Near 100 % CPU Android System use - Epic 4G General

Hi, I'm running the stock 2.1 rom with root to allow for Roam Control, basically. Over the past 2 days I believe the origin of this problem is that the browser when going to the Google homepage will try to get my location and activate the GPS. Mind you it does this for several seconds regardless of me having the location option deselected everywhere...both in the Google search options, phone system settings, browser settings etc.
For those seconds it will usually come on and then go away, but then what happens every so often is it will lock, the GPS icon will constantly flash and the Watchdog app will tell me that Android system use goes up to 100%, with notable heat/drain from the battery and possible system instability.
Nothing will then make the browser respond, killing processes won't help (other than Android System which you obvs. can't kill) and the only solution is to reboot. It's persistent enough now that I've disabled GPS in case that helps trigger this.
What can I do? Is there some setting I didn't catch that can help avoid this abnormal issue? Anyone experience something similar and find a workaround? I basically see the cause as the browser wanting to get my location even though I don't want it to and then hijacking the system process, right? Help would be appreciated.
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Try a different browser and see if it does the same thing
Try dolphin browser HD
If the problem persists,make a nandroid, factory reset and then try using the browser. If it happens, then you got a bug somewhere and should try odining to see if that works.
If it still persists, then its time to get a replacement lol
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Thanks for the suggestion, however I *may* have fixed this. What I did is reboot the phone with GPS off (it had been permanently on). When going back to google.com I noticed it trying to locate me again, this time with the satellite icon flashing constantly and asking if it wanted to see places near me.
I checked the browser and google.com settings and discovered that they were the same. Curious why it'd still want my location, I then went to system settings under location and saw that only "use GPS satellites" was checked. Unchecking that seems to have done the trick, although IMO it's one which should be unneccessary and I'll have to redo that if I need an actual GPS lock. Or, maybe I should just let it do its annoying thing at google.com which is damn invasive and against all the rest of my settings. So, hope this fixed it and may be useful to others.

Have you done this?
Menu > more > settings > clear location access
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Since location access was disabled this whole time, that was already greyed out/cleared (in the browser) but maybe it'd be worth toggling/clearing again. Thanks.
ETA: no effect. As soon as I re-enable GPS google.com wants to get my location regardless of what all my other settings are. As long as it doesn't recreate the issue in my original post, I won't mind too much, but what an absurd conflict of software interests.
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This dumb issue has happened yet again--my workaround is now making the regular/full/desktop version of google.com my homepage. Sigh...
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Try going to(from homescreen) menu>settings>privacy and uncheck the one for google services.
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zanderman112 said:
Try going to(from homescreen) menu>settings>privacy and uncheck the one for google services.
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Thank you, but I'm pretty thorough, that one has also been unchecked the entire time. Toggling it back and forth may do something, although I doubt it.
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Ok, feel free to disregard if you have tried this as well, but have you tried changing the settings of your 'google' account on www.google.com? If I go to google.com on my phone, there is a link for 'settings', and under those settings is a selection titled 'Allow use of device location'. Try changing this to no if it is on yes.
This all refers to preferences stored on google servers, not through any settings actually on your phone.

I also appreciate you trying to help. Yes, that is the first thing I adjusted before going through everything else. It seems clear that this is an unhappy combination of faults from the phone and google's stubborn refusal to obey every indication that I do not want my location used on the mobile site. I wonder if anyone else has seen this bug--it's the worst I've encountered so far because it's been the one and only thing that's effectively made my phone need a forced reboot (besides the general sluggishness that develops every few days--but I could overlook that as I used to use *spit* WinMo 6.1 which could sometimes demand multiple reboots every day).
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I'm sorry to say that after a long relief of absence the GPS nonsense at google.com mobile reappeared today. No changes on my end, everything still off except GPS itself. I hope it doesn't lock my phone up again. Anyone have new info about this or a fix?

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Layar does not work

Since I purchased the phone layar has not worked. Each time I go to run it at the bottom it says updating featured.....it just sits there. Anyone else seeing this issue?
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Haven't had the problem myself. Assuming you've already power cycled, try clearing the application data (settings> manage applications> layer> clear data.) Then force stop.
If it doesn't show up in the list goto menu> filter> all.
If it still isn't working and you care enough to trouble shoot further, you can try a master reset or take out back to the store, though the above should fix it...
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mygti02 said:
Since I purchased the phone layar has not worked. Each time I go to run it at the bottom it says updating featured.....it just sits there. Anyone else seeing this issue?
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I've had this happen once or twice. I just blame the GPS and try again later.
Install GPS Status or GPS Test (I prefer the former) and check how many sats you have locked in.

[HOW TO] fix GPS Problem with custom ROM's!!

Hey everybody,
Just wanted to let you guys know that I was messing around with the GPS setting trying to get my location to be correct on the first try with Google Maps. After tinkering, I found that if I unchecked the Google location Services box in menu>settings>location my location was read almost instantly and accurately! Bidding me farewell to Google Maps saying I was 50 miles away from where I really was.
Hope this helps for everyone, I know it did for some friends.
Let me know if it works, and good luck!
Cool. My Google maps tracked exactly where I was. Even the corner of the intersection(where is my house is located on the street)
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I installed the zip file, after it took about a minute to lock on, and after it locks almost instantly. Is this normal to take so long first time locking on?
If you are using a custom ROM then yes it is. I know that from my experience, even after installing the zip I was getting a little lag and even getting the wrong location for about 3 second then it would lock on correctly. Doing what is mentioned in the original post fixed that problem for me entirely. Hope this answers your question!
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livestrong2012 said:
Hey everybody,
Just wanted to let you guys know that I was messing around with the GPS setting trying to get my location to be correct on the first try with Google Maps. After tinkering, I found that if I unchecked the Google location Services box in menu>settings>location my location was read almost instantly and accurately! Bidding me farewell to Google Maps saying I was 50 miles away from where I really was.
Hope this helps for everyone, I know it did for some friends.
Let me know if it works, and good luck!
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This is the greatest info I have read regarding the GPS issues with the Thunderbolt! Such a simple fix but one that doesn't make sense at all. Regardless thanks a heap OP! A mod should sticky this information for all to see!
Seems to break location altogether for me when I disable Google location services. Can't get a fix in maps or the sense flip clock weather.
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DigitalDementia said:
This is the greatest info I have read regarding the GPS issues with the Thunderbolt! Such a simple fix but one that doesn't make sense at all. Regardless thanks a heap OP! A mod should sticky this information for all to see!
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Great bud! Glad I could help!! I would love for a mod to sticky this, it is such an easy (odd but easy, lol) fix yet so many people absolutely hate that the gps won't work right. Hope more will see it and get their GPS working the way it should. Again glad I could help. That's the beauty of a community like this, between all of us, we can make so damn phenomenal phones! lol
livestrong2012 said:
Great bud! Glad I could help!! I would love for a mod to sticky this, it is such an easy (odd but easy, lol) fix yet so many people absolutely hate that the gps won't work right. Hope more will see it and get their GPS working the way it should. Again glad I could help. That's the beauty of a community like this, between all of us, we can make so damn phenomenal phones! lol
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Glad this works for you but its clearly not a fix.
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adrynalyne said:
Glad this works for you but its clearly not a fix.
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Sorry about that, i figured it would be safe to call it that since there is clearly no true fix to this issue anywhere as far as i know at least. Please do correct me if I'm wrong. It worked for quite a few people I know so I thought i would try to help some people out.
Thanks. At least its more accurate now.
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I think what we are seeing here is that the gps is not using agps at all. Proper operation would be the agps actually assisting the quicker lock. Instead the agps and gps are working separately and by disabling agps....the locks should still be slow no matter what.
It is for me anyway.
That said, standalone gps will always be more accurate.
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Funny thing is, standalone how isn't even working, since when you turn off Google location services it shuts off completely. Also for me it seems to be attached to WiFi so if its off it says I'm within a 2 mile wide area...
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Joanni said:
Funny thing is, standalone how isn't even working, since when you turn off Google location services it shuts off completely. Also for me it seems to be attached to WiFi so if its off it says I'm within a 2 mile wide area...
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No...that's how agps works. It will be within a few miles.
WiFi triangulation will always give quick locks.
Standalone gps does work, its just slooow.
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adrynalyne said:
No...that's how agps works. It will be within a few miles.
WiFi triangulation will always give quick locks.
Standalone gps does work, its just slooow.
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This. And it's frustrating
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I too was having the lag in getting a gps fix. My solution was:
1. Download GPS Status from the market
2. Under menu/tools select Manage A-GPS state
3. Press reset
4. back to menu/tools Manage A-GPS state
5. Press download
I now get instant fix.
Hope it works as well for you.
Alan
AlanPototsky said:
I too was having the lag in getting a gps fix. My solution was:
1. Download GPS Status from the market
2. Under menu/tools select Manage A-GPS state
3. Press reset
4. back to menu/tools Manage A-GPS state
5. Press download
I now get instant fix.
Hope it works as well for you.
Alan
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This just proves ephemeris data is not being downloaded, or used by the GPS automatically. I'm sure HTC will fix it in the future.
I hope, anyway.
AlanPototsky said:
I too was having the lag in getting a gps fix. My solution was:
1. Download GPS Status from the market
2. Under menu/tools select Manage A-GPS state
3. Press reset
4. back to menu/tools Manage A-GPS state
5. Press download
I now get instant fix.
Hope it works as well for you.
Alan
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This works for me!
AlanPototsky said:
I too was having the lag in getting a gps fix. My solution was:
1. Download GPS Status from the market
2. Under menu/tools select Manage A-GPS state
3. Press reset
4. back to menu/tools Manage A-GPS state
5. Press download
I now get instant fix.
Hope it works as well for you.
Alan
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Worked for me. Going from no lock to lock in under three seconds.
why is this in Development, nothing was developed, just a simple suggestion of changing settings which doesnt work for everyone.
AlanPototsky said:
I too was having the lag in getting a gps fix. My solution was:
1. Download GPS Status from the market
2. Under menu/tools select Manage A-GPS state
3. Press reset
4. back to menu/tools Manage A-GPS state
5. Press download
I now get instant fix.
Hope it works as well for you.
Alan
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This totally works thanks

Google Now discussions

Hey guys,
I opened this thread to see how people is using Google Now nowadays. I found myself excited about the launch of it, but now I found it pretty boring and useless. First, I sometimes use it for weather, the other functions are not really working. Everyday I'm going to my workplace, at the same hour, working in the office between 9 am - 2pm and 5 pm - 8 pm. I have the location history enabled, the house address and workplace address both added, I see the statistics in my dashboard and my current location in latitude (no check-ins however), but Google never advised me that I need to leave from home to be in-time at work or reverse. The only things I got was some live scores and some random mistakenly notifications like "78 minutes to home", while I was only like 200 meters away.... Also, I found that if I search my job address in Google Maps, the location is correctly shown, but in dashboard, I'm getting that briefcase (workplace icon) wrong positioned with around 80-100 meters. Otherwise, Google Now is answering to all my questions and working pretty good, but I don't find it really smart...
Google Now works well. It is just that Google Maps have a long way to go. Many routes it shows are not the fastest, etc.
Like you i was pretty excited about the whole thing, the problem is that the tradeoff in battery life simply isn't worth it for me.
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dan_hin said:
Like you i was pretty excited about the whole thing, the problem is that the tradeoff in battery life simply isn't worth it for me.
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absolutly agree with you..
i noticed that when i'm with wifi enabled, if i look at battery usage, wifi is always connected even in standby (with wifi disable option active)
double checked and if Gnow is disabled wif act as it was supposed..
It would be great if there was some way to change the location poll frequency to maybe every 15 minutes or whatever, rather than the default.
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I see no huge changes in battery life since I activated the location and search history in my phone just for Google Now. The problem is that the check-ins are not regular, I'm getting bad locations sometimes, so Google Now can't give me information about when I need to leave home because of traffic or so.... Nothing. Got one notification in a whole month and that one was wrong as I said in my first message. No idea what I need to do instead. Check in at work at the same hour daily? Why the pin sometimes is flying like 500 meters away from my location (that's what I see in dashboard) while the google maps app is showing my location with 16m accuracy even if I'm in a building?
dan_hin said:
It would be great if there was some way to change the location poll frequency to maybe every 15 minutes or whatever, rather than the default.
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Exactly, the poll frequency is not fixed, google is doing checks when it want so that's why I guess I'm not getting reminds about job etc
Trunkam said:
absolutly agree with you..
i noticed that when i'm with wifi enabled, if i look at battery usage, wifi is always connected even in standby (with wifi disable option active)
double checked and if Gnow is disabled wif act as it was supposed..
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Do you mean that even if you have wifi disabled you see it as enabled in battery usage? I'm not getting such thing.
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How can I remove Google now, I mean everything associate to it.
I'm impressed by it I take a different route to work than I do home and it automatically changed and reports them correctly
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dan_hin said:
It would be great if there was some way to change the location poll frequency to maybe every 15 minutes or whatever, rather than the default.
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You can change the way each card works and when you want them to appear, also changing the priority of the weather card to low also helps.
Not sure if that's what you meant
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bradputt said:
How can I remove Google now, I mean everything associate to it.
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Menu -> Settings -> Google Now -> Switch to OFF. then you can delete the location history and search history in Google Dashboard and disable the latitude and all the rest of stuff or you can simply reset the phone and don't activate it again.
dave6018 said:
I'm impressed by it I take a different route to work than I do home and it automatically changed and reports them correctly
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Glad is working well for you. Can you tell us what are the settings you use ? A screenshot with the pages of the settings ? I would like to give it a try.
Samsungnooby said:
You can change the way each card works and when you want them to appear, also changing the priority of the weather card to low also helps.
Not sure if that's what you meant
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He means that the Google is checking your location randomly instead to checking it every 15 minutes or so.
The big question is....how to make Google Now know that I'm starting the work at 9 am, so I will get those cards saying "30 minutes to work" or something like that. Google knows that I'm working as I'm getting those fancy graphics in the Dashboard (https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0/dashboard) saying that I'm working X hours per week and Y hours I'm home, but the data is not accurate perfectly. I reset the data but same story now. Not sure if it's because my location sometimes jumps some kilometers away even if I have the wifi and gps enabled. Do I need to use Latitude and autocheckin or something like that to get accurate data ?
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Menu -> Settings -> Google Now -> Switch to OFF. then you can delete the location history and search history in Google Dashboard and disable the latitude and all the rest of stuff or you can simply reset the phone and don't activate it again.
Glad is working well for you. Can you tell us what are the settings you use ? A screenshot with the pages of the settings ? I would like to give it a try.
He means that the Google is checking your location randomly instead to checking it every 15 minutes or so.
The big question is....how to make Google Now know that I'm starting the work at 9 am, so I will get those cards saying "30 minutes to work" or something like that. Google knows that I'm working as I'm getting those fancy graphics in the Dashboard (https://maps.google.com/locationhistory/b/0/dashboard) saying that I'm working X hours per week and Y hours I'm home, but the data is not accurate perfectly. I reset the data but same story now. Not sure if it's because my location sometimes jumps some kilometers away even if I have the wifi and gps enabled. Do I need to use Latitude and autocheckin or something like that to get accurate data ?
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Next appointment, travel time and location cards might be what you want.
http://support.google.com/websearch...ardlist&answer=2839499&rd=1&version=210020112
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Samsungnooby said:
Next appointment, travel time and location cards might be what you want.
http://support.google.com/websearch...ardlist&answer=2839499&rd=1&version=210020112
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More exactly, traffic cards.
I will try for the next days to click on "Update" here exactly when I'm arriving at office, maybe this way I will make google learn more about my locations...

[TUT] Major Speed Up for your "OLD" Nexus S

Hello!
Something I've noticed while using my old Nexus S while im waiting for Nexus 5
Go in Developer settings > Background process limit (all the way down)
set it to "At most 2 processes".
It will speed up your phone more than you can think without affecting performance.
Report your findings.
Btw I am using THIS Android 4.4 ROM with stock kernel on Dalvik.
Have fun!
EDIT: You must re-set this everytime phone reboots
miHah said:
Hello!
Something I've noticed while using my old Nexus S while im waiting for Nexus 5
Go in Developer settings > Background process limit (all the way down)
set it to "At most 2 processes".
It will speed up your phone more than you can think without affecting performance.
Report your findings.
Btw I am using THIS Android 4.4 ROM with stock kernel on Dalvik.
Have fun!
EDIT: You must re-set this everytime phone reboots
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It re-loads cache whenever i open up an app i previously opened. Like in messaging app, all contact icons won't get preloaded.
doesn't seems to have any impact at all on my Nexus S.
Yeah I am waiting for my Nexus 5 also!
This setting can only help you if you use memory-intensive apps, with the cost that most apps will start slower than before and also the background processes started by the apps can be killed more easily which is not always a desirable thing. Reducing the number of concurrent processes from the default can lead to unwanted consequences. These preferences aren't in the developer options by mistake, I would not fiddle with them if I don't have a valid reason. And "try this stuff, maybe it sppeds up your phone, maybe not" is definitely not one.
Eh, as i use my nexus s as an mp3 player it definitely helps run a lot smoother
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Eh, as i use my nexus s as an mp3 player it definitely helps run a lot smoother
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Try to put the phone in airplane mode, if you don't use cellular network or WiFi at all.
debaj said:
Try to put the phone in airplane mode, if you don't use cellular network or WiFi at all.
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WiFi can be used even on airplane mode.
ej8989 said:
WiFi can be used even on airplane mode.
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Yes you can, but it will cost you some CPU processing. I find my device more responsive in airplane mode where it does not need to handle the connections. If somebody does not use these functions it's worth a try before fiddling with some random setting from the bottom of the Development menu.
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unfortunate rrivure
debaj said:
Yes you can, but it will cost you some CPU processing. I find my device more responsive in airplane mode where it does not need to handle the connections. If somebody does not use these functions it's worth a try before fiddling with some random setting from the bottom of the Development menu.
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I've just tried this on my "old" Nexus S (my sister is using it now) and it doesn't seem to do anything different or faster...thanks anyway!

[Q] Default Apps not working?

Whenever I've clicked on a phone number to call via Google Maps, it would always show up that defaulted apps and ask me what i wanted to use.
Everytime it pops up, i keep clicking "Always" for the default dialer. I thought it would set it as default, but when i had to look up a business to call their place, that "Default Apps" keep popping up. Is this in any way connected to Samsung Hubs like how screen Rotations was related to samsung hubs removal?
Is there a way to fix this? I don't want to have to click it again while driving.
Dude, don't use your phone while driving.
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Dude, don't use your phone while driving.
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I don't. and what does that have to do with helping me?
Ziken said:
Whenever I've clicked on a phone number to call via Google Maps, it would always show up that defaulted apps and ask me what i wanted to use.
Everytime it pops up, i keep clicking "Always" for the default dialer. I thought it would set it as default, but when i had to look up a business to call their place, that "Default Apps" keep popping up. Is this in any way connected to Samsung Hubs like how screen Rotations was related to samsung hubs removal?
Is there a way to fix this? I don't want to have to click it again while driving.
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I tried it myself and it went right to the dialer without a pop up. What apps is it asking you to choose from? More of a work around than a fix, but... If you do not use the other apps, can you delete them? That way you shouldn't see the pop up?
guut13 said:
I tried it myself and it went right to the dialer without a pop up. What apps is it asking you to choose from? More of a work around than a fix, but... If you do not use the other apps, can you delete them? That way you shouldn't see the pop up?
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There were two, one a dialer and the other one is the Lookout. The one with the Lookout always ask to scan before dialing out. Don't get why it keep asking that.
EDIT: i think the same thing happen to the IE (Chrome) when it asked til i removed Chrome and it doesn't ask anymore. haven't tried it with the youtube yet.
Ziken said:
There were two, one a dialer and the other one is the Lookout. The one with the Lookout always ask to scan before dialing out. Don't get why it keep asking that.
EDIT: i think the same thing happen to the IE (Chrome) when it asked til i removed Chrome and it doesn't ask anymore. haven't tried it with the youtube yet.
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Well. You are probably aware, but lookout is your security/antivirus app, so it makes sense that it scans.
Unfortunately I do not have it installed so I cannot comment on how it is suppose to act.
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guut13 said:
Well. You are probably aware, but lookout is your security/antivirus app, so it makes sense that it scans.
Unfortunately I do not have it installed so I cannot comment on how it is suppose to act.
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That not the problem. What i meant is that the default doesn't work. It always ask, even when i select "Always use as Default". I had assumed that from that, it'll always use the apps i selected as a default, but for some reasons, it isn't working.
Ziken said:
That not the problem. What i meant is that the default doesn't work. It always ask, even when i select "Always use as Default". I had assumed that from that, it'll always use the apps i selected as a default, but for some reasons, it isn't working.
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I installed Lookout and was able to reproduce your experience. That might be the way lookout works. As a security app, it gives you the chance to scan everything before executing. OR It could just be a bug.
One thing is for sure... Lookout is the cause of your grief. You can play around with the Lookout settings, but in the end, you may have to choose what is more important to you.

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