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Hello guys,
I used to be a proud owner of an HTC HD, which I recently sold, and now I am wondering what to buy next. The next phone I would like to own is a phone running Android and I know that HTC HD2 is capable of that. What my question is, if there is a significant difference in the performance between same hardware Android phones and the Android on HTC HD2. In other words, is it worth buying the HTC HD2 for use as an Android phone, or should I pay a little more money and buy a Desire for example. I would also like to know if 3D games are playable on Android on the HTC HD2 (as they werent on the HD, lagged like hell). Thanks in advance
Don't buy an HD2, buy an android phone instead.
PaKo0o said:
Hello guys,
I used to be a proud owner of an HTC HD, which I recently sold, and now I am wondering what to buy next. The next phone I would like to own is a phone running Android and I know that HTC HD2 is capable of that. What my question is, if there is a significant difference in the performance between same hardware Android phones and the Android on HTC HD2. In other words, is it worth buying the HTC HD2 for use as an Android phone, or should I pay a little more money and buy a Desire for example. I would also like to know if 3D games are playable on Android on the HTC HD2 (as they werent on the HD, lagged like hell). Thanks in advance
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well you will probably end up rooting any phone you get anyway apparently. Games have been flawless on my HD2, including a pretty heavy game like heavy gunner 3d. not 1 single bit of lag. But unless you can find an hd2 dirt cheap I'd get the new nexus s
I have also one more question. What is the progress of the Android on the HTC HD2. I know that it is not a ROM yet, is it like the one on the HTC HD (running Haret and its on the SD card) or is it something better? I read of some "Android Builds" but I don't really know the difference. Also will there ever be a Android ROM for the HD2 ?
my advice is if you have money to invest, buy either Desire HD or Nexus S. As much as smooth android runs on HD2, it is still can't be compared to a native android phone, the biggest problem being the battery drain. in standby it is alright, but when you use it it drains a lot.
I use Android on the HD2 because it's the one Tmo USA 3G capable phones hardware that I like that runs Android. I have/had Samsung Vibrant and prefer the HD2 hardware. I'm not a fan of the bulky G2. I like the 4.3" screen, and will not go back to using anything less than 4". I have not tried a MyTouch 4G because it doesn't offer anything compelling to draw me away from the HD2. But I have android running perfectly on my HD2, and it did take a bit of tinkering to get it running the way I want (Some SD cards work better than others, getting the build running, etc). Day to day it's every bit as good (and faster) than my Vibrant. There are a few minor quirks. Like having to unmount the card to install come applications from the marketplace. But, other than boot time there really isn't much advantage going to a phone that comes with Android.
PaKo0o said:
I have also one more question. What is the progress of the Android on the HTC HD2. I know that it is not a ROM yet, is it like the one on the HTC HD (running Haret and its on the SD card) or is it something better? I read of some "Android Builds" but I don't really know the difference. Also will there ever be a Android ROM for the HD2 ?
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It's nowhere near completion and I dont think it'll ever will. Even the blackstone like u said (which has been out for what 2yrs now?) still can't run android natively so you can kiss goodbye the possibility of android running on NAND anywhere in the distant future. It's a nice novelty idea to play around with if you already have an HD2 or familiar with the constant struggle that current developers are facing, but for everyday use, I'd say you're better off getting a pure android phone...much more efficient than what the HD2 can deliver on crutches.
Yeah, if you want to run android, you'll be better off getting a native android phone. Why buy a phone to run a port of android when you can get a phone that was made to run it.
Now if you also want to run winmo and don't mind putting in a lot of time testing out different android builds and working out bugs and quirks of a ported android, then the hd2 is a good phone... but don't expect it to run as well as a native android phone.
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lude219 said:
It's nowhere near completion and I dont think it'll ever will. Even the blackstone like u said (which has been out for what 2yrs now?) still can't run android natively so you can kiss goodbye the possibility of android running on NAND anywhere in the distant future. It's a nice novelty idea to play around with if you already have an HD2 or familiar with the constant struggle that current developers are facing, but for everyday use, I'd say you're better off getting a pure android phone...much more efficient than what the HD2 can deliver on crutches.
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Yes it's taking time because there has been lot's of updates in android going on... and the developers has to keep up with those updates , hence it seems endless... but still HD2 is hell lot of device. and it can't be compared to native android devices....
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rajivshahi said:
Yes it's taking time because there has been lot's of updates in android going on... and the developers has to keep up with those updates , hence it seems endless... but still HD2 is hell lot of device. and it can't be compared to native android devices....
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I think you missed the whole point of what was said...
Well actually, the only thing I'd like to use Android for is the Games. I'm okay with using WinMo the other time (for browsing the net, watching movies. etc.). So I guess thats possible. Also why not buy an Android phone you ask? Well, cause the 4.3 inch Android phones are a hell of a lot more expensive. And one more thing, the HTC HD Blackstone didn't get a full Android ROM because all of the developers migrated to the HTC HD2 Leo.
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Well actually, the only thing I'd like to use Android for is the Games. I'm okay with using WinMo the other time (for browsing the net, watching movies. etc.). So I guess thats possible. Also why not buy an Android phone you ask? Well, cause the 4.3 inch Android phones are a hell of a lot more expensive. And one more thing, the HTC HD Blackstone didn't get a full Android ROM because all of the developers migrated to the HTC HD2 Leo.
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So basically the only thing going for you are the 4.3in screen and the fact that it's cheaper than android phones in that price range? I don't know about a 4.3in but most samsung galaxy S line are about $150 with a 2yr contract and you can probably find an X10 for pennies. Unless you REALLLYYY want to dual boot winmo and android, I don't see why anyone would waste their time, money and energy and would get the HD2 just for running android to play games...don't you think that's a little ass-backward? Why would anyone want a winmo phone, running haret on SD card, booting android...just to play android games? hahaha
Oh well, it's your money, do whatever you want with it
If you want android for gaming, I would get something from the Samsung galaxy line... it has a much better gpu, which isn't currently being taken advantage of by apps and games, but since Google's new development phone, the nexus s, is basicly a galaxy phone and has same chipset, future development and games will surely take advantage of it. Basicly, android developers and Google are going to use the nexus s as the standard to develop for like they currently use the nexus one... so many more games will be designed based around the chipset the nexus s and all the galaxy s line of phones use.
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So basically the only thing going for you are the 4.3in screen and the fact that it's cheaper than android phones in that price range? I don't know about a 4.3in but most samsung galaxy S line are about $150 with a 2yr contract and you can probably find an X10 for pennies. Unless you REALLLYYY want to dual boot winmo and android, I don't see why anyone would waste their time, money and energy and would get the HD2 just for running android to play games...don't you think that's a little ass-backward? Why would anyone want a winmo phone, running haret on SD card, booting android...just to play android games? hahaha
Oh well, it's your money, do whatever you want with it
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I can find one reason. HD2 i very good phone, but if i would like to get just phone i would use Nokia E51 or something similar... I like to play with my device, its kind of toy and HD2 has excellent dev community. Going back to original question. If you want just working device with Android buy something with Android installed natively, but if you don't mind or, like me, like playing with your phone HD2 is very good choice.
Well, I never use WinMo any more.
Android has everything I need.
And it is fast and I seldom experience bugs.
The only real downside is that you really have to be a power user. I spent a lot of hours updating and tweaking. But, then again, I love that
I agree that the HD2 is a nice device. The build quality is extraordinary.
I have had a look at both Desire HD and HD7 -- none of them have as good build quality. Samsung and SE always felt plastic-ish.
If you get a HD2 cheap today - sure, try it out.
But if I were to buy a new phone today - I would probably buy a native Android.
Alright so I thought id give my two cents. I've owned a nexus one and a galaxy s as far as Android phones go. I went back to the hd2 for a couple of reasons. First off, its a lot cheaper than any other phone with comparable hardware. Look on Craigslist Nd you can find a new hd2 for like $200. I like the screen better than the samoled
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Didn't finish, lol. Anyways, the amoled screens aren't as clear as the lcd on the hd2. The colors and contrast of the amoled screens were amazing but I didn't like how you could see pixels. Second, the hd2 has so many roms, even more than the nexus one. And finally, from my experience, the hd2 has been a lot faster than either of those phones. I'm running a desire hd Rom and the quadrant score is higher than either of the phones I mentioned, even after I modded them. Last thing ill say is battery life is definitely not a big problem. Id get about 1 hour more with the nexus one or galaxy than my hd2 with Android. I can easily go 10+ hours on pretty heavy use. Turn internet off and you can go way way longer. So battery life with Android running off an SD card is fine. Oh last thing, changing builds is so easy, just copy a new build on your phone and that's it. So get an hd2. Won't regret it.
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The HD2, has introduced me to both WP7 and Android.
One day I load up WP7 and say to myself, this is the perfect operating system why do I need anything else.
The the next day I boot into Android and say the same.
Then I think I should sell my HD2 and buy a HD7, then I think NO, I should buy a Desire HD, then I think I should keep the HD2.
Problem is you can still get some money for a HD2 and be able to put it towards a newer phone, can't justify buying another phone.
Here are my confused thoughts, Android seems to be getting more and more fragmented, probably best to wait until the new dual cores arrive, or I could add cash to the sale of my HD2 and get a brilliant Desire HD, but then will this be any better than I already have.
Or I could go the route of WP7 and get a HD7, the future looks new and fresh for this operating system, as am not entirely sure how long Microsoft will allow us HD2 owners to use activation codes, will future updates continue by the amazing DFT team, will Microsoft put a stop to it all, so many if's, so If I go for an official HD7 I would not have to worry about all this.
Sorry to ramble on about this, but as you can see I am confused.
So I need the straight to the point style XDA members to kick me up the bum and give there polished advice?
There is no phone with significant hardware upgrades over the HD2 besides maybe the Atrix, but I wouldn't waste my time with that motocrap. Selling the device now instead of later might yield even up to $100 more but IMO it's not worth it, you can run WM6.5, Android, and WP7 (nodo soon).
If you buy an HD7 I can almost guarantee you will regret that decision in about a week or less, the HD2 is the exact same phone except multi-touch doesn't work quite as well and that's it. what other Android device you gonna buy, DHD really? Why? ok the display is a little better, not worth the hassle. Wait until an Evo3D type of device comes to GSM, big screen, Sense, dual-core, good stuff.
If I were you I'd stick with my HD2 till something significantly better in the Android world comes out, or an iPhone 5.
I think it's not worth to upgrade. The spec of HD7 and Desire HD are more or less the same to HD2.
Sounds like upgrading just for the sake of an upgrade. My contract date is due in 6 weeks, I'll be keeping the Leo and just dropping to a sim only contract for less than half the price. The money I save ill be buying a spare Leo for when mine finally snaps.(broken screen, not rigid anymore,,, the adrenaline surges when you hear it bend and creak in your pocket, lemme tell you!)
what I think is,
firstly, you need to ask yourself which system you prefer more.
I have used both of android and WP7. What I learned is that even Leo can run both of them, it cannot show all the advantage.
For example, I got a Dell streak running an android 2.2. I found that the battery consumption, the camera quality, the speaker volume and so on are so much better than my Leo with Froyo, although the main hardwares of Leo and Streak are supposed to be exactly the same. These maybe due to the driver faulty when being ported.
And I got an HD7 as well. The reason I bought HD7 is that I'm sick of using the physical button on my Leo. And also there is no physical shutter and auto focusing on Leo. Don't you think when you're taking picture with your Leo, the image looks really bad? Without this, you may not really experience the most advantage of WP7 - social network.
Personally, I'll go for the HD7. If you buy a DHD, I pretty sure you'll regret that because it'll sometimes be really laggy, and this would be a common problem of all android device currently (because I had never try any dual-core phone). Now I already put my Dell Streak aside because as a phone and as a communication tool WP7 is amazing.
I'll never go for iPhones. I hate iTune... haha
Camera quality in android is both drivers and HTC's fault, if there is anything to blame, I found images pleasing, although it was a bit aggresive with sharpening. HTC's fault being their imaging algorithim may not be up to par with the streak's own, as you say. Driver's fault in being that the camera driver is not entirely the HD2's own.
Well any experienced HD2 user knows full well WP7 on the HD2 doesn't give us auto focus. hence why a dev developed a camera app that lets us auto focus.
Now stock rom of a dhd? More likely it will be "laggy", aren't all android stock roms "laggy" anyways? But on a custom rom it will perform better. But the "laggy" doesn't come from android, it comes from HTC sense. Hence why non sense builds perform so nicely. So yeah, i'm just pointing out that not all android devices face this problem, nor do they have to. The solution is to simply install a non sense build.
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Camera quality in android is both drivers and HTC's fault...
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well, the camera may be my personal problem. I was just making an example. to me, taking photo anywhere and sharing it on facebook, flickr whatever immediately is very cool. That's why i can't accept an HD2 with WP7.
for the android, based on my experience, the lag doesn't come from android itself. it's due to the way it runs. Not only the HTC sense will make the device laggy, dell stage is also doing the same thing. Every time when I'm sliding from screen to screen, as long as the background data or auto sync is on and I turn to a screen which got a widget needing to download or refresh, it could be laggy. For example, the HTC Favorite and some news feed widgets. I also tried the ADW launcher, it's the same. The more widgets, the more laggy it is. and working with Wifi would be better than only running on 3G network. I also tried some customized roms. It is much better than the stock rom indeed and the one with original laucher is really the best as you said. but I'm a guy who like eyes candies...compared to iOS and WP7, this lag is really intolerable, at least to me...
in term of Market Apps, Iphone is best. So many useful apps and can be easily downloaded.
You can easily get bored with the GUI, just the same as WP7.
Android is good, I have both HTC Aria and HTC Desire Z. Even their processor speed is lower than HD2, but it runs faster (default clock). But, I hate that I cant download commercial apps in the Android Market (not open in my region)
My HD2 will either be sold (if someone is willing to buy) or kept it as a portable wifi router
Cheers
keep the Leo
My personal experiences with Android and WP7 phones weren't anything spectacular.
My Leo is definitely better than either for what I use it for.
I will not be upgrading anytime soon unless something really spectacular comes out that just blows me away.
My advice, stick with your Leo, run WP7 on it and dual boot with Android on SD.
Win-win
Hello! I've currently got an HTC Desire and I'm not that happy with Android. I'm tired of the laggy, inconsistant and boring UI of both Sense and stock Android. I've had an iPod Touch and I've got an iPad and I'm a big fan of iOS, but I want to try something new.
I've been reading about WP7 a lot and it looks very interesting, I've also tried different WP7 phones in stores and I fell in love with the smoothness and consistant Metro UI.
The phone that I'm thinking of at the moment is the HD2, I think that it would be a good choice for me because it is able to run a various number of platforms (I like modding my phone and trying new stuff). So I've got a few questions about the phone:
The phone is almost 2 years old, is it hardware good enough to meet todays and tomorrow's requirements?
How is the screen of the HD2 compared to the Desire's (WVGA, 3,7", AMOLED)? Does multi-touch gestures work well? Is it dual-touch or does it support more than two fingers?
Is Spotify available for WP7 yet?
Are any key features missing in the WP7 port for HD2 (such as camera, headphone jack or WiFi not working?)?
What other platforms than Android, WM 6.5 and WP7 does the HD2 run? I saw that there are sections for Ubuntu and MeeGo here at XDA, are those platforms stable enough for daily use? How well does Android run?
Should I buy a used one or a new one?
How is the battery life?
What are your opinions? Would you buy a HD2 today? Opinions and recommendations about other phones are welcome as well!
Thanks in advance
1. I'd say yes. It might get a little more outdated when two core or even quad core processors roll out. One the other hand, there is no operating system that could use more power than HD2 has.
2. Screen is the weakest part of HD2, AMOLED technology is a lot better in terms of picture quality as well as power saving. I'd say it is just OK.
3. No idea.
4. No idea.
5. HD2 can currently run WM6.5, WP7 and Android - all stable and all working. Meego and Ubuntu are rather proof of concepts and not useful for daily use.
6. Now this is up to you. If you're short of money, go for used one. If you can afford a new one, get a new one.
7. Depends how much you use the phone, what operating system you're running etc. I managed to get about 4 days of standby(stock battery!) on Android with automatic internet connection and mail syncing every 30 minutes and 3G off. I consider it pretty good for a smartphone.
However, the most important thing about this phone is the number of supporters here at XDA. There are hundreds of ROMs to choose from, you can try a new one every day And well, I do not think there are many phones that can multiboot two systems(there are some that can handle different systems, but each change requires reflash).
I am a person who can afford any phone any time. If someone told me that there is a HD2 with amoled screen, quad core cpu and 4 gigs of ram and (it still can multiboot) for $2000, I'd buy it right away. Back to reality - in my opinion there is no better phone out there.
Well, it's hardware is now pretty old compared to most of the phones out there. But it still works I haven't seen any place where I'd be like oh crap I wish I had another phone this is just too slow.. Never.
Screen = Big Let Down. You won't be all that happy with the screen rest assured
Multi-touch works well but not so well in WP7. I believe it is dual touch.
Spotify is available on WP7 last I checked it will take you a spotify wp7 google search.
Meego, Ubuntu not for daily use development has as far as I remember become extremely slow.
Key feature missing in WP7 for HD2 is camera gives green tint when used with flash. And imo camera quality is never as good with android or wp7 than with WM6.5 for hd2.
Take a used one from craigslist. Should be good enough.
Battery life not as good due to the aforementioned screen and 1250 mAh battery.
But, I still personally love my HD2 and won't part with it till the development from this community stops and I honestly believe WP7 would surely work perfect on the HD2 in the near future. Peace
Thanks for the responses! The only thing that makes me doubt atm is the screen.. Really love the blacks on the Desire's AMOLED display, but I guess that I'll get used to the HD2's display.
Anyone done the jump from AMOLED/S-LCD/S-AMOLED to LCD?
Kinda.. My bro has a Galaxy S another has a S2 a friend has Sensation.. So seen many pretty nice screens must admit my hd2 looks pretty sad in front of those displays.. But, when I show them Android CM7, Sense, WP7 and all.. They all say please tell us how to do it
Go get an hd2 it will be the best thing that ever happened to you cell phone wise
I won't make another topic for the same question, so I just reply to this one. I hope it won't call as digging up...
After XDA threads answering 90% of my questions, I still have one:
I will be able to afford an HD2 in March-April 2012. That said, I don't want to end up thinking "Gosh, why did I buy it?" after 3-4 months; is this phone still able to survive another year of support here, at XDA? I don't have enough cash to buy another $400 phone after half a year, so it is quite important.
Thanks in advance.
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I won't make another topic for the same question, so I just reply to this one. I hope it won't call as digging up...
After XDA threads answering 90% of my questions, I still have one:
I will be able to afford an HD2 in March-April 2012. That said, I don't want to end up thinking "Gosh, why did I buy it?" after 3-4 months; is this phone still able to survive another year of support here, at XDA? I don't have enough cash to buy another $400 phone after half a year, so it is quite important.
Thanks in advance.
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to be honest, it is a guess at this time. i mean in 6 months from now, there might be some new amazing things on the market. i would just come back and check in 5 months or so. and nicely done, not starting a new thread!
If i were u i wont even think of getting this phone.
Ya in 6 months from not there will be more new stuff out there. So talking of the current market i think compared to other newer phones the HD2 is really good. 4.3 inch display, capability to rum multiple OS's. And it's blazing fast in wp7 and android
BUT...
Just google the number of HD2 users suffering with the same fault it has. I'm a victim of the same and i feel like dashing this crap on the floor. I'm sick and tired of this. Even after performing a mtty still it restarts.
So..
Either u have to be really like others to get a good phone without any faults or you too will be suffering like the rest of the HD2 owners. WHY TAKING THAT CHANCE? IF I WERE YOU I WOULD NOT EVEN IF IT CAN RUN 1000 OS's..
I am really happy with my HD2 & it has been faultless for me on my personal setup WM6.5.x, but if you are likely to be going Android you are better looking at newer devices that are native Android.
Most hardware failures & bugs are on those users running Multi OSs or Nand Droid/W7 .
Thinking of Buying an HD2?
Thinking of Buying an HD2?
Read here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284389
and here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271507
Those of you suffering WP7 restarts/freeze etc, get yourselves a new SD Card. There's plenty of data on this in the WP7 forum.
Thanks for answering, it really means a lot to me.
Ok, time to explain my history (which is a long and complicated one):
I am 15 years old, so I just have to rely on my parents' money. I got my first mobile when I was... 9? Something like that. I remember, how everyone in the school was excited by color screens! And l was proud of having a camera, even though the quality of the photos was pretty bad. But, hey, it was a camera! In the mobile!
In 2007 I got my first "smartphone". It was Nokia 6120 classic with Symbian. But I was scared about losing the warranty, so I didn't do much with it (that is, I didn't "hack" the Symbian, which is still nothing compared to modding Android). Still, I was happy with it for 2 years.
But then comes 2009 and "touchscreen time". God, how the prices of those phones dropped then! I bought a Samsung Corby. Yeah, it was a downgrade from Symbian, but at least I was able to get used to the touchscreen. I sold it in March 2011 for an acceptable price.
And here comes the "smartphone age". I bought my Galaxy Spica in July 2011. I know, probably You haven't heard of this phone, but in Poland and Russia it is quite popular. I bought it simply because of the mods - right now it is considered "The slowest phone ever" on some Polish Android forum, but, guess what? I am happy with it. It is running CM6 right now and is currently lying on my left, charging happily.
If I'm happy - why should I replace it? Well, first of all, the battery got klilled. One day I can go through 8 lessons and the phone will still be at 100%, and next day, without even touching it - bam, drops to 52%. I know, replace the battery and so on, and so on. But it really sometimes makes me mad when I have to do a "battery reset" for the third time, because it won't unlock...
I remember how I was scared before the first root of my Spica... And it went great, start to finish! Everything goes great when You follow the guides, that's what I learned in the past few months. No phone can be compared to HD2 when it comes to modding (at least IMHO), and it gives you the "WOW" factor among your friends, hehe! Nothing better then coming to a group of people showing off their 199$ Android phone and showing them the HD2's dual-boot!
What really made me excited about the HD2 is not only a modders paradise it offers, but also the wonderful support here. Heck, the HD2 Android board has more posts than most other phones section added up! And more, and more posts are coming up everyday. I would really like to have, like, 4 smartphones in my house - Android, iPhone, WP7 and probably another Android... But I just don't have the money for it. (*blames his country for its poor wages*) I do not demand every new version of Android or WP7 being ported to HD2 (because it's just too much), but I'd be happy with, let's say, one-two next major versions of Android and the next major version of WP7.
In one sentence: I definitely enjoy modding everything, I love the big choice of ROMs available here and I just hope the development doesn't stop on Mango and Gingerbread - if it's so: HD2, here I come!
If You really read the whole story (written in a very poor English - sorry, I'm a native Polish speaker), then congrats, and I hope You will be able to answer my question: Will HD2 as a multi-OS phone satisfy my needs, which are not connected to display or dual-core, but tot the software only? And sorry for the chaotic post, I shouldn't have replied in the midnight. ^^
Get one. I broke mine and am currently looking for another HD2. I could go get the new GSII but I don't really want it.
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Thinking of Buying an HD2?
Read here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284389
and here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271507
Those of you suffering WP7 restarts/freeze etc, get yourselves a new SD Card. There's plenty of data on this in the WP7 forum.
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Ok, that is enough for me, I am going for it... After I get the money of course.
BTW: @stepthehen: I've read the second story before and that's why I asked - if this phone has gone through two years and can mean so much for people...
It is a great phone & if the price is right then still a trenendous bit of kit.
The flip side : if you are not likely to want WM6.5.x or multi-boot & are paying high end price then it is not the best option.
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It is a great phone & if the price is right then still a trenendous bit of kit.
The flip side : if you are not likely to want WM6.5.x or multi-boot & are paying high end price then it is not the best option.
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My mum says it is quite expensive, but, hey! Many phones nowadays have similar, if not worse, specs, but they are being sold with a higher price tag, simply because "they're new".
And I do want the multi-boot and I do want to play with OSes. Actually it's my #1 reason. ^^
My HD2 decided to go faulty so I claimed on the insurance I have with my bank account. After some faffing around with them not repairing it twice they have offered the cash equivalent of a HTC Trophy from Amazon.co.uk as the HD2 is no longer available new. They offered a HTC Legend but I said this was too low a spec when compared to the HD2.
I could get another HD2 off eBay and their cash settlement easily covers the cost. I am wondering whether this is a good move though as Windows Mobile 6.5 development seems to have ground to a halt. I cooked my own WM 6.5 ROM(s) but have suffered with the Phone Canvas issues, VoIP & earpiece issues, Bluetooth issues plus some other issues that I never really found fixes for.
I had Androind running off the SD card on the HD2 but it was never perfect, although this could have been down to the versions I was playing around with. Development for Android seems to be continuing (and gathering pace). I also installed Windows Phone 7 at one point but quickly removed it was just too restrictive (this was a while ago however so things may have changed?).
I could go full-on Android and get a HTC Desire HD for slightly more than a HD2 and again the insurance money easily covers this. I think all the features and software I had with the HD2 I can get (equivalents of?) with the DHD. Plus the DHD has the same physical dimensions as the HD2 so it should fit the HD2 car cradle?
The key uses of my HD2 were:
A phone - calls, contacts, SMS/MMS
Email - Exchange ActiveSync - plus hotmail with Windows Live and POP3/SMTP with my personal email.
SatNav - I use TomTom Navigator
Internet access
VoIP - I use SIP to get cheap calls when outside the UK.
I think everything except TomTom I can replace with Android equivalents.
Any advice?
Andy
Really I am always very surprised when I hear about HD2 with WM 6.5. Already using Android on NAND (MIUI) for 2 years and have never thought of returning to WM.
Dont know what to suggest. If I had the same, I probably took HD2 again. However in my country HD2 is a bit more expensive than Desire HD. Around 540 USD. Don't know about Amazon. Any possibility for you to add some extra money to the claimed one and buy Desire HD?
Synoptex said:
Really I am always very surprised when I hear about HD2 with WM 6.5. Already using Android on NAND (MIUI) for 2 years and have never thought of returning to WM.
Dont know what to suggest. If I had the same, I probably took HD2 again. However in my country HD2 is a bit more expensive than Desire HD. Around 540 USD. Don't know about Amazon. Any possibility for you to add some extra money to the claimed one and buy Desire HD?
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Hi and thanks for replying. The insurance money will more than cover buying either a HD2 or a Desire HD so the cost isn't the problem. I was just after some opinions/advice on whether to get another HD2 or something else based on my usage (satnav, email etc).
Andy
Desire Hd is a really good phone but if you like changing rom or OS hd2 is better
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replace ?
i had the screen go on my HD2 and just replaced the phone will get another screen and have 2 at some point ,I dont realy see another phone/ operating system around that is that much better than the Leo at the moment.I have ran Andriod and 7 but as nice as they are i just like my cookies home and all my apps. I would suggest getting a 2nd hand HD2 and keeping the change to maybee buy another phone in about a year as prices drop a lot (however not realy that fast on the Leo)
Regards Mark
To be honest, I don't see anything at the moment that is coming close to HD2 due to the versatility of the OS and options available. Sure, there are higher spec phones on the market, perhaps with better screens and dual core CPU, but it's not about the specs, is it? I have my T-Mobile HD2 and it gave me the opportunity to have the best of both worlds - Mango and Android running without any trouble. I was torn between WP7 and Android for some time, until Mango came along (thanks, Yuki and XBmod, among many others - you, guys, are the best) and the choice of dual booting was made. The biggest problem I am facing every day is what OS to start the day with, haha. A friend of mine has purchased Samsung Galaxy SII last weekend after giving up on Iphone and following my Android recommendations, but now he envies my HD2 running Android and WP7.5 because he likes it a lot too, HTC Hub made him cry with envy . So there he was, saying 'But it's a thousand dollar phone, why can't I have both too???'. He likes his phone very much and it is an impressive piece of electronics, but it's not HD2...
A few years ago and after many, many HTC smartphones, I got JasJar (HTC Universal) and reached a point where nothing that came on the market afterwards could lure me away. I still have it, but the only phone that could take its place in my heart is HD2.
So if you can't be bothered reading all of the above, what I am trying to say is yep, another HD2 would be something I would go for in your position. Best of luck.
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markthomson1404 said:
i had the screen go on my HD2 and just replaced the phone will get another screen and have 2 at some point ,I dont realy see another phone/ operating system around that is that much better than the Leo at the moment.I have ran Andriod and 7 but as nice as they are i just like my cookies home and all my apps. I would suggest getting a 2nd hand HD2 and keeping the change to maybee buy another phone in about a year as prices drop a lot (however not realy that fast on the Leo)
Regards Mark
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Or... you might want to part with the broken screen one, as in sell it to me, because I am looking for a mainboard to have another Leo repaired and used for development. Just a suggestion.
.................I am looking for a mainboard to have another Leo repaired and used for development. Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]
Would do but was planning on getting the screen fixed so as to have a spare , however if thats not viable we will see
Regards Mark
i bought a hd2 last week, since the i have tried like 20 different roms both wp7 and android ones, and i m loving it,, but i m curious to know that how come this is the only phone that can do this, i mean wat is in it ( or not there in it) , that makes it support different operating systems.
One word DFT!
OK so I guess it is actually three Dark Forces Team. A group of devs including Cotula that dove head first into the phone once we found out that Micro$oft was going to leave us high and dry when it cam to WP7. They and all of the other devs that flocked to this phone, mostly because of its top of the line specs at the time and even still for the most part, are why this phone is still a beast!
Really all our phone doesn't have is a front facing camera, better screen resolution, and higher ram. And truthful the last one is really not that far behind what is out in the "top of the line "phones coming out today, and none are true deal breakers
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yes i totally agree,its still not far behind in terms of performance, i tried out Shadowgun game in galaxy s2 and was amazed by its graphics, but then i tested it on hd2 ics 4.04 , i was surprised to see that it gave me almost same graphics as s2 , and ran really smoothly..
And wen i thought of reason exactly same reason struk my mind that, this was an awesum device getting ruined on wp6.5, so i order to have wp7 in it all this development happened..
But wat i want to know is if some developers gives his everything to some other phone , like they gave everything to hd2 , can some other device of today replace hd2 in terms of multiple operating systems support....
I really don't have high hopes for any other phones following the course of the HD2. People now are really one way or another (either love android or WP7 not both and most "hate" the opposing OS). Heck if I knew how to do it I would love to see IOS and the new BB10 on here just to prove once again HD2 is king!
The reason I think we got all of this was the fact that when they found out wp6.5 was dieing they wanted to get something that would be supported for longer. Android was in the beginning of its boom and WP7 was still in development at MS so some devs got together and got Android to boot on SD using HARET. People fell in love and DFT started working on nand. During this time devs started using the base we were given to get Linux and Windows running from SD. DFT got nand working with magldr then WP7 dropped and I have a feeling Cotula really likes it (since that seems to be the bulk of his posts lately) so he reformatted magldr to be able to run both. Then meego came out and development sounded promising but never got the attention from the right devs plus it was dropped by nokia (I think) so I don't see that going anywhere.
I think the main reason we have all this is that the SPL was torn down and fully understood meaning that they were able to turn the phone into a blank slate with the ability to control every aspect of it with the right code (magldr) . Leaving it possible to do whatever they wanted. Plus the open source nature of android helps!
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@tobiascrystal
thanks for the mini-history of our HD2, i too was wondering like amitoj about the HD2. I guess coz it was the last line in the wp6.5 series with still so much power in it that it became what it was now.
I was also searching the net for a similar phone that can run magldr & other bootloader but found none or a few is in development. I was thinking since a lot of other phones out there have similar spec as the HD2 can't they do the same for those?
I would say that anything is possible with enough time, brain power, and motivation (and maybe some cash) . All these newer smartphones are nothing but mini computers and could, in theory, all do the same thing as the HD2 but like I said you have to have someone(s) that is really devoted. If I remember correctly it took over a year of coding for DFT to get magldr ready for the masses. I am not sure what the next super phone is going to be that catches that kind of developer attention. I tell you one thing though, the day I hear about it I don't care if I have to pay full retail I will be next in line to buy it!
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Indeed, I fear the time when my HD2 will die and I will be forced to use new phone with stock roms Hopefully till this time, some phone will get as much attentions as our beloved leo.
@delwing
i guess, other phones do accept custom roms , but not of a totally different operating system.
We are lucky that this device got so much attention from developers , but really after using it , i dont think ill ever like any phone more than this. and i guess hd2 is gonna be one of a kind for years to come. But i really wish that there comes a phone which is as beautiful as HD2 and which can match high end specs of today's phones. At present its specs are more than wat are required , but in an year or two we will need some phone like this with better specs.
I am in the Philippines and am currently using htc One X. But I have been searching for a brand new HTC HD2 for a long time now and I can't seem to find one I miss this beast of a phone. This is the first time I have used android by the way. Call me old school, but I like WM6.5 better. Even better than WP7.5. Personally I think the possibilities in customization on HD2 is endless. hehehe..of course hardware wise it got left beind but still...anyone know where I can get a bnew one?
Thailand still has them available including new boxed TMOUS models ...
WM6.5 is the king of customization & good settings, only software development made Android popular, the actual OS is ****e ...
there will never be an HD2 again, the market is so diluted with *cough-****e-* cough that developers and would be developers are spread out to thin.
The HD2 was king simply because it was THE phone to have, there was very little similar to it, and the power within its S1 SoC was way ahead of anything else, thus we ended up with a situation where the HD2 was the place to be. The fact that soft SPL then hard SPL was done quickly followed by Android booting from within WM cemented its fame, the final rise to power was MAGLDR, allowing pretty much anything to be done. Live it up guys, as sure as bears crap in the woods, this will never happen to a device again so long as they keep pumping out so much crap in to the markets and doing everything to lock them down.
very simple answer to the question.
it can only run
wm 6.5, wp7, all the versions of Android, meego and Ubuntu
enyaj said:
I am in the Philippines and am currently using htc One X. But I have been searching for a brand new HTC HD2 for a long time now and I can't seem to find one I miss this beast of a phone. This is the first time I have used android by the way. Call me old school, but I like WM6.5 better. Even better than WP7.5. Personally I think the possibilities in customization on HD2 is endless. hehehe..of course hardware wise it got left beind but still...anyone know where I can get a bnew one?
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ebay HK still have some new ones & they ship worldwide, give it a search
G.O.A.T.
I have been waiting to see the HD2 in the Guinness Book of World Records for the number of OS's on one Phone.
I am just as pleased or more so today as I was when I woke up early to be at T-Mobile when the doors opened to be the first to have one. I work for AT&T and I see lots of new phone come and go. As best I can tell most people love their OS. Unlike most of us HD2 owners here who love our phone.
I would also like to thank the developers for their hard word and staying ahead of the pack. For Example, I was running a stable version of ICS months before the newer phones received their updates or pre-installs appeared in the work place.
I truly believe that the HTC-HD2 will be looked at as one of the G.O.A.T.. (Greatest of all Time)