SGS Root Pros/Cons - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hi, im fairly new here. Was wondering what are some stand out advantages of rooting the SGS, r.g things that arent available other wise, battery life, themes and such. And if possible a strsight forward how to guide. also, is the sirius xm app available on a rooted sgs. Thanks in advance

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=723596

I think you posted in the wrong section...
Anyway, if u root, u void warranty...
But if u don't root u can't install custom ROM's (which are wickedly cool btw), use Titanium Backup and such apps that need root permission, etc...
However, when u upgrade to newer stock ROMs (2.2.1) which are a lot better than 2.2 stock ROMs, I believe speed and stability will be "almost" the same...
Personally, I would go for rooting...

You Don't need root to flash custom ROMs.
If your using a 2.1 firmware, you can flash any custom ROMs straight onto your phone using the recovery (vol up + Home Button + power button)
The custom ROM will root your phone in the process.
Rooting gives you access to system files, and thus allow your phone to run things that require that access.
Custom Roms are usually deodexed, this in layman terms means that you can install custom themes =)

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[UPDATED] [17/06/12] Rooting, Recovery, Custom ROMs and Troubleshoot!

Okay, so I read many new threads daily regarding how to root, about custom ROMs and everything so I thought I would just start this thread where we all could share what all we know. Something like FAQs for SGN. Without further delay, let's start.
1. What is rooting? Is it dangerous?
A. “Rooting” your device means obtaining “superuser” rights and permissions to your Android phone. When rooted, the user can run various apps that require root permissions to run and also, it allows the user to install custom ROMs or to flash various kernels, overclocking or underclocking the device etc.
Rooting is NOT dangerous. There are guides available here on XDA on how to root and they are pretty easy, straightforward and risk free.
The only disadvantage of rooting is that it voids your warranty but you can easily unroot your phone to get the warranty back.
2. How to root?
A. Pretty easy! Dr Ketan has created this very very simple guide on how to root. You can find it here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
Don't forget to thank him!
Easiest method in my opinion is to flash a pre rooted stock ROM through PC Odin.
3. How do I unroot?
It's mentioned in the guide above.
4. What is recovery?
A. Recovery refers to the dedicated, bootable partition that has the recovery console installed. A combination of key presses will boot your phone to recovery, where you can find tools to help repair (recover) your installation as well as install official OS updates. Now because Android is open and has the recovery source code available, building a customized version with more and different options is relatively easy as well.
5. ClockWorkMod Recovery??? How do I install it?
A. CWM, as it is generally called, is a custom recovery for Android. It offers many more options than those offered by the stock recovery and it's generally used to flash custom ROMs.
Installing CWM on your phone is dead simple. Again, thanks to Dr Ketan for his awesome guide. Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360
6. What is a custom ROM?
A. A custom ROM is a fully standalone version of the OS, including the kernel (which makes everything run), apps, services, etc - everything you need to operate the device, except it's customized by someone in some way.
Since Android is open source, developers are free to pick up the stock ROMs and modify them the way they like. As simple as that!
7. So how do I decide which is the best custom ROM?
A. There in no best custom ROM as such. Different ROMs have different advantages and disadvantages. Some give you incredible speed, some give you battery, some are better looking and so on. You have to decide what works best for you.
8. Do I really need to install a custom ROM or is stock good enough?
A. Ask yourself! Personally, I feel stock is crap. Also, there are many ROMs that offer stock experience whilst removing everything that makes the stock ROM crap.
9. Can I brick my phone while installing custom ROMs?
A. Yes and no. While it's pretty hard to actually brick a phone, it's possible. Use the CORRECT files and follow the steps as mentioned by the developer. But, as I said, it's highly unlikely that you'll end up with a bricked phone.
10. Okay, so I am ready to install a custom ROM. I know the risks and everything. How do I install it?
A. First of all, you need your phone to be rooted and you also need to have a recovery, like CWM. Now, different ROMs have difference installation procedures so I advice you to just read their respective threads thoroughly, know more about the ROM, decide if it's good enough and follow what the developer says. Use the CORRECT files.
Also, whatever you do, make sure you make backups of your current system through CWM. If ever something goes wrong, these backups will help you restore to your previous system.
Go on, it should all be easy!
Edit: Do not make Nandroid backups in CWM when on LPY, LPF, i9220 repack or other unsafe kernels. There's a very high risk of bricking your phone. Read the stickies!
11. What is Overclocking/Underclocking?
A. Simply put, overclocking is the process of increasing the clock frequency of your phone's processor. Underclocking is decreasing the frequency. It basically makes the processor run faster/slower according to what you set it for.
12. Risks of OC?
A.
Overclocking reduces the lifespan of the hardware of your phone.
It's possible to incurr permanent damage to the phone's compenets by OC.
Overclocking voids the warranty of your phone, but rooting has already done that!
13. Should I overclock?
A. Personally I think there is no use of OC except to fry off your processor and get higher quadrant score (which doesn't mean anything really!). With all these phones with fast processors, OC is less necessary.
14. How to overclock?
A. You need a kernel that supports overclocking. Like franco's kernel supports OC I think. Then you need an application (like SetCPU, No Frills CPU etc) to OC your device. Sometimes, OC options are built into a custom ROM as well.
15. I've had enough of rooting and custom ROMs. I need to go back. What do I do?
A. The easiest way to go back to stock ROM is to just simply flash any of the unrooted stock ROMs through PC Odin. As simple as that. Refer to Dr Ketan's guide for this.
16. What is an unsafe kernel?
A. Most stock ICS kernels are affected by the emmc bug, popularly known as the brick bug. The official CM9 kernels and some new other kernels are although free from this.
17. F***! I am on an unsafe kernel. What to do?
A. You should actually firstly know what not to do and than what to do. DO NOT wipe data in CWM, DO NOT factory reset your phone through either recovery or the Settings Menu and DO NOT delete big files from your internal or maybe even external memory. This heavy R/W operations triggers the brick bug and most often leaves the phone as useful as a paperweight.
Now, what should you be doing? If you're not gonna do any of the above, you're most probably as safe as those on a safe kernel. If you wanna get rid of this emmc bug altogether, you have to firstly go back to GB, use PC Odin method as stated above and then flash any of the new ROMs with safe kernels, read the dev section.
18. I wiped my data previously on an unsafe kernel and now my phone wouldn't boot up. I tried going back to stock GB with the PC Odin method but I'm stuck at "factoryfys.img". OMG! I can't even breathe now.. HELP!!!!
A. Superbrick. Yes, that's the word. Unfortunately, your phone is now bricked and only Samsung could help you now. Or if you're comfortable you can read and watch the DIY guides to replace the affected parts (motherboard).
So, this is all what I could think of at the moment. If you have any more Q&A that could help others, do add them!
Hope this helps..
Good one bro! It should help most of the folks out there! And quench many repeated questions
Thanks man!
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sujal said:
Thanks man!
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Its better to hit the thanks button than posting a post of thanks LOL
Cheers!! Enjoy your Note!!
Like that!
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By the way, I was wondering if the moderators could make this thread a sticky. Possible?
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Just Arrived
I am a burnt newbie. I tried to install a ROM from RootGalaxyNote that seemed perfect. A week later, after getting it back from MobileTechVideo and a full JTAG repair, I laid back on everything. Then I ran across Philz. Love what this guy does. Rooted the kernel MobileTech installed, and installed the Rom I'm using now, SweetROM V2.5. Hope this posts as I am 7 away from being able to talk to the"Big Boys".
Choosing a Kernal for your phone
I looked through PhilZ-cwm6 - Safe Stock Based Kernel but couldn't find anything that matches my kernal version. I honestly do not know where to ask so I hope you don't mind me asking you for your help. What kernal version do I download if this is my phone details:
Model number:
GT-N7000
Android version:
4.1.2
Baseband version:
N7000WELSA
Kernel version:
3.0.31-906371
[email protected]#3
SMP PREEMPT Mon Feb 18 15:19:46 KST 2013
Build number:
JZO54K.N7000UBLSF
You can try the XXLSA or XXLT4.

[Q] Stock vs Custom Rom, Hacks and Mods etc.

Amidst all these activities of custom roms, hacks, mods, roots etc I wonder how pervasive are these activities in the mobile phone community in the U. S. of A versus those who just use their devices without modification to how they came from the factory or carrier. What do you think those "stock" users might be missing?
They are missing the visual treats and tweaked performance..
But ICS and sammys TW has its own merits...so they wont feel left out..
I root because I need apps that require root (ie. button savior, reboot to recovery, jkay deluxe, root explorer so I can change boot animation, mobile odin, nandroid backups).
Flashing is actually pretty dangerous but:
I flash because I live on CassiesXtraLite. I need a slim rom.
I'm on CM9 release candidate now.
The only reason I would go back to stock is for the FM Radio app or to sell my phone. And since I won't be going to any drive-in theatres or getting rid of my phone anytime soon....
in my own personal opinion, i think you're missing a lot by not getting cassiesxtralite.
People buy the device for what's been advertised, so they do not lose anything at all.
People root and customize because they want something which is not offered officially.
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for tweaked performance
There is lot of bloatware that i don't want on my phone which i can uninstall by rooting and custom roms are always perform well compared to stock..

[Q] First time Tablet/Android buyer.

Hello all,
I just ordered a new Note 10.1 from Costco.com (32 gig) and from reading reviews and such I was thrown into the world of rooting. For my job, we were given iPhones so I've really only had an iPhone and am used to the iOS. Not a fan. Have always wanted to try Android but have never been thrown into it.
Are there any good guides out there to help me better understand rooting, etc.? I understand that you have to unlock it, then flash a custom ROM. What happens when the newer version of that ROM comes out? Do you lose all of your Data? Can any mod be installed on any ROM? I just don't have a good understanding of how or what to do. Granted, I don't even have the tablet yet, however, I don't want to be completely lost when I get it. I do like the idea of rooting, given that you can install powerful apps that are only offered to rooted tablets.
This is my first post here and am hoping for some helpful responses of maybe some threads that I should read to help me understand things better.
Also, where do you find custom ROMS? Is there a certain section you have to go? Or are all the custom ROMS under the ANDROID DEVELOPMENT forum?
Thanks for the help.
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
wd4oay said:
Rooting gives you access to the base files of your device. Your device does not need to be "unlocked." That term refers to modifying the device to work with other carriers (i.e. Sprint, ATT, etc) other than the one it was built to work with. Basically, in order to root, you must first install a custom "recovery." CWM (Clockwork Mod Recovery) is probably the best one for our Notes. The recovery files can be downloaded in the development forums. Along with the program (Odin) that you use to get the recovery installed onto your Note. Once you have CWM installed you can then use a couple of different methods to root or install a custom rom that is already rooted (again look for these roms in the development areas of this forum). Make sure that you read and re-read the instructions that each developer lists on their forum until you feel comfortable and then follow the instructions to the letter! Not doing so can result in your Note really getting messed up. I have not rooted my note yet, however I have rooted and installed custom ROMs to several android phones that I have or have had and it can be really worth it to do so. Personally I am waiting for awhile with my Note for some easier and more reliable methods and ROMs to become available. Right now, I have a Samsung Infuse phone with CM10 installed and a Samsung Captivate with Slim Rom-Jellybean on it. I believe that early versions of both of these ROMs are already available for the Note 10.1. Of the two ROMs, I would probably go with CM10 - (Cyanogen Mod) as it seems to be more stable on my phones. Also, when you install a custom ROM on the Note 10.1, there is a binary counter that advances, that lets anyone who would have to work on it (like for warranty service), know that a custom ROM was installed and that would violate your warranty. There is already a modification available (again, in the development section), that resets this counter, so make sure that you research that too! Good Luck!!!
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
midas69 said:
A lot is going to depend on which version of software you get initially on your tablet. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT let your tablet update the software when you first get it. The reason I say this is, if you have the older version of the software there is a very simple way to root your device. It's a simple install of one program and pushing a button. Very very easy.
If you get lucky and you get the older software and then root using the program I'm talking about, the next step is to spend $5 and buy Mobile Odin Pro. You can then download from here the latest software for your device and flash it using Mobile Odin with the ever root option. This will keep root on your new software. This will put you on the latest stock software and keep you rooted.
Custom ROMs can be nice. But I'd get my feet wet with the stock ROM before you start to jump into the Customs. First, stock on the Note 10.1 is pretty damn good. Second, you need to have some familiarity with what you want to be able to choose the right custom ROM to suit your needs. Finally, you'll give yourself some time to learn about your device so that you don't make a fatal mistake flashing, though most can be flashed using Mobile Odin.
Alas, if you get your Note and it turns out to have the latest ROM already, you can pretty much ignore everything I wrote.
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That's good to know. Thank you.
jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
I read in sammobile that samsung will launch Note 8.0, it is true?
What do you think?
rooting
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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There's more reasons to root other than just flashing custom ROMs. As a matter of fact, you really don't even have to root to install a custom ROM, you just need a custom recovery installed.
Personally I'm fine with the stock ROM on this tablet even though I run custom ROMs on my phones. I did have a custom ROM installed for a few weeks that was little more than the stock ROM with a few tweaks. It didn't lose any functionality with regards to multi-screen or pen. But some of the other more customized ROMs do lose functionality.
optimus43 said:
I have rooted several phones but not this tablet. Why? because for me the stock rom is good enough that I personally dont see an advantage to rooting it. Some like to root and install roms for the fun of it but I need the tablet to work and dont have time to futs around with getting to know a new rom.
I also have the impression,correct me if I'm wrong, that with custom roms you loose some of the multiscreen functionality and some of the pen functionality? If true that alone would keep me on stock.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
deeselcyde said:
That's good to know. Thank you.
Thank you. I'll check that out. Now, the process that you linked me to, will that give me the latest version ROM (4.2.1?). Another thing, once I root it, will I be able to have the Tablet automatically update and download 4.3, 4.4, etc. and so on? or will I have to manually download and install the new one every time it comes out?
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no, it leaves the firmware as is and it simply gives you root access, i.e. administrative control over just about all processes that the tablet is capable of. It also allows you to flash custom ROMS. that method, along with the exynos exploit method ( not possible on 4.1.2), leave you as close to stock as possible . and leaves the official recovery. Someone will undoubtedly correct me if I am wrong, but so long as you don't flash a custom ROM, I believe you can still update through OTA. I know you can through KIES. If you do go with a custom ROM, I'm pretty sure you lose all the touch wiz goodies, like multi screen as another noted above. and likely would have to use ODIN or mobile ODIN to update.
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What are some of the main benefits to rooting then? I would think that if you have rooted a lot of phones you would for sure want your tablet rooted..?? Can you still perform mods to your tablet if it's NOT rooted? I saw someone with a cube on their homescreen with all their apps on it. It was 3D and pretty sweet looking. Will I be able to do stuff like that if I keep it stock.
Another thing, I read that you can't put apps on the expandable storage unless you root it...That is something I would like to do because I plan on putting games on it and such. Seems crappy you can't install some of the bigger apps on your 64 gig sd.
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Custom apps such as multi window manager. Custom roms if you wish. Overclock cpu with tegrak on stock rooted, it does sometimes come in handy to be safely overclocked. personally this tablet is so good off the shelf you dont NEED a custom rom but that overclock is good. Ability to access and change root files such as dolphin preference in order to make it work with flash player. More reliable backups of apps and data with titanium backup. There are a plethera of reasons for rooting a tablet. But do be cautious.
Don't forget you need root for AdAway. You also need root if you want to play around (very dangerous) with the build.prop file to try to install programs that the Play Store says aren't compatible.
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The only thing I care about is having the ability to install Google Apps that can only be installed on rooted ROMS. I've read that there are a lot of great apps for rooted ONLY tablets. Also, some of those 3D cube thingy's that have all the app icons on it are kind of cool. I don't know if you can install those on a stock ROM..??
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The 3d cube things I think your talking about are scroll effects, like cube, sphere or card stack. You dont need to be rooted for these, you can just download a launcher (nova, apex, adw) from the play store and change the effects in there.
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jaydubbbbs said:
just to give you one more thing to think about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957002
stock is nice btw
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One more question about that link. So once I follow the instructions provided in the link to root my Note 10.1, will I still have the custom ROM? And, will I be able to auto update from Samsung or whoever whenever a new version of the Android ROM comes out? I don't necessarily care about having someones custom ROM, I just want the benefits of using the GAPPS that I wouldn't be able to use if I wasn't rooted.
Thanks.

[Q] Galaxy S4 Cyanogen Mod questions

I have a few question about rooting my S4 to Cyanogen Mod
Is it reversible?
Is there any way to keep some of the S4 features. i mainly want the Multiscreen and IR Blaster?
What would be the MAJOR disadvantages and advantages?
what are the recommended/cool things to download after rooting?
Before anything check your firmwire. If you're running on stock mf3 your bootloader is locked and you need to use safestrap to flash a custom ROM onto your device after rooting it.
As for ROM flashing, yes it's reversible if you make a nandroid back-up. You can recover through Odin/kies as well depending on the situation. Make sure to install a custom recovery on your phone before anything. (Philz, CWM, TWRP are good ones. I use TRWP).
If you're worried about losing some hardware features than just flash a custom TW (touchwiz) ROM that's debloated and more fast and uses the original Samsung framework. I personally think AoSP based ROMS are way more reliable and efficient than TW but you will lose some hardware features. There are many great aosp, GE and tw custom ROMs in the development section.
Disadvantages and advantages are personal opinion. I don't like touchwiz very much at all. I find it to be sluggish, take up too much space, and lack features I find useful in aosp based ROMs.
As for apps after rooted,
Greenify - allows you to hibernate apps to prevent them from running hidden background processes. Great for battery life and performance.
Root browser: ROM features and a great file browser. Can unpack and read .jar,.zip,.apk and many other file extensions.
Trickster mod: If you have a custom kernel this is a nifty tool for CPU/GPU/voltages tweaking.
Sixaxis Controller: Allows you to connect sixaxis controllers via Bluetooth to user them wirelessly (ps3 dual shock 3). Also allows you to make and create custom touch emulation profiles to map buttons to games that don't have control support I.E (modern combat 4, ravensword, order&chaos, etc.)
Titanium backup: allows you to uninstall apps, even system apps and from your carrier. Allows you to make backups of your phone, many other great features.
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Before anything check your firmwire. If you're running on stock mf3 your bootloader is locked and you need to use safestrap to root your device or you'll brick it.
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you need to root before you can use safestrap. you need safestrap to be able to run custom roms if you're on mf3
deadenz said:
you need to root before you can use safestrap. you need safestrap to be able to run custom roms if you're on mf3
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Yes, sorry I had jumped too far ahead of myself while typing so much; thanks for the correction! I'll correct the post.

[Q] Longtime IOS jailbreaker turned Android Noob..so..where do I start?

Hello all! I'm new to android and have been doing my research on the forums, youtube, google, under rocks, voodoo doctors, you name it. I've been able to grasp some things but many questions remain. phone: AT&T Note 3 on KitKat
1) Since it's not possible to root kitkat without tripping knox, what exactly do you lose in the warranty?
2)Which root method do you suggest if I plan on utilizing all what the custom rom/firmware world has to offer?
3)Is custom recovery meant to assist with the knox issue?
4) Can anyone direct me where to find certain tweaks/roms associated with reversing some of the KitKat bugs? Like the sdcard issue, the sview issue, and anymore important ones?
5)Is there a noob friendly faq on how to download roms on the phone and etc? Possibly a list of definitions?
Any and all links are greatly appreciated. I'm sure after a few weeks I'll be more accustomed to Android and all the ups and downs.
Thanks to all in advance!
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AscendedWisdom said:
Hello all! I'm new to android and have been doing my research on the forums, youtube, google, under rocks, voodoo doctors, you name it. I've been able to grasp some things but many questions remain. phone: AT&T Note 3 on KitKat
1) Since it's not possible to root kitkat without tripping knox, what exactly do you lose in the warranty?
2)Which root method do you suggest if I plan on utilizing all what the custom rom/firmware world has to offer?
3)Is custom recovery meant to assist with the knox issue?
4) Can anyone direct me where to find certain tweaks/roms associated with reversing some of the KitKat bugs? Like the sdcard issue, the sview issue, and anymore important ones?
5)Is there a noob friendly faq on how to download roms on the phone and etc? Possibly a list of definitions?
Any and all links are greatly appreciated. I'm sure after a few weeks I'll be more accustomed to Android and all the ups and downs.
Thanks to all in advance!
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1. technically ur warranty will void.
2. root methoeds, custom rom & etc are depend on users experience u should read users feedback and decide what to do
If i say X root method and Y rom is good it doesn't mean it will good also for u cause there s lots of options and u should search for what u want or need.
3. wht u mean by know issue? if u mean know counter so when u root ur device it will turn to 0x1 (if i remember correctly)
4. - again u should search by urself cause there s always different reports from custom ROMs! go and spend time in dev section
5. If u want official roms sammobile.com collects all of them but for custom ROM there s always download link in their threads & also tutorials.
list of roms
root info (as u can find in this link, cf-root is one of them best root method for galaxy)
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AscendedWisdom said:
Hello all! I'm new to android and have been doing my research on the forums, youtube, google, under rocks, voodoo doctors, you name it. I've been able to grasp some things but many questions remain. phone: AT&T Note 3 on KitKat
1) Since it's not possible to root kitkat without tripping knox, what exactly do you lose in the warranty?
2)Which root method do you suggest if I plan on utilizing all what the custom rom/firmware world has to offer?
3)Is custom recovery meant to assist with the knox issue?
4) Can anyone direct me where to find certain tweaks/roms associated with reversing some of the KitKat bugs? Like the sdcard issue, the sview issue, and anymore important ones?
5)Is there a noob friendly faq on how to download roms on the phone and etc? Possibly a list of definitions?
Any and all links are greatly appreciated. I'm sure after a few weeks I'll be more accustomed to Android and all the ups and downs.
Thanks to all in advance!
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Congrats on freeing yourself from IOS, and welcome to Android! Anyway, I'd like to ask first, since you're new to android, why would you want to "root" your phone? Unless you've got really good reason, I would suggest that you enjoy first the stock experience and learn the basics first. You can actually do a lot with android without having root access.
tclocki said:
why would you want to "root" your phone?
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Upgrade to Kitkat and want to write to storage cards with 3rd party apps...
Theme, run custom roms, debloat stock apps and actually OWN your device....
Did that answer your question?
ultramag69 said:
Upgrade to Kitkat and want to write to storage cards with 3rd party apps...
Theme, run custom roms, debloat stock apps and actually OWN your device....
Did that answer your question?
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Yes i agree..
But for someone that has come from an apple device, i wouldnt bother for a few weeks.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
celderic said:
Yes i agree..
But for someone that has come from an apple device, i wouldnt bother for a few weeks.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk
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Exactly. You dont need root to theme your phone. You dont need root to install some custom roms. We dont want a new user to do things he still dont understand which might lead him to doing an uninformed action on his phone which ultimately might end up ruinning his first android experience. I dont want to see more posts saying android is slow and laggy, it drains my battery fast and it sucks like hell - just because he unconciously did something to his (rooted and even sometimes, unrooted) device.
Thanks for the advice guys. It was definitely wiser to just enjoy and explore the phone for a couple weeks. I'm absolutely in love with it. I have upgraded to KitKat via the OTA update (slightly better battery, like the minor visual tweaks and even the faster unlock) and I'm ready to root the phone. The only thing is, I have a SMN900A and it seems that this build can't be rooted yet, is this true?
Also, I'm having a few issues with some apps not working time to time (TouchWiz has stopped, email has stopped, etc notifications..but then they work a few seconds later). Any advice on something I could do to prevent this?
And I really want to get rid of this bloatware on my phone, so much useless junk!!
AscendedWisdom said:
Thanks for the advice guys. It was definitely wiser to just enjoy and explore the phone for a couple weeks. I'm absolutely in love with it. I have upgraded to KitKat via the OTA update (slightly better battery, like the minor visual tweaks and even the faster unlock) and I'm ready to root the phone. The only thing is, I have a SMN900A and it seems that this build can't be rooted yet, is this true?
Also, I'm having a few issues with some apps not working time to time (TouchWiz has stopped, email has stopped, etc notifications..but then they work a few seconds later). Any advice on something I could do to prevent this?
And I really want to get rid of this bloatware on my phone, so much useless junk!!
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Welcome, im a former jailbreaker myself. Welcome to the dark side ?
Please remeber always read read and read again when youre rooting.
I can put rooting to you in a very primitive form
1) download samsung usb drivers
2) download odin
3) download custom recovery (Clockwork mod [CWM] or TWRP)
-- essentially both do the same but some are better developed for certain devices
4) download Custom ROM and put it on you sdcard / extsdcard
5) put phone into download mode (volume down + home + power)
6) flash custom recovery using PDA
7) let phone reboot then go into recovery mode (volume up + home + power)
8) BACKUP!!!! This is called a nandroid, its basically a snapshot of your phone.
If anything goes wrong, or you're unhappy with the new ROM you are about to flash
Ypu can revert to your nandroid, ie. Travel back in time.
**** if you are going from stock or another rom to a new rom you must do a full wipe
**** if your custom rom has AROMA which is a wizard it should give you the option
**** if it doesnt have AROMA you will need to do a sytem wipe / cache / dalvik cache wipe
9) Flash via (install zip via sdcard) and enjoy
Please use this as a general guideline.
Read read read the thread whereyou are going to flash from.
Once you have flashed a custome recovery your knox switch will become 0x1 voiding your warranty
Also it should be the last time you flash a custome recovery ie. You can just do step 4. And skip 5 and 6
Altogether.
Happy flashing
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"Skate where the puck’s going, not where it’s been.”
- Wayne Gretzsky
Thanks for the mini guide! I have done my share of reading but I don't to attempt anything without being sure the N900Acucunc2 (not sure if I wrote that baseband right) can in fact be rooted on 4.4.2.
LiMz said:
Welcome, im a former jailbreaker myself. Welcome to the dark side ?
Please remeber always read read and read again when youre rooting.
I can put rooting to you in a very primitive form
1) download samsung usb drivers
2) download odin
3) download custom recovery (Clockwork mod [CWM] or TWRP)
-- essentially both do the same but some are better developed for certain devices
4) download Custom ROM and put it on you sdcard / extsdcard
5) put phone into download mode (volume down + home + power)
6) flash custom recovery using PDA
7) let phone reboot then go into recovery mode (volume up + home + power)
8) BACKUP!!!! This is called a nandroid, its basically a snapshot of your phone.
If anything goes wrong, or you're unhappy with the new ROM you are about to flash
Ypu can revert to your nandroid, ie. Travel back in time.
**** if you are going from stock or another rom to a new rom you must do a full wipe
**** if your custom rom has AROMA which is a wizard it should give you the option
**** if it doesnt have AROMA you will need to do a sytem wipe / cache / dalvik cache wipe
9) Flash via (install zip via sdcard) and enjoy
Please use this as a general guideline.
Read read read the thread whereyou are going to flash from.
Once you have flashed a custome recovery your knox switch will become 0x1 voiding your warranty
Also it should be the last time you flash a custome recovery ie. You can just do step 4. And skip 5 and 6
Altogether.
Happy flashing
--
"Skate where the puck’s going, not where it’s been.”
- Wayne Gretzsky
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AscendedWisdom said:
Thanks for the mini guide! I have done my share of reading but I don't to attempt anything without being sure the N900Acucunc2 (not sure if I wrote that baseband right) can in fact be rooted on 4.4.2.
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Welcome to Android. Your N900A bootloader is locked so your kinda restricted. Most people bought a Tmo N3 instead since it's bootloader unlocked and use it on the ATT network. You should move over to the ATT Note 3 forums. This forum is for the international variant of the Note 3. N9005/N900

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