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Hi All,
I have been reading a lot of messages on both 8525 and 8125 trying to isolate the issue and there doesn't seem to be a straight asnwer anywhere and hence I am trying to get the attention of the users here...
I have a pioneer navigation system with a bluetooth built-in. My previous phone (blackberry) and my wife's treo650 both stay connected with car's bluetooth when on call (never a disconnect). But my new 8525 gets disconnected mid-call (usually after 2 to 5mins, but have also seen a disconnect within 1min). That is, it does pair with the car kit and when there is no call going on, the bluetooth connection never dies. This disconnect only happens mid-call, almost all the times.
I have the latest ROM (1,34.502...., radio: 1.16), got the phone about 2 weeks ago from Amazon.com. Called cingular and they say could be faulty phone and I have searched other forums like audi message board where their car kits are also having the same disconnect problem with 8525, so I doubt this is a single phone issue.
I have taken the 'band' hack and forced the phone to be in either GSM or WCDMA mode and in either modes, the phone still exhibits the same problem (there might not be any connection between the two at all, bluetooth with GSM/WCDMA, but thought there might be some weird connection...but not the case thankfully).
I read somewhere about some bluetooth tweaks on 8125, but never found what those were. I need some help here otherwise I am going to return the 8525 and stay away from it. I need the bluetooth to work efficiently.
thanks for all your help
Phal
San Jose, CA
please help
I really need some help, clue or direction on solving or at least isolating this bluetooth issue. I love the 8525 but if I cannot fix this bluetooth mid-call disconnect issue, I will unfortunately have to return, which I don't want.
What headsets the 8525 works fine with (no drops mid-call)? May be that is a starting point.
Please also give me some links to 8125 tweaks that some talked about? pof/other moderators/anyone?
thanks a lot in advance!!
Phal
I have an Motorola H700, and every once in a while it will disconnect, looking at the phone after that, BT is turned off, turn it back on and it works again...
There are problems with the hardware and the API used to access it, good phone, but I don't think it was ready for the market yet when they released it. It is likely to be corrected in the next ROM release, last I heard from Cingular is mid 2007, but by the way things go, prolly around late 07/early 08.
I'm having similar issues with the BT headset I use, which is a Samsung WEP150. It'll drop midcall to the handset. I'll look and BT is turned off.
The only remote correllation I've found is that it seems to occur when I've received a new email or something a la ActiveStink.. And I haven't really been able to confirm that... But I have definitely noticed it happening then though.
my 8525 does this as well with my factory BT in my 05 Acura TL. Kind of frustrating, have not been able to figure it out yet.
Problems w/ Audi BT as well
Same issues with my Audi Q7 BT. I have seen posts in this and other forums blaming the MS bluetooth stack.
My 8525 worked flawlessly with my Garmin NUVI 660, never disconnected or failed to connect automatically. This is frustrating.
8525 Fix
I had the same problem with the 8525 and my Pioneer Avic-Z1 bluetooth kit.
I hacked the registry to force the bluetooth radio to stay ON, rather than going into sleep mode. This seems to have fixed the problem (although with limited testing at this point).
My calls would consistently disconnect with 2-4 minutes. After the hack, I've had 2 45-minute+ conversations with no trouble.
Here's the fix... install a registry editor (like PHMedit), and add a DWORD here:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Power\State\ Suspend
Add a DWORD called btl1: (note the colon, the colon must be there), with a DWORD value of 2.
Good luck!
My Q7 as well i took the advice of wolfgram and did this to my phone i will let you know how it works it would be a shame to give up this phone but it is really useless if this feature does not work right.
Well this is what i did i did what wolfgram said and it still cut out but not as much so i took the checks off in the advance power mode and never let the phone go to sleep and it works all the time. HTC needs to upgrade thier bluetooth setting not to go to sleep. It must stay active at all times MY phone book and all other info posted into my Q7 with no issues at all and it even sees the bluetooth b4 the MMI system in the car Boots up..
Lance
Resolution I think
I turned off 'Making device discoverable to other devices' and it seems to have solved this problem, I am using the phone with a parrot kit and it kept disconnecting now it works all the time.
Treo 750 doesn't have this problem
Well, hopefully you owners of Hermes have figured out the fix. I had to return it and now got the Treo 750 and can gladly say the problem is not there. The treo 750 has the v1.2, but I guess following the replies here, that possibly Palm fixed the problem by keeping the BT radio on at all times.
In any case, here is the post I wrote in avic411.com forum - if you want to see any follow up responses by other owners..
http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24170
cheers
Phal
Bluetooth cut out
I am having the problem too with the garmin Nuvi and the Tytn - which is ineresting seeing as how one poster had no problem with the Garmin device. Here is something else that is interesting - I did not have the problem when I had the HTC 1.18 Rom installed. After I flashed the HTC 1.35 Rom, the problem began. I have already tried upgrading my firmware on the Nuvi - that did not help. I also use a Nokia 800 bluetooth headset - and that never cuts out with either ROM. I will try turning off the bluetooth discovery first. If that does not work, will try editing the registry. Keep you posted.
Turning off bluetooth discovery did not work.
Turning Off Bluetooth Did Not Work For Me Either
this worked for me.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=247520&page=10
drains the battery quicker, but no more bluetooth problems.....
Hey guys, has anybody found a solution for the auto turning off of the BT in suspend mode? its gettin really annoying
So, I have been looking on the forum for 3 days know commenting on all forums with questions regarding BT. Now I do know that BT on WP7 does not allow to transfer files. I also know that Headsets are able to connect, however.... my phones does not allow it for some reason.
Like the title says I really need Handsfree for my daily life.
My phone does not find my headset, it just keeps searching. I kept it next to each other for 1 hour.... after a hour still searching...
I know Bluetooth is on the Update list when it comes to the next step in cracking WP7, but allot of you guys use BT with a headset, any other have this problem? How do you fix this problem?
I heard it might have something to do with the Radio, that correct?
Please guys help me out!
I'm using a Parrot carkit on BT and that works just fine. The Parrot (that's nothing more than a headset) shows up in my BT devices and I can make the connection. I'm using the 'default' DFT WP7. Exept from a terrible battery usage, WP7 works magic !
I use sony ericsson bluetooth HBH IV835. Never been any problem at all.
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So, I have been looking on the forum for 3 days know commenting on all forums with questions regarding BT. Now I do know that BT on WP7 does not allow to transfer files. I also know that Headsets are able to connect, however.... my phones does not allow it for some reason.
Like the title says I really need Handsfree for my daily life.
My phone does not find my headset, it just keeps searching. I kept it next to each other for 1 hour.... after a hour still searching...
I know Bluetooth is on the Update list when it comes to the next step in cracking WP7, but allot of you guys use BT with a headset, any other have this problem? How do you fix this problem?
I heard it might have something to do with the Radio, that correct?
Please guys help me out!
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I have the same problem. One guy said that his bluetooth started working when he flashed the Moon Light Rom, I flashed it and it still did not work for me. I use magldr 1.3 and the 1.12.50 radio. I am now back on the original DFT Rom.
I've run WP7 for only a day and managed to connect it to my Nokia CK7. I took much longer than normal to pair but it worked in the end. Whilst this doesn't really help at least you know it is possible to achieve.
The primary reason taken WP7 off my phone is that I NEED my database apps (currently Handbase) plus the traffic data from google maps.
For the brief period I was using WP7 I was really impressed but for some reason I never managed to dual boot it with Android as I kept loosing the Android partition. I certain this was my fault but having spent more than two hours reformatting the SD card as per the tutorials on here I gave up and flashed back to 6.5/Android.
Good morning fellow forum member. I've recently begun having some significant bluetooth connectivity issues with my continuum and Ford Sync system in my 2011 Fiesta. Now, before you start ranting about your loath for microsoft or Ford please hear me out. In theory, the Sync system, combined with bluetooth technology, is a great way to go hands free. It also allows for the coordination of the system and Pandora & Stitcher Radio on an Android phone.
Anyway, lately my bluetooth connection to my car has been causing FCs on my phone. They are the type of FCs that cause the "long-short-short-short" haptic feedback but doesn't throw a pop-up message describing the cause of the FC. So, when the feedback occurs the phone will sometimes lock up but it always disconnects the bluetooth. I don't use bluetooth in any other fashion so I can't be positive that it's not an issue with the car's bluettoth system.
With all of that said, is there an inherent issue with the bluetooth system on our phone? If so, is there a fix for this? I'm currently running the EC07-clean_new ROM. This was installed over the SCH-I400-EC07-FROYO-REL-PRODUCTION ROM. My broadband version iss:i400.0.6v.EC06, Kernel 2.6.32.9 and build SCH-I400.EC07.
Any help that you brilliant folks could offer would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Ray
I run bluetooth constantly (it's the only way I talk on my phone, driving or not.) I've never run into this issue. Have you recently downloaded any new apps? I found that there are some apps that simply don't play well with our phones. Especially radio based apps (I.E. the issues a lot of us were having with gps based apps, or gps losing it's lock, after a while. Wireless tether 3.06 beta completely screwed my phone up... etc). The only other thing I could suggest is to drop your phone from the sync, and reconnect it... I do this with all my bluetooth devices at least twice a week as a matter of course. And if you want to experiment to see if it's sync or your phone, assuming you have bluetooth stack on your computer, you could connect it to your phone. Other than that, maybe find a friend that has bluetooth and connect it?
Thanks for the suggestions. The most recent app I have installed that uses a radio is the new Stitcher, though I have been having some issues with "My Tracks" FCing but I think that is another issue. Anyway, prior to your reply I found an app on the market called "bluetooth fix repair" It's free and I gave it a shot. I've also deleted the phone from my car's list and repaired them. So far so good. I have a bluetooth stereo headset I'll have to try. I probably have too many apps to begin with. I'll see about deleting some of the ones I don't really need.
Thanks again,
Ray
Reborn627 said:
Thanks for the suggestions. The most recent app I have installed that uses a radio is the new Stitcher, though I have been having some issues with "My Tracks" FCing but I think that is another issue. Anyway, prior to your reply I found an app on the market called "bluetooth fix repair" It's free and I gave it a shot. I've also deleted the phone from my car's list and repaired them. So far so good. I have a bluetooth stereo headset I'll have to try. I probably have too many apps to begin with. I'll see about deleting some of the ones I don't really need.
Thanks again,
Ray
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I think you should be good with rourine disconnect/reconnect. Asfor too many apps, the only thing rhat matters there is storage space. Android wint let you run "too many" at once. Itll delete from ram as needed. I was just saying that certain apps dont seem to play well with others. But that is an android issue, not your phone in particular.
I'm not here for a long time. I'm here for a good time. To hell with the red wine. Pour me some moonshine. - King George
I'm totally stumped here. Yesterday I decided to reflash my phone. I figured any issues might be ironed out. It must be an app issue, although it is going to be a PIA to uninstall then reinstall each app and test the BT after each app install. I thought that it might be the trailblazer101 car cradle, desk cradle or the sticher apps that were giving me the problem but that doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe I'll try replacing the BT files with the ones from eclair to see if I end up with the same trouble. Any idea if that might cause more problems? Are the BT files android version specific?
Peace
EDIT: I've not swapped the BT files from eclair but I did spend an hour or so listening to Stitcher radio via a bluetooth headset. It doesn't seem to be a BT issue. More likely an issue with the connection to the Sync system itself. Connecting via bluetooth is no problem in the car. It's not until I attempt to engage a function other than the phone that an issue occurs. I may try to reflash the EC07-clean ROM and see if there was something with the EC07-Clean_new version that I've been running for the last few weeks.
OK, the BT issue seems to be corrected. I flashed adrenalyn's EC07-clean ROM and that seemed to do it. Something must have gotten corrupted. So, issue resolved...i guess.
I know that at the moment this isn't possible, but does anyone know if there is work being done on the Android bluetooth stack to enable a tablet to be used as a bluetooth hands-free device? A bit of searching shows that it is a regularly requested feature but I can't seem to find any info on any developers who are definitively working on this (except for one little questionable nugget that stated that the CM developers were playing with Bluetooth. Hardly enough to go on.).
I want to incorporate a Nexus 7 into my 370Z as a carpc but the lack of being able to integrate phone features is holding me back. Using data apps like grooveip are a no go for me as data connections around here aren't reliable enough for consistent daily use. Thanks in advance for any info.
I'm not to sure of what your asking, but if you wanna make calls from your tablet using BT this app allows you to do that as well as send SMS and MMS from it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apdroid.tabtalk hope that helps and is what you mean
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I appreciate the suggestion but I don't think this will work. What I would like to do is mount my tablet in my car and use it as a front end for my phone to make/take calls the way an OEM bluetooth car system would normally work. My understanding is that your tablet must be paired as a hands free device, which android tablets currently don't do. I looked at Tablet Talk but when using that app from what I can gather when you accept a call on the tablet it actually activates the call on your handset. Ultimately I want to use the tablet as a hands free solution as I drive stick and holding my phone to my ear while driving is a no-no.
In the past I've used bt headsets but I lose them constantly and frankly I'm tired of replacing them. Oh well.
Well, good luck in your search! And you hit tablet talk spot on BTW lol. Oh and if you do find a solution, plz post it! This sounds like something I would love to use.
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SpungeWorthy said:
Well, good luck in your search! And you hit tablet talk spot on BTW lol. Oh and if you do find a solution, plz post it! This sounds like something I would love to use.
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Thanks. I'll thinking I'll probably go the route of a more traditional carpc for now, but if and when this becomes a feature you can take advantage of with android tablets I'll have to reevaluate the situation.
Nillaz said:
I know that at the moment this isn't possible, but does anyone know if there is work being done on the Android bluetooth stack to enable a tablet to be used as a bluetooth hands-free device?
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This would be a great extension or compliment to the various apps that let you send/receive SMSs from your tablet via your phone. If I could at least receive/answer calls too, I could leave the phone elsewhere at home.
Just to let you know I've contacted parrot and garmin with regards to something like this.
I want a solution where I can make my nexus 7 a full media center with DAB radio and a good sat nav without needing a cellular link and hands free for my phone which includes the voice commands available through the tablet.
So hopefully they will get back to me and I'll post up here what they say.
Something I haven't solved yet either is getting all the antennae feeds into the nexus, I was thinking of getting a sharks fin antennae and wiring them into a raspberry pi to then blue toothing them into the nexus, I could also then attach a HDD to the pi to use it as a server to.
I want to do it this way so I can take the 7 otu and with me if I wish, rather than having it hard wired in. also if would allow for device upgrade.
Theres a nice thread on install and with references to the tasker app to get the tablet to work with the ignition and other functionality like that;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1819175
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BT app
There is an app under development for this I think. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funkyandroid.phonelink
I'm thinking of dropping a Nexus 7 in my car but the lack of hands free bluetooth is kind of a deal breaker.
Did anybody ever get this working? I have my Nexus installed in the car, and would love to be able to use it as a speakerphone. I don't need to actually be able to make the calls via the tablet, just need to be able to use it as a basic bluetooth speakerphone / headset type of thing.
It sounds like it should be something fairly simple, but I cannot seem to find much.
I have been wanting this for a long time, I'd love to be able to take my older Android phone and re-purpose it as a car GPS/Internet Radio/Handfree, etc.
I know the Samsung Galaxy player has this functionality, I wonder if any of their devs could help out.
if this work in linux so i think can work on android
Hi to all,
i been looking for this "bluetooth role" for long time. I have read a lot of forum and the entire XDA posts about this..
it seems that this is the definitive question like "what is the answer to life the universe and everything" simple 42
and it seems that is the paradise for all want to make a carputer/droid/tablet/**** car radio replacement... so... i'm one of you
this post is for some devs (i'm a dev too) i'm asking for help ....
the problem is: which android version do you want to use?
why this question? simple: from the android 4.2 google has decided to trash the bluetooth bluez stack and reimplement the wheel with bluedroid...
i read the documentation about bluedroid at this site:
https://source.android.com/devices/bluetooth.html
and there was written that there are some profiles actualy implemented but not the Bluetooth Hands-Free Profile server.
Ok it's not a problem, taking a look to the template of other profile i can implement it.
now the question is HOW DOES IT WORKS?
so i searched and bum this is how:
version 1.5
version 1.6
ok and now? and now i tried to find some similar implementations and...
after another night of search i found this....
HFP For Linux
where there is the downloadable source code.
now I think we have all the necessary to make this possible...
BUT there are some problem that i haven't resolved yet for a lack of knowledge of course.
it seems that the hfp override any other profiles on that example, it's not bad, in a system that i want to use i need only a HFP profile and AD2P togheter all the rest is useless
i think that this at the end is a fork of the standard android project and how I/we can put it into a rom or a patch and who want to add to a rom/kernel? how it can be done? is a patch better ? a new kernel like franco's or better to submit to google?
I hope to have intrigued someone with this post and I hope that somebody can link me to some documentation to understand how to put all the information I have together.
ps. i have tried to reply into this thread:
[Q] Android phone as bluetooth headset?
but of course i have to few posts to make my suggestion there
I may be out of line here but try reading about the gmate+ device.
I got one paired with my Nexus 7 32gb right now and currently using it as a phone. I believe there are other similar gadgets out there, as I've done some researches before I actually got mine to work. I have yet to try it with a bluetooth headset paired because I lost mine just on the day when I was about to try it out.
Anyway, one problem here is, the app for the device is currently not updated so there are a lot of things that need tweaking and one major issue for me is the ringtone. As I have posted here before, sine N7 does not have native ringtone, there's no alert tone for incoming calls. As for text messages, the notification alert tone works. I know there's also GPRS for it but haven't tried it out yet.
Try these options...
As far as an option for a Nexus 7 you may want to try a sip dialer like 3cx or linphone or zoiper and establish a free sip account at iptel.org or something. As long as you have wifi or a 3g connection which some tablet have you should be able to make and receive calls, or try ""Blue Fi" from the play store. it may work.
naiku said:
Did anybody ever get this working? I have my Nexus installed in the car, and would love to be able to use it as a speakerphone. I don't need to actually be able to make the calls via the tablet, just need to be able to use it as a basic bluetooth speakerphone / headset type of thing.
It sounds like it should be something fairly simple, but I cannot seem to find much.
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golfnz34me said:
I have been wanting this for a long time, I'd love to be able to take my older Android phone and re-purpose it as a car GPS/Internet Radio/Handfree, etc.
I know the Samsung Galaxy player has this functionality, I wonder if any of their devs could help out.
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I just got a new Nexus 7 for the same purpose of replacing my vehicles head unit with a tablet.
I am digging into the BT stack since I believe that I should be able to implement (or port) the profile on top of Android 4.3 assuming that the SCO data is available through the raw BT connection. There is an open source HFP implementation on sourceforge for Linux that migh be close enough to do the trick and save a bunch of coding time. It's going to take a while for me to get the time to dive too deeply into this one, but if I succeed or come to the conclusion it can't be done, I will let folks know.
Hello guys.
I am going to buy Nexus 7 for my car for the same purposes, - navigating, internet.
But mainly is for the Hands Free function.
Unfortunately, people saying nexus can't use it. But it's lol...I don't believe nexus7 doesn't support hands free.
Gentelman, tell me any way to make nexus 7 works hands free.
Thank you in advance.
P.S. if you ask wham am I mean when saying "hands free", so there is an example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEFjDKtlao8
Use some Motorola MotoActiv Bt code?
I have a Motorola MotoActiv running watch... Features gps tracking for running and biking, MP3 player and Bluetooth... The Bluetooth is mainly used for wireless headphones, but if you have a Motorola Phone, the watch can display text msgs from the phone and you can use the headphones/mic through the watch to take calls. (the idea being that you can leave the phone in a pocket or backpack while you're bike riding, I guess, and still take calls.)
The device runs Android (I'm sure someone's rooted it on here). Maybe that code can be dissected and repurposed for what were all looking for??
J
more on Motorola Watch
SmartNexus said:
I have a Motorola MotoActiv running watch... Features gps tracking for running and biking, MP3 player and Bluetooth... The Bluetooth is mainly used for wireless headphones, but if you have a Motorola Phone, the watch can display text msgs from the phone and you can use the headphones/mic through the watch to take calls. (the idea being that you can leave the phone in a pocket or backpack while you're bike riding, I guess, and still take calls.)
The device runs Android (I'm sure someone's rooted it on here). Maybe that code can be dissected and repurposed for what were all looking for??
J
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Just an update on something I said in my previous post... I was looking at my MotoActiv watch today and it says you have to have an "Android phone" not a Motorola phone as I said in my previous post. So I'm wondering if the phone audio over Bt can be reverse engineered from the Motoactive watch for other android devices.
I actually decided to root my watch today just for the fun of it... it would really make the perfect "Car Head Unit" as it has Android OS, MP3 capabilities, FM Tuner, Bluetooth and Phone audio over Bluetooth built in... if only the screen was larger than 1.5".
Looks like the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 2013 are getting some love in this area with a new custom stack:
http://www.bluez.org/bluez-for-android-status-update/
Looks like you need some compiling skills, but I think this is what you are looking for.
It must be work... Or not?
Hello guys!
I'm thinking on a same project for a while. It doesn't matter if not work for me, but would be great if yes.
I found something 2 days ago:
Parrot Asteroid Smart
This is an android base head unit/navigation, and the bluetooth handsfree is working on it. How it's possible? Any chance to port it into the Nexus 7?
solution
So i had an idea today and decided to call my carrier (Cricket). They told me it is possible to purchase an extra sim card and they will program the imei# to match my phone. This will enable me to make and receive calls on my tablet as well as my phone using the same number. Also i will have full access to my data.....problem solved with only 15 dollars. I hope this helps somebody.
HI All,
My Nexus 4 was ota to 4.3 last night. This morning I have been trying to get my H7 to pair via bluetooth, given that both the Nexus 4 and H7 support Bluetooth Smart.
Has anyone managed to pair their H7's over bluetooth? If so what did you do and which app did you use.
I think that the H7 is working as it's sending a t31 signal to my polar f6 watch, so i'm assuming that the bluetooth is also switched on, however I no way to verify this, as i don't have another bluetooth smart receiver to check it with.
Thanks
Satpal
Polar H7 can get paired with android 4.3
schander said:
HI All,
My Nexus 4 was ota to 4.3 last night. This morning I have been trying to get my H7 to pair via bluetooth, given that both the Nexus 4 and H7 support Bluetooth Smart.
Has anyone managed to pair their H7's over bluetooth? If so what did you do and which app did you use.
I think that the H7 is working as it's sending a t31 signal to my polar f6 watch, so i'm assuming that the bluetooth is also switched on, however I no way to verify this, as i don't have another bluetooth smart receiver to check it with.
Thanks
Satpal
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I just have tried it also without success. But just take the battery of the H7 short out and you will be able after inserting the battery to get paired. So hardware works fine now, but apps aren´t working yet: edemondo pro, runtastic pro. Does somebody have already an app that works?
Same here. I was able to pair after removing the H7 battery and inserting again but is not showing my heart rate.
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Same here!
My N4 is able to pair with the H7, but apps don't show my heart rate..
Hi,
I also tried this and my Nexus 4 was unable to find the H& in the BT pairing menu.
I realised yesterday that my wifes S3 also support BT smart, via smasungs own bt stack. I tried to pair via the normal BT menu but failed. However I download an app called NRF (by Nordic Semi) and managed to pair the device directly from there, so atleast i know that my H7 works. I guess it just matter of time before support is introduced by the various apps.
I wonder if manufacturers like Samsung will provide wrappers for the own BT Smart api's to conform with the Android API v18 (the one with BT Smart)
Thanks
Satpal
HI
i tried yesteday to connect the Polar H6 to the Nexus4 using Runtastic app. Didn´t had success i tried to reboot the phone and also released the battery of the polar sensor.
Do you know if there´s other software which i can use to pair them? Or how bluetoot smart pairing works in general?
I am also unable to pair my Bluetooth Smart heart rate monitor to my Nexus 4.
I am using a 60beat Blue and the device is not detected in either the Bluetooth settings menu or the Runtastic PRO V4.0 App.
When I try and connect to a app 'nRF HRM Demo' (the app 60beat support directed me too to test if the device worked) I get a message pop up "Bluetooth Low Energy isn't supported by your phone " Could other users try this app and let me know if they get the same message before I reply to 60beat?
I am running Android 4.3 (stock factory image and I am not rooted) JWR66V
I am waiting for a reply from Runtastic support to see if this device is compatible with their APP.
I do know my heart rate monitor uses the Transmission frequency of 2.4 GHz maybe this is the problem.
I will reply again once I receive a response from Runtastic as I requested a list of compatible hardware.
It does seem strange that I am unable to find much information about this new feature and how to test it.
FIngers crossed we will be able to definitive rundown of what works and does not work on both the Nexus 4 and Android 4.3
After having no luck getting a response out of Runtastic I have finally found an App in the store that reads my 60beat cheststrap (released today);
I am unable to post a link to the Play store but search for BLE Heart Rate Monitor
My device still does not show up in the setting menu but at least I know that 4.3 is working with BLE and it's Runtastic's fault that my monitor does not pair with it's APP.
I will reply again once I hear back from Runtastic with there response to this issue.
Let me know if anyone finds any other apps that work with their devices.
Dichdude said:
After having no luck getting a response out of Runtastic I have finally found an App in the store that reads my 60beat cheststrap (released today);
I am unable to post a link to the Play store but search for BLE Heart Rate Monitor
My device still does not show up in the setting menu but at least I know that 4.3 is working with BLE and it's Runtastic's fault that my monitor does not pair with it's APP.
I will reply again once I hear back from Runtastic with there response to this issue.
Let me know if anyone finds any other apps that work with their devices.
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Thanks for that Info with BLE
Will try it also and report if its also working for me
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Thanks for that Info with BLE
Will try it also and report if its also working for me
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Tested it out BLE is also working for me so its really a Runtastic issue.
I will also write them.
Sirbubu said:
Tested it out BLE is also working for me so its really a Runtastic issue.
I will also write them.
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Got a response from Runtastic via Twitter;
"@Runtastic Why do you lock out the use of other BLE HRM from you Android Platform, I thought the point of BLE was for easy implementation?
@Dichdude From now we don't offer support for third-party hardware anymore. Thanks for understanding."
To sum it up Runtastic will only work with there own BLE heart rate monitor. I did reply asking them why and that it looks like a money grab but they have not responded to that question (suprise), so it looks like we will have to wait for other Dev's to implement Smart BT.
We just have to wait for developers to update their apps to be able to make use of BLE. The internal libraries don't yet support that protocol even though the phone does. I'm sure it won't be that long until apps updates start rolling out for the more popular apps. Unfortunetly there is only the one app (BLE HRM that a few have mentioned) that works. Considering 4.3 was released/announced less then 2 weeks ago, we should give the developers some time to get that update out before we start to fully complain.
Sirbubu said:
Tested it out BLE is also working for me so its really a Runtastic issue.
I will also write them.
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I got an H7 today and downloaded BLE Heart Monitor. As soon as I started scanning I got it in the list of devices. I was able to connect and it seemed pretty accurate. However, I'm not able to connect again and it's not even detected as a device. I tried taking out the battery, re-booting the phone but nothing seems to work. Anything else I can try to get this to connect again with my Nexus 4?
Runtastic says they will only support their Runtastic-branded Bluetooth Smart HRM chest strap. I'm still waiting on Endomondo & RunKeeper to respond to my inquiries. The best thing to do is keep hounding them.
Confirmed working Polar h7 - at least in a basic app that was just updated today.
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jawz101 said:
Confirmed working Polar h7 - at least in a basic app that was just updated today.
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Just wondering, can you pair the h7 every time? I can do it once, get to the heart rate screen, see my heart rate but if I close the app it will no longer pair with the H7. It will show it in the list of devices but will hang on the "Connecting" screen. After this I have to clear the data for the app and take out the battery of the H7 to get them to pair again.
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I'll check when I get back home.
I tested for a little while tonight. Doesn't seem to handle a reboot nor temporary disconnection. I'd hope it would reconnect if I toggle the Bluetooth radio for a moment. In the event of temporary loss of signal I had to stop the app in android settings and once I restarted the app it would recognize the monitor once more.
My concern with all of that is my phone could reboot for whatever reason mid-run and I'd have to mess with whatever running app again. I'm usually listening to Stitcher radio and using whatever running app in places where phone signal isn't always great. That combination seems to cause my phone to restart on rare occasion which already annoys me so I'd expect reliability.
So I confirmed that turning Bluetooth off and on will resolve the connection issue, it's able to re-connect everytime. I did a ride today running both BLE Heart Monitor and RunKeeper and I had a stable connection throughout. At the end I just entered the average heart rate in RunKeeper. I really wish RunKeeper would release an update already or at least provide an ETA!
You're saying runkeeper saw it? Nm. I just read it