We need either more moderators or some people with more time on their hands. No offense to any current moderators of the Droid 2 section or anything, but this place is ridiculously cluttered and unorganized. People asking questions in development or the theme/app section should be posted in the general chat or within the same topic of the subject of their question. People in the development section posting multiple topics every time they update their ROM, the amount of topics and confusion could easily be cut down tremendously. If you go to any other phones development section on XDA, you see that everyone just updates their first post. Don't worry about your post count or people not noticing that you've updated, they will notice it.
Figured I should post this, because there are a ton of unneeded and misplaced posts.
For reference...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731652
I know who the current moderator is, but he isn't taking care of our section. It needs to be cleaned, hence the nature of my topic.
I'm also not trying to attack him/her in anyway, as you can tell from the link you posted they oversee A LOT of sections, and that's a lot of work for one person.
kwheel596 said:
I know who the current moderator is, but he isn't taking care of our section. It needs to be cleaned, hence the nature of my topic.
I'm also not trying to attack him/her in anyway, as you can tell from the link you posted they oversee A LOT of sections, and that's a lot of work for one person.
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That wasn't meant just for you, not everyone knows how to find that info.
You should probably PM Captainkrtek to start with. That seems like the politic thing to do.
What is the reason for the multuple thread closings in this forum lately.
I was under the impression that a "forum" was a place for open discussion and opinion.
It seems that we now have moderators among us that close threads based on their opinion rather than the relevance of the discussion contained within them.
There are both positive and negative reactions to the X10 and its progression or lack thereof.
These posts are in the general section of the respective forum and should be left open for contribution.
I am not condonig flaming or childish rants but open and intelligent discussion makes good reading.
If moderators are intent on cleaning up the forum, then archiving old threads should be the priority.
Moderator, please close this thread...
I don't know why the mods closed some threads based on discussion of 2.1 features, rumours etc, or why they banned iead1, lonelee and fm1776 (well... not really fm1776)
But I do agree with them closing threads that are started by people who don't bother to search and repeatedly ask the same question over and over again, like:
- When are we getting 2.1
- Is there Multitouch in 2.1
- How do i root my phone
- I'm so sick of my x10
- I sold my x10, bye forum (this is the one that irritates me the most)
this 2.1 delays make this forum one of most hostile places that I visit regularly. And like almost everyone here, I just visit looking for some info about the upgrades.
k1sr said:
Moderator, please close this thread...
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Ha ah ahahaha ah .. Holy Crap Batman...you K1sr are one terrible dude...
augie7107 said:
I am not condonig flaming or childish rants but open and intelligent discussion makes good reading.
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That's the problem, there isn't any "open and intelligent discussion." All I see is "SE Sux," "good bye SE, hello [brand name]" and all the other "emotional" comments rather than facts.
Also the more useless threads like this one remaining open slow the XDA server down.
MOD's please close this thread.
P.S that's what the sticky's are for, but nobody ever reads them.
Q. why do mods close the threads:
A. there are many reasons..
1. New threads are opened even when threads already exist which cater to similar discussions. if a person does a search, i m sure he will find a thread to post his matter in.
2. this is a device forum.. threads opened are sum-times absolutely unrelated to the device. now such threads are breeding grounds for flame wars etc and we dont want such threads.
3. most threads are ending up in flame wars... unable to control such flame wars results in closing/deltion of such threads.
i hope i have answered your questions.
chetan
THREAD CLOSED..
Hi guys, I've been assigned as the lead forum moderator for the Epic forum.
The other moderators are theimpaler747 and rolfd
Feel free to PM me any qualms you may have. Any.
Mikey1022 said:
With that being said, please take a moment to review XDA forum rules. Anyone found intentionally violating these rules will be punished.
The most important "rule" I urge you not to forget is, HAVE FUN and BE COURTEOUS! Thank you and I look forward to keeping "ORDer" and "Peace" throughout the forum.
Thinking of posting a new thread???
Use the search button on the top bar between "New Posts" and "Quick Links"
Threads posted in the wrong fora will be moved initially; however, for repeat offenders, the moderating team will look to take action to rectify the situation in a manner it believes is appropriate
WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE.
It is the responsibility of all users to keep the fora organized and clean. We need you to do your bit to keep things orderly.
REPORT THEM
To the dedicated members that care to keep this forum, sub forums included, clean and organized and grouped.
Please start reporting threads to the mods to take action. Please use the REPORT button to do so.
Thank You and happy easy searching.
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I am reiterating what Deca said above. It is just me and Jayharper08 now. Adding to the above, I will move threads to where they belong without notice since that only serves to bump the thread. Q&A is for ALL questions. General is for announcements and general statements (including rants apparently). I think we will keep surveys in the General forum for now unless people object, because they really are a question.
With that said the Epic community is fantastic. So much so that with all the traffic here the top guys felt you only need 2 mods. So let's all help to make this the shining star of XDA.
Thanks
FNM
It is well known that the Fascinate forums have been quiet. Many people have moved on to different phones and forums. In fact, it seemed like the Fascinate forums would wither away.
Then something changed. Enyo came to these forums and reinvigorated them and brought them back to their former glory. Gone were the days of few posts and nothing interesting. Good times were back again. ROMS were released. Lulz were had.
Then the dark clouds of oppression began to gather once more. Forum users complained that other users complained too much. People began to fail to see humor in life and started reporting Enyo's threads. The threads that have given us so much joy and are quite frankly one of the few reasons many of us even come to xda any more have been closed.
So, should xda continue to close Enyo's threads?
No. I enjoy shanangens and asshatery.
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No way his threads take xda to a me level of entertainment with many lols. They are way to much fun. Won't be surprised if this thread gets closed as well
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Keep the threads going! Till the truth comes out. They are very interesting. Maybe he is sincerely trying his best to learn how. The whole problem is, his problem with the truth, if he would have said look I'm learning, i can't make any promises, have patience with me etc. It would be whole different ball game. But hey let him learn.
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I imagine this thread will be closed as well, unfortunately Just ask Old Man James what happened when he petitioned to have the "poll" thread reopened
Has anyone seen John Connor?
This thread isn't concerned with retroactively overturning decisions like that poll was. This thread is taking a poll on the general consensus for prospective policy.
No keep them open! Im finding this stuff to be full of lulz. At first I was a bit uptight about the flaming, but the more enyo posts, the more he brings it on himself. I respect the fact he is putting a effort into bringing the fascinate commmunity more roms, but he could stand to be a bit more tactful with his threads/posts. Then again maybe enyo is a know dev that created another account to mess with us abit...you guys got me thinking now. who is enyo actually...the unsolved mysteries of xda lol.
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This thread isn't concerned with retroactively overturning decisions like that poll was. This thread is taking a poll on the general consensus for prospective policy.
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I can try to create some lulz threads of my own, but I could never hope to attain to Enyo's level of mastery and sheer comedic dominance
Has anyone seen John Connor?
All this thread closing has to be affecting morale. I need him in good spirits so we can get a Honeycome port on our Gameboy Colors.
Enyo is a great developer of roms. What else would 25/16 of Fascinate users use? I look forward to his webOS ROM.
all i can say at this point is that i only closed one of enyo's threads and it was not for my own opinion or any user reports, but enyo himself requested the closing. as the op of that specific thread he was entitled to that, just like any noobs that posts a [Q] thread can demand to have it closed or deleted once they have the answers they wanted or for whatever other reason there might be.
Also, as stated on another thread before, personally, i don't mind a little off-topic posting, fun and general discussion. after all, no tv and no beer make homer something something...
however, one must not forget that xda-dev has 4 million users, one million threads and the reputation of being THE smartphone community, THE go-to forum for news, apps, tweaks, roms and hacks and that is something that should be kept that way. new users should not get the impression that all this is, is flaming, trolling and memes. there are other places on the internet for that. just look at what happened to the comments on engadget, or engadget altogether.
so, to a certain point, you can keep having fun, but before you post, please think about the big picture, whether your post is really necessary and what would happen, if everybody here posted like that and useful information would be buried under tons of crap, what happens to users that need actual help with their semi-broken devices and all they find is lulz.
So, to get back to the question at hand:
- i believe that any thread starter should be entitled to decide, whether or not his/her thread should be closed
- if there are too many reports by other users about a thread getting out of hand, it should not be closed, but the reported posts should be deleted and the users should eventually be infracted. in general, if it was not the op, that was reported, he/she should not suffer for having their thread hijacked
- this thread, as well as the other poll will neither be closed nor deleted YET, as you are free to discuss issues like this, but once these polls had a run of a week or two, there should be enough results in on how the community feels, and i will follow the results. if this turns out to be another troll thread, it will be closed /deleted before that.
Skrazz said:
All this thread closing has to be affecting morale. I need him in good spirits so we can get a Honeycome port on our Gameboy Colors.
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Love the sig Skrazz
Has anyone seen John Connor?
Chef_Tony said:
all i can say at this point is that i only closed one of enyo's threads and it was not for my own opinion or any user reports, but enyo himself requested the closing. as the op of that specific thread he was entitled to that, just like any noobs that posts a [Q] thread can demand to have it closed or deleted once they have the answers they wanted or for whatever other reason there might be.
Also, as stated on another thread before, personally, i don't mind a little off-topic posting, fun and general discussion. after all, no tv and no beer make homer something something...
however, one must not forget that xda-dev has 4 million users, one million threads and the reputation of being THE smartphone community, THE go-to forum for news, apps, tweaks, roms and hacks and that is something that should be kept that way. new users should not get the impression that all this is, is flaming, trolling and memes. there are other places on the internet for that. just look at what happened to the comments on engadget, or engadget altogether.
so, to a certain point, you can keep having fun, but before you post, please think about the big picture, whether your post is really necessary and what would happen, if everybody here posted like that and useful information would be buried under tons of crap, what happens to users that need actual help with their semi-broken devices and all they find is lulz.
So, to get back to the question at hand:
- i believe that any thread starter should be entitled to decide, whether or not his/her thread should be closed
- if there are too many reports by other users about a thread getting out of hand, it should not be closed, but the reported posts should be deleted and the users should eventually be infracted. in general, if it was not the op, that was reported, he/she should not suffer for having their thread hijacked
- this thread, as well as the other poll will neither be closed nor deleted YET, as you are free to discuss issues like this, but once these polls had a run of a week or two, there should be enough results in on how the community feels, and i will follow the results. if this turns out to be another troll thread, it will be closed /deleted before that.
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I agree with you man... specially the last part that i bolded and underlined...
but it turns out most/all of these threads turn into people trolling or flaming. it is really really starting to get out of hand and i am getting tired of deleting posts by the tens. and then coming back to the same thread 2 hours later to clean out more junk posts....
regarding ENYO's threads. Him and i have traded pm's and we have agreed to leave the threads closed until he can post some evidence or links regarding his work. If i just reopen them, you trolls and flamers are just gonna start up again, so his threads remain closed until then.
@blobloblaw1 I don't appreciate you opening threads regarding this topic. i know you can discuss this and you aren't breaking any rules but i think you know this is just gonna start more flaming and ultimatly end up in a flame war.
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@blobloblaw1 I don't appreciate you opening threads regarding this topic. i know you can discuss this and you aren't breaking any rules but i think you know this is just gonna start more flaming and ultimatly end up in a flame war.
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I'd prefer to have the conversation and hope that we are all mature enough to handle it rather than stifle discussion because we fear that something annoying might happen. Regardless, discussion on the issue will happen and if that discussion isn't here, it's going to spill over into the ROM threads. Off topic chatter in ROM threads is infinitely more annoying in most people's opinions.
I guess the news that has come out is that the threads were only closed due to OP (Enyo) asking them to be closed. So anyway, this is more of a non-happening than it seemed.
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I agree with you man... specially the last part that i bolded and underlined...
but it turns out most/all of these threads turn into people trolling or flaming. it is really really starting to get out of hand and i am getting tired of deleting posts by the tens. and then coming back to the same thread 2 hours later to clean out more junk posts....
regarding ENYO's threads. Him and i have traded pm's and we have agreed to leave the threads closed until he can post some evidence or links regarding his work. If i just reopen them, you trolls and flamers are just gonna start up again, so his threads remain closed until then.
@blobloblaw1 I don't appreciate you opening threads regarding this topic. i know you can discuss this and you aren't breaking any rules but i think you know this is just gonna start more flaming and ultimatly end up in a flame war.
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fwiw, (and this is just me talking out loud about my own preferences) hype threads shouldnt be allowed or be limited or something
the vast majority of trolling/flaming results from them
i consider myself a legit developer (although xda doesnt seem to want to recognize me as such currently but w/e) and at best ill occasionally put sneak peak pics/coming soon stuff in existing rom threads that i alread maintain....i dont start 5 bazillion threads with ridiculous claims like 243/79ths of the community use my teams work, or just hype up roms that may or may not see the light of day
granted i enjoy the lulz that are associated with all of it, but it seems the main problem isnt going away, which is one particular individual constantly repeating his/hers same mistakes
just label his as waste of time
So since there has been a lot of newcomers lately who have been creating threads in general sections regarding questions/reporting bugs, I decided to make this thread to tell them about what they are supposed to do and what they should avoid.
For newcomers/newbies:
1. If you have a question regarding about your device, post in the Q&A Section
2. If you have bugs about a ROM, post your bugs in the ROM's thread or its Questions thread.
3. If you would want opinions on which phone you should buy, this is not quite the place but you can search for reviews or remarks by people who have used the phone via Google or Youtube (E.g Pocketnow, PhoneArena, Techradar)
For senior members/experienced people:
1. If you see a thread in the wrong section, hit the report button (Triangle button with an exclamation mark at the top right corner) and request for the moderators to move the thread to the correct section.
2. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
3. If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
For everyone:
1. If you would like to share your experience with your device, give a farewell message to others, tell funny stories or just anything off-topic, then post your random words in The Off-Topic Thread
Why?:
1. To keep sections neat and clean
2. To reduce threads that are not helpful to others but to yourself
3. To make moderators' jobs easier
I'm not a forum moderator, but I'm just here to help
I'd also like to add something.
I am tired of the snarky responses in the threads that should be moved. If you don't have anything to say, then don't. Maybe you could help fix the problem at hand and then at the end post something like, "Next time this should go in the Q&A section. I'll report for it to be moved."
There are quite a few people who think that they need to take matters in their own hands. Please stop. You are not part of the solution, but rather part of the problem. Recently The Rules have changed to condense Flaming and Lack of Respect. Snide remarks in threads can lead a person who has nothing invested in the thread getting an infraction.
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing which does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is not acceptable. Treat new members the way you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instruction when you can, showing respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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Please Post All Questions In The Q&A Section.
They do not belong in the General Section.
If you are missing your threads, this is probably why.
They will be moved or closed depending on their material.
Per Rule 15
15. Keep posts/threads on-topic
Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.
•--->General Forums - For news and announcements relating to your device.
•--->Q&A Forums - For all question threads / posts. If there is no Q&A forum use the device General Forum
•Accessories subforum - For posts related to accessories relevant to the phone model
•Development Forums (ones with the word development in the title) - For developers to post release threads e.g. ROMs and Kernels including modifications to Kernels, Bootloaders, ROMs, etc.
•Themes and Apps Forums - For themers to post Themes and App. announcements & discussions including modifications made to Apps and Themes.
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And I'll just leave this here for kicks.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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^^^^ Thanks @Woody for this addition, I can stop biting my tongue hopefully now! I for one know that my first post on XDA was one of those "panic and post" classics!..........and I am eternally grateful that I was helped rather than being shot down in flames.
Any parent will know that encouraging people/youngsters whilst also steering them in the right direction, is infinitely more favourable than scolding and put downs.
We, as members of a community, should nurture talent, not discourage it and personally I would hate to think that I had tried slamming the door in the face of a potential upcoming Chainfire.......that would be very embarrassing.
Nurture the future
Learn wisdom from the past.
Slappy