Worse GPS? *facepalm* - Vibrant General

I kid you not. In view: 2 In Use: 0
Accuracy: 0.0
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Hardware Problem. Obviously.

I strongly disagree that all phones have hardware defective GPS.
Live I've said how many times before.. my phone, on JFD locks onto 5-8/4-8 sats in under a minute and it's acruate within 20FT
on other builds/leaks it takes a few minutes to lock on.
Just saying

... and they removed the Android keyboard? lol

I don't think he said "all" either. In fact, he didn't even use that word in his post.

N8ter said:
I don't think he said "all" either. In fact, he didn't even use that word in his post.
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wow.. really?

richiehd said:
I kid you not. In view: 2 In Use: 0
Accuracy: 0.0
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Hardware Problem. Obviously.
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"Worse" as in you did something to your phone and it got worse?

Gigamaster89 said:
"Worse" as in you did something to your phone and it got worse?
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Yes, I updated it to the Mini Kies froyo.

He updated to FroYo through Kies Mini and the GPS is worse than it was before the update is what he meant.
As to the "wow really" kid up there, gfys.
You can figure out what that stands for, it's not hard.

Just an FYI, once I updated I couldn't get a GPS lock or anything.
What I had to do was turn off GPS, reboot, wipe GPS data, turn on GPS, and then let it sit in my car window running GPS Test for a good 15 minutes to get all the satellites.
Now KA6 seems the same as JI6 for lock speed. I can't tell on accuracy because it's overcast w/ flurries and the best I've ever gotten was 9' on a clear night, but normally 15' on a clear night.

richiehd said:
Yes, I updated it to the Mini Kies froyo.
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Oh so you were being sarcastic about the hardware problem...duh.

Did you try the gps fix app from samsung in the market?
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I had the opposite result. My GPS actually got better after the update. I also ran the Samsung GPS restore before I tested the GPS. On my test drive, the GPS locked within 15 seconds and didn't seem to get lost. With JI6 it would sometimes takes minutes for a lock and it would at time lose signal.

same here..worse...
0/3 for 15 mins after flash boot..

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GPS Finally Works Brilliantly.

Wow, I've had 4 replacement SII's (not due to GPS) and on all of them, they never got a GPS lock, really stressed me out.
However day before yesterday I left it to get a lock and it finally got one after about 4 minutes eek And then I've been constantly using the GPS and now whenever I load up the navigation I get a lock within a few seconds, always under 10 seconds worst case scenario!
So if you've got a slow GPS. Just bear with it, it seems to get better for some bizarre reason.
Yes, the first fix always takes a long time, after that cold start gps is faster.
I also left it the first time on my terrace for 10min and after that it's been fast and accurate, usually about 6m on a fine day, reported by gmaps.
The thing that bothers me most, is that google maps on the move is very choppy. It's accurate, but not smooth like on an iphone.
i think the gps on this phone is amazing, also impressed with the digital compass.
Exactly this happened for my i8910 also. At first it was very slow. Now it locks even inside the house. A little bit of patience is always important.
I dont think the lock time has ever been a problem with this gps.
Always the first time is slow, then it gets faster.
The bad thing is the accuracy. It is never completely accurate and it tends to jump around. Very very annoying if you want to use the gps for something like running and keeping track. I think I might have to return my GS2..
I would be interested to know whether you guys leave the GPS toggle on even when you don't have a navigation app running. If so, does it have any impact on battery life?
I've got into the habit of only toggling GPS on when I'm about to use a navigation app, then toggle it off afterwards.
This is my first Android phone and I didn't have this GPS toggle option with WinMo so not sure what the best setting is?
rojdag said:
i think the gps on this phone is amazing, also impressed with the digital compass.
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The GPS is amazing indeed, but I liked the compass more on the Spica. Somehow it was more responsive, not by much though. I still love my S2!
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I would be interested to know whether you guys leave the GPS toggle on even when you don't have a navigation app running. If so, does it have any impact on battery life?
I've got into the habit of only toggling GPS on when I'm about to use a navigation app, then toggle it off afterwards.
This is my first Android phone and I didn't have this GPS toggle option with WinMo so not sure what the best setting is?
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It should only turn on the gps when it's requested by an app, so no, it shouldn't drain your battery at all leaving the toggle on.
SBS_ said:
It should only turn on the gps when it's requested by an app, so no, it shouldn't drain your battery at all leaving the toggle on.
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Good to know, thanks.
SBS_ said:
It should only turn on the gps when it's requested by an app, so no, it shouldn't drain your battery at all leaving the toggle on.
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yes, but...
some people may have a rogue app running in the background, and it among other things, would periodically wake up gps and get position lock.
so the full answer is if you feel you have full knowledge of what is running on your phone, leave gps on, if you have doubts and you experience battery drain and your phone heats up for no reason - switch it off, and also look deeper into what you have installed and what services you have configured to run and sync.
FPRobber said:
The GPS is amazing indeed, but I liked the compass more on the Spica. Somehow it was more responsive, not by much though. I still love my S2!
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Get Ulysse Gizmo, THAT compass is genious .
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drm111 said:
Wow, I've had 4 replacement SII's (not due to GPS) and on all of them, they never got a GPS lock, really stressed me out.
However day before yesterday I left it to get a lock and it finally got one after about 4 minutes eek And then I've been constantly using the GPS and now whenever I load up the navigation I get a lock within a few seconds, always under 10 seconds worst case scenario!
So if you've got a slow GPS. Just bear with it, it seems to get better for some bizarre reason.
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wtf??? 4 replacements?! how in hell can you get 4 replacements within 14 days?!? usually it takes weeks for samsung to check your device and to repair it...
D4rK.F0rcE said:
wtf??? 4 replacements?! how in hell can you get 4 replacements within 14 days?!? usually it takes weeks for samsung to check your device and to repair it...
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you go to the career store, or contract-free store, and exchange it. As simple as that, if the phone is legally sold in your country.
Gps seems very good now- got my first cold lock after putting battery in for first time in about 20 seconds.
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I dont think the lock time has ever been a problem with this gps.
Always the first time is slow, then it gets faster.
The bad thing is the accuracy. It is never completely accurate and it tends to jump around. Very very annoying if you want to use the gps for something like running and keeping track. I think I might have to return my GS2..
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Really? Mine seems good enough for sports tracking.
Looking at GPS Test it sits very solidly around the 4-6m mark in good conditions, and in worse conditions (overcast etc), it still sits within the 4-10m mark - line of best fit still has good accuracy...
I have a piece at the Clove Blog looking just at GPS, probably up tomorrow, for anyone still on the fence about this phone because of the GPS function.
Agreed 100%. I used Google Maps+GPS+Nav for over 5 hours last Sunday on roads that my SGS would for sure jump around, not a single jump, overshoot, wrong direction. This device is a true stand alone GPS & navigation replacement.
Completely agree that this device is perfect for in-car navigation. Not too sure about running but I tried it for about 90mins in the car a few days ago in city and country roads and found it just as good as the desire I had.
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wtf??? 4 replacements?! how in hell can you get 4 replacements within 14 days?!? usually it takes weeks for samsung to check your device and to repair it...
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Why would I send it to Samsung? I get 28 days to get an on the spot replacement from the store I bought it from. After 28 days I'd have to go through Samsung.
GPS is damn good. I got a lock today sitting on my sofa messing with lattitude, My tomtom can't do that!
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NZtechfreak said:
Really? Mine seems good enough for sports tracking.
Looking at GPS Test it sits very solidly around the 4-6m mark in good conditions, and in worse conditions (overcast etc), it still sits within the 4-10m mark - line of best fit still has good accuracy...
I have a piece at the Clove Blog looking just at GPS, probably up tomorrow, for anyone still on the fence about this phone because of the GPS function.
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same for me i use sportypal to track my runs and you can see which side of the road im on, id say 1-2m accuracy
http://sportypal.com/Workouts/Details/1163209

[Q] GPS - SGSII Vs. iPhone4

Hi,I read this review:http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608.php
I have HTC HD2.
I want to buy SGSII but I worry about the GPS on SGSII.
I mean to lock time and sensitivity tests.
I did a comparison with iPhone 4,and iPhone defeat my HD2 at lock time test.
Does SGSII have a better GPS receiver ?
Thanks.
ayosopov said:
Hi,I read this review:http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_sensation_vs_galaxy_sii_vs_optimus_2x-review-608.php
I have HTC HD2.
I want to buy SGSII but I worry about the GPS on SGSII.
I mean to lock time and sensitivity tests.
I did a comparison with iPhone 4,and iPhone defeat my HD2 at lock time test.
Does SGSII have a better GPS receiver ?
Thanks.
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Hi There,
not sure about the GPS hardware in the SGS2 but i have had an iPhone 4 and also a Desire HD, IMO i think the SGS2 is much quicker and more reliable at getting a lock, when im outside it takes less than 10secs to get an Exact lock. took a lot longer on DHD and iPhone 4
hope this helps !
P.S. SGSII is an amazing phone, best one out at the moment get it !
Are you running android on your HD2? A-GPS isn't properly working on the HD2 with android yet (see tytung's thread in the HD2 section) so the iphone would be faster.
I came from the HD2 to the SGS2 and the GPS seems to be great so far. Lock from cold in >10s and error is around 5m.
Watch out though, when I got my SGS2 the gps.conf file was set to north-america rather than uk (where I am). That'll make a difference to lock time.
I noticed that gps won't fix without a-gps, am i the only one?
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I noticed that gps won't fix without a-gps, am i the only one?
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Mine usually locks within 10-12 seconds outdoors/ clear sky even without AGPS.
However sometimes it will fail to lock even though GPS app show 5-7 satellites in view. If I then switch on a-gps it will get a lock most of the times.
However even with AGPS on, it has failed to lock on 3-4 occasions (~2 months usage)! After trying for over 5 minutes, I rebooted the phone and all was fine and dandy!
Just tried mine, it took 29 seconds with a-gps disabled, no wifi help or anything.
Tested cold boot a few roms ago .
Cold boot 4mins and 8 sats with 45 feet .No Wifi No Mobile Towers .
Subsequent lock on are lightning fast .
Only tool used is to change gps.conf to a local time server via faster fix .
Tests using my tracks show much better than SGS1 .
jje
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Are you running android on your HD2? A-GPS isn't properly working on the HD2 with android yet (see tytung's thread in the HD2 section) so the iphone would be faster.
I came from the HD2 to the SGS2 and the GPS seems to be great so far. Lock from cold in >10s and error is around 5m.
Watch out though, when I got my SGS2 the gps.conf file was set to north-america rather than uk (where I am). That'll make a difference to lock time.
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Do you mean to this theard:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100114&highlight=GPS
Does update KE7 really fix the GPS problem?
Does update KE7 really fix the GPS problem?
No as no specific GPS problem on this phone .
jje
Ive used the gps on this phone half a dozen times with Google maps and every time is locked in under 5 seconds. Accurate to 10 meters.
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People might believe this after the SGS effort but the GPS works ok. It kills the battery at about 1 percent a minute and turns the thing into a nice heater, which will come in handy in the winter, so it's a shame its the summer. At least it works and is a step in the right direction. YAY.
Just a quick note: SGS2 has a beast GPS. It locks in less than 10 seconds outside.
The gps on this phone locks in 6 seconds when I'm inside a building. No BS. Using google maps.
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diehard2222 said:
The gps on this phone locks in 6 seconds when I'm inside a building. No BS. Using google maps.
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With a-gps maybe..
parker7 said:
People might believe this after the SGS effort but the GPS works ok. It kills the battery at about 1 percent a minute
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That's better than the nexus one
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Mine work perfectly. I live in a village and have a very bad gsm signal with no 3G. In AirPlane mod and with A-GPS it's normaly starts in 10-20 seconds. Sometimes at home near window it takes 30-50 seconds.
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With a-gps maybe..
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Huh?
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So wich phone will give more reliable latitude/longitude values?
Thanks.
diehard2222 said:
Huh?
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With data connection the fix is very fast, without it can take 4-5 min
parker7 said:
People might believe this after the SGS effort but the GPS works ok. It kills the battery at about 1 percent a minute and turns the thing into a nice heater, which will come in handy in the winter, so it's a shame its the summer. At least it works and is a step in the right direction. YAY.
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Mine locks in under 20sec....and certainly does not drain the battery at 1% per min....I lost about 25% battery after 1hr10 mins today.
I am on Cognition Rom, so not sure if that makes a difference.

Gps freezing...need help desperately

Hi all. I apologize for starting new thread. I am travelling right now and have NO access to a computer other than my epic. I am totally dependent upon my epic's gps and nav and the tapatalk search is not helping.
I upgraded to stock eg22 and then odined cwm and su to get root. Other than that, I am totally stock
The gps is freezing constantly when in navigation. It's losing signal and totally locking the driver so that the indicator up top says thereis a lock but there isn't.
Nothing gets rid of the frozen icon other than reboot. I tried gps on/off from quick menu, airplane mode, ending all tasks, turning off using deep setup menus....gps is useless until reboot.
It only seems to freeze during nav mode whereas regular maps seems ok...
Please help to point me towards a fix or workaround.
Thanks all!
Josh
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This is a known bug with the leaks. I believe it is caused by the battery getting too hot. Try running it without the charger on and see if it goes further without a lockup. Best bet is to restore a froyo ROM but you will still be stuck with the EG22 modem until you get to a computer. I assume you have the EG22 modem already which is the best for GPS on EG22 leaks.
There is also a program in the market called GPS Aids (free) which some people have said worked for them. I still believe it is heat though.
kennyglass123 said:
There is also a program in the market called GPS Aids (free) which some people have said worked for them. I still believe it is heat though.
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Edited...I think you may be stuck without a laptop to get back to EC05 or EE03 modem. Unfortunately that is one of the issues with the leak.
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JohnCorleone said:
Hey Kenny, isn't there a flashable version of EC05 modem since it was an official release to help the OP out?? Let me dig around a bit..
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I was looking for that too the other day and couldn't find it...only found a broken thread. It would be great if you could find it. The problem was EC05 was OTA only so could only use update.zip from DI18 or EB13.
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I was looking for that too the other day and couldn't find it...only found a broken thread. It would be great if you could find it. The problem was EC05 was OTA only so could only use update.zip from DI18 or EB13.
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Damn you are fast...lol. I edited my post because I can't find it either but let me dig through what I have personally...it looks like I only have the EC05 to EF02 one. I don't think that will help.
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You are correct that I am on eg22 modem. I didn't even think it could be battery issue from overheating. I can try leaving keyboard open too. That used to help with heat running wmwifi back in my wm days.
I'd rather try that before going back to ec05 rom, although would use flashable ec05 rom or modem if I have too as I'm here for another 6 days and need gps as the roads have no signs for 5-10 mile clips...
Thank you both!
Josh
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JohnCorleone said:
Damn you are fast...lol. I edited my post because I can't find it either but let me dig through what I have personally...
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Hehe...I tried another approach which you may have in your files somewhere, a ROM that also installs the EC05 modem regardless of what modem you are on. Bonsai had ROMs that update the modem but only checked for earlier modems before swapping, not later versions.
Good luck Josh. Another trick you can use is to use the GPS for clips at a time. If there is a 20 mile run before an exit, leave it off until you get near the exit. Then start it again from there.
Let me know if you agree about the heat problem, it is a theory I am working on.
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Good luck Josh. Another trick you can use is to use the GPS for clips at a time. If there is a 20 mile run before an exit, leave it off until you get near the exit. Then start it again from there.
Let me know if you agree about the heat problem, it is a theory I am working on.
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Good idea Kenny. From what I remember reading, the freezes do seem to be after 20 to 30 minutes. I didn't even think of that. Its a lot easier than finding an e-bar or library and trying to install Sammy drivers and such. Is that even possible?...lol
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JohnCorleone said:
Good idea Kenny. From what I remember reading, the freezes do seem to be after 20 to 30 minutes. I didn't even think of that. Its a lot easier than finding an e-bar or library and trying to install Sammy drivers and such. Is that even possible?...lol
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I could imagine the looks as you hooked up the phone...lol. I have gotten over an hour and a quarter without lockup on EG22. Other GB modems I would lose gps after 30 minutes.
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Before I went on vacation last week, I flashed back to Bonsai 4.1.3 because I knew I would need my GPS for the trip. However, I forgot to flash the EC05 modem so I was still running the EG22 modem all week. During the trip my GPS would loose signal during Navigation about every hour or two, but unlike the EG22 ROMs, it would regain signal within 20-30 seconds and recover without a reboot. I've since switched back to the EC05 modem and have yet to lose GPS signal once. Just thought I would share this in case it provides any insight.
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I believe it is caused by the battery getting too hot.
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Please don't make this assumption without evidence.
This sounds similar to the EC05 GPS crash bug. In the last EG22 GPS thread I asked folks to record a logcat so I could very if this is the problem, but nobody took up that offer.
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Before I went on vacation last week, I flashed back to Bonsai 4.1.3 because I knew I would need my GPS for the trip. However, I forgot to flash the EC05 modem so I was still running the EG22 modem all week. During the trip my GPS would loose signal during Navigation about every hour or two, but unlike the EG22 ROMs, it would regain signal within 20-30 seconds and recover without a reboot.
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Do you know if Bonsai 4.1.3 contains my GPS crash fix? I don't have a changelog handy.
Folks, if the EG22 GPS problem is similar to as EC05, I'm willing to fix it. But I don't/can't run leaked ROMs and am unable to test it myself. Anyone feel like grabbing that logcat?
mkasick said:
Do you know if Bonsai 4.1.3 contains my GPS crash fix? I don't have a changelog handy.
Folks, if the EG22 GPS problem is similar to as EC05, I'm willing to fix it. But I don't/can't run leaked ROMs and am unable to test it myself. Anyone feel like grabbing that logcat?
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't have your GPS crash fix, but I've never had any issue with GPS on 4.1.3, or any EC05 ROM for that matter. I use Navigation pretty extensively at one of my jobs, and it's always been reliable.
I can't compare the EG22 issue to the EC05 issue because I've never experienced one on EC05. With EG22, the GPS crashes after a period of Navigation and requires a reboot of the phone to fix it. My experience on vacation was similar, except that the GPS would recover after 20 or 30 seconds(no reboot required). This was running a EC05 ROM (bonsai 4.1.3) with the EG22 modem. Once I replaced the EG22 modem with the EC05, I was unable to replicate the issue.
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Please don't make this assumption without evidence.
This sounds similar to the EC05 GPS crash bug. In the last EG22 GPS thread I asked folks to record a logcat so I could very if this is the problem, but nobody took up that offer.
Do you know if Bonsai 4.1.3 contains my GPS crash fix? I don't have a changelog handy.
Folks, if the EG22 GPS problem is similar to as EC05, I'm willing to fix it. But I don't/can't run leaked ROMs and am unable to test it myself. Anyone feel like grabbing that logcat?
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I believe the EG22 issue to be different and possibly heat related. With these leaks we have had random reboots, batteries refusing to charge due to temperature and the gps freezing after an hour or so. With EC05 I had the issue where it would not lock from the start without a reboot but EG22 (and the other modems) just stop at some point and mostly require a reboot to get going again.
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I'm pretty sure it doesn't have your GPS crash fix,
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Certain of that? I know they've pulled in some of my fixes in the past, I'm just not sure about that one.
The EC05 GPS crash problem is due to a synchronization bug that results in interleaved requests to the modem, which gets hosed up. In practice, it happens with relatively low probability so most folks don't run into it, but it is consistently reproducable.
Now, there's probably a separate bug in EG22 that causes the GPS to puke for another reason. If the sync bug is still present, and in response to the GPS puking the RIL issues multiple request to the modem, it could cause a crash just like EC05, but it happens more frequently due to the modem bug.
With the crash bug is fixed, EG22's GPS may still puke, but as you experienced (assuming Bonsai is patched), it will likely fix itself after 20-30 seconds instead of requiriing a reboot.
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I believe the EG22 issue to be different and possibly heat related. With these leaks we have had random reboots, batteries refusing to charge due to temperature and the gps freezing after an hour or so.
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Do you have reason to believe the GPS issue is related to the others, or is it because they manifest in the same leaked version?
Anyways, kernel panics and watchdog reboots are hard to debug. But a GPS crash is something we can at least log and investigate further. Which is why I'm interested in obtaining a log from someone who either experiences it, or can reproduce it.
every time i go on a road trip i flash my phone back to the last stable rom i used. no way i'm leaving NY these days with a leaked rom
for the record i drove from NYC to manchester TN via DC on EC05 with the GPS and the music player running the whole time and never lost connection for more then a minute in either direction
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Certain of that? I know they've pulled in some of my fixes in the past, I'm just not sure about that one.
The EC05 GPS crash problem is due to a synchronization bug that results in interleaved requests to the modem, which gets hosed up. In practice, it happens with relatively low probability so most folks don't run into it, but it is consistently reproducable.
Now, there's probably a separate bug in EG22 that causes the GPS to puke for another reason. If the sync bug is still present, and in response to the GPS puking the RIL issues multiple request to the modem, it could cause a crash just like EC05, but it happens more frequently due to the modem bug.
With the crash bug is fixed, EG22's GPS may still puke, but as you experienced (assuming Bonsai is patched), it will likely fix itself after 20-30 seconds instead of requiriing a reboot.
Do you have reason to believe the GPS issue is related to the others, or is it because they manifest in the same leaked version?
Anyways, kernel panics and watchdog reboots are hard to debug. But a GPS crash is something we can at least log and investigate further. Which is why I'm interested in obtaining a log from someone who either experiences it, or can reproduce it.
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Bonsai did pull in your TWS, and keyboard patches, but none of the GPS stuff.
Im currently running scrambled eggs (eg22 rom) and im running the ee03 modem...my gps starts instantly but after 15 minutes or so, it just disconnects and searches for a signal...i simply exit google nav and restart it and gps is working just like it was...it's annoying but i can deal with it till OTA drops...its not a modem issue...it has to do with eg22 and how samsung has set up gps settings in gingerbread..Im no dev btw, just my 2 cents lol
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Bonsai did pull in your TWS, and keyboard patches, but none of the GPS stuff.
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Fair enough. In any event, I'm still willing to take a look at a logcat if someone affected by this problem can grab one.

EL30 stock observations

I have installed the EL30 update after going back to stock EC05>EI22. Here is what I have observed about EL30 (I have not applied any other fixes nor rooted yet):
-The upside down horizontal calibration for compass is fixed
-Keyboard lag is gone
-GPS improved from locking only 4 satellites to 6-7 (the GPS Fix I think, could can allow more, upto 9-12 under best conditions), so I think this made be good enough, but balancing power for battery consumption.
-"Android System" service aka CIQ is definitely gone.
-Haven't experienced speaker feedback squeal yet, although I did on EI22 after I had used voicemail and google voice search.
I have installed CWM 5.0.2.7 and rooted. I had to do the CWM flash twice (once to get SU on and open Root Explorer so I could delete the install recovery script, since there's no EL30 Kernel yet that takes out the install-recovery.sh script. A description from IBE here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1457734&page=2
have you notice any with modem? better signal ? speed anything?
i read that it was causing to lose signal.
ivcesar said:
have you notice any with modem? better signal ? speed anything?
i read that it was causing to lose signal.
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I am showing only 2 bars in my house with an Airave when I normally get 4.
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No, I'm getting about the same signal with my Airave. The wifi looks like more bars than EI22.
Has the rotation sensor been jerky for you in the past (skymap/yelp/other AR apps) and has EL30 made it smooth again?
Seems snappier. GPS is definitely better. Had a lock as good as 1m today for a short time while driving around and it was cloudy. 4m was the norm. Will test the modem over the next few days.
Man, if the keyboard skip is fixed and the GPS too, I'll be happier than a dead pig in the sun. The wife and I made a run from Houston to Ft Worth this weekend. I had to pull the battery about 7 times on the trip to get the GPS back on track. Extraordinarily annoying when you are trying to find your way in a place you've never been before.
No OTA here yet, probably will go the manual route. Thanks for the good news on the update, look forward to having a phone I don't have to cuss out all the time!
Sleeb
Preliminary results for me with EL30 modem running EI22 Legendary is: ~7% TWS while at home. I'll report back after a normal day at work and then going home.
With EI22 modem I would average ~3% TWS.
It's a shame I'd have any TWS since I live in a metropolitan area. Stupid Sprint coverage.
I think a lot of you need to remember that sprint is doing all kinds of stuff to towers lately and other issues may make your signal bars report differently. I'm still on ei22 and while typing this I watched my signal bars go from 0 - 2
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my battery graph the line is almost like is a nice straight havent seen that in a while i have full bars for wifi and my signal ( airwave) i do have tws but i dont have good coverage like maybe a bar if i am lucky with out the airwave. but no gps lock on
edit: is anyone else have a different phone.apk the main look is the same but when you receive a call?
is the android version still 2.3.5 or is it 2.3.6?
Firehawk_1066 said:
is the android version still 2.3.5 or is it 2.3.6?
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a few things I've noticed:
GPS has improved
bug where GPS icon remains on screen after GPS has been shut off has been fixed
battery life is considerably worse
I'm getting horrible GPS I only get like 4 out of 11 fixs and on my way to work this morning which is about 30 miles I kept losing gps would search for sattelites for forever as soon as i closed navigation it would work again for a few minutes then do it again.
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mikeregister said:
I'm getting horrible GPS I only get like 4 out of 11 fixs and on my way to work this morning which is about 30 miles I kept losing gps would search for sattelites for forever as soon as i closed navigation it would work again for a few minutes then do it again.
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You may want to try resetting your A-GPS state using GPS Status app in the Market.
notsosmrtgeek said:
my battery graph the line is almost like is a nice straight havent seen that in a while i have full bars for wifi and my signal ( airwave) i do have tws but i dont have good coverage like maybe a bar if i am lucky with out the airwave. but no gps lock on
edit: is anyone else have a different phone.apk the main look is the same but when you receive a call?
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yes the recieve screen is very different.
dead78 said:
a few things I've noticed:
GPS has improved
bug where GPS icon remains on screen after GPS has been shut off has been fixed
battery life is considerably worse
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i've noticed considerably better battery life, but I am rooted and use TiBu for freezing stuff.
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Has the rotation sensor been jerky for you in the past (skymap/yelp/other AR apps) and has EL30 made it smooth again?
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Yes rotation sensor was upside down starting in EB13 Froyo and has been until EL30. You could fix it though by doing your horizontal calibration upside down. Now you don't have to.
dead78 said:
a few things I've noticed:
GPS has improved
bug where GPS icon remains on screen after GPS has been shut off has been fixed
battery life is considerably worse
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Funny, I was just about to post a little message about my stupidity and battery life.
Since I keep things mostly stock, my upgrade routine was to backup apk/data, and system data in MyBackup, then reflash back to stock EI22, install the EL30 update, do the CWM/root dance, and restore stuff in MyBackup. All went well, but my battery life was about %70 of what it was. For the first 2 days I just figured I was playing with the phone too much, but today I started plowing through the settings. What I found was that even though I had restored everything in MyBackup, not every setting stuck. For instance, Facebook was set to update every hour even though it had previously been set to never update. I also had to re-freeze DRM after the install. There may still be more things I haven't found.
The point is after an upgrade, especially if you have re-installed stuff, go through every setting you can think of that could be killing your battery. It's possible that some app has been inadvertently set to connect too often and that is what is killing the battery too fast.
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You may want to try resetting your A-GPS state using GPS Status app in the Market.
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That was the very first thing I tried and it hasn't made a difference.
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GPS fix takes forever

When I place the Note 3 in the windowsill, it takes minutes to get a fix. Lift it up and hold it to the window, it takes 30-60 seconds. 3-4 meters from the window, in the sofa? Forget about it. It is as if the a-gps isn't active and a fix has to be established the old fashioned way.
All localization options are turned on. I have tried a clean setup, but no difference. Never had this problem with my Note 2. Do I have bad hardware, or have I missed something?
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When I place the Note 3 in the windowsill, it takes minutes to get a fix. Lift it up and hold it to the window, it takes 30-60 seconds. 3-4 meters from the window, in the sofa? Forget about it. It is as if the a-gps isn't active and a fix has to be established the old fashioned way.
All localization options are turned on. I have tried a clean setup, but no difference. Never had this problem with my Note 2. Do I have bad hardware, or have I missed something?
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Maybe faulty gps hardware. Mine locks on in about a second every time inside or outside
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Mine is fast too.... looks like you may have a faulty one.
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It's a function of satellite geometry. The one thing agps does for you is help you get the gps almanac faster. With a fresh almanac, the receiver knows which satellites are in view which significantly speeds up the time it takes to get a fix. Having access to fresh almanac data can't make the satellites any more visible though. Take your phone outside with a clear view of the sky. If you still can't aquire a fix, then you might have a problem. Saying it doesn't work reliably indoors is akin to saying you can't hear the speaker very well when its underwater.
I'm sure many will jump in with anecdotal evidence of gps working indoors, but that still can't fix bad geometry. You need 4 vehicles in view to get a fix.
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Thanks for all the replies. Looks like my hardware might be bad.
I am aware how this works. Have had more than 30 top of the line smartphones with gps since the Mio A701, which is almost ten years ago. The Note 3 has the worst indoor reception I have seen for at least five years. Ever since a-gps and wifi locationing, getting a fix indoor haven't been a problem. That's why I said it seems like the a-gps isn't working. But I guess it always will work, as long as there's a data channel open, right?
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Thanks for all the replies. Looks like my hardware might be bad.
I am aware how this works. Have had more than 30 top of the line smartphones with gps since the Mio A701, which is almost ten years ago. The Note 3 has the worst indoor reception I have seen for at least five years. Ever since a-gps and wifi locationing, getting a fix indoor haven't been a problem. That's why I said it seems like the a-gps isn't working. But I guess it always will work, as long as there's a data channel open, right?
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Indoor reception is on a par with the Galaxy S4 which my partner has. I find it hard to get a signal indoors with either but my Nexus 7 is a lot better at it. I wouldn't be too quick to accept this as a hardware fault, just a design fault.
Once you've obtained a fix, agps becomes moot. Your receiver already knows which satellites are in view. If you can't get fix minutes later agps isn't the issue. It's los to the satellites.
I'm speaking to you as someone who actually works at the Gps master control station.
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I do reboot between tests, as the hardest fix is the first. That said, the following takes longer than I would expect too, but not nearly as long as the first.
When strolling today, I checked the g-maps fix twice, with said reboot in between. Both times I had a fix in 8-10 seconds. That's about the same time my iPhone 5 uses without any data (a-gps), but still way better than yesterdays results. Can't figure out why this changes so much.

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