My grandson is about to receive an eLocity A7 and we have been told he would have to download/install recent firmware updates.
#1- Is this a difficult procedure for a 12 year old to do?
#2- We also learn there have been two firmware updates: Version 2.0121 and then Version 2.0124. Is that true?
#3- If he has an older firmware version on his unit, will he have to download both of these updates? Of will he need to download/install the latest one (2.0124) and that would contain all updates in previous version updates?
Please advise soonest and thank you for your help.
Alice
1. It is not difficult. Manual is there - http://elocitynow.com/support_downloads.shtml
You must learn two important things:
- copy update.zip to root directory at sd-card (and do not unpack it)
- plug in ac-adapter (if charge < 50% and ac-adapter does not used, device may turn off while update process is running -> it can brick device).
2. Yeah. It's true. 2.0124 last...
3. I think update 2.0124 contains all previous updates, cause Stream TV Networks posted their updates at same place...
You cann't find update 2.0121 at official site.
Hi Alicez,
Here's the link to the firmware updates page from eLocity/stream networks.
http://www.elocitynow.com/support_downloads.shtml
This provides the details on downloading and installing the update(s).
You should only need to run the latest update which will include previous patches.
This isn't too difficult, but you may want to supervise just in case.
Also, you will need a MicroSD Card to load the update file(s), in case you don't already have one.
While it is not necessary to run the updates before using the tablet. However, it is highly recommended for optimum performance. It is also worth noting that when you apply updates, you should perform a factory reset on the device before updating (unless its brand new of course). So if you do intend on running the updates, I suggest you do so, prior to using it too much otherwise you will loose your personal settings/data during the update.
Also to gain access to the Google Market, Gmail, G-Maps, etc. you will want to think about applying the DexterMod
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042)
NOTE - the "DexterMod" is not supported by Stream/eLocity.
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- plug in ac-adapter (if charge < 50% and ac-adapter does not used, device may turn off while update process is running -> it can brick device). .
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Thank you very much for your answer.
I am sorry, but I do not understand the above.
Do you mean I should charge the eLocity A7 COMPLETELY before I input the SD card (with the 2.0124 download on it) ?
Or, should I keep the AC power cord plugged into the wall socket after I input the SD card?
Thank you.
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Hi Alicez,
While it is not necessary to run the updates before using the tablet. However, it is highly recommended for optimum performance. It is also worth noting that when you apply updates, you should perform a factory reset on the device before updating (unless its brand new of course). So if you do intend on running the updates, I suggest you do so, prior to using it too much otherwise you will loose your personal settings/data during the update.
Also to gain access to the Google Market, Gmail, G-Maps, etc. you will want to think about applying the DexterMod
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042)
NOTE - the "DexterMod" is not supported by Stream/eLocity.
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Thank you.
#1- I am a bit confused about the above "perform a factory reset."
What is that? Would that reset the unit to the factory settings that originally came with the unit? I would not have to do that since we have not received the tablet as yet. Do you suggest that as soon as we unpack it, we perform the update of the new Version 2.0124 version? Not doing "factory reset?"
BTW:
#2- What is: Google Market, etc.? DexterMod? Remember, we are completely new to all of this.
#3- Will he be able to watch YouTube Videos and access AOL (free email) and Hotmail on the unit right "out of the box?"
alicez said:
Do you mean I should charge the eLocity A7 COMPLETELY before I input the SD card (with the 2.0124 download on it) ?
Or, should I keep the AC power cord plugged into the wall socket after I input the SD card?
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Stream TV Networks strongly recommends keep the AC power cord plugged into the wall socket before input the sd card and start update
But it's not necessary if charge is more than 50%. This limit isn't accurate, it may be 60%, 75% or anything more... Just notice, if you does not using AC adapter and charge equals 20% (30%, 40%) - you may face with problems, so should charge to 50%+ or stay charged.
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Stream TV Networks strongly recommends keep the AC power cord plugged into the wall socket before input the sd card and start update
But it's not necessary if charge is more than 50%. This limit isn't accurate, it may be 60%, 75% or anything more... Just notice, if you does not using AC adapter and charge equals 20% (30%, 40%) - you may face with problems, so should charge to 50%+ or stay charged.
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Thank you.
#1- The "Update.zip" file (93MB - big file!) on the SD card should be put into the 'slot' on the eLocity just as it is. Correct? No other files on the SD card.
#2- Then the 'Update.zip" will be unzipped by the eLocity and AUTOMATICALLY installed to the eLocity. Corret?
alicez said:
Thank you.
#1- The "Update.zip" file (93MB - big file!) on the SD card should be put into the 'slot' on the eLocity just as it is. Correct? No other files on the SD card.
#2- Then the 'Update.zip" will be unzipped by the eLocity and AUTOMATICALLY installed to the eLocity. Corret?
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Once the "Update.zip" file is your MicroSD card and in you device do the fallowing to run the update:
Go to "settings"
Scrool down and click "about device"
Click the first option "system update"
let it update (this will take some time)
Note: The device my go into a "boot loop" if so just push and hold the power button for 15 to 20 seconds to force it to turn off. Then turn it on again and it should boot normally.
Does this eLocitiy play YouTube videos (right out of the box)?
My grandson really likes watch those videos, but somebody said 'tablets' do NOT play all YouTube videos.
Please advise soonest because if it doesn't play YouTube videos, I will have to return.
Hi ALicez,
A factory reset is just as you stated, "a reset to factory settings", this would revert the firmware (updates, if you have any) back to what the tablet came pre-installed with.
As 5[Strogino] states you will want to charge up the tablet before doing the update, and leave it plugged in during the update process (which can take approx 10mins or more). I would go ahead and get familiar with the tablet and its menus, functions, etc. before running the update, just so you know what you're dealing with.
As 5[Strogino] states, once you run the update the tablet should do the rest (unpacking the zip file, etc).
Regarding the Google Market, this is one of the main features of the Android OS, which allows you to download and install applications from various vendors, many are free and some are for a small cost (usually $1-$3). Almost all tablets currently for sale do not have the Android/Google market pre-installed as Google has set very strict requirements for allowing this application to be pre-installed (mostly cell phones have this). Fortunately, many in the development community (such as Dexter and his Mod) have created update files that provide this application and all its glory to these tablets.
As far as using the tablet without the market, yes you absolutely can. The internet browser is 100% functional and HAS full adobe flash pre-installed, which many other tablets do not have. So, yes you can check email, watch videos, etc with no additional modifications. I will say that many popular websites and email providers have "Apps" available on the Android/Google Market that make checking email faster and easier (such as not having to use the browser to access email, and allowing for login/credential saving). So in my opinion, it is worth the extra effort to install the DexterMod which will provide these goodies. Installing the DexterMod is just as easy as installing an update. Hope this helps!
And yes there are some sites and videos that either do not play at all or play correctly. You Tube should be fine, Hulu does not work, but sites such as ComedyCentral work just fine for me. Also many sites such as You Tube have Apps in the Google Market to aid in this effort. Unfortunately though video is more dependent on the content (video) providers website development and architecture (optimized for mobile, etc.) than the tablet itself.
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Hi ALicez,
A factory reset is just as you stated, "a reset to factory settings", this would revert the firmware (updates, if you have any) back to what the tablet came pre-installed with.
As 5[Strogino] states you will want to charge up the tablet before doing the update, and leave it plugged in during the update process (which can take approx 10mins or more). I would go ahead and get familiar with the tablet and its menus, functions, etc. before running the update, just so you know what you're dealing with.
As 5[Strogino] states, once you run the update the tablet should do the rest (unpacking the zip file, etc).
Regarding the Google Market, this is one of the main features of the Android OS, which allows you to download and install applications from various vendors, many are free and some are for a small cost (usually $1-$3). Almost all tablets currently for sale do not have the Android/Google market pre-installed as Google has set very strict requirements for allowing this application to be pre-installed (mostly cell phones have this). Fortunately, many in the development community (such as Dexter and his Mod) have created update files that provide this application and all its glory to these tablets.
As far as using the tablet without the market, yes you absolutely can. The internet browser is 100% functional and HAS full adobe flash pre-installed, which many other tablets do not have. So, yes you can check email, watch videos, etc with no additional modifications. I will say that many popular websites and email providers have "Apps" available on the Android/Google Market that make checking email faster and easier (such as not having to use the browser to access email, and allowing for login/credential saving). So in my opinion, it is worth the extra effort to install the DexterMod which will provide these goodies. Installing the DexterMod is just as easy as installing an update. Hope this helps!
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Thank you.
How do we get GoogleMarket? Or if not possible, how do we get the DexterMod, so we can download free apps? Are these free items, etc. Can my grandson do the downloading by himself, or is it difficult?
alicez said:
Does this eLocitiy play YouTube videos (right out of the box)?
My grandson really likes watch those videos, but somebody said 'tablets' do NOT play all YouTube videos.
Please advise soonest because if it doesn't play YouTube videos, I will have to return.
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Yes, absolutely.
There is a YouTube app that allows you to view YouTube videos. You can also go directly to YouTube.com with the browser and play videos just like on your computer.
Can someone answer my question in #12 above:
"How do we get GoogleMarket? Or if not possible, how do we get the DexterMod, so we can download free apps? Are these free items, etc."
This unit already has "Getjar" apps. Is that the same as GoogleMarket? Or do I still need GoogleMarket? Please advise as we are new at this and I am trying to get this set-up so my grandson can use it to it's fullest potential.
Thanks
Alice
alicez said:
Can someone answer my question in #12 above:
"How do we get GoogleMarket? Or if not possible, how do we get the DexterMod, so we can download free apps? Are these free items, etc."
This unit already has "Getjar" apps. Is that the same as GoogleMarket? Or do I still need GoogleMarket? Please advise as we are new at this and I am trying to get this set-up so my grandson can use it to it's fullest potential.
Thanks
Alice
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Getjar is an "App Market" of sorts that come with the A7. Google MArket is a superior Market and easier to use. I would recomend installing the DexterMod that already has the Google Market and Google apps preinstalled.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042
download the ElocityMod v1.1 and install the same as you would the official eLocity update. You have to rename it from "ElocityModv11.zip" to "Update.zip" prior to installing.
ElocityMod v1.1 is basically the Official eLocity update with the Google Market and Google Apps already added.
dexter mod
http://dext3r.komodin.org/
Here is the dexter mod link. About mid way down on the page you will find the elocity a7 file. Just download , then rename it to "Update.zip" and install just like regular firmware update. This will pre-install google market,etc. You may want to sign up for a gmail account first, so you don't have to mess with that part after the install as this needed for the market.
Should also be instructions on dexters site or elsewhere on this site (xda) use search bar above to find more.
Getjar is sorta like the google market but has significantly less apps available.
Also since this is for a minor, suggest setting parental controls in the settings menus.
DANOinSD said:
http://dext3r.komodin.org/
Here is the dexter mod link. About mid way down on the page you will find the elocity a7 file. Just download , then rename it to "Update.zip" and install just like regular firmware update. This will pre-install google market,etc. You may want to sign up for a gmail account first, so you don't have to mess with that part after the install as this needed for the market.
Should also be instructions on dexters site or elsewhere on this site (xda) use search bar above to find more.
Getjar is sorta like the google market but has significantly less apps available.
Also since this is for a minor, suggest setting parental controls in the settings menus.
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Is it the one for ElocityModv 1.0c.zip from dext3r.kamodin.org for 95MB?
Please, what do you mean by "and install just like regular firmware update?" I'm getting a bit confused and mixed-up, and don't want to do anything wrong with this new Elocity.
Also, I see in the Quick Start guide: "To delete an icon, press and hold the icon, then remove it to the Recycle bin."
We tried that and it does not work. We tried to delete the Facebook and the Amazon MP3 icons, but they still remain on the desktop. How can we remove?
Thanks
Alice
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Elocity A7
A Quick fix custom rom for the tegra2 tablet with root,googleapps and improved game support.
28-dec-2010 ElocityMod v1.0c ElocityMod v1.0c
Initial release with googleapps, root and wma/wmv audio support + build.prop fixes.
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What you guys did, after you tear down the box and turn on your acer a500 for the first time, excluding language and timezone selection?
Check for update manually
root it
ibila said:
Check for update manually
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What's the easiest way to do this?
ken_sadgit said:
root it
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I don't know what is it, or how they do it, but first I wanna know why they do it. All I heard is root! root! root!
get to know it
Do not root update install 3rd party apps until you know honeycomb and android
Of course root is obviously needed it also puts system files in your hands to mess up.
Please be careful and read all the forums and threads here
Thanks for hearing my 2 cents
If you dont know why you most likely do not need to do so yet
There are a great bunch of people here .take your time and do not jumpinto to deep
If you're not going to root, obviously the first thing is to set your tablet up with your Google account (either an existing GMail account or a new one.) Then set up any other email accounts, and install any apps you know you want that aren't on the tablet already (Kindle/Nook, games, utilities, TweetDeck, Pandora, MoboPlayer, etc.)
Find yourself a good File Manager; Android doesn't come by default with a program to let you view the files on your tablet :| I personally use ES File Explorer, but HD File Manager is also pretty good and was designed for Honeycomb/tablet size displays.
As Erica said above, don't even consider rooting until you've worked with Android a bit. If you don't need the tools root provides, you're better off not doing it.
Rooting your tablet (or other Android device) installs a "SuperUser" application which can allow other apps to act as the owner of the operating system (for Windows user, Administrator level privileges rather than User). In most cases, the method of getting root involves using a device- or Android-version-specific exploit/security hole.
With Root/SU, you can:
Run root-only apps like Titanium Backup, SetCPU (profiles only currently)
Remove and/or replace apps and other files not normally in the "user" space (CAUTION: Acer's update process expects damned near all of the pre-installed apps to still be there, so ALWAYS back up the original files!)
Once the hard-working and never-appreciated-enough Devs figure out a way around the bootloader (or Acer unlocks it), you can replace the kernel files, overclock, replace the entire ROM with a custom one
Some caveats:
Rooting will almost certainly void your warranty (if discovered should you have to return it for warranty service) and if you do it wrong, you can brick your device (i.e. you now have a flat black brick, not a functional device)
Some apps will not work on devices that are rooted (and/or have the SuperUser app present). Currently this includes at a minimum Google Movies and Blockbuster.
DON'T waste you time trying to update. It's been pulled until release fo HC 3.1.
DO enjoy the unit!
DO download apps and play.
Root at your own risk, but HC 3.1 is around the corner and you will have a dificult time getting it if you don't know what your not a techie.
Lastly, put it in Airplane mode before sleep mode to save battery. If you are turning it off, no dif.
Get Astro file mgr - free
Get Weatherbug for HC - free
Get Pandora - free
Load a micro mem card with all you music and videos, and enjoy one of the best devices in production.
If you have a memory card reader, blow you Ipad friends minds by asking them to borrow the memory card in their digital camera, plug it into the USB and swipe through their pictures. They don't have an app for that.
I have had my A500 since last week. I have basically just been trying out apps and browsing Forums to get more info. In the end the forum here seems to be most active and contains the most interesting information.
Also try to google for list with "Optimized for Honeycomb". This will make you fiind the apps that are optimized for the Tablet.
I did not root my device as I dont have any need for it (yet), but I am certainly waiting for 3.1. The current version of honeycomb is a bit unstable.
For the rest just enjoy the tablet
Smile, you just bought a great tablet
So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
Of course first have to buy a screen protector before remove the plastic cover. Apply the screen protector before it get dusted. Then only turn on the device, sign in your Google account and connect internet and do setting. Then go update the firmware.
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So what are you guys saying is that I should not update my build version, and wait for the 3.1 update
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Correct, unless you know what you are doing.
I've been collecting free apps from Amazon on my rooted NC for awhile now. At the time I got each of these apps, they were listed as "compatible" with my device.
Now suddenly a lot of them are not, and I am unable to go back and re-install the ones that I had removed.
Even worse, pretty much everything I've tried so far today to grab has come up as incompatible. Even really simple stuff that should have no problem running.
Oddly, at some point early on, Amazon listed my device as simply "Nook Color". Most of the apps are still showing as compatible with that device. Unfortunately, that's not what Amazon thinks my NC is anymore! I now have a second device on my list called "BarnesAndNoble NOOKcolor", which almost nothing is compatible with.
So then I wanted to check to see if Amazon was behind this, maybe to screw B&N fans. But nope! The Android Marketplace lists every game I've checked so far today as incompatible with my NC!!!
That's certainly news to me, considering some of the games I checked are currently installed on my NC and work perfectly.
I'm not sure what's going on here, but it's sort of scaring me. Who's locking down my rooted NC? If the official android marketplace says everything is incompatible... there aren't a lot of options for getting apps.
Do search with "Market" keyword, you will see about 10 threads with many responses and instructions how to fix this.
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Do search with "Market" keyword, you will see about 10 threads with many responses and instructions how to fix this.
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There are quite a few threads found that way, but none of the ones I read helped. I did the "stop/restart Framework/Google and reload" and nothing changed. Most of the others seem to be related to problems with the new market, which was working perfectly for me up until today, or problems run into right after rooting. I've been rooted for about 5 months with no market problems of any kind, and I haven't changed anything on my NC for over a month.
I also tried clearing the settings for the Amazon market and also deregistered the device from my amazon account, forcing it to re-register. Still no luck.
Anyone else seeing this, or have another suggestion?
My old market and new market were working fine too, just like yours, until a few days ago. If you try the 160 dpi/reboot/clear-data-from-market procedure below and that doesn't work, then you may have a totally unique problem that just happens to have the same variety of symptoms everyone else is having. (I'm doubtful.) This procedure seems to be fixing the problem for almost everyone else. Did you try it? It fixed mine.
1) set dpi to 160 in build.prop
2) reboot
3) clear market app data (force close first may help?)
4) restart market, accept terms, let it rebuild data at 160 dpi
5) profit
the above we all seem to agree on now. Next steps are more speculative
6) set dpi back to 161 (or whatever you had)
7) reboot
8) profit indefinitely (unknown how long this lasts; I rebooted >5 times including flashing a nightly w/o issue)
9) do NOT clear data again as this rebuilds data at the wrong dpi again.
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Thanks, I had tried the first half, but not the second. I used manual nooter, so my dpi entries originally looked like:
ro.sf.lcd_density.xdpi=169.3333
ro.sf.lcd_density.ydpi=169.3333
I don't know if that makes a difference.
Anyway, I just tried the second half of the above process but I'm still showing as incompatible. I wonder if I need to re-noot.
Everyone trying to be helpful here seems to miss the poster's dilemma. He is talking about the Amazon Market, not the Android Market. Hopefully someone familiar with the workings of the Amazon Market will chime in with some suggestions.
My original problem was with Amazon's market, but it looks like that's just a symptom of the bigger problem that I noticed first because I use it every day, as opposed to much less frequent use of the android market.
But the Android market suffers the same problem and from what I've read online it sounds like the problem was started with changes by Google that Amazon also adopted.
Interestingly I noticed this for the first time last night on the Android market and this morning with the Amazon market. Ebook downloads presently are unaffected to my rooted NC. Amazon recognizes my device as an Android but when I tried to make an app purchase this morning it suddenly tried to download it to a BN Nook. Amazon emailed me this morning saying that unless I have their market preloaded by the manufacturer they do not support it. Collusion?
I got the "not compatible" message after installing the most recent update from the Amazon App Store. Fortunately, I have the very first app store apk. I uninstalled the updated app store, then installed the old apk, logged in and then updated it and for some reason that worked for me. You might try not updating also to see if that works. I am not using CM7 though and I'm not manualnootered. I'm minirooted meaning I can side load apps and have superuser access, but no Android Market access and some other things.
I have attached the apk I used. I hope it works for you.
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Interestingly I noticed this for the first time last night on the Android market and this morning with the Amazon market. Ebook downloads presently are unaffected to my rooted NC. Amazon recognizes my device as an Android but when I tried to make an app purchase this morning it suddenly tried to download it to a BN Nook. Amazon emailed me this morning saying that unless I have their market preloaded by the manufacturer they do not support it. Collusion?
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A better question would be is Amazon trying to bork the Nook Color with their app?
Anyone else have a suggestion for getting the Android Market working again for me?
thanks for the APK, I'll try it when I have a chance... But since the Android market from Google doesn't work either I'm hoping for a fix to that.
If you make the change in your build.prop “ro.product.manufacturer=BarnesAndNoble” to “ro.product.manufacturer=samsung” then reboot the device. This seems to fix most of the device compatibility problems in the Amazon appstore. I went down the top 100 paid and free app list, and the only apps that came up with the compatibility problems after doing this are,
Soundhound
Peggle
Thumb keyboard
Trainz simulator THD
Chuzzle
Talking Tom Cat
flexT9
GrooVe IP
Ultra Voice Changer
TV.com
Compass
Also attached is the amazon appstore v.1.14, it has the double click buying fix, but does not give all the compatibility issues. With installing this version does fix the compatibility problem, but you will be constantly hounded with the update reminder.
I don't use Facebook, but I was able to find, install and open the Facebook app with the new market. Do the density change using 240. Its more stable than 160 for whatever reason.
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If you make the change in your build.prop “ro.product.manufacturer=BarnesAndNoble” to “ro.product.manufacturer=samsung” then reboot the device. This seems to fix most of the device compatibility problems in the Amazon appstore.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately it had no effect. The first four apps i tried not on your list all came up incompatible, as did stuff on the google market.
I'll try your attachment to see if it helps. Thx!
kayak and tripit does not install
Running MN4.5 on NC. Kayak and Tripit are visible in Market and downloads - but I get a window that just says "error".
Any suggestions?
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Also attached is the amazon appstore v.1.14, it has the double click buying fix, but does not give all the compatibility issues. With installing this version does fix the compatibility problem, but you will be constantly hounded with the update reminder.
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The old version of the market is working! I was able to install a number of apps that didn't previously work.
Now if I could just get the Google market to work!
Thanks for that link!
I was having the same problem with the AMAZON appstore (but not the android marketplace, for some reason) but I couldn't find the old amazon appstore apk. Going back to it totally fixed the problem. But you're right, the constant reminders to update the apk are a pain in the whatsus.
Also try going into application management and goto market and tap uninstall updates. Also use titanium backup or similar program to freeze market updater.
By what I read, I bet amazon is trying to block the competition because they are fixing to come out with their own tablets and by horning something like the nook you might be enticed to buy their tablet.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
My markets all seem to do whatever the f*ck they want the moment i need an application that was perfectly available minutes before. What i've done to get around the issue if neither the market or the amazon store have what i'm looking for is: (i know its tedious but hey it works)
1) install astro
2) using your android phone assuming you have one, download the applications you want regardless of them being compatible with the nook color according to the android market.
3) once your files are installed on your phone use astro to create a backup of the .apk files you want (open astro > menu > tools > application manager/backup)
4) i then take my sd card out of my phone and pop it into my nook color and install my apps through w.e file manager it is i have on the nook color
all the games that i cant normally download onto my nook through the official methods i've been able to install and play through the method i've been using. not ALL apps will allow you to back them up though =/
Hi, I hope I am at the right place to ask about this device.
I found a good deal on this 7" board, and saw that it shipped with the "new" Android v 2.3
However, I can't access the Android Market with it (is that obvious???). I think that without access to the largest app marketplace, I could as well return the thing. (the "replacement" market on it features zero of the apps I want/need)
I could go with a more expensive Samsung tablet where everything probably works out of the box, but I bought this for my kids to play with, so I felt I had no need for all that 3G/GPS/advanced stuff
Could you please advise me on how to obtain market access on this device, if at all possible? Most of the info I've found is on other/related tablets, with older versions of Android.
Is it possible to:
- install a compatible custom ROM (something that works on a tablet like Advent Amico, but it has newer hardware?)
- root the device and then do some magic with it?
- download some app that magically installs market?
- grab the apk's directly from market and then install them (aka "sideloading"?)
I'd really appreciate help on this!
I did a little research on "point of view pro tab 2" thru Google and came up empty (except for deal offerings).
I, personally, would avoid this tablet. On google I didn't find a single forum/board about this tablet, so atm the developing community is nonexistant, so you're getting a slim chance to ROOT your tablet and get the "Google Experience" TM --> Market, GMail, GTalk, Maps,...
If you really want a decent 7" Tablet then get an Archos A70 or its clone Prestigio PMP7070.
Archos also has 10" Tablets A101 (Prestigio PMP7100C), but Advent Vega/ViewSonic 10S/POV mobii are all Tegra 2 based (dual-core with NVIDIA technology (think GeForce GPUs)).
There are alot of similar models and brands in the tablet world and some are ROOT-able and some are not and not a single of these "cheap" tablets has the Google Experience, because that costs extra money for the manufactuers.
I would strongly recommend to check if the device is ROOT-able before you purchase it, this basically applies to any device nowadays: Routers, Phones, media players, Consoles,...
Update about the apks from the Market:
I installed the Market apk on my tablet and it didn't show some apps/games in the market. So I've installed them thru my SGS (phone) and then made a backup (Titanium Backup, Astro Filemanager, there are lots of backup apps on the market) and then transfered the apks from my phone to my PC and then from my PC to my tablet and normally installed them thru a filemanager (like Astro).
You just need to enable "Unknown sources" under Settings --> Applications and you're all done!
yani2000, thanks so much for your help.
I was hoping that the tablet was common HW, just with a obscure branding!
Btw, here's some info on the board. I was looking at the Archos, but it had less RAM and not 2.3, so I thought the POV was a better out of the box (guess I was wrong...)
Operating system Android 2.3 Gingerbread
Processor Telechips 8803 Cortex A8 - 1.0 GHz
System memory 512 MB DDR2
Storage memory 4GB NAND Flash
Display LCD 7" 800 x 480
Touchscreen Capacitive 2-point multi touch
WiFi 802.11 b/g
Hi there.
The screen res on that screen is very low even for a seven inch tab, you should be looking at 1024x600 as a min. 800x480 is the same as my 4 inch phone. Also forget gingerbread, honeycomb is what you want for a tab. Try to find a POV Mobii 10 inch. Vegacomb will install on that and its only around 250 euros.
PEACE.
yani2000 said:
I did a little research on "point of view pro tab 2" thru Google and came up empty (except for deal offerings).
I, personally, would avoid this tablet. On google I didn't find a single forum/board about this tablet, so atm the developing community is nonexistant, so you're getting a slim chance to ROOT your tablet and get the "Google Experience" TM --> Market, GMail, GTalk, Maps,...
If you really want a decent 7" Tablet then get an Archos A70 or its clone Prestigio PMP7070.
Archos also has 10" Tablets A101 (Prestigio PMP7100C), but Advent Vega/ViewSonic 10S/POV mobii are all Tegra 2 based (dual-core with NVIDIA technology (think GeForce GPUs)).
There are alot of similar models and brands in the tablet world and some are ROOT-able and some are not and not a single of these "cheap" tablets has the Google Experience, because that costs extra money for the manufactuers.
I would strongly recommend to check if the device is ROOT-able before you purchase it, this basically applies to any device nowadays: Routers, Phones, media players, Consoles,...
Update about the apks from the Market:
I installed the Market apk on my tablet and it didn't show some apps/games in the market. So I've installed them thru my SGS (phone) and then made a backup (Titanium Backup, Astro Filemanager, there are lots of backup apps on the market) and then transfered the apks from my phone to my PC and then from my PC to my tablet and normally installed them thru a filemanager (like Astro).
You just need to enable "Unknown sources" under Settings --> Applications and you're all done!
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hi there!
i'm thinking of buying a presticio 7070c tablet, but i'm unsure if it's possible to root it, or to install any custom rom, or at least change the launcher app. that prestigio's launcher is terrible!
also i'm wondering if it's possible to install regular android market, and then, afterwards to download and install apps from it?
any help is appreciated!
neverone said:
hi there!
i'm thinking of buying a presticio 7070c tablet, but i'm unsure if it's possible to root it, or to install any custom rom, or at least change the launcher app. that prestigio's launcher is terrible!
also i'm wondering if it's possible to install regular android market, and then, afterwards to download and install apps from it?
any help is appreciated!
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Hi!
You're actually on wrong XDA forum.
To get all the nice treats visit this XDA's sub-forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=875
Gen8 (Generation 8) are the forums for you!
Generation 9 is a good 8"/10" tablet forum with HoneyComb out-of-the-box.
To get more info about ROOT click here.
And here is a guide on how to ROOT.
If you have any questions feel free to ask in that forum.
And for the butt-ugly launcher (I would be ashamed to develop such a launcher), I think you can always install a custom laucher from the market like: GO Launcher EX, LauncherPro, ADW Launcher (I just pointed out few of the most commonly used launchers).
And for the apps+market thing... when you ROOT your tablet you can copy market, maps, contacts, gmail, talk, youtube,... and some other google framework and services related apks to your system/app folder with root explorer and after reboot you'll get the google experience.
Or you can install a custom ROM and let an experienced developer handle all the details.
Well tbh, from my research its based on the ly-f tablet. i'll post a thread when i figure out more.
Also, the tablet comes pre-rooted. just install superuser.apk and rock n roll.
[HowTo] Install Android Market on Point of View ProTab 2
I had the same problem with the Point of View Mobii 7" Tablet ProTab 2 (TAB-7C-4GW-1). After a couple of hours, I found a solution. Here is what I did:
1. Update the firmware/ROM to version 2. Download from Point of View homepage (I can't provide the URL due to forum limitations , but Google "TAB-7C-4GW-1 firmware" and it should be the first hit). NOTE that following the instructions will also perform a factory reset and remove all data. (The reset in the last step means putting a needle in the tiny hole on the back)
2. Configure Wi-Fi and connect.
3. Open the YouTube app and go to My channel. This will require you to log in, so select to add account and provide your Google credentials. (Adding the Google account in the device Settings didn't work for me, at least not under firmware 1)
4. Put LauncherPro and Home Switcher on an SD card, for example by backup up some other device with MyBackup (or maybe transfer to the tab via USB?). Open ES File Explorer and install LauncherPro. Then install Home Switcher, launch Home Switcher and select to launch LauncherPro. Now on the home screen of LauncherPro there will be a Market icon. Tap it, accept the terms - and your're in!
For me this worked on two separate devices with different Google accounts.
i picked up a POV mobii tegra 2 10.1 from my local computer shop for £132. it comes with froyo 2.2 and i installed youtube app and few games on it. im shocked how good the graphics are on games like shadowrun, riptide and jelly defence.
iv did try putting viewcomb 3.2 on the device but there were a lot of bugs, games like shadowrun did not work on it then either. vegacomb doesnt work, it just ends up at the vegacomb boot video animation and goes nowhere. so i went back to stock firmware. shame really since viewcomb had very good scrolling speed but it bricked itself with a usb boot loader message.
still trying to fina a way to get the proper market working with stock firmware.
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still trying to fina a way to get the proper market working with stock firmware.
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Did you try any of the custom ROMs that are based on v2.2?
Like Corvus5, Modaco ROM or a Preformance Pack that goes on top of stock firmware.
no i not tired those, although with stock firmware 2.2 everything seems to work fine for me, i dont ge thte scroll speed that honeycomb offers but the 2.2 is more stable.
however i have an issue with motion sensor games where they dont register the tilting on 2.2 firmware but work fine on honeycomb.
odd.
Hi, i get the same tablet of u (Point of View Mobii 7" Tablet ProTab 2 (TAB-7C-4GW-1)) but i get some troubles for upgrading the firmware, i cant enter in FWDN mode dunno why, i follow all steeps and nothing happens...
i press (holding) back button + power button and start normally and in FWDN software dont get the tablet data, can u helpme plz?
BTW this firmware upgrade solve the problem on sleep/suspend mode (tablet freeze and need to make a hard reset (tiny btn in back of the tablet)?
thanks!!
AllGoodWereTaken said:
I had the same problem with the Point of View Mobii 7" Tablet ProTab 2 (TAB-7C-4GW-1). After a couple of hours, I found a solution. Here is what I did:
1. Update the firmware/ROM to version 2. Download from Point of View homepage (I can't provide the URL due to forum limitations , but Google "TAB-7C-4GW-1 firmware" and it should be the first hit). NOTE that following the instructions will also perform a factory reset and remove all data. (The reset in the last step means putting a needle in the tiny hole on the back)
2. Configure Wi-Fi and connect.
3. Open the YouTube app and go to My channel. This will require you to log in, so select to add account and provide your Google credentials. (Adding the Google account in the device Settings didn't work for me, at least not under firmware 1)
4. Put LauncherPro and Home Switcher on an SD card, for example by backup up some other device with MyBackup (or maybe transfer to the tab via USB?). Open ES File Explorer and install LauncherPro. Then install Home Switcher, launch Home Switcher and select to launch LauncherPro. Now on the home screen of LauncherPro there will be a Market icon. Tap it, accept the terms - and your're in!
For me this worked on two separate devices with different Google accounts.
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the performance pack is very old, its for v1.08 rom, im using stock 1.10 rom.
corvus5 and modaco rom dont have a nvflash installer so the install method seems complex so i didnt bother with those roms.
me hoping VegaICS improves and works out well, that i would like to be using on this tablet. or who know, windows 8 in the future?
Point Of View Playtab 2/Protab 2 7-4 GW-4
Hi Guys,
I Have a Problem with my Protab 2 7-4GW-4 when i make screen selections or type i have to use my nails instead of my fingers.I have seen
many reviews about this 2.3.3 gingerbread tablet but in the reviews the tablet touch is fine and good but why my is not sensitive i have tried
touch calibration why plz help me guys plz how the videos on youtube have a good touchscreen and sensitive.They are the same like my Protab2 7-4GW4 BUT why my is not perfect plz reply plz reply with a good news plz i really love that tablet
So I had no problem installing or physically using the market app. The problem comes when I search for apps in the market. Every time I see a thread about must have apps I search for said apps and only find half or less. Real racing 2, Gta 3, even Google f'in maps all come up with nothing. I have tried every version of the market I can find to no avail. I figure there must be some other problem, and I just don't have the intelligence to figure it out. Is it possible the market checks for device compatability? Regardless, you guys are smarter than I can ever hope to be and seem helpful for the most part.
I would tell you what I rooted with and what market version I am using but it all got lost when my last laptop crashed. Yes, I know, longest post with no info ever. My bad.
UPDATE
I no longer have a computer and did not get any further in my quest to get the full market before my computer died. I probably could have just edited this post instead of posting a reply (third post) but I don't use forums much. So if you know of a way to get the full market without a computer it would be most appreciated.
Check out this thread.
Now, that developer has stated that he will not support stock, so I would not use his build.prop if you're using stock. What I did was to modify my own build.prop. Comment out (put a pound symbol: "#" at the very start of the line) any lines in your build.prop that start with either ro.build or ro.product, and add any line starting with those strings from the linked build.prop.
Now, realistically, I would expect that the linked build.prop to work on stock, but the developer has explicitly said you're on your own if you try. You can mess up your device by playing with build.prop, but the ro.build & ro.product lines should be relatively safe to change. Plus I have my own tweaks I prefer, so that's all I took from his version.
Check out the first post in this thread. I found this as a work around for the not compatible crap.
You have to follow it to a T
I just installed Real Racing 2 on my KF running CM7 Short version... Pay attention to browser vs market....
You may need to go to market.android.com in your browser first and log out if you are already logged in. (cookies)
1. Using browser google the app name.
2. Scroll until you see the link to the app on market.android.com.
3. Click that link in browser.
4. If you get a pop-up that asks to use browser or market, select browser.
5. A pop up will ask you to sign in. Sign in.
6. It will then ask you what to use to complete action, browser or market. Select market.
7. There will be an install button on the left of the page that describes the app, reviews, etc. Select install and then accept permissions.
8. It will download, but there will be an exclamation point at the top saying it is not compatible with your device, but if you look in your status bar, it will show that the app downloaded by the little check box inside a square icon.
9. Click that and finish the process. When I clicked the link in status bar, it then prompted me for the full 600 meg additional download for the game.
It finished the download and installed. I am now looking at the "Player Settings" screen and music from the game is playing on the KF.
The link posted above was for installing magiclocker main which, if you go through the normal process using the market app, is not available and doesn't come up in search . But if you do it as described, it will work.
(now to uninstall Real Racing 2 'cause I'm not a gamer)
Yes I am bringing this back from the dead because I have made no progress. It is only my fault though. Long story short, my fire is my only connection to the Internet now. I have no computer and did not get to flash a new Rom or update my build.prop before it died. Same general question as before about the market, but with a new more difficult situation. I figure I am screwed but I don't like to give up easily. Thanks again.
I got around this by using the GR6 rom (MoDaCo)... It has changes to it to make the market think it is a Galaxy Tab...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439916
I see that version 7 is out now... have not tried it... might flash it today.
o Based on the 6.2.2 release
o Heavily optimised and compressed to take as little space as possible and perform as fast as possible!
o Includes Google Services Framework and Google Play Store, masquerading as Galaxy Tab for maximum app availability
o Optional Google Books / Music
o Network location support (for Maps etc.)
o Rooted with Superuser
o Insecure boot image (for 'adb remount' etc.)
o init.d support
o TweakDeck Twitter client Kindle Fire version (can be uninstalled)
Hello fellow Nookers,
I've been lurking around here for the past couple of years, only to join about 8mo ago. I find the amount of knowledge and willingness to help at XDA fascinating. There are clearly A LOT of intelligent people here that could probably solve many of the worlds problems, if collectively asked. So, a big virtual thumbs up to all of you.
Well, enough of the mushy stuff. I'm here for a reason right? I have quite a few general questions regarding things such as... a rooted nook, Google Play, .apk files, transferring .apk files, searchmarket, etc.. Rather than start separate threads, or jump on many existing threads, I figured it might be easier to list them in one thread.
So, here we go.
Above all other questions below, here is what I am ultimately after...
I am looking to download .apk game files from Google Play so that I can transfer/install them on my Kindle Fire HD. So why not root the KF? I have read posts that rooting a KF using Amazon Prime will render Prime useless. I need my Prime for watching movies/shows. The games I want from GP are not available on the less-than-stellar Amazon App Store. I value my KF device more than my outdated NST, which is why I have no issues rooting the NST.
Now for the questions...
(1) I've followed the [Root] NookManager post here at XDA ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040351 ) and successfully rooted my NST running 1.2.1. Per the post, there were quite a few steps not mentioned according to this nook devs page ( http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch/Rooting ). [Q] Are the below areas from nook devs not necessary when following the [Root] NookManager post?
After you have burned the uSD card
#3
At the Android Welcome Screen skip "Sign In"
Enable Location Services when given the option.
Connect to Wifi and launch Youtube from ADW App Drawer.
Click the Menu button (On top at the right, next to the time.).
Select "My Channel" and Login using your Gmail Account (ensure the [email protected] format to link)
Exit Youtube and Launch Gmail.
Sync your Gmail Account and Exit. (If it fails to sync that is fine - it will do so later on if you give it a few minutes)
Open up Market and Accept Terms and Service.
(2) Before rooting, I changed the email address on B&N associated with the NST. The email with B&N matches the email I use for GP. However, the email on the NST, in account settings, is the previous email address. [Q] Is this an issue?
(3) When accessing GP on NST via the Browser App in ReLaunch, there are many games I cannot download. I get the message "This app is incompatible with your device". I've read a few posts online (outside of XDA) showing ways to spoof an older Android device to a current Android device. But, as with most things, it came with warnings and only working for devices running firmware higher than 1.2.1. [Q] Assuming this would trick GP into thinking I have a newer Android, is there a known way to accomplish spoofing a 1.2.1 device?
(4) Something worth pointing out... when accessing GP, and navigating to Settings/My Devices, "phone" is listed. However, when I go to Settings/Android Device Manager on GP, it states No Active Device Listed. [Q] Should there be a device in the Android Device Manager? If so, how to accomplish this?
(5) As it has been widely reported, the search feature on GP doesn't work when on the NST. For the record, I have noticed while in Settings, the search feature does in fact work. So, it has been suggested to use SearchMarket (which I have installed). However, this app seams to have its limitations. When I search for a game on SM, that I know is on GP, SM is not finding it. Also, the Market App within ReLaunch cannot find the game either. [Q] Is SM searching Market, and is Market different than GP?
(6) These next questions relate to downloading, rather than installing, apk files to the NST. Since my goal is to obtain apps from GP, that are not available via AAS, so I can install them on the KF, [Q] how can I have them sent to the mSD Card? [Q] Aside from using download/torrent sites to obtain .apk files, are there any "legal", safer, ways other than GP?
Well, I think that about covers it. I may regret saying this, but all of this came about because of one game... Blackout: Bring The Color Back. I am soooo hooked on that game. I first played it at Dave & Busters, and was hooked within minutes. I think I sat there playing it for a good 45 minutes. Then I found it on Apple's App Store. Now, I need it on the KF. If I could download this one game from GP, I would be ecstatic. LOL... can't believe I admitted that.
Thanks in advance.
Too detailed? I can dumb it down, if you think it'll help.
diditall4danook said:
(1) I've followed the [Root] NookManager post here at XDA ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040351 ) and successfully rooted my NST running 1.2.1. Per the post, there were quite a few steps not mentioned according to this nook devs page ( http://nookdevs.com/Nook_Simple_Touch/Rooting ). [Q] Are the below areas from nook devs not necessary when following the [Root] NookManager post?
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At the end of that guide did you follow and install the NTGAppsAttack package ?
If you read that guide it tells you the steps you read on nookdevs are some of the steps to sign in for first time to google.
I used NTGAppsAttack last night just fine. It is a little time sensitive so follow the intructions directly after installing.
Google recognized my NSTG instantly. The youtube trick is basically one of the methods to make google play acknowledge your device.
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(2) Before rooting, I changed the email address on B&N associated with the NST. The email with B&N matches the email I use for GP. However, the email on the NST, in account settings, is the previous email address. [Q] Is this an issue?
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Maybe. Try suggested above and if does not work after a day go backup to your backup de-register nook and try again with other email.
diditall4danook said:
(3) When accessing GP on NST via the Browser App in ReLaunch, there are many games I cannot download. I get the message "This app is incompatible with your device". I've read a few posts online (outside of XDA) showing ways to spoof an older Android device to a current Android device. But, as with most things, it came with warnings and only working for devices running firmware higher than 1.2.1. [Q] Assuming this would trick GP into thinking I have a newer Android, is there a known way to accomplish spoofing a 1.2.1 device?
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NST is a android 2.1 device also known as Eclair.
Its an old version very old. Even those games you can run on the nook with norefresh/fastmode you will still sometime need to get hold of an older version thats supports 2.1.
Try Simon Tatham's Puzzles (the B n W at least)
diditall4danook said:
(4) Something worth pointing out... when accessing GP, and navigating to Settings/My Devices, "phone" is listed. However, when I go to Settings/Android Device Manager on GP, it states No Active Device Listed. [Q] Should there be a device in the Android Device Manager? If so, how to accomplish this?
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Step one go to "Cog"->"Settings" on google play website. On right hand side click on EDIT on phone line and rename "phone" to be something better like "NST_1". Believe me you will regret not doing so when you have more than one!
Android Device manager requires a very up to date version GAPPS to work.
You want it to location your nook or blank it?
diditall4danook said:
(5) As it has been widely reported, the search feature on GP doesn't work when on the NST. For the record, I have noticed while in Settings, the search feature does in fact work. So, it has been suggested to use SearchMarket (which I have installed). However, this app seams to have its limitations. When I search for a game on SM, that I know is on GP, SM is not finding it. Also, the Market App within ReLaunch cannot find the game either. [Q] Is SM searching Market, and is Market different than GP?
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If your GAPPS updated itself then yes search may work. Searchmarket i expect does have different result ordering or interprets keywords slightly different or simply hides incompatible apps from you. Does it matter? You can use web version and install to device if your desperate.
diditall4danook said:
(6) These next questions relate to downloading, rather than installing, apk files to the NST. Since my goal is to obtain apps from GP, that are not available via AAS, so I can install them on the KF, [Q] how can I have them sent to the mSD Card? [Q] Aside from using download/torrent sites to obtain .apk files, are there any "legal", safer, ways other than GP?
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No idea what AAS and KF mean. Personally I use titainium backup or esfile explorer to save my apks. You can get them on your NST using dropbox or over windows shares (samba) using esfileexplorer. If you get hold of version 1.6X of esfileexplorer it has option for white background still (might have brought it back in later versions). One advantage of saving your apks you can keep the version that does what you want not be forced to update to something breaks what you want like esfileexplorer.
Hmm KF = KindleFire?