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Android Bootable Live CD

http://code.google.com/p/live-android/
Just thought maybe people would like to have an android netbook of their own.
yes, it works, but just barely, they say that they are releasing a new version next month
keywords: Android, LiveCD, Live, CD, x86, Linux, asus, eee

wow amazing find. downloading now. thanks you soo much for the find.

Think I might jsut wait till next month but android on my laptop is just like running Linux so...

Frickin wicked cool! Live-MicroSD is how I already run linux, perhaps I can dual boot this off the same SD

Anyone try this? Call me stupid but I can't figure out how to turn 3 .rar files into one .iso image. Any help? I am usung ubuntu.

Okay so apparently you only need 1 of the rar files. I got it running on my asrpireone with ubuntu netbook remix in virtual box ose. It is glitchy as hell and can't do much, much cool as hell nontheless. Here are some screen shots.

Does this run like a ubuntu live cd? Just put disk in drive,reboot,and run? Will it erase any of my Windows partions? I just want to make sure before I try.

otto888 said:
Does this run like a ubuntu live cd? Just put disk in drive,reboot,and run? Will it erase any of my Windows partions? I just want to make sure before I try.
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Like you said, put the disk in, reboot, and run
it's pretty cool, if useless 'till they get wifi etc working.
btw, has anyone figured out the power key? I can't seem to find it.

If your using a desktop,look on the tower,it should be that green light. But really,I don't think the power key is mapped,I pressed every button on my keyboard,and no power options.

otto888 said:
If your using a desktop,look on the tower,it should be that green light. But really,I don't think the power key is mapped,I pressed every button on my keyboard,and no power options.
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Nor me. I found the menu key eventually (it's the "right click menu" key), but nothing for power. =(

I couldn't figure out the power button. I was running in virtual bow, so I just shut down vb. More important question, has anyone figured out how to root and apply roms? 8p

YAY I'm famous lol http://code.google.com/p/live-android/wiki/WhatUserSaid

This is great to play around with. I have a spare small laptop I use it on. Its tricky to navigate without the touch screen. I found myself touching my laptop screen lol. Is there any way I could get a mouse to work in android?

Can you run this off of an SD card or flashdrive?

diset16 said:
Can you run this off of an SD card or flashdrive?
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Yeah You can use a flash drive. Download the iso, then try http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8357/36490161445bbf49feaefix.jpg point to the iso and presto.

version 0.2 is out.
@liveandroid v0.2 new mirror for full-iso (located in Germany) http://bit.ly/wEx4m (thanks via @noiz1709)
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mouse and wifi works. still pretty useless but a nice novelty. Someone figure out how to install apps/games and mount folder as sdcard. lol

Google announced today there releasing Google Chrome OS for Netbooks
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=613

P_Dub_S said:
Google announced today there releasing Google Chrome OS for Netbooks
http://www.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=613
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i was so excited when I heard this because usually google doesnt announce anything until the release. then i did some research and realized it won't be out until 2nd half 2011. So sad. I understand why the early announcement. Hopefully they will create enough hype to atract the microsoft zombies.

Anyone get this working yet on a GMA Intel 945 gfx chip yet? (Aka netbooks) Got a S10e that wont boot into it yet.

I tried booting this up on a macbook and so far it only gets to the live android screen. It just seems stuck there.

Windows mobile OS on Nexus?

Ive seen People port from Windows mobile to Android.. is it possible opposite?
from Android to win mo?

ruslanriad said:
Ive seen People port from Windows mobile to Android.. is it possible opposite?
from Android to win mo?
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why on earth would you wanna ruin a perfectly good phone? lol

it 'may' be possible. nobody's working on it, as far as i know.
and, use the search button

you must like blue screens.

ruslanriad said:
Ive seen People port from Windows mobile to Android.. is it possible opposite?
from Android to win mo?
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timothydonohue said:
it 'may' be possible. nobody's working on it, as far as i know.
and, use the search button
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Like timothydonohue said... SEARCH. This worthless, waste of a thread topic has come up before and was promptly laughed off as a joke.

Why you asking for Windows Mobile, how about Windows Phone 7!

You CAN run Windoze on many laptops & desktops,,, but, why would you want to ??
Cheers!
Lodger (Smug linux user...)

windows is sh*tty i regreted buying hd2 rather than the nexus one be proud of your phone man and forget about windows and all its sh*t (from hd2 user )

While I do agree with these posts that Windows is a horrible mobile OS, let's at least try not to just fill this thread up with unhelpful opinions on how crappy it is.
The specs of the HD2 aren't vastly different to the Nexus so it may be possible to port that rom over, though I literally have no idea how or even if!

hoss_n2 said:
windows is sh*tty i regreted buying hd2 rather than the nexus one be proud of your phone man and forget about windows and all its sh*t (from hd2 user )
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I was on the fence about which phone I wanted. Decided to go with the Nexus One. If the HD2 ran Android, I'd get it in a heartbeat.

Ok forget why on earth you would want to do this... is it possible?
The main problem is that the bootloader sets up RAM and the MMU in a fixed way and then boots from a specific partition. Replacing the bootloader is dangerous, so you need a way to get around this.
When android is run on WM devices they get around this by using a Haret. This isnt an emulator, android doesnt run inside WM. This is what happens:
- Power up
- Bootloader runs
- Windows boots
- Run Haret
- Haret erases memory, reset the MMU, and efectivly undoes what the bootloader did and redoes it how we need it.
- Haret then loads android into the correct memory space and boots the kernel.
The exact same is possible in reverse. Using an app in android to reconfigure the MMU and boot windows.
However, you need ALOT of information about the APP processor in the phone, and its alot of work. As you can tell from the posts in this thread most people think its an insane idea and that Android is >>>>>> windows.
So although it IS possible you'll find it really hard to find a group of people with the motivation to do the work required to get it done.
People who say its impossible are il informed. People who say 'why the hell would you want to do it' are an illustration of the lack of motivation to put the work in to achieve it.

kam187 said:
Ok forget why on earth you would want to do this... is it possible?
The main problem is that the bootloader sets up RAM and the MMU in a fixed way and then boots from a specific partition. Replacing the bootloader is dangerous, so you need a way to get around this.
When android is run on WM devices they get around this by using a Haret. This isnt an emulator, android doesnt run inside WM. This is what happens:
- Power up
- Bootloader runs
- Windows boots
- Run Haret
- Haret erases memory, reset the MMU, and efectivly undoes what the bootloader did and redoes it how we need it.
- Haret then loads android into the correct memory space and boots the kernel.
The exact same is possible in reverse. Using an app in android to reconfigure the MMU and boot windows.
However, you need ALOT of information about the APP processor in the phone, and its alot of work. As you can tell from the posts in this thread most people think its an insane idea and that Android is >>>>>> windows.
So although it IS possible you'll find it really hard to find a group of people with the motivation to do the work required to get it done.
People who say its impossible are il informed. People who say 'why the hell would you want to do it' are an illustration of the lack of motivation to put the work in to achieve it.
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Thank you for your answer.
I used Windows mobile and yeah I didn't like it.
But i felt that WinMo OS is more powerful than Android.
Because everyone switch from WinMo to Android..
I just wanted to see how will it look opposite..
Nothing is Impossible. Its all just takes time and hard work.
People run different Oses on different hardware.
Sorry for taking your time guys. and yeah like you said there is allot of work have to be done.

Is installing Ubuntu/Linux on my Vaio w/ Vista a good idea?

I want to do some Android development and I currently have access to a Vaio running Vista Home Premium and a MacBook Pro running Leopard. I was considering installing Linux or Ubuntu on my Vaio, is this a good idea? What are the perks to an open source OS (I can only imagine after seeing what Linux based Android OS is capable of)

jbraucht said:
I want to do some Android development and I currently have access to a Vaio running Vista Home Premium and a MacBook Pro running Leopard. I was considering installing Linux or Ubuntu on my Vaio, is this a good idea? What are the perks to an open source OS (I can only imagine after seeing what Linux based Android OS is capable of)
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I don't think there's any as far as Android development is concerned. ADB and Eclipse run on Windows just as fine as they do on Linux, and if you need any GNU tools there's always Cygwin.
I develop under Linux myself, but that's just because it's my main OS (after you get around all the problems and learn how to use it basic tasks become quicker by a fair amount). If I were using Windows, I doubt I would bother putting Linux on my machine just for Android development.
Either way, it's up to you to try and see whichever is more comfortable for you.

I like the spirit of Linux. Microsoft is a soul sucking evil, not to mention Vista drains ungodly resources just to idle. If I load Ubuntu will it wipe my hd like any other OS? I don't have an external at the moment, is it possible to make a small storage partition that won't get touched?
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jbraucht said:
I like the spirit of Linux. Microsoft is a soul sucking evil, not to mention Vista drains ungodly resources just to idle. If I load Ubuntu will it wipe my hd like any other OS? I don't have an external at the moment, is it possible to make a small storage partition that won't get touched?
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It all depends on how you partition your HDD. If you have enough free space you can just shrink your Vista partition and install Ubuntu alongside it in a separate partition thus leaving your Windows untouched. Hit Google with something like "installing Ubuntu after Vista" and you'll get many useful guides.
Just note that after installing Ubuntu you might need a lot of coffee, many hours, or days, and lots of head bashing against the table before you will get everything to work as you'd like After that you'll be free again... totally free, until you decide to upgrade to a newer release

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Just note that after installing Ubuntu you might need a lot of coffee, many hours, or days, and lots of head bashing against the table before you will get everything to work as you'd like After that you'll be free again... totally free, until you decide to upgrade to a newer release
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now you're scaring me. i have my vaio open in front of me and all i can think is "remember how much stumbling through freeing the captivate made you a crazy person? just wait."

Now I'm getting tempted to wipe my old XP computer and stick Linux on it. Could be fun to learn.
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You can boot Ubuntu from CD-ROM or USB stick if you want to try it out. Of course it's a lot slower than a full installation but at least it won't touch your harddisc! Check out the Ubuntu site for instructions.
I have two laptops at home and in the meanwhile I'm running Ubuntu on both of them. The first one is dual booting with Windows 7 (in case I want to do some gaming) and on the second one I totally wiped out Windows!!!
I never did any Linux before but so far I didn't run into any problems at all. Ubuntu is working smooth directly after installation. No problem to connect to WLAN (just as easy as on Windows 7) and downloading apps, development tools, and whatever from Ubuntu software store is just as easy as on Android!
For Android app development you don't necessary need any Linux. But if you want to play with the NDK then you might want to know that there's no Google support for Windows, so Linux is recommended here. If you want to compile the Android OS itself then a Linux machine is more suitable as well.
On Windows there's still the possibilty to use some Cygwin emulation or whatever but I never tried it myself, instead I thought for myself: I want to do Linux or I don't want to do Linux?
If you are more comfortable with a Linux PC then you'll also get a better understanding on the way Android is working in case you are interested in the internals, file system, shell, etc.

jbraucht said:
now you're scaring me. i have my vaio open in front of me and all i can think is "remember how much stumbling through freeing the captivate made you a crazy person? just wait."
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Haha, well maybe I was a bit too harsh. Really depends how anal you are about things working properly

I have faith in my ability to fix anything. I can't change the boot options on my vaio tho, I can't get to the right menu
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I recommend ubuntu. Compared to earlier years, almost everything just works out of the box, very basic and easy. You can load up a live cd/usb, install along side your current os with a very small partition size [I use about 8g out of my 120g hdd] because ubuntu is smart enough to read ntfs file systems, so it will be able to read anything that is on the windows partition as well. It will automatically install grub, allowing you to pick between os's when you boot, and everything is swell. Though i would upgrade to windows 7 first, as vista = crap

HD2 NAND Slax? Is it possible?

Is it possible to develop a Slax NAND build for HD2?

Everything is possible, but someone needs to do it and this often depends on general or personal interest.. And as we see there isn't much interest even in Ubuntu.. Sadly..

I interested on this...
What's that? Linux? If yes, it should more easier to port it to the HD2...
WAIT! Where is the source code?

hopkinskong said:
I interested on this...
What's that? Linux? If yes, it should more easier to port it to the HD2...
WAIT! Where is the source code?
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It's a tiny linux @ slax.org and

yehoo said:
It's a tiny linux @ slax.org and
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and? and what?

hopkinskong said:
and? and what?
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Oh God the suspense!!!

Looks like a 'normal' Linux distro..
We already have Ubuntu if you want KDE.

Well its small enough to be flashed to NAND.

yeah this would actually be interestingly enough to port its only 200 MBs not bad if only someone started getting interested into building it, does sound like quite a treat

I'd use it. Wish I could build. D:

I interested on this and i want to compile it, just can't find the source...
If i can find the source, i also don't know where to start... This is my first porting!
PS: Only SD Version lol, i don't like flashing HSPL on my phone

I don't know why people seem to think there is no interest in Ubuntu on the HD2 anymore, people have just switched to using the nand version of android so without the magldr version being released people can't use ubuntu on their phones, I personally have been waiting for the last few months for the magldr version to launch but it seems like the project is dead, some users have reported getting it working but no one seems willing to explain in detail how they did it, or upload a working version them selves. Back to the topic, I would love to have slax as well.

great idea
this Slax is actually the best idea i've seen so far, when it comes to linux distro's on our HD2. now i can see why ubuntu is popular for desktops and laptops, and it's nice that it comes with all that bloatware so you can just run it right out of the box. in fact i currently run linux mint on my laptop and desktop at home which is very similar to ubuntu. i enjoy it a lot.
however, when it comes to our phones we dont necessarily need all that extra stuff hogging space, processor etc. if we could get Slax going, then we could choose those programs we want through the repository and who doesn't like to customize?
above all, this would also increase performance, as we've all come to learn that when it comes to computing, less programs = better. if i was in charge of the whole operation, i would suspend all linux projects right now and focus all elements on the Slax project. get this running and then branch from it.
2 big selling points...
1. size, Ubuntu 3+ gigs - Slax 200MB
2. portability. Slax is designed to be a 'pocket operating system' as it says on it's home page.
hope this gets going +1 for bringing it to attention.
Slax - your pocket operating system

I have recently uploaded guides to running Ubuntu, Debian etc at good speed under Nandroid. Check the Ubuntu Dev Forum.

Great, a big bump first
Ok, i just tried, Slackware worked on HD2 via MAGLDR(I didn't get WM6.5, so i didn't test on HaRET)
I have boot into runlevel 3(multiuser mode, hardware btn work)
but when i switch to runlevel 4, i can't start my GDM/KDE,XDE, and i have searched halfday on the web i can't find any solution...
I tried GDM for i486, it returned:
Code:
gdm-binary:cannot execute binary file
And i can't find any GDM for ARM... Hmm Yes, i find a GDM for arm, but it is debian...
So any solution?
Things need to be do more research:
Make GUI back using GDM/KDE/XDE
touchscreen?
3G?
Wifi?
I can't continue if i can't solve the GDM problem!
btw, i know slackware would very fast it was only ~200 MB, it would be faster if i put this on NAND, but how?

have you tried grabing the source for the GDM from wither the backtrack or ubuntu repos? with the source alone, you should be able to compile it into SLAX (if the lack of a custom kernel will let you though, ive been having that problem frequently with the BT im working on.)

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have you tried grabing the source for the GDM from wither the backtrack or ubuntu repos? with the source alone, you should be able to compile it into SLAX (if the lack of a custom kernel will let you though, ive been having that problem frequently with the BT im working on.)
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Will it be great just grab this?
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/
Thanks

I was thinking the easyist way to get it is to boot up bt or Ubuntu, go to synaptic, and find the source in there. I thougt I saw it in bt, but I can't check, all my batteries are dead lol
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z3nful said:
I was thinking the easyist way to get it is to boot up bt or Ubuntu, go to synaptic, and find the source in there. I thougt I saw it in bt, but I can't check, all my batteries are dead lol
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I just clone the git, then i can't continue, i received this error:
Code:
[email protected]:~/Desktop/HD2Slackware/gdm/gdm$ ./autogen.sh
No such schema 'org.gnome.power-manager'
No such schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys'
**Error**: Script `./data/make-dconf-override-db.sh' failed
But i have installed Power Manager already
And because i can't find gdm-source/dev in the package manager, so i think the HD2 Ubuntu will have a same result...
So... What should i do?
Thanks
Update:
I just grabbed a tar.gz from their site and it already contains "configure" file, so i don't need to do autogen.sh
And now its the problem, how to cross compile that stuff?
make <-- No error, but where is the product?
make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/path-of-toolchain <--- the result is same as running "make", i think it igroned my cross compile var lol
I felt sleepy, see your reply tomorrow... (Its 4:20 AM lol)

I got no idea, I've mainly just worked with debian/Ubuntu :/ I clouldnt find the right sources either
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[Q] Prepairing the HD2 for android...

So, I am going to installing Android for someone on their HD2, and while I have contacts and media covered (synced with both g-mail and myphone, and all media is stored on the sdcard), I figured I will probably need to test out several roms and see how they perform, how buggy they are, etc until I find a good one.
Yes I know there are guides here for that, those are what I am using.
HOWEVER, if it doesn't work out and we decide to switch back to Windows Mobile, while I know there are stock roms to do that too, is there any way I can sort of capture an image of the contents of the phone and directly just restore that? So I don't need to restore windows mobile and THEN start restoring it to the way it was?

I can only think of one thing that might do what you are wanting to do and that is SPB Backup.(Google it to find it)
Maybe someone else knows of something else too.

why not go for an SD ROM, see if you like android first, and keep WM 6.5 as is?

Robbie P said:
why not go for an SD ROM, see if you like android first, and keep WM 6.5 as is?
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I agree with this, it won't affect your wm os by doing this, and you can get a feel for how it works.

Android runs unusably slowly when off if stock sdcards

Cyber Akuma said:
Android runs unusably slowly when off if stock sdcards
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That depends entirely on the sd card you are using.

Cyber Akuma said:
Android runs unusably slowly when off if stock sdcards
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That depends entirely on the sd card you are using.
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and also on the build used - generally Sense-ROMs tend to be slower than the non-Sense ones,
for the last 3 months I've been running AmeriCanDroid (port of CyanogenMod made especially for HD2) from painfully slow 32gB card with no problems/lags/slowdown whatsoever...

The advantage of testing Android on SD cart before to pass to Nand is you can even have more than one build installed on the card at the same time.
you just have to change the name of the android directory (without space character) and edit the config file of the build to indicate the file path.