if I touch the screen while it's off. The same thing has happened on every rom I tried including odin to stock eb13 and ec05. Since I've had the phone for less than a year, can I take it to a sprint store and get a replacement? Or does anyone have any idea how to fix this?
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I am glad you fixed it.
Kernel bug. Likely not a hardware issue.
I have the same exact behavior with Genocide 1.0. I'm unaware if this occurs in other Voodoo sound enabled Kernels but it sounds like it does.
On stock EC05 the problem goes away. For me anyways.
It does for most. TWZ 1.4 doesnt have the problem and neither does Bonsai 4.1.1 kernel AFAIK. There might be other known good combos.
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Kernel bug. Likely not a hardware issue.
I have the same exact behavior with Genocide 1.0. I'm unaware if this occurs in other Voodoo sound enabled Kernels but it sounds like it does.
On stock EC05 the problem goes away. For me anyways.
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I have the same issue on certain kernels. I was just about to ask, too. VERY noticeable when I'm playing music in my car and need to do something onscreen, makes the audio sound terrible.
I had this issue on several roms, including acs and the previous bonsai. In fact, my experience with acs was identical to yours. My phone just didn't play well with it. I don't have this problem with stock plus rom, even with the genocide kernel. Give that one a shot.
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I had this issue on several roms, including acs and the previous bonsai. In fact, my experience with acs was identical to yours. My phone just didn't play well with it. I don't have this problem with stock plus rom, even with the genocide kernel. Give that one a shot.
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or its loose wire on your audio jack could be short to graounf when you tap the phone
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Kernel bug. Likely not a hardware issue.
I have the same exact behavior with Genocide 1.0. I'm unaware if this occurs in other Voodoo sound enabled Kernels but it sounds like it does.
On stock EC05 the problem goes away. For me anyways.
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Mine also crackles when the brightness adjusts. This includes when the screen fades out when I turn it off.
I hadn't noticed it when simply touching the screen though, just with the brightness. Also, I never noticed it until I started running custom roms with voodoo built in.
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Download voodoo control and turn down headphone amplifier or turn down volume limit. Might do the trick.......
First of all, I know that I have read about this problem in other threads but I cannot find it; I think it was associated with custom ROMs but I'm not entirely sure.
I have two problems with my sound right now:
popping
Every time the tables boots up the speakers pop. No a big deal and it might be just because they get activated and the current causes the pop. But every time a sound is made? That is annoying!
humming/screeching/buzzing
Now this is the scariest problem. The sound that comes from "within" the tablet, i.e. behind the screen and not the actual speakers. It does not always appear but seems to be linked to apps trying to use sound. It almost sounds like a hard drive spinning irregularly or a distant old dial-up modem (weird analogy, I know). I don't know what's causing it but in my opinion it's not a good sign.
Again, if anyone here remembers where it has been discussed already I will take the blow as long as I can find out if the problem(s) have been solved somewhere.
Thanks y'all!
1. Everyone's device does that. It's just the way the device wakes the speakers before playing a sound as you say. Would hope Asus could do something about that in the future.
2. It sounds like you are hearing the screen's backlight frequency. Not everyone will hear this (as we lose the ability to hear certain frequencies as we get older), but again it happens with everyones device, and is normal with any screen using a backlight.
Do you have a custom rom on it?
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Do you have a custom rom on it?
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Yes, I do. I use the PRIME! 1.4 ROM and the blades-clemsyn overclock kernel. It has been an issue since the 3.1 upgrade I think. Never had it stock though so I cannot comment on issues with the stock ROM, unfortunately.
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2. It sounds like you are hearing the screen's backlight frequency. Not everyone will hear this (as we lose the ability to hear certain frequencies as we get older), but again it happens with everyones device, and is normal with any screen using a backlight.
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What makes this theory a bit wobbly is that the sound isn't always there. It seems to be application-specific. I would expect a backlight frequency (like a fluorescence bulb?) to be audible whenever the backlight is on and not during one application running but not the other.
Process of elimination.
Roll back to stock and see if the problem occurs. If so, sounds like you’re going to have to return it for an exchange.
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Process of elimination.
Roll back to stock and see if the problem occurs. If so, sounds like you’re going to have to return it for an exchange.
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The scientific way, I like your idea
Do you also know if there has been a use for the SBK to enable root for the stock ROM?
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What makes this theory a bit wobbly is that the sound isn't always there. It seems to be application-specific. I would expect a backlight frequency (like a fluorescence bulb?) to be audible whenever the backlight is on and not during one application running but not the other.
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Each app will tell your device to process the images onscreen in different ways, whether thats the refresh rate, resolution or just pixel density, so you would still get different frequencies from different apps all the time. Anyway I'm not saying that's 100% the reason, it's just a possibilty based on what you were describing.
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Each app will tell your device to process the images onscreen in different ways, whether thats the refresh rate, resolution or just pixel density, so you would still get different frequencies from different apps all the time. Anyway I'm not saying that's 100% the reason, it's just a possibilty based on what you were describing.
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Very good points! Never thought of it this way... Do you also think it's worth going back to stock and try to figure it all out or just take it "as is"?
If it is what I thought it was, it won't make a difference which rom you use, and it's a normal feature of the tablet. You must live in a very quiet place to hear it all the time or have very sensitive ears. If it's not that, then trying another rom as mentioned above may help you narrow down the list of causes. If it's annoying you too much then possibly it IS a fault with the tablet and in which case you'd need to get a replacement. If it was me I'd probably roll back to the stock rom just to see.
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If it is what I thought it was, it won't make a difference which rom you use, and it's a normal feature of the tablet. You must live in a very quiet place to hear it all the time or have very sensitive ears. If it's not that, then trying another rom as mentioned above may help you narrow down the list of causes. If it's annoying you too much then possibly it IS a fault with the tablet and in which case you'd need to get a replacement. If it was me I'd probably roll back to the stock rom just to see.
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After 20 years of listening to metal I highly doubt that my ears are that sensitive but you never know I might try the stock ROM as soon as it has been rooted but for now I don't think it's worth it. I was more worried about something inside the device being tortured
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Yes, I do. I use the PRIME! 1.4 ROM and the blades-clemsyn overclock kernel. It has been an issue since the 3.1 upgrade I think. Never had it stock though so I cannot comment on issues with the stock ROM, unfortunately.
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I hear the buzzing sound too and I am also unning Prime 1.4 ROM and Clemsyn-Blades KERNEL. I hear it on the Left side of the tablet and sounds like its coming from the speaker but more towards the screen edge. Never heard it on Stock though.
dja2k
I'll have to wait for another reboot to test this, but I hear what I call high pitched 'tweeting' from the speaker I just have to touch the volume up/down button on the tablet and it seems to instantly stop.
I'll test here in a bit. Using Primordial 3.1 and the OC Kernel at 1.4 right now.
Update: 'twas my imagination on the touching of the volume button. It squeals a bit thru all the ASCII art and status boot screens, but settles down when the lock screen appears. Not a nuisance, but audible.
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I updated the Clemsyn-Blades v6 KERNEL to v7ELITE and I don't hear the buzzing sound anymore. Maybe it was that version of the custom KERNEL. I will check it out, maybe it is just random.
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Yes, I do. I use the PRIME! 1.4 ROM and the blades-clemsyn overclock kernel. It has been an issue since the 3.1 upgrade I think. Never had it stock though so I cannot comment on issues with the stock ROM, unfortunately.
What makes this theory a bit wobbly is that the sound isn't always there. It seems to be application-specific. I would expect a backlight frequency (like a fluorescence bulb?) to be audible whenever the backlight is on and not during one application running but not the other.
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It's the custom kernel you're using, mine was doing the same thing with some weird high pictched sounds too. I reflashed the stock ASUS kernel and it hasent done it since. Just to make sure, I reflashed the custom kernel you're using and the speakers make the humming noise again.
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It's the custom kernel you're using, mine was doing the same thing with some weird high pictched sounds too. I reflashed the stock ASUS kernel and it hasent done it since. Just to make sure, I reflashed the custom kernel you're using and the speakers make the humming noise again.
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I haven't noticed the humming since v7 of Clemsyn/Blades' kernel. But the popping is as bad as ever. I wish there was a fix for that too!
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First of all, I know that I have read about this problem in other threads but I cannot find it; I think it was associated with custom ROMs but I'm not entirely sure.
I have two problems with my sound right now:
popping
Every time the tables boots up the speakers pop. No a big deal and it might be just because they get activated and the current causes the pop. But every time a sound is made? That is annoying!
humming/screeching/buzzing
Now this is the scariest problem. The sound that comes from "within" the tablet, i.e. behind the screen and not the actual speakers. It does not always appear but seems to be linked to apps trying to use sound. It almost sounds like a hard drive spinning irregularly or a distant old dial-up modem (weird analogy, I know). I don't know what's causing it but in my opinion it's not a good sign.
Again, if anyone here remembers where it has been discussed already I will take the blow as long as I can find out if the problem(s) have been solved somewhere.
Thanks y'all!
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Sound like you got a Bee in there eathing rice crispies
I think its pretty sweet!
Cool story bro
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I don't like the icons very much, but I always welcome new functionality.
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I don't like the icons very much, but I always welcome new functionality.
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JT has a really nice version of ICS. Right now it's my daily driver.
~This is going to take crackerjack timing, Wang.~
I finally flashed his 4th build although I had been planning to wait until it was sbrissenized (meaning ICS with TSM Parts for anyone who doesn't already know what I mean by "sbrissenized"). So far I'm liking it... It'll be even better with a couple of Maraschino cherries
Has anyone seen John Connor?
JT's ics is pretty sweet. It's my daily driver. Battery life is by far the best I've seen, period. It has it's quirks, but nothing unmanageable.
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battery isn't that great, but it did run Pandora for my work place for 5 hours yesterday (screen off of course) and that only took a 20% hit. Not near as bad as I expected. My Gmail keeps stopping though and I kinda need that. That's literally the only problem I've had. And randomly during a call my screen won't come back on till reboot, but might be my undervolting. I'm gonna reflash and see if that works before I go try that new CM7 KANG build. Hope this thread stays decent...
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I think its pretty sweet!
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Sorry it took me a while to notice the pun thar But, yes, ICS (and ice cream in general) is pretty sweet
Only problem is my phone is getting some lag with the latest build... Perhaps because ICS was designed for newer hardware than what the Fascinate has (especially in terms of RAM)...
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Where is the new build.
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Well...the launcher is SLOW. Once I replaced it with ADW and a qtpie ICS theme it's much, much better. One trick I've found is enabling 2d hardware acceleration, and then downloading spare parts and disabling compatibility mode so apps don't get all screwed up.
This smooths things up quite a bit, along with a slight overclock. Everything is smooth as butter, and I'm not exaggerating here! I do however suffer from random reboots, this could be caused by my overclock though. I also limited background processes to 4 to see if that would help anything, I'm still testing it.
As for the extremely loud in call volume, Chopper's tasker setup is working perfectly so that's not an issue. And then no voice recognition software or tethering works, no tethering actually sucks because I own a WiFi only tablet.
Also I've noticed when I receive a call, the person on the other end hears static if my screen is on. And for some final touches I bulletproofed my launcher with a part of the supercharger script.
No MMS...could care less about that.
Battery life is mediocre, I'm still calibrating it though.
Sorry I kinda jumped all over the place.
Those are my thoughts on Ice Cream Sammiches.
It is early days, but has anyone noticed a change in overall performance after the 4.2.1 update?
This could be a placebo effect, but I'm certain that things are a little smoother, less lag, and there are certainly less freezes / forced restarts so far. I was getting at least 3 of these per day, and have had none since yesterday. It also seems to have cooled the screen colour temperature slightly more bluey and less yellowy.
If you would've googled the 4.2.1 change log you would know that there isn't anything that would improve what you think you are noticing. All that changed is December was added back into calander and some vibration fixes. There is nothing that would improve performance or anything you've mentioned.
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If you would've googled the 4.2.1 change log you would know that there isn't anything that would improve what you think you are noticing..
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Oh no! If only I had done that, I wouldn't feel half as stupid as I do now.
Actually, I did and found this caveat (or similar) attached to them all.
This only includes the Android Open Source Project changes and does not include any changes in any proprietary components included by Google
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Hence my question.
eager27 said:
Oh no! If only I had done that, I wouldn't feel half as stupid as I do now.
Actually, I did and found this caveat (or similar) attached to them all.
Hence my question.
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Woa... you are on to something. I got a 4873 on the Quadrant benches with my N4. Geekbench shows no improvement what so ever, remaining at an incredibly static 2042.
I'll test on my N10 when the battery goes up, it may be the case that my low bat is affecting scores.
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Oh no! If only I had done that, I wouldn't feel half as stupid as I do now.
Actually, I did and found this caveat (or similar) attached to them all.
Hence my question.
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Oh yes! I work with the source. I answered your question. Its probably the smallest and most minor update from Google ever.
Call me crazy, naive, silly noob, but I'm definitely getting zippier, more buttery performance on stock takju 4.2.1 since I OTA'd this morning.
And honestly...if I'm enjoying it more, what else matters, right?
Well bring on the placebo effect, I reckon it's a little faster too. And my led notifications suddenly work now too, I had pretty much given up on them and concluded the hardware might be broken but was amazed when it started blinking after the 4.2.1 update!
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tofo17 said:
Well bring on the placebo effect, I reckon it's a little faster too. And my led notifications suddenly work now too, I had pretty much given up on them and concluded the hardware might be broken but was amazed when it started blinking after the 4.2.1 update!
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Yep. Never said anythings wrong with the old placebo effect. In most cases it's better to have that than nothing. I was just stated the fact that I saw what exactly was changed and giving the proper information for it.
I got ~9000 on 4.2 on Antutu, and 13000+ on 4.2.1. Probably has more to do with the update to 3.0 though. The big increases were in 2D and 3D performance.