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I installed Spare Parts and saw that my phone was never sleeping, even though it was on standby all the time.
This was caused by the location by antenna feature.
Ever since i unchecked that feature i've had around 50-60 hours of uptime, with a few calls and a lot of texts.
hope this helps alot others
With the new firmware the problem of battery dissapears completely
There is a known issue with network location detection in android 1.6. I had the same issue with my galaxy and it was solved. Now that we have root, we can hopefully do the same.
Also, br aware that I have found spare parts to actually stop the phone from sleeping, as well as tapatalk. I suggest rebooting after using either program.
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adrianoftyriel said:
There is a known issue with network location detection in android 1.6. I had the same issue with my galaxy and it was solved. Now that we have root, we can hopefully do the same.
Also, br aware that I have found spare parts to actually stop the phone from sleeping, as well as tapatalk. I suggest rebooting after using either program.
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Actually that issue is fixed in the latest update so it's already fixed without needing root.
Which firmware? I know I'm still experiencing it.
RBA020 solved the battery issues for me.
Where in spare parts does it show you if your phone has been sleeping?
you don't need spare parts. Just dial *#*#4636#*#* and click battery history and then the running bar.
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Inebriatef said:
This was caused by the location by antenna feature.
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I hope this means that under Location, you had Wireless Networks and Assisted GPS enabled.
One question tho... how did you isolate this feature as the one that was keeping the system awake?
I just found that my phone has been running most of the time, I see Running at 100% under Battery History. Then I select Partial Wake usage and see Android System has the largest share. But what part of Android System? how does one get to know?
I know from having a Samsung galaxy and being part of the androidforums community that was going nuts until Simone found a bug report with Google saying that network location was stopping devices from sleeping. We had root so a Dev applied a patch to services.odex and voila! Phones were napping again.
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adrianoftyriel said:
I know from having a Samsung galaxy and being part of the androidforums community that was going nuts until Simone found a bug report with Google saying that network location was stopping devices from sleeping. We had root so a Dev applied a patch to services.odex and voila! Phones were napping again.
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Hmm... time to give this a try... so is it just Wireless Network or also AGPS that causes this problem?
I hope I can still leave GPS turned on?
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Didn't know that there was an XDA App till I saw your sig. Looks like its worth a try since its free!!
Update after turning location off completely
Well first run with all location methods disabled (I can still enable GPS quickly via a widget when I need to use it)... the battery performance is up phenomenally!!
I charged fully before going to bed last night, then kept the phone unplugged... woke up and found the battery was at 97%. This has never happened to me.
Ok, one thing tho, I use Juice Defender with night time schedule, so my wifi and 3G were off during most of the night. Anyways, its been around 3 hours since I woke up, and I've been using the phone on and off to do some browsing.
The battery is now at 93%.
I do not use any other aid other than Juice Defender... no task killers, no startup editors. Will update on how the rest of the day progresses.
EDIT: my thanks to Inebriatef and adrianoftyriel for pointing this out.
j4mm3r said:
I hope this means that under Location, you had Wireless Networks and Assisted GPS enabled.
One question tho... how did you isolate this feature as the one that was keeping the system awake?
I just found that my phone has been running most of the time, I see Running at 100% under Battery History. Then I select Partial Wake usage and see Android System has the largest share. But what part of Android System? how does one get to know?
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I too would like to hear a bit more. Could the OP please elaborate?
I'm running the latest FW and although my battery life increased exponentially, I find that it's not going to sleep anymore! I had close to 50 hours battery life and now I repeat everything to get just under 20 hours.
I don't use task killers and crap anymore, just before I put my phone away. If I don't, I have a trillion programs running with like 40mb of RAM free. Although I understand this is Linux based, these programs are RUNNING and not idle. All my **** is draining the battery again after a clean reinstall of everything. What a bummer.
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I too would like to hear a bit more. Could the OP please elaborate?
I'm running the latest FW and although my battery life increased exponentially, I find that it's not going to sleep anymore! I had close to 50 hours battery life and now I repeat everything to get just under 20 hours.
I don't use task killers and crap anymore, just before I put my phone away. If I don't, I have a trillion programs running with like 40mb of RAM free. Although I understand this is Linux based, these programs are RUNNING and not idle. All my **** is draining the battery again after a clean reinstall of everything. What a bummer.
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@bongd, by latest FW, do you mean the R2BA020? If yes, then you shouldn't be affected by the problem being reported here. I'm still on R1FB001, which apparently has this Android 1.6 bug related to location.
As in my case, simply by disabling location settings (even though this reports that network location is the culprit, I disabled them all), the phone is now able to suspend itself and basically consume very little battery in standby.
Personally, I dont see any issue with lot of applications running and having little RAM left because I trust the Android system to manage it efficiently. Furthermore, the RAM on these phones is not as fast as what you would see typically on desktop systems, so it actually helps having things around in memory rather than aggressively cleaning it out. Checkout this link to understand a bit more about Android task management features: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
I suggest you use Spare Parts to isolate your battery drain, there might be some app that is misbehaving and hogging systems resources. Also turning off very frequent updates/refresh intervals in some applications is the way forward.
I found through trial and error that fancy widgets keeps my phone from sleeping.sad cause I really want to use it.
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@bongd, by latest FW, do you mean the R2BA020? If yes, then you shouldn't be affected by the problem being reported here. I'm still on R1FB001, which apparently has this Android 1.6 bug related to location.
As in my case, simply by disabling location settings (even though this reports that network location is the culprit, I disabled them all), the phone is now able to suspend itself and basically consume very little battery in standby.
Personally, I dont see any issue with lot of applications running and having little RAM left because I trust the Android system to manage it efficiently. Furthermore, the RAM on these phones is not as fast as what you would see typically on desktop systems, so it actually helps having things around in memory rather than aggressively cleaning it out. Checkout this link to understand a bit more about Android task management features: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
I suggest you use Spare Parts to isolate your battery drain, there might be some app that is misbehaving and hogging systems resources. Also turning off very frequent updates/refresh intervals in some applications is the way forward.
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Thanks, j4mm3r. I am using R2BA020. It looks like I have some diagnostic troubleshooting to do when I get home.
Sitting here at work charging my phone, it isn't loading craploads of programs anymore. And it seems to be sleeping okay. I'll play around when I have some free time.
Fixed my problem big time
Hey guys,
I just wanted to throw my two cents into the pot.
OK – so after experimenting with Task Killers, Task Managers, Spare Parts, Juice Defender, etc. I came to the conclusion that they (for the most part) did more bad than good. It was getting to the point that I was just starting to accept that “The X10 just has ****ty battery life” end of story.
I also read in a Google released post on the web, that there are a number of reasons that Task Killers, etc. are actually not required to end tasks. Android actually has a fairly intelligent and systematic approach to killing tasks that are not being used. I haven’t used any sort of proprietary battery saver, task ender, startup cleaner, etc. and I’ve been having the best phone performance since I got the headset.
The time now (Eastern Standard) is 3:30pm on Monday. The last time I charged my phone was Saturday evening at 6pm, and currently I am showing 24% battery remaining. Let those numbers do the talking!
My settings are:
Wi-Fi always off unless I am going to be actively using it (browsing)
Using Phone info, I change WCDMA Preferred to GSM Only (enables 2g instead of 3g without disabling data altogether)
GPS always off
Screen settings, brightness, etc. I believe have a much smaller effect than people tend to believe. The SINGLE BIGGEST factors for me, and noticing this huge increase in battery life are:
Settings -> About Phone -> Software Update -> UNCHECK Automatic Search (this constantly searches the market, etc. for app updates and what not)
Cycle power immediately after charging. Once my phone completes its charge, I turn off and then on again.
I hope that some people can enjoy moderately extended battery life as I have. I am SO ecstatic to be at HOUR 43 and still at 20%+
Worth mentioning also that I am on Rogers (Canada) and have not received any updates, so this extended battery life is not a result of a firmware update.
How I Fixed My Batter Life Problem
My Incredible would run dead in about 4 hrs doing nothing. I finally dug into several "task killer" programs and found that about 20 - 30 apps were invisibily running in the background constantly. As soon as I permanently killed them, my battery life went to normal. I can now get about 2 days of normal use on 1 charge. Even a day of pretty heavy use will last almost all day.
So for me, it was all the new apps I installed when I first got the phone that were running in the background. The free "task killer" program was not showing them. I finally found the app called "System Panel." It was the ONLY app that would show me all the "invisible" apps that were still running invisibly in the background and let me kill them. Once I killed them with System Panel, they stayed dead and the free "task killer" program could auto-kill them from them on.
Not sure why the free programs could not see the rogue apps, but my battery life is GREAT now.
Inebriatef said:
I installed Spare Parts and saw that my phone was never sleeping, even though it was on standby all the time.
This was caused by the location by antenna feature.
Ever since i unchecked that feature i've had around 50-60 hours of uptime, with a few calls and a lot of texts.
hope this helps alot others
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What do you mean caused by the location of the antenna feature?
Where is this option to uncheck this feature.
Thanks dear.
Vatis
I'm running R2BA023 and I am struggling to get a full day from the phone at the moment. It normally lasts around 12 hours and then its flat.
However, I ran the Telenor R2BA020 update and I manage to get a full day with ease.
I have just done a clean install of R2BA023 Generic UK "root" edtion and going to see how I get on. What I did notice before is that the phone was not returning to a idle state.
Just wondering after downloading OS Monitor and SeePU, it shows my phone running at 100% cpu all the time, the process taking it up is something called /init, can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
Rittzy said:
Just wondering after downloading OS Monitor and SeePU, it shows my phone running at 100% cpu all the time, the process taking it up is something called /init, can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
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Also very curious! There seem to be a few people with this issue and not just on the HD. Could some Android wizard please take a look? There is not much to be found via google.
Funny, people said that hard resets and all dont do anything but i just restarted my phone normally and it just sits at 0%, i did unistall SeePU but dont think it had much affect on it, duno what was wrong with it
imo first thing if there is an issue like this is to get the RUU and reflash it.
if you are still experiencing this issue you might wanna have a look at this thread.i was on the same boat.very annoying.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822319
Rittzy said:
Just wondering after downloading OS Monitor and SeePU, it shows my phone running at 100% cpu all the time, the process taking it up is something called /init, can someone enlighten me?
Thanks
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Just set HTC Sense Sync from automaticaly (like 1/2/3/5 hrs) to Manually or push update ....
I wonder if you enabled USB Debug
on in Settings > Applications > Development
This will help the 100% CPU, which is a bug in HTC Rom
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You need only a complete CALENDAR cache cleanered
****head said:
I wonder if you enabled USB Debug
on in Settings > Applications > Development
This will help the 100% CPU, which is a bug in HTC Rom
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Yes, please do this!
And if it solves the problem, please let it know so this thread can be closed.
GPS seems to send the cpu to 100% DHD
Had to enable to GSP to use the Car Panel app after that the CPU went to 100%.
Just disabling didn't work. I had to restart to get the CPU back down.
Best option: go to sync accounts and remove you htc sync account. I've heard thid helped many people
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I was having this exact problem, I had automatic sync off, turned it on and changed everything to every 3hrs or so and what do you know, CPU usage dropped to 5-15% at home screen from 100% constantly.
Maybe that's why my battery died so fast today
As someone said a few posts before: activate USB debugging. Your phone will vibrate, will be unresponsible, after 10 seconds it will vibrate again and then your CPU usaage will go down like the titanic
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I was also facing 100% cpu usage.
First i disabled htc sync and others leaving only the necessary accounts. And my CPU usage was unde control to 3-5 %
Now after two days cpu usage was 99%. I enabled USb Debugging, and exactly as previous post said phone vibrate two times and cpu usage is stable to 3 %.
Hi Guys,
I have been using gingerbread build's for some time. I notice battery drain sometimes battery drain suddenly spikes to 58mAh for sometime (without Wifi or BT)..for around 10-15mins and then comes back to normal after 10-20mins(<10mAh). I experienced this issue first in MDJ Cm7 2.6 build..I thought that time must be build specific..so I switched to Desire HD build which was free of this issue...however I don't like sense anymore, so moved back to typhoon's CM7 build.But again I encountered the same issue. I changed the kernel to gauner's kernel, since the desire HD build I was using was using this kernel and free of the issue, but again it surfaced back.
Now I switched to pongster's hyperdroid build. This build has a very low power drain...most of the time its < 4mah on this build...Also I haven't installed any widgets (except for current widget) and have still the stock ADW launcher (to rule out the possibility of this bug caused by any s/w)...but again the drain jumped to 58mAh .Is it just me or other gingerbread users face this drain also randomly. could it be due to SD card, I am using ext4 data partition.
Mafioso said:
Hi Guys,
I have been using gingerbread build's for some time. I notice battery drain sometimes battery drain suddenly spikes to 58mAh for sometime (without Wifi or BT)..for around 10-15mins and then comes back to normal after 10-20mins(<10mAh). I experienced this issue first in MDJ Cm7 2.6 build..I thought that time must be build specific..so I switched to Desire HD build which was free of this issue...however I don't like sense anymore, so moved back to typhoon's CM7 build.But again I encountered the same issue. I changed the kernel to gauner's kernel, since the desire HD build I was using was using this kernel and free of the issue, but again it surfaced back.
Now I switched to pongster's hyperdroid build. This build has a very low power drain...most of the time its < 4mah on this build...Also I haven't installed any widgets (except for current widget) and have still the stock ADW launcher (to rule out the possibility of this bug caused by any s/w)...but again the drain jumped to 58mAh .Is it just me or other gingerbread users face this drain also randomly. could it be due to SD card, I am using ext4 data partition.
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Try turning sync off and seeing if that is what causes the spikes
XsceneXhippieX said:
Try turning sync off and seeing if that is what causes the spikes
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yes, I thought of that...and have removed facebook sync but I do need my gmail sync..I don't have any other sync's enabled except contacts and gmail...lol, is it too much to ask ? and i don't have any issues in sense builds where I have gmail, weather and facebook sync on
Mafioso said:
yes, I thought of that...and have removed facebook sync but I do need my gmail sync..I don't have any other sync's enabled except contacts and gmail...lol, is it too much to ask ? and i don't have any issues in sense builds where I have gmail, weather and facebook sync on
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hmmm, I don't know, maybe its an install issue, I have everything always syncing, but I also have only 2g connection (at&t's terrible network) and I haven't had this issue using both pongsters and mdj's builds
XsceneXhippieX said:
hmmm, I don't know, maybe its an install issue, I have everything always syncing, but I also have only 2g connection (at&t's terrible network) and I haven't had this issue using both pongsters and mdj's builds
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Hmmm ok...I don't think its an install issue..i always do a task 29 before switching builds from different devs..and follow the CWM settings as recommended by the dev....rest the builds are running so smoothly especially pongsters without any FC's or such...
BTW why are using AT&T...t-mob is cheaper and faster(3g)
It happens to me too sometimes. What I do is disable wifi and gps wait two minutes and battery drain on standby becames 5mA again. When I enable both again, it stays on 5mA. Don't know what's causing it, but I have it too.
I have this Problem if I use Livewallpapers.
Now i use normal Wallpapers and it is gone.
edit: 5-8 mA with normal Wallpaper
Well for me, it turned out to be the sync indeed as XsceneXhippieX mentioned.
I turned off all sync just for the heck of it and the problem hasn't come back for last 2 days...I enabled Background Sync (not auto sync) and problem resurfaced within few hours...so i'm pretty sure..Its the sync which is causing this Guess I need to go back to Sense ROM now...
And BTW i'm not using live wallpapers..
Also one more interesting fact...phone conusmes more battery on 2G networks than on 3G. I forced to phone to use 2G network and idle power drain was >5mAh all the time...while on 3g its 2-5mAh mostly...
58 mah on Ginger is usually the GPS. Turn it on then off again, somehow if you use it or any app use it, even if the app closes the GPS chip doesnt turn off.
Just turn it off using the widget or in settings.
If that doesnt fix it, make sure Bluetooth is off. it consumes 58-59 mah, even if it is not connected, its a known issue on Ginger. Bluetooth never goes to sleep, gotta turn it off manually.
Hope it helps!.
Zephyrot said:
58 mah on Ginger is usually the GPS. Turn it on then off again, somehow if you use it or any app use it, even if the app closes the GPS chip doesnt turn off.
Just turn it off using the widget or in settings.
If that doesnt fix it, make sure Bluetooth is off. it consumes 58-59 mah, even if it is not connected, its a known issue on Ginger. Bluetooth never goes to sleep, gotta turn it off manually.
Hope it helps!.
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Thanks for the help, but I'm sure its due to sync...I turned off the sync and for last 3 days there hasn't been a single occurrence of 60mAh drain.
gonna try turning off sync cause ive been having this issue.
just tried second gingerbread rom and it began immediately,
and this is with data, wifi, bt, gps all off.
hopefully sync does it
turning background data off didnt help.. still getting 70 to 80 drain.
and playing music in standby had me up to 110 which is higher than usual too
lbhocky19 said:
turning background data off didnt help.. still getting 70 to 80 drain.
and playing music in standby had me up to 110 which is higher than usual too
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Is it a spike or continous drain? Also which ROM/kernel are you using?
its a spike, other weird thing is since i got on gingerbread, currentwidget has sucked at getting a continuous read. it has big gaps in the log.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
thats the one im on now and i was on clean gingerbread before that
lbhocky19 said:
its a spike, other weird thing is since i got on gingerbread, currentwidget has sucked at getting a continuous read. it has big gaps in the log.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905060
thats the one im on now and i was on clean gingerbread before that
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Yes currentwidget don't give a continuous read for me too...but its the same behavior in froyo based sense build also...
Anyway, are you using any widgets installed which sync? Disable them and see, though i'll advice to disable all widgets (not only ones which sync) and see
score mobile and stock weather i have. but if i turned off background data and autosync they shouldnt be able to do anything i thought?
il give it a try
and currentwidget always did minute by minute for me in froyo. on sense at least i cant remember the last time i used a stock build
lbhocky19 said:
score mobile and stock weather i have. but if i turned off background data and autosync they shouldnt be able to do anything i thought?
il give it a try
and currentwidget always did minute by minute for me in froyo. on sense at least i cant remember the last time i used a stock build
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Well I had fancy widget installed in which I had set weather to be updated always (irrespective of background data option) once a day and only on Wi-Fi..yet it still caused 58mAh drain....try disabling them for a while and see...
just deleted score mobile and deactivated weather.
after a few minutes turned it on. 85ma...
You can change the kernel to see if it helps...try Gauner's or RAFPIGNA
or better switch to froyo build...i'm switching myself..there's not much use to smartphone if you turn off syncs anyway
yeah i guess back to froyo. whats the best stock one? def dont want sense anymore.
and has anyone made an app or something to do the awesome shutoff animation from 2.3?
My Android OS is showing a stay always time of over 17 hours (out of a 20 hour run time where my battery is completely depleted). Is there anyway I can find out what cause it?
I am already on 4.2.2
elty123 said:
My Android OS is showing a stay always time of over 17 hours (out of a 20 hour run time where my battery is completely depleted). Is there anyway I can find out what cause it?
I am already on 4.2.2
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Android os = apps . Facebook maybe ?
You're experiencing wakelocks. Might wanna do some research on the forum so that you can post logs for people to analyze what's really eating your battery.
Sfkn2 said:
You're experiencing wakelocks. Might wanna do some research on the forum so that you can post logs for people to analyze what's really eating your battery.
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THIS. I was having problems with wakelocks and traced them back to these few things below which got my battery life to greatly increase once disabled.
1) using dashclock extensions like FB and gmail
2) leaving google sync on in settings for the various google services
3) corporate email exchange servers
4) setting a long time variable for the phone to lock after the screen turns off (i did this to prevent putting in a pin to unlock but it kept the phone awake after the screen turned off)
5) live wall papers
There is also a known issue in the stock kernel that causes the phone to stay awake when it is supposed to go into sleep mode during extended periods of inactivity. This can be solved by using a custom kernel just as Franco r90 which has implemented patches in order to allow the phone to go into sleep to preserve battery. It is expected to be fixed in the next official OTA from google although this was also expected to be in 4.2.2 and was not fixed fully.
Same issue here. 4.2.2 stock kernel+rom, rooted
BBS shows "suspend_backoff" is at 45% no idea what's causing that.
Disabled pretty much all of the sync services but no improvement.
Interestingly right after the 4.2.2 update, the battery life was good.
Download this app and it will keep your applications from running in the background.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Here's the forum for the application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
scream4cheese said:
Download this app and it will keep your applications from running in the background.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5vYXNpc2ZlbmcuZ3JlZW5pZnkiXQ..
Here's the forum for the application.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155737
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So far so good! totally eliminated the suspend_backoff wakeup
akiv said:
So far so good! totally eliminated the suspend_backoff wakeup
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Update: Worked for a day now suspend_backoff is back. Happened after a recharge.
Could it be that afther the phone is charged something gets changed.
Edit: Runnig franco r90 kernel
I'm having the same problem with the Android OS draining lots of battery. When I reboot it sometimes helps but not consistently unfortunately.
Jester23 said:
I'm having the same problem with the Android OS draining lots of battery. When I reboot it sometimes helps but not consistently unfortunately.
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I have narrowed my problem down to places where I use wifi transmitted by a lot of routers (Office wifi)
akiv said:
I have narrowed my problem down to places where I use wifi transmitted by a lot of routers (Office wifi)
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I turn off my wifi when not home so I don't think that's the issue here.. I've tried removing a few apps like dash clock and my live wallpaper to see if it helps my issue. Will report back.
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Google play services has something to do with the high usage. Yesterday I was near 20% usage today I disabled it and android os is at 7%. It only affects YouTube app for me, but the browser version is fine. I haven't seen any adverse affects other than maybe losing updates to the play store and ota updates which I don't care about because that's what xda and Roms are for. Now it may be placebo, but it also seems like the ui is smoother. Battery has improved greatly with sot of 3 hours with 57% left.
Hi,
how do you disable Google play services?
Try using the app greenify if your rooted.. It's been helping my battery life. Use it on maps and that will help. If maps is set as a system app, move it or just install banks minimal gapps so you can download from play store.
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Good day to you all,
Recently after a small android update (still having version 4.4.2) I noticed the battery was draining faster than I'm used to. Before that, it was consuming roughly 1% per hour in idle. This has changed now to 3-5% per hour. Looking at the battery info I noticed the Android system was the biggest batterysucker here. Not only that, there are even TWO Android systems shown and I began to think there's something wrong here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908920&stc=1&d=1408796626
Also looking at the wakelocks shows that my phone is barely able to get into sleepmode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908921&stc=1&d=1408796626
Before posting this thread I have literally tried every option to see if it could lessen the battery consumption:
- Disabled Google location reporting services
- Disabled GPS
- Disabled Google sync
- Disable Wifi when in Sleep mode
- I don't use Google Now so it's disabled
- Widen the Facebook refresh intervals to 4 hours
- Wiped the cache partition
None of the above worked and I started to think that the second Android system here might be the cause.
Should there be a second Android system consuming battery? What could be the problem here??
JohnnyGui said:
Good day to you all,
Recently after a small android update (still having version 4.4.2) I noticed the battery was draining faster than I'm used to. Before that, it was consuming roughly 1% per hour in idle. This has changed now to 3-5% per hour. Looking at the battery info I noticed the Android system was the biggest batterysucker here. Not only that, there are even TWO Android systems shown and I began to think there's something wrong here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908920&stc=1&d=1408796626
Also looking at the wakelocks shows that my phone is barely able to get into sleepmode.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2908921&stc=1&d=1408796626
Before posting this thread I have literally tried every option to see if it could lessen the battery consumption:
- Disabled Google location reporting services
- Disabled GPS
- Disabled Google sync
- Disable Wifi when in Sleep mode
- I don't use Google Now so it's disabled
- Widen the Facebook refresh intervals to 4 hours
- Wiped the cache partition
None of the above worked and I started to think that the second Android system here might be the cause.
Should there be a second Android system consuming battery? What could be the problem here??
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Hi ,
is hard to tell with what you show here...get an app like Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Let it run for 3-4 hours and check it , the app will tell tell you what is going on....is the only way to find the real culprit
MAX 404 said:
Hi ,
is hard to tell with what you show here...get an app like Better Battery Stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Let it run for 3-4 hours and check it , the app will tell tell you what is going on....is the only way to find the real culprit
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Will this app also show the needed info even when my phone isn't rooted? Because I'm really not into rooting it.
JohnnyGui said:
Will this app also show the needed info even when my phone isn't rooted? Because I'm really not into rooting it.
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Hi mate
This is from the thread :
Q:Why installing BBS as a system app as everything works with root?
A: Starting with Kikat BBS has 3 modes: without root a limited mode provides a minimal set of stats. With root the set of stats is complete but some stats (other, partial wakelocks, processes) still use a workaround. Finally with the system app BBS is fully featured without any workaround.
For this cases root is good to have as it gives you a better access to all the process running , try without root and see what kind of info you get
If it's a conciliation, my android (currently on AOSP) is also running two android systems. Not exactly the same name (Android-System and Android-Besturingssysteem), but you get the idea. You mentioned quite a few things you've already tried, but what about existing widgets and or android apps you've installed? Usually (for me anyway) battery drain is an installed app not exactly behaving nicely.
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Hi mate
This is from the thread :
Q:Why installing BBS as a system app as everything works with root?
A: Starting with Kikat BBS has 3 modes: without root a limited mode provides a minimal set of stats. With root the set of stats is complete but some stats (other, partial wakelocks, processes) still use a workaround. Finally with the system app BBS is fully featured without any workaround.
For this cases root is good to have as it gives you a better access to all the process running , try without root and see what kind of info you get
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So does this mean I'm not able to see the exact cause of my wakelocks since my phone isn't rooted?? I have installed Gsam Battery monitor from Google Play, hopefully it will give me (and you guys) the relevant information after keeping my phone on idle for a while.
@Skyrider: The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
JohnnyGui said:
So does this mean I'm not able to see the exact cause of my wakelocks since my phone isn't rooted?? I have installed Gsam Battery monitor from Google Play, hopefully it will give me (and you guys) the relevant information after keeping my phone on idle for a while.
@Skyrider: The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
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Let us know what you find ....good luck
JohnnyGui said:
The weird thing is that in my case, it DOES display the same name twice. Doesn't that seem weird? I can't see any Android OS (besturingssysteem) displayed.
Also, if I have a battery heavy app, shouldn't it be displayed in the battery info screen as well? I only have the Weather widget and a News widget (NU.nl) on my homescreens. Haven't installed many apps except for Facebook and a few games that barely use background processes.
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In my opinion, that's the problem with the default battery information. In my years of experience, it usually never knows the information that you need what exactly is braining the battery. If your battery is still being drained, I suggest to remove most of your apps. Only for a day orso. It should be enough to gather the information to know that at least one of your apps was the cause of it.
It's a pain to do it. But It always has helped me rather than relying on apps of which usually doesn't work out for me.
Also. Might be a good idea to alter your system language from Dutch to English and check the battery info again to search for the duplicate running system on google. You'd expect "Android System" being enough, but who knows that a different language might show a different name.
Ok, I don't have the slightest idea what happened but my battery duration is amazing now. After installing Gsam Battery Monitor and charging my phone to 100% I went to sleep and after 10 hours of standby I looked at my phone and it was on 93%. My phone doesn't consume more than 0,6-1,0% per hour now in the last 3 days!!
I haven't changed anything except choosing to use Wifi and mobile network for location services but not GPS. Weird thing is that I tried that option before without success.
I'm happy now
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I'm guessing you have your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
JohnnyGui said:
Ok, I don't have the slightest idea what happened but my battery duration is amazing now. After installing Gsam Battery Monitor and charging my phone to 100% I went to sleep and after 10 hours of standby I looked at my phone and it was on 93%. My phone doesn't consume more than 0,6-1,0% per hour in the last 3 days!!
I haven't changed anything except choosing to use Wifi and mobile network for location services but not GPS. Weird thing is that I did try that option before without success.
I'm happy now
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I guess you're having your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
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Kudos for the battery mate.
JohnnyGui said:
I'm still confused about the 2 Android systems in my battery info screen though. That might be a good idea to try @Skyrider but I do remember that "Android OS" was displayed differently in Dutch a while back. I'm guessing you have your phone language in Dutch as well since you're seeing "Android Besturingssysteem" on the battery info screen?
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Yea, I'm using the Dutch language. But I'm not using the stock ROM of the phone, so hence I am seeing different systems running in the background. But I'm glad the battery is semi-fixed.
Ok, so I changed my phone to English and behold, one of the "Android Systems" indeed changed to "Android OS"
I could have sworn it was like that when my phone was in Dutch.
Perhaps someone with the stock ROM in Dutch could check that out?
No idea if this helps but i thought might as well contribute what it sais on my phone
Edit : i have a very high idle battery drain so any advice is welcome btw
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Stefan0vic said:
No idea if this helps but i thought might as well contribute what it sais on my phone
Edit : i have a very high idle battery drain so any advice is welcome btw
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Thanks a lot for confirming this! I guess Android OS is indeed translated to "System" for Dutch S4's.
Have you tried my suggestions in the opening post?