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Should a new thread be made for Darkyy's rom battery drain discussion?
Would it be of any benefit?
Would it help keep the Darkyy rom thread cleaner for actual glitches / problems, and stop posts getting lost in a mine filed of battery trolling?
Darkyy would love to hear what you think mate .
There are plenty of battery drain threads out there but because people are using Darkyy's rom they feel they should post about it in the rom thread, instead of using the already available battery drain threads.
Vote and discuss please.
yes i think it should be investigated seperately from the rom thread , i dont think its the common battery issues people have . i think its a bug it the rom . take my experience with it for example
flashed from darky 8.0 to 9.0
did a wipe beforehand
within less than 12 hours the phone would not boot due to battery flat .
this was from a fully charged battery , with maybe 30 mins use at most .
went back to v 8.0 np at all
Those said said no, can we know why you disagree?
Flashed darkyy 9, I can go 3 days without charging ... tho I will admit i'm not a overly heavy user, and the phone is on wifi the entire time.. at the end of the 3 days i'm around 20% battery, so I find no drain problem here.
jona29 said:
yes i think it should be investigated seperately from the rom thread , i dont think its the common battery issues people have . i think its a bug it the rom . take my experience with it for example
flashed from darky 8.0 to 9.0
did a wipe beforehand
within less than 12 hours the phone would not boot due to battery flat .
this was from a fully charged battery , with maybe 30 mins use at most .
went back to v 8.0 np at all
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I personally don't believe its a problem with the rom at all other wise EVERYONE would have it which they don't. I can get about 3 days out of v9.1.
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I get 1day and a few hours from it. 3 days if i dont use the phone at all
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I get 1day and a few hours from it. 3 days if i dont use the phone at all
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Are you using speedmod or voodoo?
Have you wiped the battery stats?
Did you do a wipe when you flashed to 9.1?
V9.1 carries over the battery stats from which ever rom you was using before i believe so there should be absoloutley no difference to your battery.
Theres an infinate amount of anomolies it could be theres no way to pin point the exact problem people have.
I have yeat to calibrate my battery, but indeed there is some kind of battery drain - no sync / no wifi and my battery goes down in around 12 hours. Still dont blame the ROM though, until I invesitigate and find the root cause for certain.
the battery jus drains quick in all darkys rom..the rom is gud but battry is a big issue.galaxy is kool wiv its color display but wats the fun wen u make a rom thts blacky jus to juice battry.but those who want snappy fast rom the darky is best.ive tested almost all diff roms an som r gud.everyone has a own choice.....
... and I'm sure someone will come soon and yell: Wrong forum section!
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... and I'm sure someone will come soon and yell: Wrong forum section!
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LOL yeah im waiting for that too mate.
At the end of the day though it would be better left here to stop flooding the rom thread.
People wont go to 2 different forums for one problem.
They will just keep flooding the rom thread...
Did you vote btw Darkyy? XD
actually with a fresh flash of 2.2 followed by 9.1 i see 3 times better battery
normal 2.2 lasted 3/4 a day
now 9.1+SO4_7_4 tests showing huge battery savings
will need a few days to give a detailed feedback on batt
mazroui said:
actually with a fresh flash of 2.2 followed by 9.1 i see 3 times better battery
normal 2.2 lasted 3/4 a day
now 9.1+SO4_7_4 tests showing huge battery savings
will need a few days to give a detailed feedback on batt
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that's a good idea..
think i'll try it too..
i said no because i get very good battery life with normal use - about 20-30 hours before it goes to 0.
9.1 with speedmod here, 1 day at most, no matter if I use or don't use the phone. Battery drain approx. 12% per hour, no matter if wifi is on or off...
Tried clearing battery stats, flashed wifi fix, removed self-updating widgets, no effect...
No offence but, dont we have enough Battery Drain threads around here? Im pretty sure we dont need rom/kernel specific battery drain threads, main thread will be spammed with it regardless of having this one (most of people around here are lazy to even read first post in the thread).
i was on darkys 9.1 and i found my battery drained quick, where as 8.0 was good
i dont use my phone much, i only use wifi when i need it, i only use gsm no 3g ever. everytime my phone goes back into my pocket i close all my apps thru task manager. bluetooth never gets used. i dont watch movies or play music. the only thing i do is play angry birds (that hammers my battery)
i still feel my battery life is poor and i have done all the methods to save its life like automatic brightness and NoLed ect.
shedding some light on this matter would be great... i think samsung should do something more about this... they can cram all this stuff into a tiny device, but yet they cant make a battery last more than 1-2days.
we can put a man on the moon... but an increased battery life is mind boggling ????
Should a Darkky battery drain thread be made?
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The poll question is redundant as this thread itself is about the battery drain...
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The poll question is redundant as this thread itself is about the battery drain...
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haha true
Too many variables. Everyone sets their phone up differently. I have been having pretty good battery life on 9.1 but I installed DU meter & I lost 40% in 3hrs. Its all dependant on whats running.
I dont see this as a ROM problem personally.
I have always had stock ROMS with my i9000, ending with JS7. I read the battery problems people had and I always counted myself very lucky that my phone had a pretty decent battery life.
Daily I would SMS (a lot), the odd phone call, quick blip on the internet (3g), lots of angry birds and doodle jump! I would get at least a couple of days before it went into the red.
Then I made the big mistake of installing Darky's ROM, it looks nice and feels a bit snappier, but now the battery is in the red in the evening after a full nights charge. This is even after severely curbing my phone use to try and extend the life. I have tried all the wiping tips and tricks too.
Same apps, different ROM. Darky's is an absolute nightmare for me and I will be going back to stock.
So is the ROM just another variable in the mix of battery issues, or the main offender?
Hello. I've the same battery drain, and I think it's very annoying when at evening you need to charge it again without using strongly the phone. Otherwise the Darky's rom, (I'm on 9.3) is very nice and marvellous, but this battery drain issue makes it worse.
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Have you tried using spare parts to see which app is sucking baster or cpu? Did you download the rom configure tool from the market? Which gallery did you instal worth the rom?
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stierney said:
Have you tried using spare parts to see which app is sucking baster or cpu? Did you download the rom configure tool from the market? Which gallery did you instal worth the rom?
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This and:
have you let the phone drop below 10-5%?
Flashing screws up the battery indicator (how much depends) and it calibrates itself while in use. Letting the battery fall, or even the phone shut down by itself can speed up the process quite a bit. This helps only if there is no battery hungry app that's eating all your powrz though.
I haven't tried to see if there is an app sucking the life out of it because I never had any issues under the 3 or 4 stock roms and I haven't d/l any other apps. The battery deterioration started instantly I flashed with Darky's. I don't know which gallery it is, it came with the d/l. What ever it is, it doesn't work! No, didn't use the configuration tool.
I must admit I haven't let it run under 10% as I want my phone with me working. But wouldn't this manifest itself when I updated the stock firmwares?
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I haven't tried to see if there is an app sucking the life out of it because I never had any issues under the 3 or 4 stock roms and I haven't d/l any other apps. The battery deterioration started instantly I flashed with Darky's. I don't know which gallery it is, it came with the d/l. What ever it is, it doesn't work! No, didn't use the configuration tool.
I must admit I haven't let it run under 10% as I want my phone with me working. But wouldn't this manifest itself when I updated the stock firmwares?
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ok mate, firstly search the market for the Darky Rom Configurator, shoudl be easy to find, you shoudl be able to reflash without wiping all your apps, run the config app first and pay special attn to the 'Lockscreen wallpaper' of the tool, there aint many options to choose. Got the gallery drain bit mixed up, sorry tired
If i was on my own PC id give a bit more detail but its pretty straight forward.
Im running 9.3 and get a full days mid-heavy use, i normally go to bed at 10-15% which is fine with me
cheers for the advice mate, I've just grabbed the app so I will do the flash in the morning.
I will report back my findings!
Just a thought but Darky's Rom uses JS5 and wondering if has something to do with the modem? Just a theory but wondering if you could replace back to JS7 and see if that helps. Just a thought. I'm used to a day's worth of battery myself these days.
The faster you make the phone go the more power you use darkest Rom are ok but messed with too much
I got really bad battery life for the first few weeks using darky. But now the battery life seems to be longer and more stable and average. I did do calibrations a few times tho.
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You won't get better battery with Darky ever.
I played around quite a lot, 9.2, 9.3, calibration, fresh system, darky rom configurator, different kernels, lagfixes, no matter what, my battery drain was mad. It's a quick and smooth rom, but that's the downside of it.
I switched back to Doc's rom via kithen with same kernel, and quess what? No calibration, no playing around, nothing special I did and battery life is brilliant! Of course it lags here and there, that's Doc's drawback(no lagfix applied tho)
You will often find that if you flash a number of roms you get battery drain . Apart from the actual rom itself you need to flash to a clean firmware reset battery stats use a suitable modem charge battery once using bump charge method then wait a few weeks for it to settle down .
I am using rom kitchin since Darkys killed my battery life months ago .
JPY and JPY modem no complaints about excess battery life .
But i did flash back to clean stock before custom rom and wipe everything .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=817703
jje
but this is true even if i use a kernel mod.. instead of a full flash? i think that a stock rom with custom kernel made for battery lasting is better... or not?
Have u all tried Battery Bump Charging?
Hi, I am not a Galaxy S owner but I am doing a research on this issue for a friend.
I am a Milestone user and I am a ROM slut (I flash many ROMs back and forth)
So I am very familiar with cases where after flashing a new ROM, your 100% fully charged phone is actually 60%/
Here is a posting on a few ways you can do a battery bump charge. When you perform this battery bump charging technique, u will be surprised to see that your 100% fully charged battery is actually not 100%
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978090
The Short Version:
Stock froyo downloaded from Samsung's website- My battery would die at work at around 1600, after being unplugged at 0600. We will say it lasted about 10 hours. With minimal usage, with looking at my battery reports my screen was used for maybe 15-20min.
Post root/Midnight ROM 4.2- it is now about 1600 and I have about 90% battery life left with 22min of screen time being used with obviously minimal usage after 10 hours.
Long version:
I was getting fed up with my battery life on my beloved epic and not being able to use it at all. So I decided to do some research and figure out this rooting and ROM flashing business. I KNEW it was not because of the apps and such that sprint blames the poor battery life on because I would monitor that and not use any at all while at work just to see and prove them wrong. I have the same apps installed post root as I did pre root with the same sync settings.
So in other words it is highly depressing that they put so much crap on this phone stock to kill the battery life with not even being used.
I am so happy now, I can actually use my phone without having to worry about being dead in 2 hours.
Thanks for everyone’s help with my flashing question and thanks for this great website as a resource.
Time to try out some different ROMs!
Sounds to be like your phone might of been fighting for a signal or something, maybe a PRL update would of fixed it... I was getting well over a day with the sprint rom.. and now with ACS Rom I get a little better.. but not much..
anyways.. congrats
Hello All,
I noticed there are a lot of posts regarding Battery Usage & Optimization...
I tried many many combinations of custom roms, basebands and kernels and I always face the same battery problem especially when 3G/MobileData is switched on.
I admit that Sony Ericsson gave us a ****ty stock rom with poor kernel however It's still the best rom in managing battery usage.
I made a small comparison on Stock rom VS Custom roms with 3G/MobileData left switched-on and I found the following:
Custom rom(s): battery drain down very fast it goes for 100% to 1% in less than 8 hours (normal apps installed)
Stock rom: battery lasts for 2-3 days with normal daily phone usage (same apps installed as i did in custom rom)
Please share your opinions.
Thanks,
Ayman
I don't agree at all...
Custom roms can have just as good, if not better, battery life.
I personally think this was a good idea. Nice post and info. Just curious, how long did you do this study with the data you got?
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hey guys, i too have this issue, i dnt know if its device specific. ive had the phone since march(2010) last year and have been modifying it with the great mods that the devs hav given us. everytime i install a custom rom i just get unusual battery drain, like yesterday, i followed instructions to the letter and installed tripnravers miuifroyo 1.0.8 and i lost 10% battery in like 20 minutes n ive hardly used it :-(. so nowadays i stick wiv a modified stock 2.1(ewjet to b exact). im gna buy a new battery and see if i get the same results. i really wna use a custom(2.2+)rom but the battery problems are really putting me off, theres so many people out der that arent really having ny battery drain whcih jus dus my head
Voelker45 said:
I personally think this was a good idea. Nice post and info. Just curious, how long did you do this study with the data you got?
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Thanks Voelker BTW this is my first Thread in XDA, I used to use SE 2.1 stock rom till the first stable Froyo custom rom came out. I switched to Froyo then I started to notice this around 4 months ago and I tried many combination and a lot of optimizations to find out the best one although Stock rom was always better.
@fiscidtox:
I love Foryo and GB much much more than Eclair I currently on CM6 v6 Wolfbreak
Could you please tell me how the battery lasts on your custom rom while MobileData is left switched-on?
Thanks,
Ayman
I get a full day..
If you mean stock with no tweaks then maybe it would last longer, but a lot of that would be not having jit enabled...
sofir786 said:
hey guys, i too have this issue, i dnt know if its device specific. ive had the phone since march(2010) last year and have been modifying it with the great mods that the devs hav given us. everytime i install a custom rom i just get unusual battery drain, like yesterday, i followed instructions to the letter and installed tripnravers miuifroyo 1.0.8 and i lost 10% battery in like 20 minutes n ive hardly used it :-(. so nowadays i stick wiv a modified stock 2.1(ewjet to b exact). im gna buy a new battery and see if i get the same results. i really wna use a custom(2.2+)rom but the battery problems are really putting me off, theres so many people out der that arent really having ny battery drain whcih jus dus my head
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You must be doing something wrong!
10% in 20 mins isn't normal.
I'm sure if you left it settle this would rectify itself though.
I think the biggest advantage of the stock kernel so far is stability, but the ongoing development for the custom kernel is sucessful to implement some problems such as battery drain caused by unability to go into deep sleep etc..
I never understood needing more than 24 hours on a charge. Charge it while you're sleeping you wont be using it then anyway.
Even if you like the 2.1 Stock ROM for any reason (Stability,Battery,etc) and don't like all these awesome 2.2 and 2.3, you should at least use Eric's JET ROM which is based on the original ROM has no stability issues and has faaaaar better battery life.
But seriously, I`m using Custom ROMs since the first 2.2 ROM by Z and never even cared to get back to the stock ROM.
When I use Wifi custom roms have almost the same battery life as the stock rom. But since I can't connect to wifi at work on any custom rom, im forced to use 3g.. and I need to charge my phone twice a day with almost no usage.
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When I use Wifi custom roms have almost the same battery life as the stock rom. But since I can't connect to wifi at work on any custom rom, im forced to use 3g.. and I need to charge my phone twice a day with almost no usage.
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why not only connect to 3g when you are using it?
fiscidtox said:
You must be doing something wrong!
10% in 20 mins isn't normal.
I'm sure if you left it settle this would rectify itself though.
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im pretty sure im doin the steps right, but as u sed leaving it to settle shud help this, im gna buy a new battery nyways and try again. i think the wrong thing im doin is not letting it settle, rather i see the battery drain n i jus end up flashing bak to stock. but i shall give wot u sed a go. thanks
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why not only connect to 3g when you are using it?
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I have it set to switch to 2g when the screen is off (I need it on all the time for IM )
can't wait till gingerbread comes out. if the performance is like the arc then I will just stick with the stock rom.
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im pretty sure im doin the steps right, but as u sed leaving it to settle shud help this, im gna buy a new battery nyways and try again. i think the wrong thing im doin is not letting it settle, rather i see the battery drain n i jus end up flashing bak to stock. but i shall give wot u sed a go. thanks
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Let it settle for at least two days to see improvement.
Your battery needs to adjust, much like letting your phone build a cache, in order to really see how the rom will effect anything.
Im using the stock rom and my battery lasts a maximum of 2 days with this tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=934486
I dont use 3g at all and i use wifi sometimes (session lasts only 10 mins or so)
Brightness is set to "middle" also
Sorry dont agree..
I use wolfbreaks latest rom with the undervolt module.
Juice defender only enables my wifi when i am at home...all other times i have data on with facebook sync.
I now get the same battery life as i did on stock 2.1
Currently I have been unplugged for 1day and 12 hours and I am still at 38%.
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why not only connect to 3g when you are using it?
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3g is useful incase of using Apps such as viber, whatsapp, IM and Gmail as it makes you online and reachable all of the day.
gregbradley said:
Sorry dont agree..
I use wolfbreaks latest rom with the undervolt module.
Juice defender only enables my wifi when i am at home...all other times i have data on with facebook sync.
I now get the same battery life as i did on stock 2.1
Currently I have been unplugged for 1day and 12 hours and I am still at 38%.
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Honestly I didn't try the undervolt module with wolfbreak's rom, I thought It was developed for stock rom only....I'm gonna give it a try and I'll be back to you with the result.
Thanks,
Ayman
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Don't mad at me if I said wrong ................
Why battery life so fast?
- Because all of we are installing( flashing ) every roms that we like......
- The first time when you change your phone's version , that time is not much for your battery....
- But when you flash one after one , it effects on battery life...... you know why?
- Because All of we want to try every rom ( the main problem is we want stable rom for daily use )
-If this rom not stable or get FC want to change another rom... some they don't want to fix that problem including me
-How to fix battery problem?
It's simple
If you have stable rom for daily use , buy New battery (original battery)
and if you want to use for changing rom u use old battery , and you think it's stable rom, put new battery ,,,,,,,
I think I solved battery drain problem
Hit Thanks If I help you
I will 8plain why I say for some almost every roms ..... After I cameback from my work
I can't see the text behind the smiles...
I have a better solution... don't flash a new rom every week, flash one and stick with it.
Also let me be the first ass to say WRONG SECTION!
Pawnty said:
I have a better solution... don't flash a new rom every week, flash one and stick with it.
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Or just stick to it for a couple months then update it. ;D
Also, remove to general section of X10.
This is the most stupid thread i have seen.
Nothing to do with development.
Remove this please,
Interesting use of Smiley faces here...
well man, i don't know if you tried this but... in market there's an app called, battery calibrator, is obvious what it does, isnt it? ok, if you follow its directions you're gonna have a good battery life, sometimes removing battery stats from xrec manually does not work very well, but, if you do it through this app, it works very good, just charge your phone until it gets 100%, click on calibrate (into the app, it removes battery stats), then unplug phone, use it until it drains the whole charge of the battery, i mean until it turns off, if you really needed that calibration, you're gonna realize that the last 10% lasts, foreveeeeeeer, what does it mean? that our phones, never get the true 100%, maybe it gets about, don't know, 90% but, the OS thinks it is fully charged, so it begins to stop charging. When the phone is turned off, charge it (i dont know if turned on or off, i do it off, the app does not say it) until it gets 100%, then turn it on, enjoy.
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This is the most stupid thread i have seen.
Nothing to do with development.
Remove this please,
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Do you think is it the most stupid thread in XDA?
I didn't say this is the best thread in XDA
Even you know how to do this .... Some of our developers are ( new members )
still don't know this problem
Is there something wrong with my 8plaination?
If I'm wrong plz 4give me .......
I want to request forgiveness from you
I just intend for new members who are still don't know about battery life
Do you know why?
Some of deps are thinking that Example: Wolf's rom .... they flash wolf rom
and they feel rom is so fast but battery life very fast finish....
then they think this rom we cannot use because battery life no good
then they changed another rom like Achotjan's rom again....
So ...... battery life is slowly and slowly down after rom and rom......
But they didn't think that because of flashing roms......
Thanks Bro for yours
cool story bro
Troll story bro
brool story co.
-_-
Can we please just close this thread.
any look inside the barterie?
normal bateries from computer handys and .... have a eeprom that save data from!!!!
or you could just wipe your battery stats, and use proper engrish
I think OP shall be best friends forever with Mr Berma, you guys will have a lot of common language together...lol
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brool story co.
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Stool Cory rob
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einet said:
any look inside the barterie?
normal bateries from computer handys and .... have a eeprom that save data from!!!!
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The x10 only has a heat probe and the driving circuits for the cell.
The Chargemon handles the battery statistics by checking current flow and voltage.
Thread Closed
Even you know how to do this .... Some of our developers are ( new members )
still don't know this problem
Is there something wrong with my 8plaination?
If I'm wrong plz 4give me .......
I want to request forgiveness from you
I just intend for new members who are still don't know about battery life
Do you know why?
Some of deps are thinking that Example: Wolf's rom .... they flash wolf rom
and they feel rom is so fast but battery life very fast finish....
then they think this rom we cannot use because battery life no good
then they changed another rom like Achotjan's rom again....
So ...... battery life is slowly and slowly down after rom and rom......
But they didn't think that because of flashing roms......
Thanks Bro for yours [/QUOTE]
Itz truely helpful dude.....
Specially for new members, like me.....
Truely appriciate ur efforts dude...