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hi all,
I'm a lucky owner of a blackstone since 2 days.
I would like to use voip, i installed wm6voip and setupvoip.
I configured correctly all but i still have "no service".
I have a dell x50v with wm6 too and voip work fine on it.
My HD was sell from french sfr.
Can someone help me ?
sorry for my bad english

anyone to help me ??
What about voip on the hd ??

have a look here
this one works on HD.

6Fg8 said:
have a look here
this one works on HD.
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Not for me! gives the same problem as the wm voipcab (sound from the rear speaker, and low volume)

Try this one:
Fring!
Works very well on my HD!

jacare said:
Try this one:
Fring!
Works very well on my HD!
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Tnx! but if i use fring. fring servers will be a proxy for my voip. I dont like that thing!

cobrawnl said:
Tnx! but if i use fring. fring servers will be a proxy for my voip. I dont like that thing!
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I have a different approach. I load WMWIFIRouter on HD, which creates a Wlan and connect a Netgear Skype Handy to this Wlan.
I knoe it a different way but... just a suggestion.

WALTERPAVESIHTC said:
I have a different approach. I load WMWIFIRouter on HD, which creates a Wlan and connect a Netgear Skype Handy to this Wlan.
I knoe it a different way but... just a suggestion.
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Wow wow Wow!
i dont get realy what youre meaning. But i think you mean that you are using WMWIFIRouter on your mobile phone to share your 3G internet with your laptop via wifi... and youre using then a sip client at your laptop ...
Great sollution! But i dont want to need my laptop for making a phonecall to my asterisk server

cobrawnl said:
Tnx! but if i use fring. fring servers will be a proxy for my voip. I dont like that thing!
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Only if you use skype or msn.
I am almost sure that Fring servers will not be a proxy if you use SIP.

jacare said:
Only if you use skype or msn.
I am almost sure that Fring servers will not be a proxy if you use SIP.
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Hmm, Never mind! I dont like fring.. Have you ever tried the buildin WM6VOIP.cab?
if you see that! you dont ever never jever go back to fring!

cobrawnl said:
Hmm, Never mind! I dont like fring.. Have you ever tried the buildin WM6VOIP.cab?
if you see that! you dont ever never jever go back to fring!
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I know what you mean..... And yes i've tried
But I can't find a way of putting WM6VOIP.cab working with the normal Earpiece.... Just like Fring do....

hmm you need the speakerswitch ... pm me your mail adress.. i will send it to you

Ok so... I've been using VoIP for a while on the HD and those are my findings:
1) WM6VOIP.CAB messes things up with GPS, eg. you will no longer be able to use GPS nor uninstal voip.cab.. so if you want your HD fully functional (as before the installation of the cab).. you have to Hard Reset!
2) My operator (Wind - Italy) blocks VOIP on their HSDPA/3G line therefore forcing you to use WiFi BUT if you use WIFI normally when the phone turns the display off to save power it also disables WiFi.. ending the call. You have to use then Advanced Config to disable this behaviour (always on mode for WiFi)..
I made also different tests and tried different programs and at the end of the day I found the voip experience with WinMo to be very unpleasant at the point where you gladly pay a bit more to make phone calls the traditional way.. (do not forget that you have a consistent lag while speaking in VOIP)..

Eraser85 said:
Ok so... I've been using VoIP for a while on the HD and those are my findings:
1) WM6VOIP.CAB messes things up with GPS, eg. you will no longer be able to use GPS nor uninstal voip.cab.. so if you want your HD fully functional (as before the installation of the cab).. you have to Hard Reset!
2) My operator (Wind - Italy) blocks VOIP on their HSDPA/3G line therefore forcing you to use WiFi BUT if you use WIFI normally when the phone turns the display off to save power it also disables WiFi.. ending the call. You have to use then Advanced Config to disable this behaviour (always on mode for WiFi)..
I made also different tests and tried different programs and at the end of the day I found the voip experience with WinMo to be very unpleasant at the point where you gladly pay a bit more to make phone calls the traditional way.. (do not forget that you have a consistent lag while speaking in VOIP)..
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Hi Eraser85,
There is a solution for the GPS problem with wm6voip.cab there is no hard reset required..
for your 3g problem:
Have you tried to uncheck the checkbox "This connections connects with a proxy server" in your connection settings..
That will help a lot when youre trying to call via 3g
the lag issue is a very little problem. When a call is for free i dont have any problems with that

Get Sipdroid to work with any SIP provider on your Android phone

Sipdroid allows you to use Android phone with almost any SIP provider. The calls are crystal clear even over a 3G network, likewise for a WLAN connection. The best part about Sipdroid is that it integrates into your phone, eliminating the need for a separate phone book. You simply use your Android contacts in the same way as if you were making a call over a cellular network. It’s really an amazing application that is stable and simple to use, with the potential to save you plenty of money.
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http://seethisnowreadthis.com/2009/...-with-any-sip-provider-on-your-android-phone/
I thought I would share this with the community here...

Uh, right. That, in fact, does NOT make it work with "any" sip provider, it makes it work with pbxes same as always.

Pbxes.org is the only way to get a betamax provider working with Sipdroid.

VOIP-SIP

I have my my voip account working on fring everything is great including the call quality 3g/wifi. I like some of the features of the other voip/sip clients and have downloaded everyone from the market (yes everyone) the problem is call quality is really bad enem over wifi and 3g forget about it. Anyone have same issue or setting that work great on anyother app.

3cx
sorry, i can't answer your question, but have you been able to get the 3cx app to work? It is supposedly a good one but has been in/out of the market. what voip provider do you use? btw

This is the only one I cant get to work. I use Nextiva for VOIP

this weekend ill give some input on various sip clients and how they register to both viatalk and various cisco devices (cucm, cme, etc).
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[How to] Using VOIP + Encrypted VPN, just confirmed working in Belize

I'd like to save everyone the trouble of figuring out how to get this done by sharing my setup with you. The VOIP itself works great over 3G/4G and Wifi, but to use the VPN you'll need to be on Wifi, 3g VPN doesn't seem to work.
Requirements:
SipDroid app in the market
A free account at pbxes.org
A paid account at callcentric.com (~$.019 a minute to call anywhere in the US)
A paid account at SuperVPN.net ($4 /mo if you pay for the whole year)
First set up a pbxes.org account, and connect to it with the SipDroid app, I recommend using this guide to walk you through the process.
http://guardianproject.info/2010/05...e-mobile-phone-system-for-android-and-beyond/
Once you have that working there is one crucial adjustment to be made within SipDroid. For some reason it comes default with all sorts of audio codecs, but only ONE of them seemed to work on the EVO, the Speex codec. So go into audio codecs and switch everything but speex to "never".
After that you should have a working VOIP system but you'll still need some kind of trunk if you want to make outgoing calls to land lines or cell phones. There are many solutions for this but I recommend callcentric.com, they seem to be the most recommended for this type of setup, and they worked great for me. You can pay $20 a month for unlimited US calling, this means you can be anywhere in the world and call the US for just $20 a month. Or you can prepay (this is what I did), then you pay a flat rate of about $.019 a minute to call the US from anywhere, and if you reach you pre paid limit, it just cuts off until you recharge it.
Once you have your callcentric account purchased, just go into your pbxes.org admin area and under trunks add one for call centric, use your callcentric # as the username, and callcentric.com as the sip server. Then go under Outbound routing, add a new one, name it whatever and choose your callcentric trunk from the pulldown menu, submit the changes and you're done.
Now you should be able to successfully make outbound calls to anywhere using SipDroid.
Lastly, this was the most challenging for me, the VPN. Apparently android, including 2.2, has some major issues with maintaining vpn connections, especially when you try and use them for VOIP. There is a huge issue queue in the android google groups forum where the problem is openly discussed without a real solution. BUT, while it appears the majority of VPN connections will fail, they CAN work if you get it set up just right. Setting up VPN's, specifically VPN's tailored for mobile devices, is not something I know how to do. In the android group thread someone mentioned SuperVPN.net as a working solution, I checked it out and sure enough they work great, I had zero problems with them the whole time I was out of the country.
So create a supervpn.net account, and then on your phone go into Menu -> Wireless & Networks -> VPN -> Add VPN -> Add PPTP VPN, create the connection and you are good to go.
*I didn't set up an inbound call # with callcentric as I didn't need one, I assume after you upgrade your callcentric account, adding the inbound trunk is similar to the outbound. Be sure and look into getting a free inbound number from sipgate.com before you go and pay for one, you'll be locked to a California area code, but free is free.

An alternative I use is having an Asterisk server at home and use IAXAgent from the market. IAX does not have the problems that SIP does when going over NAT. I can make calls over 3G or wifi. A lot of SIP providers also provide IAX accounts. IAX is just a better way to go for making calls over the Internet. SIP is excellent for the LAN.

ChrisDos said:
An alternative I use is having an Asterisk server at home and use IAXAgent from the market. IAX does not have the problems that SIP does when going over NAT. I can make calls over 3G or wifi. A lot of SIP providers also provide IAX accounts. IAX is just a better way to go for making calls over the Internet. SIP is excellent for the LAN.
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Oops.. the method I posted actually works on 3g and 4g also, it's only the VPN that requires Wifi, I had worded it incorrectly, now it's fixed. (thank you)
I looked into setting up an asterisk server, but I didn't want to have to depend on my own server or home connection being available whenever I needed it, especially when I was traveling for more than a week.
Is IAX the same as a trunk, does it cost anything to connect to land lines or cellphones?

True, you method does make SIP work because you are using a VPN. IAX is an alternative to SIP. It is NAT friendly, and as long as the port is not blocked, it just works. Though, there are a fewer choices for clients compared to SIP. IAX was created by the Asterisk team. I do not know of any VOIP systems that support IAX, bug that does not mean they dont exist. I am a heavy Astersk guy, so IAX was my cup of tea.

What advantages does this have over google voice?
I'm curious cause i'll be going to england soon and would be nice to make calls over wifi.

ShoxV said:
What advantages does this have over google voice?
I'm curious cause i'll be going to england soon and would be nice to make calls over wifi.
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None, in fact, it his disadvantages (See below). Also, most businesses, schools, etc. will block just about every VPN method. OpenVPN is the most flexible one I have found, which might be able to sneak around by using alternate sub-1000 ports (which most places won't block, since they require root access on whatever server they're running from).
OP: Might wanna take a look at this...
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/supervpn.net

drmacinyasha said:
None, in fact, it his disadvantages (See below). Also, most businesses, schools, etc. will block just about every VPN method. OpenVPN is the most flexible one I have found, which might be able to sneak around by using alternate sub-1000 ports (which most places won't block, since they require root access on whatever server they're running from).
OP: Might wanna take a look at this...
http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/supervpn.net
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Not sure what you're talking about, it saved me hundreds of dollars in roaming minutes while I was in Belize. Some places do block vpns I'm sure but I never had any issues, but you don't need the vpn itself unless you're in a country that blocks voip altogether, at which point occasional vpn is greater than no vpn.
Also supervpn was the only method I found that actually works on android, I think the risks referenced in that link you posted really only apply to desktop vpn use, not phones. Openvpn is great for somewhat advanced users and if you have a computer you can depend on as a server while you're out of the country for days or weeks, this guide isn't meant for someone capable of managing that.
As for Google voice, it just initiates an inbound call to your actual cell number, which does zero good when you're trying to avoid roaming. Now the new gmail implementation of voice shows promise as an actual voip solution, but currently that version is desktop only from what I can tell.

VoIP?

How does it work on Gingerbread?
Do you need a Gizmo5 / Sipgate account etc?
Anyone tested it?

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Paul22000 said:
How does it work on Gingerbread?
Do you need a Gizmo5 / Sipgate account etc?
Anyone tested it?
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I believe its just there for applications that wish to take advantage of it,

It's in Call Settings/Internet Call settings. You will need some sort of VOIP account.
Works well. You can set it to dial out using that account with various parameters, and choose to use that account to receive calls.
Works well.

DebauchedSloth said:
It's in Call Settings/Internet Call settings. You will need some sort of VOIP account.
Works well. You can set it to dial out using that account with various parameters, and choose to use that account to receive calls.
Works well.
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nice!
can someone post a screenshot of the dept of details available?
I mean: what settings can you put in there?
ICE? STUN? secure rtp? and so on
what's the battery usage?
can you set it to register to the sip gateway only when on wifi or policies like that?
thanks

Paul22000 said:
How does it work on Gingerbread?
Do you need a Gizmo5 / Sipgate account etc?
Anyone tested it?
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It seems to work with the new SIP that comes with Nexus S. BUT..After studying all the documentation and going thru all the screens it appears that it will only work of wifi? So, I removed all my info on that sip account on the Nexus S and installed the Sipdroid/Gizmo5/GVCall back as per your previous post on the "how to". This method gives me the option of wifi OR 3G. It appears to work . The little green led shows up on top (it does not when using the new SIP stuff on Nexus S) so everything appears to be configured correctly. I have not fully tested it but my bet is that it will work over both wifi and 3G unless of course TMobile somehow prevents this.

I actually ended up going to Best Buy last night to check out the Nexus S
The SIP stuff is in the settings, with not too many options. And yes, you have to put in an account. It does nothing unless you have your own SIP account. (What a letdown, Google.) So basically it's just an integrated SipDroid app into the OS, but with very, very few options.
Of course I didn't want to put in my own Gizmo account details into the Best Buy display phone (it didn't have internet access anyway... Best Buy Fail), so I couldn't test it. But there's an option to select when to use VoIP and I forget but the option to select "All Calls" says right next to it "Wifi only" or something.
So I'd imagine this is pretty much useless because
A) It won't allow 3G VoIP
B) For those using VoIP before, other apps (such as CSipSimple) have WAAAAY more options.
C) And in terms of networking/etc, they might even function better since they've been around longer and have been optimized/etc. (Of course, I didn't test that, but just going by CSipSimple's settings menu, there seems to be a lot of customization/options/features.)
Oh yeah, in case anyone's interested:
[Guide] Unlimited Wifi/3G VoIP Calling

How's the battery life using the integrated sip?
I've seen my battery cut by almost half for using CSipDroid and was hoping an integrated SIP, as basic as it is, wouldn't drain the battery that much.

Wonder what call & connection quality is like too??

A very limited unscientific test, but calling in to a conference call today using the built-in SIP client resulted in everybody but me hearing an echo. Using a SPA2102 on the same Internet connection resulted in a clear call with no echo. I've done a lot of tests using my Vibrant and could never get the quality acceptable for SIP calls without echo and still be able to hear the other party. The Nexus S so far has performed better, but in my opinion from limited tests still suffers the same type of issue.

Well, I did some more testing today as my previous test was just a quickie-that is with the "Sipdroid/Gizmo5/GVcallback" method. With that method I could ring to/from another phone BUT when I tested further, I could only talk/hear from one end while the other phone could hear me, I could NOT hear anything that they were saying. When using the resident SIP that comes with the Nexus S, I could hear/talk on both ends (my Nexus to another phone) over wifi of course. I don't know if this is coming off my minutes yet and will check later today to see that.
So it seems that indeed one can only "Sip" call from the Nexus S via wifi with the SIP that comes resident with the Nexus S. Of course with Sipdroid there are a lot of other settings that I have not explored and maybe it needs to be tweaked? But for now, I am gonna stick with the resident SIP in the Nexus S.
An interesting thing also is that I tried the app "Fring" on my Nexus and that did not work correctly either on my Nexus S.

Paul22000 said:
The SIP stuff is in the settings, with not too many options. And yes, you have to put in an account. It does nothing unless you have your own SIP account. (What a letdown, Google.) So basically it's just an integrated SipDroid app into the OS, but with very, very few options.
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Thank you to everyone here for posting some really useful information about Android 2.3 and SIP. I have a sipgate account and the day I bought my Nexus S (I stood in line in cold weather in the morning to get it), shortly after I brought it back to my office, I was able to "just barely" get it to work with my sipgate account. By "just barely" I mean that I was able to place a few outgoing calls but the latency was so extreme there is no way I could use it again. Now what is quite amusing is that I also have a 2008 unlocked Nokia E71 running Symbian (which has a pretty decent built-in SIP stack in its firmware from Nokia (this is before Nokia caved to the mobile telecoms and started to remove their SIP stack from their smart phones). Well well well, I have *zero* problems with my E71 and my sipgate account (other than some latency but the latency I can pretty much live with, I just have to make sure I don't cut off the other person speaking during a conversation and wait for them to finish their point). Actually, latency is really undesirable but the point being is that the Nexus S is my first Android phone and one of the selling points is Android 2.3 built in SIP stack bundled with the unlocked no-contract Nexus S (I paid full price at Best Buy) and for all the cackling and hoopla Google has been doing on their web sites about Nexus S built-in SIP, that I can't get it to work with sipgate buy my Symbian E71 works with sipgate pretty nicely, this is egg on the face of Google and they should be admonished for their marketing faux pas on SIP / VOIP in Nexus S. It makes me wonder if Google is somehow trying to cripple the built-in SIP stack and configuration options on the Nexus S such as to possibly somehow tilt the playing field to favor Google Voice (I.e., forget VOIP on your Nexus S, just get a mobile carrier service on 3G like T-Mobile account and then maximize the heck out of our Google Voice service). Don't get me wrong, I appreciate Google Voice, but if you're going to put YouTube videos together to promote open protocols, user choice, "Pure Google" and so on, at least make your SIP stack on par with the often lately made-fun-of Symbian which has a superior SIP stack and SIP configuration UI options on the Nokia E71 compared to the Nexus S!
note to Google: don't blame sipgate, this is an Android SIP stack and configuration issue.

Question:
When you call out, what number does it show as caller ID?
Your cell number?
Google Voice number?
SIP number?
Other?

Nexus S VOIP
I was able to setup my Nexus S to work with my VOIP provider Callcentric. The built in Google Nexus S SIP stack only works on Wifi & not with 3G. You can place SIP calls on Wifi with no additional applications installed as long as you have a account with any VOIP provider who uses/allows SIP.
I used Nokia N97 & N95 for years for making & receiving SIP calls with 3G but the voice quality is usually poor on 3G networks.
Using the native Google Nexus S SIP stack on Wifi I called my parents in India, I used it for approximately 45 minutes, the call quality is not as good when compared with the call quality using Nokia N97 on Wifi networks. The volume is very low even when I turned the Nexus S Speakerphone on and set the volume to maximum. I heard echo most of the time when I was talking, the other side had no issues with echo.
The SIP stack on Nexus S needs some work and I am sure there will be more customization features added in the future. I'd not blame google on the missing 3G voip feature yet as my previous experience on 3G sip calls with Nokia weren't too great. Nokia had sip enabled phones for years and it is still not perfect when making calls on 3G network.
Finally when making calls using SIP the other party sees your SIP number. If your VOIP provider allows it, you can customize your outgoing number to display your cell phone number or any other custom number.

My phone fails registration on Callcentric. Any idea why?
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I was able to setup my Nexus S to work with my VOIP provider Callcentric. The built in Google Nexus S SIP stack only works on Wifi & not with 3G. You can place SIP calls on Wifi with no additional applications installed as long as you have a account with any VOIP provider who uses/allows SIP.
I used Nokia N97 & N95 for years for making & receiving SIP calls with 3G but the voice quality is usually poor on 3G networks.
Using the native Google Nexus S SIP stack on Wifi I called my parents in India, I used it for approximately 45 minutes, the call quality is not as good when compared with the call quality using Nokia N97 on Wifi networks. The volume is very low even when I turned the Nexus S Speakerphone on and set the volume to maximum. I heard echo most of the time when I was talking, the other side had no issues with echo.
The SIP stack on Nexus S needs some work and I am sure there will be more customization features added in the future. I'd not blame google on the missing 3G voip feature yet as my previous experience on 3G sip calls with Nokia weren't too great. Nokia had sip enabled phones for years and it is still not perfect when making calls on 3G network.
Finally when making calls using SIP the other party sees your SIP number. If your VOIP provider allows it, you can customize your outgoing number to display your cell phone number or any other custom number.
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Errors in registration may be due to multiple reasons. With the limited number of options we have for settings, my guess would be either incorrect login information or wrong transport type selection.
Here are my callcentric settings. May be these settings will help others too.
username: Your sip username* (Example: 17771234567)
*Do not include @callcentric.com as suffix. Also, this is not your regular callcentric account login name.
Password: Your sip password *Not the callcentric account login password
Server: callcentric.com
Optional Settings:
Outbound Proxy Address: callcentric.com
port number: 5060
Transport type: UDP