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i've just received an extended battery (cheap non htc) from ebay for my HD2. But since I placed my order I've heard that some nand roms don't work correctly with this type of battery.
Anybody know what type of problem I might run into with an extended battery, which roms definately don't work with an extended battery and if there are any fixes for the roms that don't work with one?
The only non-working batteries with Android are the HTC original 2300 ones.
Every other battery works fine with NAND.
And I got one of those expensive HTC things....
The only non-working batteries with Android are the HTC original 2300 ones.
Every other battery works fine with NAND.
And I got one of those expensive HTC things....
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Phew! I very nearly bought one, glad i didn't. Saved myself £30 and a whole load of trouble in that case!
die_braut said:
The only non-working batteries with Android are the HTC original 2300 ones.
Every other battery works fine with NAND.
And I got one of those expensive HTC things....
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Confirming this is true for the OP as I do use the 2400mA from Ebay (got it for $13) on NAND, also used it with all SD builds, Non-EB and EB based.
hd2k10 said:
Confirming this is true for the OP as I do use the 2400mA from Ebay (got it for $13) on NAND, also used it with all SD builds, Non-EB and EB based.
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Really? Wow, so you dont notice any issues with overheating when charging or not being able to charge to 100% in the phone?
What sort of battery life do you get? Should be like 35-40hrs right?
I have an ebay 2600mah that I got for $13 which seems awesome but I've only run it in the phone for a short period so far. It even has the back cover with a kickstand. I had to wait a month for it to get here from Singapore and it just got here yesterday.
I've switched to NAND ROMs now but at one point I had an SD build that I was getting 20+hrs battery life out of. I havent really had he chance to fully evaluate the battery life with my NAND builds but so far it looks to be not as good....
I just bought one..ships from Hong Kong..prolly have to wait ~ 3 wks for it arrive.
ive been looking into buying an extended battery recently.
im running android 2.2 nand.
so i wont have any problems with any extended battery?
2400mah? 2600mah?
The word out there is that aftermarket extended batteries - like the 2400mAh work well with NAND. I forked out $10.00 USD, what the hey..they've all gotten decent reviews, and work with NAND.
Apache0c said:
Really? Wow, so you dont notice any issues with overheating when charging or not being able to charge to 100% in the phone?
What sort of battery life do you get? Should be like 35-40hrs right?
I have an ebay 2600mah that I got for $13 which seems awesome but I've only run it in the phone for a short period so far. It even has the back cover with a kickstand. I had to wait a month for it to get here from Singapore and it just got here yesterday.
I've switched to NAND ROMs now but at one point I had an SD build that I was getting 20+hrs battery life out of. I havent really had he chance to fully evaluate the battery life with my NAND builds but so far it looks to be not as good....
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60% better than the stock is what I get, depending on how I use it, I CAN go 2 days easily.
I don't have any heat issues, it gets warm but nothing that seems different than with the stock.
I got the same as you, just 2400mA, comes with the cover and the kickstand, the cover is cheap plastic and pops off easy, it's not a durable and nice as the stock back and the kickstand broke after like 3 uses but oh well, a $13 battery with 60%+ battery life is fine with me.
Keep in mind, when you get your EB, it WILL drain from 100% to 0% and turn off (same as the stock battery) however, when it dies you just take the battery out and put it back in then reboot and it'll have ~60-65% remaining.
In my opinion, NAND and SD have the same battery life, NAND ahead a little bit because it doesn't spike as frequently.
eyeisdasteve said:
ive been looking into buying an extended battery recently.
im running android 2.2 nand.
so i wont have any problems with any extended battery?
2400mah? 2600mah?
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Read above, UNOFFICIAL batteries like Ebay work fine, OFFICIAL (HTC) batteries require an Extended Battery Kernel
Mik0 said:
The word out there is that aftermarket extended batteries - like the 2400mAh work well with NAND. I forked out $10.00 USD, what the hey..they've all gotten decent reviews, and work with NAND.
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Well worth the money =P
--- All of this is based off of hands-on experience, I use the 2400mA Ebay Battery with the cover and kickstand and have been since Late September.
Yeah I bought the cheap one with the kickstand, only took 11 days to reach the UK from hong kong.
No issues so far other than it seemed to drain really quickly from 100% to 79% in about 2 hours with no usage, its been okay from 79% though, dunno if it needed a long 1st charge.
I got the same issues with the HTC extended battery.
Charging / usage is reported wring by NAND kernels, worked OK tho with Hastarin's kernel. On MDJ's kernel it will even shut down at boot-up.
With SD builds when I plug in the phone it shows up as charging extremely fast then after unplugging charge falls also extremely fast to about 70-60% and then drains normally.
Offering as tester if anyone has any idea or beta NAND kernel that might fix this.
By the way in WinMo it charges perfectly and drainage is excellent/normal as advertised, so it's not a battery issue but a kernel support issue.
hd2k10 said:
60% better than the stock is what I get, depending on how I use it, I CAN go 2 days easily.
I don't have any heat issues, it gets warm but nothing that seems different than with the stock.
I got the same as you, just 2400mA, comes with the cover and the kickstand, the cover is cheap plastic and pops off easy, it's not a durable and nice as the stock back and the kickstand broke after like 3 uses but oh well, a $13 battery with 60%+ battery life is fine with me.
Keep in mind, when you get your EB, it WILL drain from 100% to 0% and turn off (same as the stock battery) however, when it dies you just take the battery out and put it back in then reboot and it'll have ~60-65% remaining.
In my opinion, NAND and SD have the same battery life, NAND ahead a little bit because it doesn't spike as frequently.
Read above, UNOFFICIAL batteries like Ebay work fine, OFFICIAL (HTC) batteries require an Extended Battery Kernel
Well worth the money =P
--- All of this is based off of hands-on experience, I use the 2400mA Ebay Battery with the cover and kickstand and have been since Late September.
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Hey, thanks very much for your reply. It is much appreciated.
I'm using the EB now. The back door for it seems lightweight but I cut a hole in the back of a protective case I have for my phone and the whole thing now feels pretty solid.
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Just wanted to report back. I have the $13 Singapore 2600 mah battery and it works with MDJ Cyanogenmod 7 v2.6.
I dont even have to remove and replace the battery for it to work. It's not perfect though, it basically runs down normally (slightly faster than I would like) and lasts a full day getting down to a 15% charge. Then it stays at 15% for another entire day and then discharges normally from there.
With all the progress that has been made on Android for HD2, I feel optimistic that the last several minor bugs will eventually be worked out and the device should function flawlessly.
I dont even have to remove and replace the battery for it to work. It's not perfect though, it basically runs down normally (slightly faster than I would like) and lasts a full day getting down to a 15% charge. Then it stays at 15% for another entire day and then discharges normally from there.
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Yeah I get exactly the same with the cheap EB, dont need to remove the battery but it runs down fairly quickly to 15% then stays at 15% for ages. I have tried a variety of roms both nand & CWM, they all give similar results. Obiously the battery isn't running down very quickly at all, rather it's the way its level is being reported by the OS.
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Found this deal while searching for a deal on batteries for the Fuze. Haven't bought them, usually skeptical about eBay items, especially from China. Figured I'd post a thread with it so if anyone would like to purchase at a low price. States that they're both 1340mAh. If they both work as expected it'd be a great price, but again still skeptical about buying from a Chinese eBayer.
Link to item:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Battery-2x-for-...photoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713.m153.l1262
eBay Seller name: otakugarden
I'm a sucker for a good deal, I took the bait. If/when I get them in I'll report back.
The only deal with that ebay seller for the same thing was for 18.88 total, which is still dirt cheap. So, I took the bait as well. Will report back if no one else does, or if I have a conflicting opinion.
it seems to me fake... i mean it's too cheap
I bought this back in early November, except then it was 2 batteries plus a standalone charger for about $20. They've all worked very well to date.
Blah I took the bait! Toooo cheap not too hmhmh
Kewlj1313
I bought one!
Hope they actually send me two working batteries and it's not some deceptive ad.
I saw this sellers offers on Ebay. I didn't pull the trigger as the last battery I purchased on ebay for my Tilt was a complete rip-off. As they say "if it's too good to be true, then it probably is".
Please let us know your experiences with this seller/batteries.
let me know how this goes, my battery already seems to lose juice quickly
I bit too, hopefully it's not bad.
I also bought the 2 batteries and charger for $20 like Lulugirl. All seem to work well. My only problem is that my Touch Pro doesn't recognise the battery level in the new batteries. So when I put in one of the new batteries, the battery meter on my device shows 0% battery. It still works though. I just use it until the phone turns itself off because of a low battery. Seems to last about as long as the stock OEM battery, but I'd of course prefer to have a warning as to how much battery life I have left.
Lolugirl (or anyone else), have you had this problem? If so, were you able to fix it?
All in all though, they were cheap enough that I am still happy with my purchase, especially since my usage drains the battery in less than a day.
juttonn said:
I also bought the 2 batteries and charger for $20 like Lulugirl. All seem to work well. My only problem is that my Touch Pro doesn't recognise the battery level in the new batteries. So when I put in one of the new batteries, the battery meter on my device shows 0% battery. It still works though. I just use it until the phone turns itself off because of a low battery. Seems to last about as long as the stock OEM battery, but I'd of course prefer to have a warning as to how much battery life I have left.
Lolugirl (or anyone else), have you had this problem? If so, were you able to fix it?
All in all though, they were cheap enough that I am still happy with my purchase, especially since my usage drains the battery in less than a day.
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That's proof that these batteries are fake.
I got the batteries after 2 weeks finally! They both have the same serial number and part number. But the serial and part numbers are different from the factory battery.
I noticed sticker on the battery is less clear than the factory battery I originally had. I will try it out later on my Fuze when I have the time.
I bought the same battery package as lulugirl896 (two generic batteries + standalone charger). They work fine, no problems whatsoever. The reason these batteries are cheap is because they are not OEM (HTC) batteries, but generic no-brand batteries. Since the labels are just copied, the serial numbers on all of these batteries are identical (13XA188P003454).
They are working fine in the original UK Touch Pro and Fuze (pretty much the same capacity as the OEM battery). However people who have CDMA Raphaels (Sprint/Verizon) have been having problems like juttonn described (always shows 0%, or "Battery not recognized").
The battery power seems jumpy. It was at 97% before I shut the power off for the night, then when I turned it on in the morning it was down to around 60%? I ran it for 8 hours on airline mode (the screen was on though), now it's down to 34%. I'll try it for another few days and report back.
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I got the batteries after 2 weeks finally! They both have the same serial number and part number. But the serial and part numbers are different from the factory battery.
I noticed sticker on the battery is less clear than the factory battery I originally had. I will try it out later on my Fuze when I have the time.
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Same here! just got mine yesterday, definitely a fake less clear label with the same serial number hmhm! Haven't tried mine yet either, maybe tonight hopefully they don't kersplode or anything!
JFlitt
Initial tests seem good!
When I first put this battery in straight out of the package it showed up in TBattery as FULL(mAh): 900, but after letting it charge once and then run all the way down and now as you can see from this screen shot it has charged back up again, it is showing the full 1340 mAh so thats good!
This battery lasted all day yesterday in my phone! I am very satisfied, but as stated above it is obviously a fake, the HTC label is a bit blurry and the serial is the same on both batts, but oh well! seems to work well!
Screenshot of new cheap battery:
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Glad to know! But the percentage I see is wrong most of the time. So I just switch batteries every day. My charger has a light to determine if the battery is fully charged or not.
Can anyone confirm that Tbattery fixes the problem with the fake battery? I am am a bit afraid of trying it out since I haven't even hard-spl my device yet and I know it's not an ordinary program.
mine arrived last week and have used both through 3 power cycles and they appear to do drain much quicker than my oem battery. Where do you get TBattery to test? Google doesn't seem to come up with anything.
nevermind: found it. mine says 1340mAh but these batteries definitely drain faster than the OEM. Hopefully after a few more powercycles they will begin to last a little longer. If not, they were still worth the ridiculously low price.
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mine arrived last week and have used both through 3 power cycles and they appear to do drain much quicker than my oem battery. Where do you get TBattery to test? Google doesn't seem to come up with anything.
nevermind: found it. mine says 1340mAh but these batteries definitely drain faster than the OEM. Hopefully after a few more powercycles they will begin to last a little longer. If not, they were still worth the ridiculously low price.
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I noticed after the 2nd and 3rd cycle the battery indicator is more accurate now and not jumping around. I also noticed the same, where they do drain faster than the stock OEM battery.
I have used darkstone froyo, mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense RC1.4 and a few of the earlier android builds. I dont have any issues using them with my stock battery(mattc's 1.4 with sense ran solid) but when I installed my HTC extended battery(2300mah) android would boot to the lock screen, show the loading SD card icon then vibrate and power off. This happened with both darkstone's and mattc's latests builds, reformat and fresh install and still the same issue. Is it possible to support the extended battery? What do you guys think the issue could be?
By the way, the battery works without any issues in WM(ChuckyROM GTX)
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I have used darkstone froyo, mattc Leo + Froyo w/Sense RC1.4 and a few of the earlier android builds. I dont have any issues using them with my stock battery(mattc's 1.4 with sense ran solid) but when I installed my HTC extended battery(2300mah) android would boot to the lock screen, show the loading SD card icon then vibrate and power off. This happened with both darkstone's and mattc's latests builds, reformat and fresh install and still the same issue. Is it possible to support the extended battery? What do you guys think the issue could be?
By the way, the battery works without any issues in WM(ChuckyROM GTX)
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I have already raised a similar issue in another thread.. I have PM'd the DEVS to see if they can shed any light on this.. initially it took a while to realise it was the battery then we noticed there was one common issue.. the battery...
was raised in thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739049
awaiting response from Devs
yes, extended battery 2350 not supported now.
you will got wrong temperature and other values.
support is rather complex however...
I have an extended battery but its the cheap one from eBay and my android boots fine I also have the genuine extended battery and can confirm this does not boot it reads to high a temp and closes down
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This is good to know. I almost bought one yesterday in order to get longer life while running Android. Glad I didn't now. Thanks for the heads up.
I've been using my extended life battery (2400mah, not HTC-brand, just HTC compatible) without problem. Is there a software/chip angle to the HTC brand battery that I don't know about (kind of like with the PSP)?
BTW, the HTC-compatible external I got lasts longer than my friend's HTC batt and cost less. Just not with as shiny/pretty a cover as the HTC one.
Well today I received my genuine HTC Extended battery and was very surprised and dissapointed when I noticed that suddenly Android didn't work anymore. A quick search led me to this thread. Since the problem seems to be temperature related I decided to isolate the thermic sensor terminal on the battery with a piece of tape... and guess what... I can now load Android with the extended battery inserted!! Have a look at the picture...
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A little bit of warning though... when charging the battery in the phone it will now be without temp monitoring so please don't charge it unattended.
Other than that I think this can be considered a temporary solution until the devs have figured out how to boot Android with these fine batteries.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
WoW thanks tubgirl really does work now i can enjoy android without reservations about battery!!
P.S: charging doesnt work, the led just blinks and charging icon does not show
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Well today I received my genuine HTC Extended battery and was very surprised and dissapointed when I noticed that suddenly Android didn't work anymore. A quick search led me to this thread. Since the problem seems to be temperature related I decided to isolate the thermic sensor terminal on the battery with a piece of tape... and guess what... I can now load Android with the extended battery inserted!! Have a look at the picture...
A little bit of warning though... when charging the battery in the phone it will now be without temp monitoring so please don't charge it unattended.
Other than that I think this can be considered a temporary solution until the devs have figured out how to boot Android with these fine batteries.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Thanks for a solution!!
EDIT: I left the phone charging during the night and in the morning was dead. Don´t change.
Anyway, nice try.
Tubgirl said:
Well today I received my genuine HTC Extended battery and was very surprised and dissapointed when I noticed that suddenly Android didn't work anymore. A quick search led me to this thread. Since the problem seems to be temperature related I decided to isolate the thermic sensor terminal on the battery with a piece of tape... and guess what... I can now load Android with the extended battery inserted!! Have a look at the picture...
A little bit of warning though... when charging the battery in the phone it will now be without temp monitoring so please don't charge it unattended.
Other than that I think this can be considered a temporary solution until the devs have figured out how to boot Android with these fine batteries.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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I am glad you have given that warning to people else you will be surprise how many people will blame u for burnt alot of stuff
fobfusion said:
WoW thanks tubgirl really does work now i can enjoy android without reservations about battery!!
P.S: charging doesnt work, the led just blinks and charging icon does not show
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I think the green and red blinking means that it's charging slower than normal (which is actually better for the battery). In any case it seems like it's charging normally when in Android.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
even though the charging icon is on... i confirmed its not charging. Nice attempt though!
Yes you're right. I also noticed that it isn't charging at all. Too bad... lets hope there will be a way in the future to use the extended battery with Android without having to put tape on and off all the time to be able to charge
Another thing I noticed yesterday when trying to boot Android with the extended battery was that I never got the WSOD while trying... I always reached the Android lock screen before it shut down and never got the WSOD (White Screen Of Death). Then when I put on a piece of tape the first thing I got was a WSOD. It took me a couple of tries before I managed to boot Android correctly with the extended (taped) battery.
This leads me to believe that maybe the WSOD is related to the battery temp reading somehow... what do you think? How to report this to the devs? Will they read this?
Brgds... /Tubgirl
Hehe... instead of tape i put a thin piece of plastic strip between the affected pin and battery terminal. After a couple of minutes inside Android I pulled the plastic strip away. I was hoping that maybe the battery temp was only checked during startup but unfortunately after a couple of seconds the phone vibrated and shut off itself. Well well... it was worth a try.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
Here I thought I had gone crazy... Had flashed ROM's, Radio's etc and was thinking my device was some how "special."
It is a shame too, as I think the extended battery would get us through a day of Android use. Maybe the devs need us to get some numbers or readings from our batteries?
I noticed today when my firend had his EVO 4G apart that the battery was almost the same size. I test fit it into my Dinc and IT FITS. The EVO battery is about 2mm thicker but the stock Dinc back case still snaps on the back (although tighter than with the stock battery).
Dinc capacity 1300mah, EVO 1500mah.
So for anybody that wants to squeeze a little more juice out of their phone while still being compact skinny this is the perfect solution!
HTC HD2 battery also fits and it's 1500mah as well...I think it's just an HTC OEM.
And the, now old, TP2 battery (which is also 1500mah, got it for like $15 online), and the Eris battery (same size though).
This is nice to hear, as I run down my Inc's battery very quickly every day. Although I think seeing a battery that was NOT bright red in my phone would be strange now lol. Is the Evo's battery red too? I know the TP2's is not.
EVO Battery
You can get 2 EVO batteries and a ext charger on ebay for 10 bucks.
I have ordered one. I will post back with results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-1500mAh-batt...Accessories&hash=item3a5b690056#ht_2016wt_955
Looks nice! Especially the dock charger. I would love to not ever have to plug in my phone and be able to just swap batteries with the dock charger.
Please let us know how it all turns out including how well the dock charger handles the charging (especially when you leave the battery on the charger for longer than needed.)
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nixon7606 said:
You can get 2 EVO batteries and a ext charger on ebay for 10 bucks.
I have ordered one. I will post back with results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-1500mAh-batt...Accessories&hash=item3a5b690056#ht_2016wt_955
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Be careful with those knock off batteries...
nixon7606 said:
You can get 2 EVO batteries and a ext charger on ebay for 10 bucks.
I have ordered one. I will post back with results.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x-1500mAh-batt...Accessories&hash=item3a5b690056#ht_2016wt_955
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hong kong knockoffs, nuff said.
llaufhutte said:
This is nice to hear, as I run down my Inc's battery very quickly every day. Although I think seeing a battery that was NOT bright red in my phone would be strange now lol. Is the Evo's battery red too? I know the TP2's is not.
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Yup the EVO 4G battery is the same bright red as ours so it matches too
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This is REALLY good to know! Thank You!
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Yup the EVO 4G battery is the same bright red as ours so it matches too
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Excellent I may be buying an EVO battery or two. I could really use the extra juice and the extended life batteries make the phone feel way too big.
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If you are going to order a battery why not just get the Seidio 1750 mAh battery? Same size as stock, bigger capacity. I wouldn't say it is life changing, but it definitely helps get me through the day.
http://store.androidcentral.com/seidio-innocell-1750mah-extended-battery/8A37A6399.htm
fastandlight said:
If you are going to order a battery why not just get the Seidio 1750 mAh battery? Same size as stock, bigger capacity. I wouldn't say it is life changing, but it definitely helps get me through the day.
http://store.androidcentral.com/seidio-innocell-1750mah-extended-battery/8A37A6399.htm
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The Seidio 1750mAh battery has been tested several times to actually be a 1500mAh battery... I'd stick with OEM over third party.
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i saw this post last week.. and ordered an Evo battery for $20 from Amazon. It fits,, i am not going to say it fits perfectly.. but i use a skin i use to protect my incredible so.. it doesnt make any difference for me.. i did a full charge.. and i definitely got 2 hours more with heavy use.. and i think its similar or better than the 1750mah battery...
I've been using an EVO 1500 battery as well as the Seidio 1750 battery, and I can honestly say that I get much better battery with the Seidio 1750 battery. I know that the tests (or test, batteryboss only really tested one battery) out there say it's not as good as what a 1750 mAh battery is supposed to be, but I know that I've gotten better battery life out of it than both the stock 1300 and the EVO 1500. It's also a smidgen smaller than the EVO 1500, so it fits a little bit better in the phone.
Berzerker7 said:
I've been using an EVO 1500 battery as well as the Seidio 1750 battery, and I can honestly say that I get much better battery with the Seidio 1750 battery. I know that the tests (or test, batteryboss only really tested one battery) out there say it's not as good as what a 1750 mAh battery is supposed to be, but I know that I've gotten better battery life out of it than both the stock 1300 and the EVO 1500. It's also a smidgen smaller than the EVO 1500, so it fits a little bit better in the phone.
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Battery boss isnt the only one who tested it. There was someone over on androidforums who tested the batteries out and the 1750 actually came out to less the the 1500s. The 1500s on the other hand (oem ones) actually were all pretty consistent.
I personally wouldnt pay the extra money to get what may "seem" like slightly better battery life. My $10 1500 serves me fine.
Dont take this as a criticism though, if you feel youre getting more on the 1750 then the 1500 then more power to you. I just wanted to put this information out there.
Does using an EVO battery or HD2,etc affect the Droid Incredible negatively in any way? i.e. differences in voltage, or some other feature that comes from using batteries not made for the phone? Or is it pretty much a one-size-fits-all deal where as long as the battery fits physically it doesn't matter. (i.e. will using a different battery void any warranties?)
Thanks!
I bought knock off batteries from China and loved them but the temperatures reported wrong
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FWIW, I purchased a charger that looks identical to this one (from CellphoneShop.net http://www.cellphoneshop.net/pro2desktop.html) and it works great! The light strip across the top goes from red to blue once it is fully charged. I have the stock battery plus a 2150Ma, so I just switch them out when I go to bed and the 2150 is ready to go in the morning when I leave for work. Another bonus to this type of charger is that it doesn't stress your USB port. I've had a few phones that I had to return because the port stopped charging/got loose and you had to fiddle with it. I for one like to leave the port for fun stuff like ADB or copying new ROMs to flash!
Take it easy!
So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p, used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background. I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen time. My phone stays relatively cool unless I'm playing a lot of games or watching a lot of videos on YouTube. I have a handful of xposed plugins (Amplify, GravityBox, Greenify, NougatNavigation Bar (I like the solid icons rather than the lines that comes with stock N) and Status Bar Cleanup).
Anyone think I should get a new battery? Not under warranty, so I can't do anything via that route.
Also, is eBay a good enough place to find a replacement battery as long as I make sure it's not a counterfeit?
Thanks everyone for any help.
Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.
Moppusan said:
So, it seems like my battery isn't quite behaving itself. I've turned of Moto Display, underclock GPU to 300mhz, and switched to 1080p instead of 1440p,
It doesn't make difference - restore default,
used Amplify to control wakelocks and Greenify to hibernate things that like to run in the background.
Doesn't work good on Nougat - you can use "background permission setter" app & "link2sd" for disable some apps
I have never gotten more than about 1hr30min of screen
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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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Look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/help/strange-battery-behavior-following-t3716055
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Standard is ~3-4 hours of SOT with any rom or kernel.
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I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...
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Can you be more specific what you mean by your battery not behaving itself? Random shut down or at any particular battery level? Sudden drop off battery percentage ofb10% or more shortly after charger disconnect? Has the unusual battery occurred after any specific updates to any of your apps? Have you tried a factory reset (I know it's painful but it does help on occasion)? Just throwing it out there.
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Quite a few times my battery would drop ~5-6% just after I remove it from the charger (regular USB power, not the turbo charger). I have tried a factory once and I let the battery do the "break in" period just to see if the battery was calibrated or not. So far it seems it is calibrated...I've also tried draining the battery until it my it shuts off, then using the turbo charger and letting it sit for like ~8 hours (I forget where I saw that specific bit of advice. It was in response to someone else posting...I don't even remember where. Possibly XDA, not 100% sure).
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I found my capacity to be 3034mAh...which is....quite odd. My battery isn't even fully charged.
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I rarely ever got 3 hours... GSAM's average SOT over time was about 2h 20m... Although I did have occasional instances with 4 hours (on WiFi, reading, at night, very low drainage usage). Not really the point though
Should you replace the battery, well, from what you say it sounds like it is due... The real problem is getting a quality replacement. You can find a ton of them on eBay or other online markets, but most users here will tell you that you can't get an OEM battery any more no matter what the seller says, they just don't exist, and most of the ones that state "new" are just knock-offs or batteries for other devices that are re-purposed (and often of lower capacity). There is a serious market for cell phone batteries, and there are lots of counterfeits out and just out-right lies there, so the real problem is getting a good replacement battery. It is literally luck...
Remember, this device is 2.5 years old... Meaning most batteries for it were likely made prior to that. Although I paint a gloomy picture (it is a bit gloomy) there has to be some decent ones out there, but expect to pay $20+ and it will still be a crap shoot. Remember that when replacing the battery in this device, it isn't the easiest so do your homework. You will likely want a new back cover assembly (door and adhesive) as well because a good majority of the time they get destroyed when performing the operation.
Oh, and before you go down this road I suggest wiping your device... everything... and set it back up with the absolute bare minimum stuff (don't install anything if possible) for a couple days and retest your SOT. Not saying that's the case here, but Nougat's battery/app management is pretty good and we have seen more and more tales of things like Greenify/Amplify and other tweaks for helping battery life having the opposite effect, with some people noting the more they try to tweak it the worse it gets. Just a thought...
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I actually tried to replace the battery once and I did such a terrible job that I ruined the contact points on the ribbon that connects to the main board. I wish I could get a new phone (like a Pixel 2) but I have nowhere near enough income or funds set aside for that. Maybe later this year...hopefully...and not necessarily a Pixel 2 but something that runs very close to stock AOSP. I would definitely miss the 2 front facing speakers on anything else. I saw ZTE Axon 7 and the Razer phone has them too...but no idea how close they are to stock AOSP. Maybe I'll take the plunge into flashing the stock Nougat images and let it be naked for a few days. That sure would be annoying...but if it helps my MXPE survive in good shape until I can afford another phone I'm all in.
Thanks everyone for the help! I'll look into my options and hopefully I can get a bit more time out of this phone until I can afford a newer one that doesn't have the stupid Snapdragon 808. I shake my fist at thee, battery hog!
I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.
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I'm on Nougat stock and I keep getting battery down at 25-35% regularely. I can see that when I put phone in charge after it shuts down percentage charge numbers start where power down happened at 25-35% Tried a battery calibrate weeks ago with a play store app. At first looked like it got fixed but just for a day or so and back with same problem. Also SoT is terrible, getting max 1h and if i do a heavy use even less and I dont even use social media at all. No idea if its a dead battery or software problem seeing I was on custom rom before i reverted back on stock nougat. Waiting for a decent Nougat modem stock Rom to try it once again to see if a difference or not.
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"Battery calibration" apps don't work... The proper way to "recalibrate" a battery in modern Moto devices is https://motorola-global-en-uk.custh...moto-g4-g4-plus/topic/battery/battery-reset/1
Honestly, if this does nothing, try a cache wipe, and if that doesn't help do a factory reset. If that fails as well, then the battery is likely beyond it's useful life (becoming more and more common lately) and will need to be replaced if you can find a quality replacement. There is no "trick" to getting the battery back.
It seems these batteries were engineered for 18-24 months of life and that is about it, as most modern devices themselves are only intended for a max of 24 months of usable life anyway... They sure seem to drop off significantly in charge capacity after that point.
Try this app? AccuBattery
After a couple of charge cycles it shows my battery at 89% of max. My manufacture date is 11-16-2016, so just over a year old. Of course, the battery could have been made before then by some months, I don't know.
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Anyone know where i can get the battery replaced on the Axon 7 in the UK? My battery drains too quickly and does not last a day. Ive looked at the videos on Youtube and it looks tricky to replace the battery. I love my Axon 7 especially the front facing speakers.
I replaced mine a few days ago. It's one of the easiest battery replacements I've ever done. It's very easy. Just make sure you have the proper tools
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Anyone know where i can get the battery replaced on the Axon 7 in the UK? My battery drains too quickly and does not last a day. Ive looked at the videos on Youtube and it looks tricky to replace the battery. I love my Axon 7 especially the front facing speakers.
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If you look up in Amazon as I can not post the link:
"Cameron Sino 3100mAh Li-Polymer Replacement Battery for ZTE Axon 7"
Just be careful when disconnecting the ribbons and carefully removing the battery from the screen as mine took a lot of finesse and some heat to pry it loose. I now have a great battery but now have no home and back button after attempting to repair many times. Luckily there is an app you can use to at least make my phone usable again.
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If you look up in Amazon as I can not post the link:
"Cameron Sino 3100mAh Li-Polymer Replacement Battery for ZTE Axon 7"
Just be careful when disconnecting the ribbons and carefully removing the battery from the screen as mine took a lot of finesse and some heat to pry it loose. I now have a great battery but now have no home and back button after attempting to repair many times. Luckily there is an app you can use to at least make my phone usable again.
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how did you break those? The ribbon for the buttons is on the other side of the frame... are you sure your screen ribbon is well connected?
Have you tried pushing on the screen roughly where the volume buttons are located, to see if it gets reseated? It's weird that the screen works but it might be just that
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how did you break those? The ribbon for the buttons is on the other side of the frame... are you sure your screen ribbon is well connected?
Have you tried pushing on the screen roughly where the volume buttons are located, to see if it gets reseated? It's weird that the screen works but it might be just that
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I took the phone apart 4 times ensuring the ribbons were well connected hoping that may have been the culprit. Also took the battery out each time, applied pressure all around the screen which makes me think I might have shorted out something. Strange though the right button still works, just the home and back button not functioning.
And this, folks, is exactly why you shouldn't be dissasembling phones unless you're very skilled with with electronics repair. You forget to connect a cable or w/e, then post here with complaints. I'm not physically well coordinated, my hands lack the fine motor skills and dexterity to work with small parts. If I have electronics hardware I need worked on, I take them to a friend's shop and he does the work for a small fee. I get everything back knowing the job is done right.
Hi Karl,
I have pretty basic electronic skills, and I found the battery replacement pretty easy.
There are plenty of guides on youtube, and as long as you have a decent toolkit--spudger, flat metal pry tool, correct sized bits--it should be an easy thing to do.
One step to watch out for is at the beginning; you need a hair dryer/heat gun to loosen the plastic bezels at the top/bottom of the front face. Be careful applying too much heat. My top bezel has a small bend divot from where it got too soft and bent when I removed it.
Just go slow and take your time; I think my take apart and reassembly was just over 30 minutes.
Good luck!
Are you sure that the battery is really the reason?
When I switched to the last LOS 15.1 ROM a few month ago, I noticed a rapid decrease of battery time.
And also the latest version of the imgur-app drains the battery extremely - if active, the battery only lasts for about 4 hours.
(I constantly force-quit it to get over half a day)
seliqui said:
Are you sure that the battery is really the reason?
When I switched to the last LOS 15.1 ROM a few month ago, I noticed a rapid decrease of battery time.
And also the latest version of the imgur-app drains the battery extremely - if active, the battery only lasts for about 4 hours.
(I constantly force-quit it to get over half a day)
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same here,and more users report it.Its not the issue from battery hardware
seliqui said:
Are you sure that the battery is really the reason?
When I switched to the last LOS 15.1 ROM a few month ago, I noticed a rapid decrease of battery time.
And also the latest version of the imgur-app drains the battery extremely - if active, the battery only lasts for about 4 hours.
(I constantly force-quit it to get over half a day)
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that's the kernel, it's probably not too optimized - but it's not necessarily the only reason! If you set up a decent ROM with a good kernel like one of Kran's EAS kernels and still get bad battery life, then you can bet it's the battery (you still don't need to - run Accubattery, let it log for about 3 days, then check the capacity estimate).
I honestly don't know or care about the persist stuff because I've gone through roughly the same ROMs than these guys here and have no such trouble. But I won't deny it
Btw if you get a fast discharge of a couple % after disconnecting the phone or your phone shuts down unexpectedly at 10/20/30%, those are telltale signs of battery degradation.
Introducing too many variables can confuse the issue.
I've been on the same rom since 9/2017 - RR 14.x based. I used to go 2 days between charges, now it's 1 day. Usage hasn't change all that much. I have a battery on order. I'd also like to update to 15.1. Goal is not to do any upgrading until at least a week or two after installing the new battery. Otherwise, existing SoT and battery usage numbers will have little value.
Of course, it's a good idea to perform a backup (twrp/titaniuam) for anyone replacing the battery just in case something goes wrong along the way and your phone turns into a brick.
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that's the kernel, it's probably not too optimized - but it's not necessarily the only reason! If you set up a decent ROM with a good kernel like one of Kran's EAS kernels and still get bad battery life, then you can bet it's the battery (you still don't need to - run Accubattery, let it log for about 3 days, then check the capacity estimate).
I honestly don't know or care about the persist stuff because I've gone through roughly the same ROMs than these guys here and have no such trouble. But I won't deny it
Btw if you get a fast discharge of a couple % after disconnecting the phone or your phone shuts down unexpectedly at 10/20/30%, those are telltale signs of battery degradation.
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Latest LOS 15.1 Unofficial fix this for me. Maybe dev make better the kernel now.
Hello,
Speaker grills can be bought on Ali... easily so no problem at all for battery replacement BTW. you can buy original ZTE battery on Ali too.
nays_pl said:
Hello,
Speaker grills can be bought on Ali... easily so no problem at all for battery replacement BTW. you can buy original ZTE battery on Ali too.
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You think there's much difference between an oem and third party battery? I'm only two charges in on the cameron sino, but still showing about 2700 mAh with accubattery. Tempted to get one of those usb amp meters to see what it's really taking in.
So far 3 full charges (1-2% to 100%). Accubattery still showing ~2650-2700 mAh capacity.
Actual use seems to be restored. Note the pic below.
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Hello,
Speaker grills can be bought on Ali... easily so no problem at all for battery replacement BTW. you can buy original ZTE battery on Ali too.
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point is, there is pretty much no way to know whether the battery you are buying is original or not. many bought the original looking ones and they have the font slightly off, knockoff-like... Which doesn't matter anyways because they perform just as good (or bad?) as a new OEM battery.
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So far 3 full charges (1-2% to 100%). Accubattery still showing ~2650-2700 mAh capacity.
Actual use seems to be restored. Note the pic below.
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well, you could claim a bad battery if that's the case. 2700 mAh is just dead
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well, you could claim a bad battery if that's the case. 2700 mAh is just dead
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Past use wasn't quite the same. I'd typically recharge around 40% (to 100%). Getting to 40% would take less than a day. So there's definitely more life to it. Going 2 days between charges would be satisfactory.
I'll give it another full cycle to see how it's doing. Not sure another battery would make a significant difference. Seller might offer an exchange but is it really worth the hassle.........
gpz1100 said:
Past use wasn't quite the same. I'd typically recharge around 40% (to 100%). Getting to 40% would take less than a day. So there's definitely more life to it. Going 2 days between charges would be satisfactory.
I'll give it another full cycle to see how it's doing. Not sure another battery would make a significant difference. Seller might offer an exchange but is it really worth the hassle.........
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you don't get it entirely. If that battery really has 2700 mAh, its capacity is about to fall off a cliff, and your phone will start having early shutdowns whenever you give it any load. that's pretty much how it works with lithium, it is advised to change the battery when it is at 80% capacity since it'll start behaving like crap in no time
Our batteries probably have a newer/better chemistry than those on the picture (they are charged at 4.4V), but the concept is the same.
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you don't get it entirely. If that battery really has 2700 mAh, its capacity is about to fall off a cliff, and your phone will start having early shutdowns whenever you give it any load. that's pretty much how it works with lithium, it is advised to change the battery when it is at 80% capacity since it'll start behaving like crap in no time
Our batteries probably have a newer/better chemistry than those on the picture (they are charged at 4.4V), but the concept is the same.
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Accubattery indicated ~2000/2100 mAh for the old battery. In terms of actual use I'd be at ~30% by the end of the day with my typical use. Phone never shut down/rebooted. I don't play games or run cpu benchmarks. Probably the most intensive activity would be creating twrp backups with compression, titaniumbackups, playing youtube (hd), or running speed tests (symmetrical gigabit network). We'll see how the phone works after a month. This was an ebay/paypal transaction so there's 180 days to make any sort of claim on it. It's a $16 battery - If I'm able to go two days between charges like I used to, I'll be a happy camper regardless what the app says. I do have one of those KEWEISI amp meters on order so it'll be interesting how that compares to the app.
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Accubattery indicated ~2000/2100 mAh for the old battery. In terms of actual use I'd be at ~30% by the end of the day with my typical use. Phone never shut down/rebooted. I don't play games or run cpu benchmarks. Probably the most intensive activity would be creating twrp backups with compression, titaniumbackups, playing youtube (hd), or running speed tests (symmetrical gigabit network). We'll see how the phone works after a month. This was an ebay/paypal transaction so there's 180 days to make any sort of claim on it. It's a $16 battery - If I'm able to go two days between charges like I used to, I'll be a happy camper regardless what the app says. I do have one of those KEWEISI amp meters on order so it'll be interesting how that compares to the app.
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that's weird. if anything i can tell you i had lots of shutdowns when my battery was at 2500 mAh, and people around here are using batteries around the same capacity with the same problems.
But it's possible that you just don't abuse it that much, I'm talking about 100% CPU usage, for example taking an HDR+ enhanced pic with GCam (CPU pegged, 10+ pictures snapped in a second). there was no way to do that with less than 30% battery, it shut down immediately.
still, i guess you saw the graph. Please tell me how it goes with the charge counter, it might just be that Accubattery is off by ~400 mAh and that's why you didn't get nearly as much trouble with the older battery.