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Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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Once rooted, even if running the stock ROM with su permissions, will I be able to even receive OTA updates (Froyo)? Or be solely responsible for flashing the firmware myself? Had a G1 before this but I ended up rooting it after all the updates to 1.6 had been sent out, so I'm unfamiliar how the world of rooting and OTA's collide. I would prefer to do as little modding as possible, even though my vibrant is much more of a high end phone than the G1, it got to a point where I was constantly flashing my phone with new mods and hacks and roms, and it got kind of frustrating having little things wrong here and there. I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.
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I'm sure right before the update becomes available you'll hear about it and you can always unroot ...
if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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if you install the OTA, you will download the OTA (which is a NON ROOTED update) therefore making your phone get UNROOTED. now, you WANT do avoid installing the OTA's because they will unroot you, but since you aren't running a custom rom on your phone, you WILL get the OTA from t-mobile, you just have to force urself to DECLINE the install (if you want to keep root) you can update to the OTA release if you want to get rid of root, but if you wait a couple days, someone will have hacked a rooted version of the update.
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or you can just re-root...correct?
most of the time when an ota update comes out they patch the exploit used to root... this probably will not happen with the galaxy s series phones... 1)Samsung intends to sell 10 million of these phones... 2)It wasnt an exploit, it was left open to begin with
I'm not even sure if T-mobile cares. They allow their customers to post information about rooting their phones on their own forum.
I would post the link but I'm not allowed until my account has been verified.
oh lol, the way i worded my post was inferring that the new update would have "patched" the way to get root, but your responses make me think otherwise lol.
Better safe than sorry if Root is important to you. Wait for a guinea pig to update and verify if root is still an option or not.....
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
I got my adfree so far, thats enough to make me happy for now.[/QUOTE]
Is add free really that important? If you don't want a 3mm bar on your screen buy the app. I click the add every time I open an app that is free. If you don't then all the dev will make apple apps... Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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bauerlucas said:
Just kind of selfish if you where to ask me.
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He didn't ask you.
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Not like we're getting an update ever. =|
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Looks like this is the case for the moment. Maybe we will see something soon though, but I still would like to know about my questions.
Charles Sloan said:
I was wondering the same thing too, but I have deleted most of the bloat ware that came with the brand. So after the ota and unroot, will these programs be reinstalled?
And if I did a factory reset would it restore the bloat ware and unroot the phone?
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Rather then making another thread about this, id just like to ask it here.
i know this has been asked about a million times, but i need to make in a million and one.
im rooted, clockwork recovery, mobile ap installed, and JAC kernel. I do not have any custom roms installed. Because of the custom kernel, im guessing that will keep me from receiving OTA?
Hey guys, I'm new to the Android community and I'm completely in love with it now that I had the phone for several weeks. Like every other phone I get, I'm always eager to customize it in all the ways possible.
So here is my question, rooting seems simple enough with the great guides you guys have here. However, I've heard that Android 2.2 is right around the corner with new great features. I read that if you upgrade your firmware, it will un-root your phone back to stock.
I'm already hungry to try the new features that a rooted phone can do but I'm thinking that this update is worth waiting for since this phone is new anyways.
Any opinions?
Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
Were would I find the rooted roms?
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Were would I find the rooted roms?
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In the development section.
Its a file you can find . Its not a rom. Your phone will still get the ota even after you root it. Can't say the same for custom roms
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Cool, thanks for the quick responds guys.
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Absolutely ROOT. I have some things to do once rooted in the sticky, please let me know if you have suggestions.
Rooting have nothing to do with ota update but flashing a customer rom will.
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Steps for success:
1. Root phone.
2. Wait for 2.2.
3. Download a 2.2 rom with root.
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i second this
Yeah, I think I'm going to root my phone soon. Thanks for the help!
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I'm thinking of rooting. My battery life is a joke. The only thing I miss about Nexus One besides trackball notifications.
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Not sure how rooting your phone is going to solve your battery issues? All that rooting does is give you root (superuser) permissions on your phone. You can do this to remove the bloatware that came preinstalled on the phone, run various apps that require root. But I can't think of any way that it's going to allow you to save battery life that you couldn't already do non-rooted.
My only reason to root was for wifi-tethering...
I know the newer version of Facebook is a battery eater. I switched back to the older style and my phone is happy again.
Root is great.
1. Remove bloat apps
2. Remove the annoying T-mobile jingle
3. Root Explorer is fun to play with
I think thats all I've really done so far. Well I should that I've wanted to really do so far.
Rooting isn't working for me otherwise I would have to agree :-(
^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
I pretty much had the same question. But after a little reading just now I actually understand what rooting is. Helps that I'm familiar with linux! Attempting to root in 5 4 3...
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So if you don't have a data plan you can't get the ota update? You must root? Mine is on AT&T with no data plan right now.
Isn't there much more to rooting then apps and root control? I've seen all the custome ROMs people get to customize the phone and theme just about everything.
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^ could you give a little more detail, so we can help?
Do you have the update file named update.zip.zip by accident?
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No I just Have a file named update.zip. I have tried two different methods twice now and once I'm in recovery and go to flash the zip it says it isn't there. I don't know what it is I'm doing wrong.
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So I rooted my phone earlier today. It was unbelievably easy to get the whole set up going.
Haven't had much time to fool around with it yet except for several apps that require root access, mainly to flash and back up my data in case of an oops.
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OTA coming tonight, for real this time
http://androidapproved.com/item/motorola-rolling-out-droid-2-ota-update-tonight/
Not if you are running Fission. Lol
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It does appear that rooted users need to beware.
I have removed all the bloat except for the 3G AP app, and I can not install the OTA.mainly because i am lazy I am going to SBF and then OTA and re-root.
Tell us if you can root after OTAing
Dumb question from me...
I just recently installed the 2.3.15 leak from Motorola (posted in the forums here). Will it still prompt me to update or do I have to sbf back to stock?
I'm rooted and deodexed, but otherwise stock. Have been checking for updates today and not received the update yet... I should at least see the update, yeS?
I got the update.
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Just following up here as well, do NOT attempt to SBF your device using the current available droid 2 sbf if you get the update. Angdroid/Motoboy was testing it out on his development D2 and it's now a paper weight.
My advice, exercise extreme caution with this OTA, from what I hear you will be stuck with stock D2 MotoBlur for hte time being if you update.
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Just following up here as well, do NOT attempt to SBF your device using the current available droid 2 sbf if you get the update. Angdroid/Motoboy was testing it out on his development D2 and it's now a paper weight.
My advice, exercise extreme caution with this OTA, from what I hear you will be stuck with stock D2 MotoBlur for hte time being if you update.
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Thanks for the tip!
I still haven't seen the update and am considering doing a factory reset. Has anyone gotten any information about the performance increase / battery life in the update, is it worthwhile to seek it out?
Is this update for the R2D2 version also?
I have been hitting system update now for a few days. Just a few times a day. I still have not gotten the update. Is there any way to make it go? I figured it would have gotten to me by now.
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I have been hitting system update now for a few days. Just a few times a day. I still have not gotten the update. Is there any way to make it go? I figured it would have gotten to me by now.
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Same here ...
at least im not the only one not getting it. Would doing a factory reset possibly kick it to start?
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at least im not the only one not getting it. Would doing a factory reset possibly kick it to start?
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Factory reset didn't do it for me. If you really want it, just flash the 2.3.2 SBF
This thread at droidforums has a link to an update file. Probably shorter/easier than applying a new .sbf, but same result.
People are also saying that the 1-2-3 root method will give root back after applying the update.
That said I have not applied either and have still not received the update automatically.
Verizon doesn't push the update to everyone at the same time, different markets will get the update at different times. They do this to not overload the servers
How would I tell if i got the update?
I gave up waiting and applied the update from droidforums using the stock bootloader. Worked like a charm on my stock droid 2. Haven't yet re-rooted since I don't really see a need for root at the moment.
I was able to pull down the update today. It just finished, so no comments or thoughts on it yet.
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I restored the bloatware and unrooted before applying the update. No issues upgrading. I have not tried to apply root again (yet).
My Atrix 4g is rooted on 4.1.57 and I am not seeing the latest 1.8.3 update. help!
Me either. I'm pretty sure its not because of root though since others with root have gotten the update
Thats what I was wondering. I was able to update with the root last time, I don't see why this would be different
So we need to unroot and then update ?
And then root 1.8.3 with Gingerbreak?
Nothing should effect your ability to see it. If you have one of the pseudo roms installed, that will prevent you from installing it, however.
I don't think we need to un-root to see the update - that really shouldn't effect anything. Once we get to 1.8.3 GingerBreak will root it fine, the issue is just getting to that point via OTA Update which we aren't seeing
no root here and I'm still not seeing it yet.
1.8.3 isn't live yet FFS. So much damn misinformation floating around.
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1.8.3 isn't live yet FFS. So much damn misinformation floating around.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/atandt-brings-hsupa-to-atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-one-requires-wifi/
frowny face?
And for a more solid piece of evidence that the previously mentioned article cited
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB117611
I would guess they're still in the process of "rolling out" the update. Just give it a little time.
My mom's Atrix is NOT rooted and isn't able to find the update. I have to flash the SBF through RSD Lite.
On a side note, the hell is
These software updates need to be installed in order, and are available to users via Wi-Fi only for the first 100 days
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supposed to mean D:
That makes no sense. Let me use my" 4g" to download the update. But thanks everyone keep up to date if you get the update
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/atandt-brings-hsupa-to-atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-one-requires-wifi/
frowny face?
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Rolling out doesn't mean live for everyone. Also, this update isn't official until ken releases Gingerblur 3.0 anyway, since the stock experience is pretty much a joke.
Is GingerBlur the best rom? // easy to install/update?
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Just flash the sbf it doesn't wipe any data of course im not running any mods or "roms" other than root. It did get rid of root though and running gingerRoot wiped my internal storage (like it said it would), but i backed that up no harm ;-)
So my area in NC is not "live" yet it seems.
Not live in Philadelphia either
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The patch isn't live yet folks! It's still being pushed out in testing.
I believe it's not root, but deodexed files which cause issues with updating. People with root have managed to update, but people like me who had GreyBlur had to flash back to 4.1.26, update to 4.1.57, update to 4.1.83, then root and sideload again. Also, before rooting, it's adviseable to use Kennethpenn's deodex flash for 4.1.83 first.
rooted, running gingerblur 2.5.. no update available yet here in south Florida. not too concerned about it though.. i did the HUSPA mod & i'm content for now
Hello XDA
I recently updated my phone through Verizon to
Android Version 2.3.3
System Verion 4.5.596
Before I was interested in rooting. I have been researching and tried everything I could find to root this version
but nothing has worked. (gingerbreak, z4root, easyroot, ect.) I did a factory reset/system wipe.
(still 2.3.3 - 4.5.596 on reset)
Am I doing something wrong? Should this version be rooting with GingerBreak or another root program?
(They all are stuck on loading screens never finish or reboot)
or (from what I have read) do I need to rollback to an earlier version to be able to load the 'prerooted'
gingerbread OS?
I am fairly new to this, and am sorry for my ignorance. If it is out there somewhere a link would safice
but as of now I haven't been able to find anything dealing directly with my situation. Thank you for any
and all help.
-Laskowsky
There's no rooting method through stock 2.3.3 yet
you're gonna have to SBF back to stock .340 and flash p3droid's OTA rooted gingerbread ROM
Ok, I was hoping there was a simplier way but expected that for the most part from what I had read. Thank you.
Rooting my Stock Gingerbread 2.3.3 (4.5.596) Droid X
I don't want to sound redundant to skate 72w but I have searched the forums up and down.. Is there any other one-click way to root my stock GB 4.5.596 droid x? I found this article
I do not see where it talks about the 4.5.596...
If not, can someone please direct me in the right way to get froyo back so I can have my wireless tether back!
Thanks,
-Nick
There is a rooting method or p3droid would not have been able to root. Wish he would share.
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There is a rooting method or p3droid would not have been able to root. Wish he would share.
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p3 tends to 'find' things that other folks don't have. He has a rooted .596 but it's achieved through flashing. He has not announced a way to root the OTA, and I think he would do so if he had one.
Everyone questions p3droids methods.
If you want to root: do some searching here.
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Everyone questions p3droids methods.
If you want to root: do some searching [URL=" http://tinyurl.com/5wjfnt"URL]here.[/URL]
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Your link doesn't seem to work.
kent c said:
Your link doesn't seem to work.
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Fail troll is fail
GB OTA is not rootable.........yet. If you want Froyo back you need to SBF back to it.
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Everyone questions p3droids methods.
If you want to root: do some searching here.
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LOL
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LOL
That is awesome....I should share with my staff when they ask me where and how I found an answer...
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@jmoney... that quite literally made me lmfao on the public bus
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Has anyone posted a root for the OTA version yet?
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Has anyone posted a root for the OTA version yet?
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Is the sticky still there?
I would consider myself to be a noob when it comes to rooting, all i want it for is the wireless tethering. I have done an sbf once but dont feel very good about doing it again, and am just looking for another one click method to rooting like z4root. I am running on gingerbread 4.5.596 from verizon.
OTA Root
I love my Droid X - hate the VZ CRAPWARE.
I now have the 4.5.596 (2.3.3) OTA update.
The only update method to obtain root is to SBF to Froyo - Root - and install the TBH/P3 Droid pre-rooted update.
At this point, I have too many apps installed and too many settings to reconfigure to take the route.
My main goal is to obtain root (such as a Z4 root style one click) so that I can maintain all my apps and configurations. Once I root, then I can freeze all the VZ Crap (every Google Maps update requires me to choose between GM and VZ Navigator the first time 1 click an address, and having to choose the contacts database EVERY TIME to Google is a PITA - Backup Assistant should be something I can DISABLE).
Sorry for the rant - to the point - does anyone know if ongoing efforts are being made to create a one-click Root for the Droid X? (Or a multi step that preserves data / apps / and settings)
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Everyone questions p3droids methods.
If you want to root: do some searching here.
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Lmao winning
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I also am fairly new to the rooting process as well as the DROID software myself..I had an iphone that I jailbroke and was very familiar with it and how it worked..I updated to 2.3 before I considered rooting..now I want to root..I have read alot on sbfing and returning to froyo ..what does this consist of and how do I do it ? Any help would be great..thanks
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go to the DX wiki and look for FULL sbf it gives u all the details u need and links to the files... helped me out alot when I bootlooped my dx
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guess what sucks about rooting leaks is that it gives the vendors the holes to repair.. if we didnt root the latest.. the ota probably would probably be rootable.