OK so I have read different way to save battery power on rooted nexus s but don't know what is best. I am currently using setcpu but can not tell a difference. If anyone has another way please share in great detail because I am new to rooted phones.
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Turning off the mobile data connection will make an enormous difference you won't believe it.
Second is use WiFi when available, it will save tons of battery.
Why does there always have to be a funny guy.
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He's not joking. That IS how you do it.
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Man Im sorry dude read that wrong. I thought he said turn phone off LOL......
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Not so sure about the wifi part. I've compared the phone idling on 3G vs. idling on wifi and with wifi there's definitely more power draw. Confirmed it with System Panel, the CPU is pegged at around 10% usage while idling with wifi vs. about 1% when idling on 3G.
This has been consistent with all my other android phones too (Nexus One, Vibrant, MT4G)
B3arfruit said:
OK so I have read different way to save battery power on rooted nexus s but don't know what is best. I am currently using setcpu but can not tell a difference. If anyone has another way please share in great detail because I am new to rooted phones.
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can please post what your setcpu settings are? thx dude!
dinan said:
Not so sure about the wifi part. I've compared the phone idling on 3G vs. idling on wifi and with wifi there's definitely more power draw. Confirmed it with System Panel, the CPU is pegged at around 10% usage while idling with wifi vs. about 1% when idling on 3G.
This has been consistent with all my other android phones too (Nexus One, Vibrant, MT4G)
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You're right, wifi uses more power than 3G, and they both use more power than 2G. When idling I'd definitely want to sit on 2G if anything. When you actually need an internet connection though, wifi and 3G will be more efficient. They'll use more power but will download much faster to make up for it.
Saving power is the same for almost all android devices:
1) turn off mobile network when not in use
2) turn off wifi when not in use
3) turn off gps
4) turn off automatic syns( if you dont use them)
5) brightness set to low
6) turn off live wallpapers
7) use a black wallpaper
8) turn off haptic feedbacks
9) set screen time out to a smaller interval.
all these steps might help you but it kind of takes away the charm of the phone imho.
dinan said:
Not so sure about the wifi part. I've compared the phone idling on 3G vs. idling on wifi and with wifi there's definitely more power draw. Confirmed it with System Panel, the CPU is pegged at around 10% usage while idling with wifi vs. about 1% when idling on 3G.
This has been consistent with all my other android phones too (Nexus One, Vibrant, MT4G)
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It's definitely the opposite of that, its counter intuitive but WiFi uses significantly less battery life over 3g. I can post some numbers when I get home tonight if anyone's interested. But a good test is leave your phone on WiFi all night, then repeat on 3g and see the enormous difference. Better yet just look at the official Google specs, web browsing time is always higher on WiFi.
I did some real nice graphing of current draw at 2 second sample rate comparing various tasks which is What I'll try to post later..
What's the best rom for battery life?
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robstunner said:
What's the best rom for battery life?
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Bionix 1.2 @ stock speed, not the OC-ed version
it's stable, fast, and battery good
i have my data on all the time sync-ing every 30min
and 1 battery can last me a full day without plugging it in
Wifi automatically sleeps if your phone is idle for so long, therefore saving battery. 3g absolutely kills my battery so I have mobile data disabled when not using it. Works well for me. Also screen brightness on 0% using an app works good.
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deeren said:
Saving power is the same for almost all android devices:
1) turn off mobile network when not in use
2) turn off wifi when not in use
3) turn off gps
4) turn off automatic syns( if you dont use them)
5) brightness set to low
6) turn off live wallpapers
7) use a black wallpaper
8) turn off haptic feedbacks
9) set screen time out to a smaller interval.
all these steps might help you but it kind of takes away the charm of the phone imho.
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I agree!!!!!!
AllGamer said:
Bionix 1.2 @ stock speed, not the OC-ed version
it's stable, fast, and battery good
i have my data on all the time sync-ing every 30min
and 1 battery can last me a full day without plugging it in
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Should you use setcpu with this rom? Or is it better without it
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Should you use setcpu with this rom? Or is it better without it
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i tried with and without setCPU, and the difference in power saving was marginal
so i removed it.
it probably gave me an extra hour, but there is a bug with setCPU when picking up calls, it gets staticky until the CPU is at 800 Mhz or more
so with all that i mind, i decided to remove it
leerobson99 said:
Wifi automatically sleeps if your phone is idle for so long, therefore saving battery. 3g absolutely kills my battery so I have mobile data disabled when not using it. Works well for me. Also screen brightness on 0% using an app works good.
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True, change the WiFi sleep policy to "never" to avoid this and extra battery savings.
I've been getting the best with CM7 so far, but I think all the roms that are about the same as long as you don't overclock them.
Use a black static wallpaper, low brightness, and get the black-themed MMS and Gmail apps from the Themes/Applications forum.
I can get well through my work day. Usually have 2+ hours of display time on and about 16 hours off the charger by the time I plug in at night with still 20-30% left. Depends on my reception in the day as well, which is pretty bad at work, so I think I'd have 30-35% if my reception at work was good.
deeren said:
Saving power is the same for almost all android devices:
1) turn off mobile network when not in use
2) turn off wifi when not in use
3) turn off gps
4) turn off automatic syns( if you dont use them)
5) brightness set to low
6) turn off live wallpapers
7) use a black wallpaper
8) turn off haptic feedbacks
9) set screen time out to a smaller interval.
all these steps might help you but it kind of takes away the charm of the phone imho.
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Agreed on all points except for GPS. Since it's an on-demand service, leaving it on makes little to no impact on battery life. The phone only utilizes the GPS connection when an app calls for it and saves you the time of having to toggle it every time you need it. Just leave it on.
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It's definitely the opposite of that, its counter intuitive but WiFi uses significantly less battery life over 3g. I can post some numbers when I get home tonight if anyone's interested. But a good test is leave your phone on WiFi all night, then repeat on 3g and see the enormous difference. Better yet just look at the official Google specs, web browsing time is always higher on WiFi.
I did some real nice graphing of current draw at 2 second sample rate comparing various tasks which is What I'll try to post later..
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An active WiFi connection uses a lot less than an active 3g connection because the connection already exists and the data transfers faster.
An idle 3g connection uses significantly less energy than an idle WiFi connection. If you aren't using or connected to WiFi, turn it off. Set the WiFi sleep mode to sleep when the screen is off.
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I've had a very sudden and dramatic improvement in battery life and I thought that I'd post what seems to have worked for me.
I installed setCPU and set it for
768/254 on demand - main
245/245 performance screen off
368/368 performance - battery<41%
battery<101% 768/245 on demand
I installed Ultimate JuiceDefender and set it for extreme - blocking all connectivity except for a white-list
I decided that I could do a better job than the auto screen, so I installed Brightness level and I keep it generally at about 20% and then flick it up a bit if I need it.
I disabled auto rotation and now toggle the screen with a widget.
I've taken phone calls, recorded phone calls, checked email a few times, tweeted - very often using wifi which I operate using a toggle widget
I had the phone on charge all night switched off.
Disconnected it at 8.00 this morning and at 6.30 this evening, the JD widget tells me that there is still 12hrs and 28 mins of battery time left.
Considering the size of the screen and what this phone does. And considering the very poor battery life - 8hrs max I was getting before, I am far happier and the phone now becomes a practical item to have.
Whats your percentage battery left?
seems to be saying 72%
I also noticed that for the first time screen usage is less than running usage.
Screen consumption has always been the big factor on phone - and I see that is what people say on the forum, so I'm very pleased to have reduced it so well.
The Brightness level app allows a variable control whereas all the other screen controllers have seen allow you only to rotate through three or four preset brightness levels.
Brightness Level lets you do that with a widget but it also has a slide bar, which is what I was looking for
So basically you've downgraded the DHD to a level of a Nokia S40 device imo As this has been covered by many others in many other battery life related threads I'm just saying this short and simple. Just use the device as it is supposed to, enjoy the awesome features it provides at the full potential and don't get fixated on the battery life, it'll get you through the day no problem (doesn't include playing angry birds for three hours straight ) and just plug it in when you have the chance.
About battery, some tips, my battery life is around 2 days with normal usage of phone, only i dont use 3g only wi-fi:
Brightness - between 25% and 50%
When you on the internet and use native explorer for android go to "Menu-more-settings-enable plugins" and set it to "On demand"
Tupe *#*#4636*#*# - "Phone information" and set "Preffered network type" to "GSM Auto Prl"
Android Revolution HD 2.15 rom
lejars1 said:
I've had a very sudden and dramatic improvement in battery life and I thought that I'd post what seems to have worked for me.
I installed setCPU and set it for
768/254 on demand - main
245/245 performance screen off
368/368 performance - battery<41%
battery<101% 768/245 on demand
I installed Ultimate JuiceDefender and set it for extreme - blocking all connectivity except for a white-list
I decided that I could do a better job than the auto screen, so I installed Brightness level and I keep it generally at about 20% and then flick it up a bit if I need it.
I disabled auto rotation and now toggle the screen with a widget.
I've taken phone calls, recorded phone calls, checked email a few times, tweeted - very often using wifi which I operate using a toggle widget
I had the phone on charge all night switched off.
Disconnected it at 8.00 this morning and at 6.30 this evening, the JD widget tells me that there is still 12hrs and 28 mins of battery time left.
Considering the size of the screen and what this phone does. And considering the very poor battery life - 8hrs max I was getting before, I am far happier and the phone now becomes a practical item to have.
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your on stock rom mate?
i can see that you can charge your phone while its turnd off..
i think on customized ROM like ARHD LD CORE cm7 and etc cannot charge their phone while its off because iT will BOOTup to recovery mode
Doesn't performance mode just keep the CPU clock on it's maximum? It would rather shorten the battery life than prolong it.
Why buy a smartphone and use it like a landline lol i hammer my phone and still get 10-14 hours out of it, thats fine for me, i only get 3hrs out of my laptop lol
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Mate there is something eating your battery if u only get 8 hours battery life.
These adjustments you made are unnecessary if you find the culprit that is eating your battery, why get a phone like the dhd and run it on 20% brightness and lower the cpu to such a level.
Have you used spare parts to check your battery usage?
Im currently on 40% and my phone has been unplugged since 27 hours and I don't even have setcpu installed.
Maybe you should post details on your barret usage!
Swyped from my sexy galaxy tab
But I'm not compromising anything now. I'm completely happy with the way that the phone works for me now.
I'm actually operating the screen at 12% for most of the time - when I am not outside and it doesn't present any difficulty for me.
Obviously I would always like better battery life and I'll look for more ways to improve it.
Doesn't performance mode just keep the CPU clock on it's maximum? It would rather shorten the battery life than prolong it.
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According to setCPU, if you set it to on demand, it will keep on scanning for required power level. Performance automatically goes to the max. Apparently on demand uses slightly more power so they advice to use performance when possible. So I set the same max/min figure and use a performance governor.
i would actually consider rooting the phone as an alternative, or getting a bigger battery. i have alot of issue with the battery life previously, but after switching rom, it actually help alot
Well it is rooted to enable JD and setcpu to work. But I haven't dared go further because I am still trying to understand the entire process - and also the way back!
I probably will eventually.
I've ordered a 1500 Mugen - and if that actually exists and if it is an improvement on the stock battery then that will advance things as well.
I'm very pleased with the improvement I have achieved so far because at least I'm able to take the thing off the tit for a full working day and use it as a real mobile phone!!
lampz said:
your on stock rom mate?
i can see that you can charge your phone while its turnd off..
i think on customized ROM like ARHD LD CORE cm7 and etc cannot charge their phone while its off because iT will BOOTup to recovery mode
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this is only true if you're using CMW Recovery 3.x.x.x
redlinux said:
this is only true if you're using CMW Recovery 3.x.x.x
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No, its on all versions of cwm, you can still charge your phone though, even in recovery
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AndroHero said:
No, its on all versions of cwm, you can still charge your phone though, even in recovery
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Yup2x, it's true that we can charge it very well while in recovery mode. I was referring to the situation wherein the printer reboots to recovery as soon as you plug in the charger to your DHD. Some users have reported that and they are all using 3.x.x.x.
lejars1 said:
So I set the same max/min figure and use a performance governor.
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As far as I've understood, you will always have max frequency when performance is applied. So there is no use setting min value really as it doesn't matter.
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Vispe85 said:
So basically you've downgraded the DHD to a level of a Nokia S40 device imo As this has been covered by many others in many other battery life related threads I'm just saying this short and simple. Just use the device as it is supposed to, enjoy the awesome features it provides at the full potential and don't get fixated on the battery life, it'll get you through the day no problem (doesn't include playing angry birds for three hours straight ) and just plug it in when you have the chance.
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By far the most excellent advice. I totally agree with you.
First and foremost this guide is based around the Sprint Nexus S 4G. If you do not have the Nexus S 4G, Than this guide will probably not help you. =)
Secondly all credit goes to the wonderful people that work endlessly to make these wonderful Roms and Kernels. Without you guys Android wouldn't be what it is today!
Third: Please make a back up and use this guide at your own risk. I don't want to bare the weight of someone turning their phone into a paperweight by using this guide.
Alright, Now lets get to the fun part.
Case you've already forgotten why you're ready this topic. This is my rough how-to guide on getting easily over 2 days out of a single charge on your phone, Very much possible to push 3 or more days depending on use and other varying factors.
What you're going to need to start:
- Rooted Nexus S 4G with a custom recovery like Clockwork mod.
- Flash the following Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417499
- Flash the following Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436313
-Flash the following "KL2" Radio update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077168
After you have flashed all the above and confirmed your phone is running stable with all the default settings. Charge your phone to 100% and reboot back into recovery, and WIPE YOUR BATTERY STATS
Now. Lets begin configuring your rom and kernel!
- Install CPU MASTER FREE from the android market https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&hl=en
Set the following on CPU Master
- CPU Speed 800 MAX and 100MIN
- CPU Governor CONSERVATIVE
- and Scheduler set to CFQ
- Make sure to click apply on boot as well
- Now Install NSTOOLS from the Android market https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.cyann.nstools&feature=search_result
Set the following on NSTOOLS
- DEEP IDLE: ENABLED
- Backlight Dimmer: ENABLED
- Make sure Backlight Notifications are left disabled. It keeps phone from idling properly.
- Leave all other settings alone and make sure to check set on boot
- Now lastly install Antutu Battery Saver from the Android Market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.powersaver&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUucG93ZXJzYXZlciJd
Activate Battery Saver and set to level 2 battery save. Easy as that.
Basically your done! =)
If you notice your phone has a slightly worse or little to no improvement on the battery this is due to you deleting your battery stats. As you use your phone it will write new stats and you will begin to notice a difference after a few cycles. Just make sure your battery is charged when you wipe them, Let the phone run almost completely dead. Plug it up, Let it charge back to 100%, Unplug it. Rinse and repeat. Just be sure to unplug it when you notice it's fully charged even if you don't plan on going anywhere. Just let it sit and run on battery so that it calibrates the battery stats while it's idle as well.
Now as you should already know your battery life is going to heavily depend on use and SIGNAL STRENGTH. It seems a lot of people don't realize the more signal you have the longer your battery will last. If you're in an area with very low signal it can kill your phone in a matter of hours.
I have attached a screen shot of my battery life using this above method. Other settings I will mention
- WIFI ENABLED and CONNECTED
- Bluetooth and NFC DISABLED
- Automatic backlight control enabled
- Facebook notifcations, Weather and Contacts are the only things set to SYNC on my phone.
- Usage: Light to moderate. This includes a few texts throughout the day. A few phone calls, and a brief checking of facebook every now and then.
If I'm missing anything I will update this post. That is all for now. Happy modding and may this tutorial work the same wonders for you as it did me.
Also I should state that the phone finally died at around 2Days 17hrs on battery. My goal for 3 straight days was cut short after a few 30 minute phone calls and other work I had to do on the phone.
If you have any questions. Feel free to post, or PM me. I'll be here =)
cwayn1989 said:
First and foremost this guide is based around the Sprint Nexus S 4G. If you do not have the Nexus S 4G, Than this guide will probably not help you. =)
Secondly all credit goes to the wonderful people that work endlessly to make these wonderful Roms and Kernels. Without you guys Android wouldn't be what it is today!
Third: Please make a back up and use this guide at your own risk. I don't want to bare the weight of someone turning their phone into a paperweight by using this guide.
Alright, Now lets get to the fun part.
Case you've already forgotten why you're ready this topic. This is my rough how-to guide on getting easily over 2 days out of a single charge on your phone, Very much possible to push 3 or more days depending on use and other varying factors.
What you're going to need to start:
- Rooted Nexus S 4G with a custom recovery like Clockwork mod.
- Flash the following Rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417499
- Flash the following Kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436313
-Flash the following "KL2" Radio update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077168
After you have flashed all the above and confirmed your phone is running stable with all the default settings. Charge your phone to 100% and reboot back into recovery, and WIPE YOUR BATTERY STATS
Now. Lets begin configuring your rom and kernel!
- Install CPU MASTER FREE from the android market https://market.android.com/details?id=com.antutu.CpuMasterFree&hl=en
Set the following on CPU Master
- CPU Speed 800 MAX and 100MIN
- CPU Governor CONSERVATIVE
- and Scheduler set to CFQ
- Make sure to click apply on boot as well
- Now Install NSTOOLS from the Android market https://market.android.com/details?id=mobi.cyann.nstools&feature=search_result
Set the following on NSTOOLS
- DEEP IDLE: ENABLED
- Backlight Dimmer: ENABLED
- Make sure Backlight Notifications are left disabled. It keeps phone from idling properly.
- Leave all other settings alone and make sure to check set on boot
- Now lastly install Antutu Battery Saver from the Android Market
https://market.android.com/details?...1bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5hbnR1dHUucG93ZXJzYXZlciJd
Activate Battery Saver and set to level 2 battery save. Easy as that.
Basically your done! =)
If you notice your phone has a slightly worse or little to no improvement on the battery this is due to you deleting your battery stats. As you use your phone it will write new stats and you will begin to notice a difference after a few cycles. Just make sure your battery is charged when you wipe them, Let the phone run almost completely dead. Plug it up, Let it charge back to 100%, Unplug it. Rinse and repeat. Just be sure to unplug it when you notice it's fully charged even if you don't plan on going anywhere. Just let it sit and run on battery so that it calibrates the battery stats while it's idle as well.
Now as you should already know your battery life is going to heavily depend on use and SIGNAL STRENGTH. It seems a lot of people don't realize the more signal you have the longer your battery will last. If you're in an area with very low signal it can kill your phone in a matter of hours.
I have attached a screen shot of my battery life using this above method. Other settings I will mention
- WIFI ENABLED and CONNECTED
- Bluetooth and NFC DISABLED
- Automatic backlight control enabled
- Facebook notifcations, Weather and Contacts are the only things set to SYNC on my phone.
- Usage: Light to moderate. This includes a few texts throughout the day. A few phone calls, and a brief checking of facebook every now and then.
If I'm missing anything I will update this post. That is all for now. Happy modding and may this tutorial work the same wonders for you as it did me.
Also I should state that the phone finally died at around 2Days 17hrs on battery. My goal for 3 straight days was cut short after a few 30 minute phone calls and other work I had to do on the phone.
If you have any questions. Feel free to post, or PM me. I'll be here =)
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I thought it was the More Bars you have the more Data Kills Your Battery... but sprints 3G sucks .. some users only experience a .5kbs to 1.0 Mbs (if your lucky) ... that being said I think that's why your battery lasts longer. But then again I'm on Wifi so my battery has lasted all day ^_^ 15% left. Nfc on , Bluetooth off , screen at 50% brightness and heavy usage. Buuuut in your screen shot below your on 3G ... the 2 days.. was it always on Wifi?
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What is your screen on time?
I don't use any "power-saving" apps, just AOKP Milestone 2 with Steve Garon's 1.14 kernel to run 50hrs with nearly 4hrs of screen time.
100/1100mhz, interactive governor, standard voltage, bln/bld on, wifi used whenever available. It doesn't help that my office is in a poor signal area - battery life would be much better if the signal reception bar stayed green all the time.
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iGoogleNexus said:
I thought it was the More Bars you have the more Data Kills Your Battery... but sprints 3G sucks .. some users only experience a .5kbs to 1.0 Mbs (if your lucky) ... that being said I think that's why your battery lasts longer. But then again I'm on Wifi so my battery has lasted all day ^_^ 15% left. Nfc on , Bluetooth off , screen at 50% brightness and heavy usage. Buuuut in your screen shot below your on 3G ... the 2 days.. was it always on Wifi?
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Screen time out is on 30 seconds. and Wifi was connected virutally through the entire time, exception was when I visited a friends house which is why in the screenshot it does not say it's connected, However it was still active.
Braneless said:
What is your screen on time?
I don't use any "power-saving" apps, just AOKP Milestone 2 with Steve Garon's 1.14 kernel to run 50hrs with nearly 4hrs of screen time.
100/1100mhz, interactive governor, standard voltage, bln/bld on, wifi used whenever available. It doesn't help that my office is in a poor signal area - battery life would be much better if the signal reception bar stayed green all the time.
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Those are very nice stats, Question, On your battery log, What are the massive drops in battery from? low signal or just heavy use on your phone?
Also I believe I'm going to go back an retry my experiment with SmartassV2 governor and On Demand. because I recently read they are better than conservative.
By all means play around with these settings and if you report back something I can approve on I will be happy to update this post and give credit to whoever finds more tricks to improving the battery life even more =)
cwayn1989 said:
Those are very nice stats, Question, On your battery log, What are the massive drops in battery from? low signal or just heavy use on your phone?
Also I believe I'm going to go back an retry my experiment with SmartassV2 governor and On Demand. because I recently read they are better than conservative.
By all means play around with these settings and if you report back something I can approve on I will be happy to update this post and give credit to whoever finds more tricks to improving the battery life even more =)
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They're from heavy use, probably angry birds or web browsing. The poor signal usually results in much slower drain.
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Braneless said:
They're from heavy use, probably angry birds or web browsing. The poor signal usually results in much slower drain.
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Not saying you're wrong, but based on past experience when I lived in an area where my phone was constantly losing and gaining signal or especially switching between Verizon (Roaming) and Sprint to find a signal, My phone would get very warm and it would cause massive battery drain.
Also in regards to the Sprints 3G speed.
Here in town where I live now, with the new KL2 radio
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I have attached screenshots of 3G speeds. It seems today when I ran the test the speeds aren't that special, I guess it all depends on network load.
Braneless said:
What is your screen on time?
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This ^
I can get about 4-5 hrs on screen-on time a day with a full charge before it dies. I couldn't imagine spreading that amount of time over three days unless I was travelling again or something lol
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kyouko said:
This ^
I can get about 4-5 hrs on screen-on time a day with a full charge before it dies. I couldn't imagine spreading that amount of time over three days unless I was travelling again or something lol
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Haha yeah sorry about that guys, That could have been helpful for me to post, but I actually just now realized you could view your screen on hours by clicking it. I feel about stupid now.
After I tweak some more settings and do this little experiment again I'll be sure to actually include that, Seeing as it would have been helpful LOL
Braneless said:
What is your screen on time?
I don't use any "power-saving" apps, just AOKP Milestone 2 with Steve Garon's 1.14 kernel to run 50hrs with nearly 4hrs of screen time.
100/1100mhz, interactive governor, standard voltage, bln/bld on, wifi used whenever available. It doesn't help that my office is in a poor signal area - battery life would be much better if the signal reception bar stayed green all the time.
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How do you get your phone to idle so well? I can never get the battery stats to flatline like that. Could it be due to me having BLN turned on as the OP said that causes an idle bug?
tycruickshank said:
How do you get your phone to idle so well? I can never get the battery stats to flatline like that. Could it be due to me having BLN turned on as the OP said that causes an idle bug?
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There's a possibly you're running an app in the background that's preventing your phone from deep idling. Also try the battery saving app I mentioned in the post as well. It works wonders for some, and others don't notice difference. There's a lot of varying factors.
Have you wiped your battery stats and calibrated your battery with the method I mentioned above? Also you can check to see if your phone is deep idling by going into NSTools and clicking Idle stats.
If you see that your idle numbs are higher than your deep idle stats, Than yes, Something is preventing you're phone from doing so, and I would recommend disabling BLN and seeing if that fixes it.
It could be an issue with BLN and it may not be. My entire post is basically the steps and settings I've figured out and tweaked on my own to achieve maximum battery. I've read around and it seems some others have used BLN without any noticeable difference in battery at all. I guess it really just depends.
Also to the other post, The main reason I run my phone unclocked is basically, in use, I prefer the CPU to be at the lowest max speed possible, while remaining smooth, and I've noticed no lag at 800max, So therefor even when I'm using my phone it's still not going to be pulling as much power as if lets say I had it set to 1000 or 1100. Overclocking is great, Don't get me wrong, but unless you're doing something heavy like gaming or a sheet ton of crazy multitasking, I don't really think it's worth it. That's just my opinion though =)
So you're at home all this time? Then why go through all this trouble and handicapping of features and performance? Why not just plug it in?
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So you're at home all this time? Then why go through all this trouble and handicapping of features and performance? Why not just plug it in?
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How exactly am I handicapping? I had people asking me how I was getting my battery life and wanted me to post up details on it, so I decided I would. I run an underclocked phone because like I stated in my previous post, I don't see the point in running a overclocked phone unless you're going for benchmarks or doing a lot of heavy multitasking and then by all means, Take the 5 seconds to change your max CPU speed. If you're referring to me not running BLN, That's because for some, including me it keeps your phone from idling and will cause battery drain. It works fine for some, others it doesn't. I'm SURE it's a problem on my end, but until I get it worked out I'm just leaving it off for now.
I've been learning about rooting and modding since the Sprint HTC Hero days. I'm far from a professional and will be the first to admit I'm an amateur compared to you guys, I cannot develop, I cannot code. I'm simply wrote this guide as a reference point for people wanting to get good battery life, That's why I said tweak with the settings and have fun.
The main reason I'm so ecstatic about the battery life, is up until now I've barely been able to get a days normal use out of an android phone even running custom roms and all that good stuff. Now I can actually use my phone throughout the day, Throw it on my dresser at night, and wake up the next morning with still enough charge to use it again without having to worry about plugging it up every night.
Home or not, this info can prove to be very useful depending on an individual's circumstance. I work multiple jobs and when I get home, sometimes I'm so tired I don't even bother to fiddle with my phone's charging cable and just crash on my bed. I've gotten great battery life using similar tactics (went to bed with a 13% charge once, woke up with the thing still alive and kicking), so again, some may find this extremely helpful. Good work!
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Home or not, this info can prove to be very useful depending on an individual's circumstance. I work multiple jobs and when I get home, sometimes I'm so tired I don't even bother to fiddle with my phone's charging cable and just crash on my bed. I've gotten great battery life using similar tactics (went to bed with a 13% charge once, woke up with the thing still alive and kicking), so again, some may find this extremely helpful. Good work!
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Thank you kind sir. I'm glad you were able to find this poorly formatted guide useful! =D
6 hours Battery life is the maximum i get in my rooted stock rom Nexus 7....
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6 hours doing what? If you use it non-stop for 6 hours (screen always on) then that's probably about right.
I get about 3 days use from mine (which has about 6 hours screen on time by the end of it).
Remember as well the warmer it gets the faster the battery will drop, plus turning it on and off a lot will take a lot out the battery, leaving it to idle in standby is better than to keep turning it off all the time.
I hope this helps but I cannot be more specific without knowing exactly what your doing with yours.
Can you post more detail. Like what you do with it during that 6 hours. do you have everything on like.
Things that you should check and lower to help with battery life
1 . screen brightness (put as low as you can handle)
2. Wifi on all the time when there is NO NETWORK CONNECTION.
3. sync accounts in background (sns notifications and running apps) ROGUE.
4. GPS AND LOCATION SETTINGS (EAT BATTERY NEARLY MORE THEN ANYTHING)
5. OVER CLOCKING AND TWEAKING SYSYEM
The above is a place to start good luck
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Can you post more detail. Like what you do with it during that 6 hours. do you have everything on like.
Things that you should check and lower to help with battery life
1 . screen brightness (put as low as you can handle)
2. Wifi on all the time when there is NO NETWORK CONNECTION.
3. sync accounts in background (sns notifications and running apps) ROGUE.
4. GPS AND LOCATION SETTINGS (EAT BATTERY NEARLY MORE THEN ANYTHING)
5. OVER CLOCKING AND TWEAKING SYSYEM
The above is a place to start good luck
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Saying that I have noticed leaving the wifi and gps on makes no noticeable difference on the nexus 7 (it does on a phone). The biggest drain seems to be leaving NFC turned on all the time, turn it off and you notice a boost straight away.
Less than 6 hours of intensive use everything on is the most i get for intensive usage...
Google promised 10 hours
I want a nuclear powered nexus 7, I want to compete with Nasa, s Mars Curiosity....
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wifi on for web use only, max brightness and bluetooth off..I can watch about 6 hours shows and play a game about hour and then turn wifi on check emails and some sites, all in all 6-8 hours depending. Never over 8 tho, but I charge it daily anyways as it seems to charge really fast.
NDUTU said:
Less than 6 hours of intensive use everything on is the most i get for intensive usage...
Google promised 10 hours
I want a nuclear powered nexus 7, I want to compete with Nasa, s Mars Curiosity....
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Quoted right from https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_7_8gb&feature=single-wide-banner sorry but sounds like your getting near average battery life. I feel as thou i get more then 8 hours continuous use but i never use mine for gaming and never in front of it for long periods..
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Nexus 7 is a no compromise Android tablet that’s designed to go wherever you go. With a stunning 7” display, powerful quad-core processor and up to 8 hours of battery life during active use, Nexus 7 was built to bring you the best of Google in a slim, portable package that fits perfectly in your hand.----------------------------------------------
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Lennyuk said:
Saying that I have noticed leaving the wifi and gps on makes no noticeable difference on the nexus 7 (it does on a phone). The biggest drain seems to be leaving NFC turned on all the time, turn it off and you notice a boost straight away.
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Thanks for the tip i will turn nfc off as i have only set it up NEVER Used it nor am i sure i ever will.
i was actually quoting on how my a500 and android phone does.Not really used the nexus long enough to get a true feel for battery life . My use is checking email posting to forums and internet searching. once in a while i will use gps. but never long periods of use.. gps on a500 sucks the battery and does not get the greatest signal . but it still gets 8 + hours .
Trinity 7 kernel, use TKT (play store) and UC to 100/1100 and disable offline CPUs at boot. Amazing battery life
Lennyuk said:
Saying that I have noticed leaving the wifi and gps on makes no noticeable difference on the nexus 7 (it does on a phone). The biggest drain seems to be leaving NFC turned on all the time, turn it off and you notice a boost straight away.
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Sounds like you have a fault somewher. NFC uses very little power.
Harry GT-S5830 said:
Trinity 7 kernel, use TKT (play store) and UC to 100/1100 and disable offline CPUs at boot. Amazing battery life
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Can I install this is kernel in The Stock Rom?
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Yes u can flash it on the stock ROM. Use the above settings and you'll find that the battery doesn't want to come down. Its the best kernel right now. Be sure to support the developer by buying the kernel app also. I got 1hr screen time for 10% battery so that gives you an idea. Also 7000 benchmark.
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This thread gave me the idea to re-download SetCPU to underclock it. However, I immediately noticed flaws. Switching between homescreens had become laggy. I uninstalled, and I'll leave it the way it is.
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Because you use the phone and the others no! I have similar battery life. I get 3 hours screen on time.
Try cyanogenmod. For me is the best rom.
Heres a few things that help me:
make sure if your on a ROM that has it to disable cell broadcasts in wireless & network settings.
In Google sync settings, uncheck everything you don't use or can manually sync. The only things I leave checked are gmail, contacts & calendar.
If you've opened maps, make sure to back all the way out of it & swipe it away from your recent tasks screen. Better yet, if you don't need it, uninstall it or use an alternative like mapquest app.
If you don't use Google talk, open it and sign out or uninstall it.
Try not to overdo it with widgets on your home screens. I mean a few is cool, but when u have 5 screens all jam packed with various widgets constantly running & syncing...
I know you said you've tried various kernels, but I honestly found that I got the best screen on time with Franco r86 kernel (just over 4hrs). I'm not a huge kernel fan so I haven't really tried others, but I was only getting just over 3 hrs on stock.
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harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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I use the greenify app to hibernate facebook and words with friends it helps somewhat on battery life
I recently discovered that if I reduce the brightness down to 50% (which is still very BRIGHT), I can get an extra 30% battery life.
Simple, and yet, effective
Turn the brightness down - even 10pct is plenty bright indoors.
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Flash matrix kernel
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lowrider262 said:
Heres a few things that help me:
make sure if your on a ROM that has it to disable cell broadcasts in wireless & network settings.
In Google sync settings, uncheck everything you don't use or can manually sync. The only things I leave checked are gmail, contacts & calendar.
If you've opened maps, make sure to back all the way out of it & swipe it away from your recent tasks screen. Better yet, if you don't need it, uninstall it or use an alternative like mapquest app.
If you don't use Google talk, open it and sign out or uninstall it.
Try not to overdo it with widgets on your home screens. I mean a few is cool, but when u have 5 screens all jam packed with various widgets constantly running & syncing...
I know you said you've tried various kernels, but I honestly found that I got the best screen on time with Franco r86 kernel (just over 4hrs). I'm not a huge kernel fan so I haven't really tried others, but I was only getting just over 3 hrs on stock.
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Thanks, I have now signed out of google talk. I only have one widget at the moment and that's the clock widget. It's annoying that everyone can get 3 or 4 hours screen on time and I only get 2
harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Try Eugene's CPU Sleeper from the market. It turns off all but one of your cores while the screen is off to minimize cpu usage. On CM nightly with stock kernel I got 34 hours with 17% remaining and 2.5 hours screen on time til I ended up charging my phone. I run my CPU at 1350 max / 384 min.
Make sure under sound settings all the sound on touch, keypad, etc are all turned off. Each time your phone ticks a sound it uses battery. Also bright display backgrounds will use more battery.
I only sync chrome, calendar and instant upload
good luck
harro3 said:
Hey guys,
I see some people here have AMAZING battery life. Some people are getting 4+ hours screen on time with a single charge.
I only get around 2 - 2.5 hours screen on time. Which is good, but not as good as other people.
I am using the latest Paranoid Android ROM, and I have tried many different kernels but battery life is the same with all of them. I tried undervolting, still the same battery life.
All location/gps settings are OFF. The only syncing I have is Facebook syncing every 4 hours. I checked the battery stats, and everything is normal. I checked Better Battery Stats and everything is normal too, no unusual wakelocks or anything like that.
I checked my cpu bin in terminal, and it has been binned as a 'FASTER' cpu.
I have very good signal all the time. Always use WiFi, never mobile data. Bluetooth, NFC are OFF, and brightness is autobrightness.
So after all this, why am I not getting amazing battery life like others?
Thank you!
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Clock down your device
Use conservative cpu governor or something like that,
Undervolt if necessary
Have a low brightness screen if it's possible
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Flash Franco's kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782
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You can also try this, it takes a few days to "learn" your routine then it supposedly starts saving battery. I'm currently in day 2 of learning mode so I don't know for sure how well it works. But it seems to be getting good reviews so far...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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lowrider262 said:
You can also try this, it takes a few days to "learn" your routine then it supposedly starts saving battery. I'm currently in day 2 of learning mode so I don't know for sure how well it works. But it seems to be getting good reviews so far...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
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I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
mrjoeltan said:
I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
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It just turns radios off and shuts down syncing, nothing you can't do by yourself.
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mrjoeltan said:
I've read the the battery guru app does nothing for your phone whatsoever...
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Well it basically learns your routines and changes your sync settings, turns WiFi on/off when needed, and various other things you could do yourself but might forget. Kinda like tasker for lazy people so in theory yes it could save you some battery.
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VoiD_Dweller said:
Try Eugene's CPU Sleeper from the market. It turns off all but one of your cores while the screen is off to minimize cpu usage. On CM nightly with stock kernel I got 34 hours with 17% remaining and 2.5 hours screen on time til I ended up charging my phone. I run my CPU at 1350 max / 384 min.
Make sure under sound settings all the sound on touch, keypad, etc are all turned off. Each time your phone ticks a sound it uses battery. Also bright display backgrounds will use more battery.
I only sync chrome, calendar and instant upload
good luck
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All those sounds are already off, that's the first thing I do
Thanks for that app, I'll try it to see if it helps.
curtzxion said:
Clock down your device
Use conservative cpu governor or something like that,
Undervolt if necessary
Have a low brightness screen if it's possible
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I undervolted the hell out of my phone, at one time it was a -150mv undervolt.
Brightness was on auto, I've now switched to controlling it manually to see if that helps
gravitysandwich said:
Flash Franco's kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2002782
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Tried his kernel already a few weeks ago. No real change in battery.
That seems weird
I am completely stock, and set things more or less the same with you (not syncing, no gps unless needed, on wifi all the time) and I could get over 4 hours screen on time on an 18 hours battery life. I believe this phone (chipset?) is really efficient on standby. Does your phone show that it's being kept awake much using the cpu spy app?
Same here... I'm on stock and the best i got was pretty impressive i think. 49 hours with 4 hours screen on time. I waited till the phone turned off by itself Even though i don't get that with heavier use, it's still enough to take me through a whole day which is better then my old phone
My battery saving tips:
-turn off everything you're not using (wi-fi when not at home or office/school, bluetooth, gps, low brightness indoors)
-swype away apps after you exit from them
-turn off the screen when you put it down/in your pocket etc.
-turn off google now
That is everything that i do. No sync disabling, undervolting, underclocking or other tricks
Install greenify app from playstore
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My battery saving tips:
-swype away apps after you exit from them
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That doesn't do anything. Android as a native app killer. On the other side, this would lead to more battery consumption as Android would have to initalize data the next time you open that app. IMHO leave the apps as they are, Android would take care of them and kill them when required.
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Kinda like tasker for lazy people so in theory yes it could save you some battery.
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IMO it's isn't as powerful as tasker, but it's giving some extra juice.
Well guys,
There are a few apps that i have been using past few days that have increased my battery life to a great extent. I thought i should share it with you all as well.
Download 3 apps, Optimus battery saver, Wifi power saver and no frills cpu from the market. Optimus battery saver connects to wifi or data(depending on your priority) after a set time say 10 min and syncs the data and switched the connections off. It does this every 10 min or whatever time interval you set and thus you save some juice by not always being connected to network.
Wifi power saver can disconnect the wifi automatically when it detects that it is not connected to any wifi network and thus you can save some battery when you go out and forget to switch the wifi off.
No frills cpu when set on demand can get your cpu frequency down to as low as 400MHz thus save battery when you ae not using your phone.
Could we see some battery stats to backup what you saying?
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Could we see some battery stats to backup what you saying?
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Sure, I actually did not take any screenshots but i will post them by tomorrow
tasker will take care of the first 2 ones easy. thats what i use. i also use it for other things as well but mostly for that lols.
i use trickster mod for the rest just fyi dont need that many apps when 1 can do the job lol saves EVEN MORE juice!
Try this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
Guys, I am not sure I understand... Doesn't the built in power saver mode do most of these jobs... It turns off 3g and wifi when phone is locked, and it reduces cpu usage, etc, etc.
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Also darkens the screen quite drastically. Sometimes you want more granular control
wyase9 said:
Guys, I am not sure I understand... Doesn't the built in power saver mode do most of these jobs... It turns off 3g and wifi when phone is locked, and it reduces cpu usage, etc, etc.
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Yes. I use tasker for those 2 + other things like WiFi toggle on when I get home/work or leave. Also other things as well so if your just looking for turning off data and those types of things then the default power saver will work
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