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Hi,
Is there any possibility that you smart guys could extract only the exchange capabilities from HTC's SENSE?
edit sorry guys
1. Wrong section
2. Search Button
3. ... all I am going to say.
Thanks,
There you go. Give it a try.
More politely put no it is not possible but you can use senseui with the normal launcher and have your exchange support.
Or just use touchdown OR motogal and motocal
Widgets
My problem is that I LOVE the widgets. the Calender Widget to be specific. I wish the Android calender would merge Exchange and Google calender information and present it out on a unified calender like HTC does. And I used Modaco's kitchen to dump the Sense UI but that also leaves me without the calendar and mail widgets :-(
Not working
Talderon - I have searched but didn't get a satisfying answer.
InGeNeTiCs - Tried it (adb push), but I don't see any new app..
genibus - If I get you correct, you are saying that the only possible way is using HTC Desire's ROM?
richardrahl said:
My problem is that I LOVE the widgets. the Calender Widget to be specific. I wish the Android calender would merge Exchange and Google calender information and present it out on a unified calender like HTC does. And I used Modaco's kitchen to dump the Sense UI but that also leaves me without the calendar and mail widgets :-(
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calwidget merges google and motorola, works like a charm.
itaysk said:
Talderon - I have searched but didn't get a satisfying answer.
InGeNeTiCs - Tried it (adb push), but I don't see any new app..
genibus - If I get you correct, you are saying that the only possible way is using HTC Desire's ROM?
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What functionality do you not want to lose from Stock Android?
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What functionality do you not want to lose from Stock Android?
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I need to overlay google cal and exchange cal. I am using calwidget which is nice, but I need a full calendar app. (i.e - pick a specific date, and see whats happening in both calendars)
I need to accept calendar invitations from exchange (Push) - motocal can do it only if I happen to navigate to the date and see the event invitation there. there's no way to know you received an invitation, and there's no centralized place where I can see my invitations.
I need to be able to search GAL from the email application. I have motogal, but it's not what i'm looking for. let's say someone sent me an email, I want to forward it to someone in the company. I dont want to go to motogal, search, copy, paste... I want to have the search in the TO field of the wmail app.
I need to search email and calendar..
These are the main problems...
Thanks for the help
Why do people seem to believe that everything can be ported, or "extracted" from everything. Not everything (as sad as this may be to some) can be ported to every single 'thing'. People seem to constantly ask for things from HTC Sense here, but they do not seem to comprehend that HTC Sense requires a specific framework, without Rosie we cannot simply port every minor detail over to the standard Vanilla Android. (From MY understanding, I could be wrong, but this is what I was taught).
Get the Desire ROM, or a imitation, and stop requesting..
This was not directed to the thread creator specifically, though it was to people who are requesting widgets. I really wish people could become a little more educated.. unless me myself is wrong.
itaysk said:
I need to overlay google cal and exchange cal. I am using calwidget which is nice, but I need a full calendar app. (i.e - pick a specific date, and see whats happening in both calendars)
I need to accept calendar invitations from exchange (Push) - motocal can do it only if I happen to navigate to the date and see the event invitation there. there's no way to know you received an invitation, and there's no centralized place where I can see my invitations.
I need to be able to search GAL from the email application. I have motogal, but it's not what i'm looking for. let's say someone sent me an email, I want to forward it to someone in the company. I dont want to go to motogal, search, copy, paste... I want to have the search in the TO field of the wmail app.
I need to search email and calendar..
These are the main problems...
Thanks for the help
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You can do all this already, or this is what you want to do?
Let me rephrase my earlier question, I think you misunderstood: What can you currently do that you will LOSE by going to the Desire ROM?
Eclair~ said:
Why do people seem to believe that everything can be ported, or "extracted" from everything. Not everything (as sad as this may be to some) can be ported to every single 'thing'. People seem to constantly ask for things from HTC Sense here, but they do not seem to comprehend that HTC Sense requires a specific framework, without Rosie we cannot simply port every minor detail over to the standard Vanilla Android. (From MY understanding, I could be wrong, but this is what I was taught).
Get the Desire ROM, or a imitation, and stop requesting..
This was not directed to the thread creator specifically, though it was to people who are requesting widgets. I really wish people could become a little more educated.. unless me myself is wrong.
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Because that's the idea behind the android OS? That everything is modular. Except that in this case HTC sense is a module for home, and not individual modules.
To the OP: If you want corporate usage, I believe it was pulled from the droid rom successfully. I've seen a few posts allude to it around here somewhere.
muncheese said:
Because that's the idea behind the android OS? That everything is modular. Except that in this case HTC sense is a module for home, and not individual modules.
To the OP: If you want corporate usage, I believe it was pulled from the droid rom successfully. I've seen a few posts allude to it around here somewhere.
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Well yes, I know that's the idea behind the Android OS, but not everything can be backported, extracted or whatever as easily as people seem to wish or think..
Paul22000 said:
You can do all this already, or this is what you want to do?
Let me rephrase my earlier question, I think you misunderstood: What can you currently do that you will LOSE by going to the Desire ROM?
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OHHH sorry I thought you asked a different question.
Actually, I wouldn't mind having a complete sense experience - That would be even better.
But I'm a little afraid to flash the entire Desire ROM because it's still experimental.. isn't it?
I'm currently with Cyanogen so it's not the idea of flashing that bothers me, it's just that specific ROM.
Thanks for your reply.
itaysk said:
OHHH sorry I thought you asked a different question.
Actually, I wouldn't mind having a complete sense experience - That would be even better.
But I'm a little afraid to flash the entire Desire ROM because it's still experimental.. isn't it?
I'm currently with Cyanogen so it's not the idea of flashing that bothers me, it's just that specific ROM.
Thanks for your reply.
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I'm guessing you are not familiar with the Nand Backup/Restore feature then?
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I'm guessing you are not familiar with the Nand Backup/Restore feature then?
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OK.. Ill give it a shot..
I was just trying to find out if there's a possibility that I wouldn't have to go through this, because all I need is proper exchange support.
Thanks.
Curiosity.
Without a Rooted Incredible I assume I can't install the sensemail.apk on the incredible?
I tried and the app won't install although both are HTC Sense UI's?
Verizon seemed to have downgraded the HTC Mail to only one screen option. I wanted the screen widget that showed the messages in a list not by individual pages where you flip through them to read the headers(single page).
I also tried the extracted widget from the HTC Desire ROM and it didn't want to install. said it was an application error.
Any hints? or just wait for the root?
If I create a contacts group in google.com/contacts it never appears in my phone (even after sync, course). But if I try to add the same group name in the phone it tells me the group exists so I can't create it. Oh Ye?!?! So where is it you stupid SGS? Show it to me. Nada!
If I create a group in my phone it never shows up in google.com/contacts. I can even go there and create a group with the same name.
Is this by design? Who belongs this bug? Android or Samsung? Do you have this problem with SGS or other phones.
Blame Samsung. They replaced the stock Android Contacts app with their own. There are many complaints about it in the forums.
Lol thanks. Is there an easy or not so easy way of reverting that crap samsung contact app?
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Lol thanks. Is there an easy or not so easy way of reverting that crap samsung contact app?
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You cannot uninstall the Samsung Contacts app, which is what syncs with Google. But you can install another third-party app and use that as your interface instead.
(Actually, I think the Samsung app does download the Google groups data element when it syncs, but just fails to display it.)
I have tried a free Market app called Contacts Evolved, which does display the contacts, by Gmail group, in separate tabs. A little buggy, though, with some force-close issues.
The more I try to use the really usefull features the more problems. I have the SGS almost a month and now can properly say (since this is stuff from other galaxy):
"Oh my god, it's full of BUGS"
I've created a calendar in Google calendar and it showed up in SGS. Great! This is rocket science.
Then I deleted that calendar. Vanished from the phne. OOooohhhoo!! Great.
Now I create another calendar. Nada. Zero. No way to make the calendar appear. Did I consumed my one calendar limit ?
Oh boy. This is so bad. Consumes a lot of time.
FM radio is mono. GPS is a joke. Contacts and Calendar have more bugs that entries. You get the strange sensation that when you peek under the hood it's a great hardware in the hands of the wrong guys. Just put vanilla FROYO please. It's easier and you can fire a lot of incompetent engineers.
I have 5 calendars in google calendar. Why this crazy phone only shows me 3? And what can I do besides selling it?
Sync and reboot are useless.
EDIT
I installed Gemini Calendar just to see if I can overcome the problem and with that app I can see all the calendars. I choose them, but the events I have in the ones missing from the stock SAMSUNG cal app, don't appear also. So one step closer to nothing.
just a question, did you enable viewing google contacts from the display option in the contacts app?
In the JP# Froyo builds, Google contact groups are listed (because this annoyed me too), so expect it in the official Froyo release when released
xfox said:
just a question, did you enable viewing google contacts from the display option in the contacts app?
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Yep! But the problem is with the groups not showing up.
andrewluecke said:
In the JP# Froyo builds, Google contact groups are listed (because this annoyed me too), so expect it in the official Froyo release when released
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Ok, let's hope. But there is already too much stuff sliding to froyo. It's gonna be the SGS mother of all fixes... not good, not good.
And now this calendar bug. This is starting to annoy me.
I actually used groupy a free app to overcome the stupid contacts apps from Samsung...shows all the groups perfectly from my mail contacts
I'll try that one also. Thanks
"Contacts GroupU" also does the trick. Good to group the google contacts on the phone, which did not work for me before.
I create the groups in the Samsung UI, fill them in the GroupU App. Thereafter all the stuff syncronizes correctly with my google account.
What doesn´t work for me, is vice versa.
Will Froyo fix all these problems? The answer is in September...
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Suuuuuuure it will (not). Froyo will be the mother of all fixes... Oh boy. You have to work in some other business to believe Froyo will solve all these bugs.
It will solve some, and bring different ones. That's a fact of life.
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Suuuuuuure it will (not). Froyo will be the mother of all fixes... Oh boy. You have to work in some other business to believe Froyo will solve all these bugs. It will solve some, and bring different ones. That's a fact of life.
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But then again, Samsung are focusing on fixing the major, most common bugs, so it will possibly fix all the major ones.. Also, Froyo is a refined version of Eclair (and a lot of Froyo stuff like highmem is already integrated in eclair builds). Google has probably fixed a lot too.
But nobody knows. That's the reality. We all have different beliefs, but they are simply that. Nobody has proof!
yeah i went form iPhone to SGS and I'm pissed that the really essential stuff doesn't work.
But i have some hope that it will be fixed soon because there is really a lot of these phones around,maybe they will fix the lag to.
Love the open system but then my iPhone was to open (jailbroken).
ylchong said:
Will Froyo fix all these problems? The answer is in September...
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The Samsung Contacts app is part of Samsung's firmware, not Google's Froyo OS. Now, Samsung may bundle a firmware fix along with Froyo, but that is a different matter.
(I am not sure if this question should be posted here or in Droid2 forum)
Anyone can help me to get MotoBlur out of my Milestone 2?
Is there anyone developing ROMS for this device?
I will be very happy with a standard clean 2.2 or 2.3 for Milestone 2.
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(I am not sure if this question should be posted here or in Droid2 forum)
Anyone can help me to get MotoBlur out of my Milestone 2?
Is there anyone developing ROMS for this device?
I will be very happy with a standard clean 2.2 or 2.3 for Milestone 2.
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You are on milestone 1 forums. Gl on 2.3, its not out yet even for nexus 1.
I think we need a dedicated Milestone 2 forum, someone pls?
pacharru said:
(I am not sure if this question should be posted here or in Droid2 forum)
Anyone can help me to get MotoBlur out of my Milestone 2?
Is there anyone developing ROMS for this device?
I will be very happy with a standard clean 2.2 or 2.3 for Milestone 2.
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just install some home replacement... launcherpro, adw... and set it as default launcher.
GoGs777 said:
just install some home replacement... launcherpro, adw... and set it as default launcher.
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When you install Launcher Pro it automatically becomes the default launcher and you can't get back to Moto. BLUR
You have to uninstall to see blur again
GoGs777 said:
just install some home replacement... launcherpro, adw... and set it as default launcher.
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I already have LauncherPro as default launcher, it is installed since first day.
But this is not answering to my question, my question was how to remove MotoBlur!
EDIT: Motorola´s explanation for MotoBlur:
So what is MOTOBLUR you might ask? Well it’s not a phone as you might initially think. It’s a new service, a new skin which will be able to handle all your social networking needs. Motorola’s own Sanjay Jha showed everyone that half of the US mobile traffic is going to social networking sites. That means Motorola’s future phones will cover that aspect extensively.
MOTOBLUR will be able to sync email, contacts, photos from any source and get it straight to your home screen immediately. Whether it’s coming from Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo, corporate email, MySpace, Gmail and more, you’ll never miss a thing with MOTOBLUR as the feature lets you manage your email addresses and social networking accounts. Or that’s what Motorola wants us to think.
So let’s check out some features:
Update social status on multiple social networks at once
Great visual experience
Check out friends’ status updates
Browse through messages in aggregated view or by account
Contacts’ status updates shown when receiving an incoming call
Remote delete in case phone gets stolen or lost
MOTOBLUR servers support
All we need now are some really hot Motorola phones to see these features of MOTOBLUR in action!
We need a new Thread for the Milestone 2
Indeed, I have root on my milestone 2.. with clockwork recovery...
but blur is still there... Need Cyanogen...
I've finally got my MS2 from Tim Brasil yesterday. First time on Android and can't figure out what belongs to Motoblur and what cames from Android. Is it just some sofisticated widget? What i'm gonna loose with no Motoblur. And what's the gain? Performance?
Edit: already notice it has its own message app, automatic back up with motoblur server, some contacts attributes, a function to link two ore more contacts from the same person etc. Not sure if I'm gonna miss it or not.
Motoblur is not just a launcher. Many useful widgets like News reader, Weather, Media sharing and the Docking station display rely on Motoblur to run. So make sure you don't want to use those features before you try to remove motoblur
borrego said:
Motoblur is not just a launcher. Many useful widgets like News reader, Weather, Media sharing and the Docking station display rely on Motoblur to run. So make sure you don't want to use those features before you try to remove motoblur
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Motoblur is also a number of services in the background. Services like the over-the-air-update-scanner, remote-data-eraser, remote-device-finder etc. You cannot just apply Launcher Pro, AWD Launcher, or something similar to your MS2 and think Motoblur is gone for good -> you just "hide" the Motoblur-surface, not deactivate the services.
I have actually used titanium backup to remove a large amount of the blur services it has significantly increased both the variety life and speed of my phone. give it a shot!
n3man said:
I have actually used titanium backup to remove a large amount of the blur services it has significantly increased both the variety life and speed of my phone. give it a shot!
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Ditto, I can confirm that there is a very significant difference, second day of owning the phone I had ripped out most of the motobloat and its much faster, battery lasts a solid day of moderate use, I've managed two days (struggling by the end of second day) with calls only.
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Ditto, I can confirm that there is a very significant difference, second day of owning the phone I had ripped out most of the motobloat and its much faster, battery lasts a solid day of moderate use, I've managed two days (struggling by the end of second day) with calls only.
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Which services/apps are safe to remove?
TomaszD84 said:
Which services/apps are safe to remove?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10800001&postcount=26
For those who have not english as their language on the Milestone 2 switch to english and reboot your phone. Then the Apps have the names Shellite postet on his Link above.
Btw.: Sorry if my english is bad. Its not my mothers tounge (i am german ^^)
Alternatively, another forum member translated my list into the german equivalent.
see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10825627&postcount=32
I'm brazilian and i found all of the apps to freeze, just translating the original name.
The list:
Code:
nconnected 2.2
Date and Time 2.2
ES Musica
Help Centre 2.2
HipHop Official
Home screen tips 2.2
News 2.2
Quick Contacts 2.2
Revolver TV
Rock On Altitude
Social Messaging 2.2
Social Messaging Service 2.2
Social Networking 2.2
Social Sharing 2.2
Social Status 2.2
Toggle Widgets 2.2
TrueCountry
Weather 2.2
World Clock 1.0
I installed ADW Launcher EX and then froze 'Home 2.2'. (* DONT FREEZE HOME 2.2 UNLESS YOU HAVE INSTALLED A LAUNCHER REPLACEMENT FIRST *)
In addition to the above I have also frozen these items, which I do not use, but which may impact your usability:
AdService 1.0
blur.res 2.2 (no idea what this is)
BrowserMessage 2.0
com.motorola.phoneaddons 2.2
Data Manager 2.2
Data Manager Service 1.1
Messages 2.2
Messaging 2.2
Sticky Note 2.2
Universal Inbox 2.2
Yahoo Contacts 2.2
I am still experimenting with other apps/packages, I have not tested if MMS still works after freezing messages2.2/messaging2.2, but I dont use it anyway.
So far my phone is running super fast, typically see's ~150-200MB RAM free, plus using Milestone Overclock I'm running 1.25ghz @ 62VSEL.
I'll see if the milestone 2 will be faster without this apps.
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I REALLY realized that the phone was much faster after that. I'm using the Zeam Launcher and the transitions are softer.
Don't know if it's a psicological effect but one thing i can tell: With a new launcher and freezing this apps i have a REALLY FASTER phone.
can you please specify, which application does what? I guess Some of them might be actually usefull?
also it would be very usefull to know which ones have the most significant impact on speed and batterylife.
edit: also I love the Facebook widget, is it possible to extract from motomlur and use it with launcherPro?
I am curios about the same thing: what service/app included in motoblur does what?
What is part of motoblur's functionality and what is stock android?
I.e. linking Facebook contacts with Google contacts, is that motoblur or android working there?
ovizii said:
I.e. linking Facebook contacts with Google contacts, is that motoblur or android working there?
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That's motoblur, but could be done using the official facebook app
Hello Everyone,
Im using HTC Desire with AuraxTsense 8.1.1 and ive seen a few roms with the core android contacts app. I tried using mybackup pro to back this app up and install it but it says "application not installed". Do i need to download a .zip and use recovery to install this? where could i get those files from either an .apk or a .zip.
Thanks for any help guys.
i believe the contacts is two apks contacts and contactsprovider. And you cannot get them into a sense rom by merely installing it, theres some wierd issue with it if u try to replace the senseui's contacts with it...
I know what you mean with wanting this, but if you're willing, try a different rom to see what you like at the same time? Something AOSP built. If you search there are ways to adb push the stock contact app which is what you want, but that includes the dialer which you also need if you want the contacts.
If you're willing to experiment, try a different rom. I was on AuraxTSense 8.1.1 also, but the battery drain was totally annoying. So I went to Oxygen and I haven't looked back (and has the contact app which you want). Done 18 hours on my phone today with relatively standard usage and,went down to 32%, amazing tbh.
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You can try to flash the "Android_Contacts.zip" file that is found on the mini-site I built for LeeDrOiD's ROMs. I have done so in the past (flashed through recovery) and both the HTC People AND stock Android Contacts seem to co-exist in perfect harmony It simply asks you which you'd like to launch when tapping the "Phone" button for example.
Of course it would be wise to perform a Nandroid backup first just for safety's sake!
Sense should allow all that harmonies in AOSP rom too. why dont they~~
Thanks for all the replys. im gona go try that website now!! ill post how i get on.
ok tried that but just got a load of force close messages before i could even start up the app. is there any .apk on the marketplace that would do this, or even a similar app. I know you can get it on sense cause i had it on one of the sense roms that i use. I just like AuraxTsense because of the power control in the notification area.
well actually i dont understand why do you want the android dialer? Sense dialer is what people want. Well at least i want it it, want it so much but sad it cant be used on AOSP roms.
Cause i love having to click a phone app and having my dialer/contacts/recent calls all in one app and just tabbed on the top. I dont care if its the android dialer but this is the best one ive seen laid out for what i want. Is it possible to get the samsung one or a similar app?
Ricochet I totally agree on that. The standard Android dialer app is way more functional and looks nicer too IMHO. Only thing missing is T9 search. I used Dialer One from the market when I wasnt rooted, however found it to be less snappy then a standard app.
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scar45 said:
You can try to flash the "Android_Contacts.zip" file that is found on the mini-site I built for LeeDrOiD's ROMs. I have done so in the past (flashed through recovery) and both the HTC People AND stock Android Contacts seem to co-exist in perfect harmony It simply asks you which you'd like to launch when tapping the "Phone" button for example.
Of course it would be wise to perform a Nandroid backup first just for safety's sake!
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I tried that and it somewhat worked. The dialer comes up but the contacts aren't there. The favorites and call logs are populated though. I'm using an HD rom though so I'm not sure it's the same (RCmixHD)
Tust found "TouchPal Smart Dialer" in the market. The main screen is a mix of HTC with Android Contacts tabs at the top. Gonna try this out to test functionality, but the layout is awesome!
Thanks man, that app is exactly what i wanted.
Hey Guys !
I'm just wondering if anyone have the retail contact/dialer .apk
'cuz oddly enough i can only edit contacts imported from facebook with that apk. any other apps gave me "you can't edit facebook contacts from this device". I tried several apps but i can't get rid of this. So I got to the retail rom and that worked.
And I don't want to use the retail rom.
could that be something related to Blur that enables this option to edit contacts from facebook ?
Since now Thnks.
I'm almost certain that is is blurcontacts or blurcontactsservice or something that is responsible - and you pretty much have to be on a moto rom that hasn't had blur removed or partially removed. Basically blur is all about social intergration and it's what brought the unity of all contacts and stuff
so i guess Blur had some good point after all. lol
Of course. Unfortunately one big downside of Blur is its slowness (on Froyo; I dunno how it is workin' on stock GB to be honest).
Using 2.3.6 Brazilian Official Rom and facing the same issue. Oddly it didn't use to happen when I first bought it, with stock Froyo. With Cyanogenmod I had the same issue. Damn.
do1984 said:
Using 2.3.6 Brazilian Official Rom and facing the same issue. Oddly it didn't use to happen when I first bought it, with stock Froyo. With Cyanogenmod I had the same issue. Damn.
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You're right ! I just get back to Retail since 2.3.6 came out, thought it would solve again this problem. well no deal, even now with Retail GB 2.3.6 i can't edit these contacts.
Looks like it only used to work on froyo retail rom.
both Milestone 2 2.3.6 ROMs (Reatil and Tim) dont allow you to edit Facebook contacts. and I dont think this is an issue.
the only way I found to edit Facebook contacts from the device is:
First - create another contact with the same Name and Last Name of the Facebook contact you wanna edit, and add the new information for the contact (like if you were editing the Facebook contact info)
Second - join this new contact with the 'old' Facebook contact... voila
It's very very slow edit Facebook contacts this way, but this is the only way I found