Hey everyone! I hate to take up another thread but i like to be as sure as possible when it comes to messing with ODIN, since from what i understand that is where most people have likely bricked their phone.
Currently im running sonofskywalkers 2.3 rom i believe with DI01. I want to update to the newest one, which from what i understand means i need to upgrade to DL09.
My question is they say not to flash 01 stuff to over 09, so do i need to completely revert back to stock to push the new stuff since the rom i am running currently is for 01. Or am i safe to go ahead and update the radio and stuff, and boot up and get into rom manager to download the newest rom?
Thanks for your patience community and quick and helpful responses.
You are fine flashing over what you have, the issues mainly come up when you don't flash all the parts together (ROM, kernel, modem).
As far as Odin goes, as long as you use the PDA function, and not the PHONE function, you will be fine.
Edit: BTW, are you running a voodoo kernel? If so, that needs to be disabled before proceeding
For one, make sure voodoo is disabled if its on your kernal. If thats okay, then I would just odin this and then try to find a root method that would work. Or instead of rooting your stock, just flash a rooted rom onto your phone after the full odin.
BTW if you do want to keep stock, know that it can be a pain to get root to work. For some people it can be annoyingly hard, while others are able to use something simple such as the one click root. I was able to get one click to work, but it varies. If something goes wrong, you can always just re-odin the full package again.
I thought i might add here that you mentioned reading not to flash di01 stuff over dl09.
What that means is after you odin the dl09 upgrade you should no longer flash roms, kernels, themes and such that are not dl09. Flashing a di01 kernel would not work once you upgrade to dl09.
Hope this helps.
Have fun
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I came from a g1 (just flashed things willy nilly without worrying) and am very cautious about flashing my vibrant. all i have done is rooted and applied oclf. I also flashed the stock lock screen. I have been reading the threads for many roms and it seems flashing on the vibrant isn't quite the same as the g1. what should i know about kernels and flashing back to stock? also what do i need to know about odin?
btw, my vibrant is not hardware locked.
I came from the same place, I've been reading threads for a while so let me see if I can help you out, at least a little.
When doing a nandroid backup disable any lag fix.
When flashing a ROM disable any lag fix.
When you flash a ROM it doesn't flash your kernel, so you need to be extremely careful to also flash a kernel if needed, otherwise you may be stuck at the Vibrant screen. Be especially careful if you're messing with Froyo here.
You can find lots of ODIN guides. I've only used ODIN once to flash back to stock and I haven't had any problems. Odin Guide.
When using ODIN lots of people have had troubles when they click the repartition check mark. I personally don't know much about it, but just be sure to read threads thoroughly
I think that's the gist of it.... I'm sure others have lots more to add.
Also: this thread has pretty much EVERYTHING
rbirg said:
I came from the same place, I've been reading threads for a while so let me see if I can help you out, at least a little.
When doing a nandroid backup disable any lag fix.
When flashing a ROM disable any lag fix.
When you flash a ROM it doesn't flash your kernel, so you need to be extremely careful to also flash a kernel if needed, otherwise you may be stuck at the Vibrant screen. Be especially careful if you're messing with Froyo here.
You can find lots of ODIN guides. I've only used ODIN once to flash back to stock and I haven't had any problems. Odin Guide.
When using ODIN lots of people have had troubles when they click the repartition check mark. I personally don't know much about it, but just be sure to read threads thoroughly
I think that's the gist of it.... I'm sure others have lots more to add.
Also: this thread has pretty much EVERYTHING
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thanks! 10char
is it really worth flashing a rom (like bionix (sp?)) or should i wait until cyanogenmod or the official froyo are is released?
Just a few clarifications:
Clockwork flashable ROMs can & usually do contain kernels. It's when backing up/restoring a nandroid backup that the kernel is not included, so always be sure that you have a compatible kernel to flash along with your restore if necessary.
If you are *not* hardware locked then your phone is virtually unbrickable provided you learn how to use Odin effectively. As far as repartitioning in Odin goes, AFAIK the reason it usually causes problems is that many Odin flashable images do not contain the partitioning data. The stock JFD tar does however.
Even if you are hardware locked I believe a flashable fix has finally been discovered. I can't vouch for its efficacy as I never needed it but others have confirmed it works. I'd link to the thread but I'm just too lazy right now to look for it. A quick browse or search of the forum should find it anyway if anyone needs it.
gonintendo said:
is it really worth flashing a rom (like bionix (sp?)) or should i wait until cyanogenmod or the official froyo are is released?
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I recommend you use Haykuro's newest SPL when installing bionix and be careful when getting into the splash screen.
Ha ha just kidding nothing to worry about with Vibrants :]
But I do recommend Bionix, there is not THAT much advantages from stock ROM but you do get rid of all bloatware, phone is snappier, and also themed. But you don't lose anything by trying. And yes make sure to disable, and please MAKE SURE you disable Voodoo lag fix, that is the only fix you should disable before making a Nandroid Backup or flashing a new ROM.
I've looked around and I can only find ODIN roms for J16. Anything that can be flashed with Clockwork? It's probably right in front of me knowing me. Am I missing something?
No, ODIN is not an option.
I just installed bionix fusion, which is based on JI6 but with the JI2 modem. However there is a clockwork-flashable JI6 modem that I used.
This took about 10 seconds to locate:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808830
I saw that, but I also saw that it had some wifi bugs while reading the topic. I'll try it but I need a clean and bugless flashable image of J16.
I hate bumping topics, but I have to. Are there any stock J16 clockwork flashable images available that do not have Wifi issues?
If not, do you think when Froyo stock is released they will have one? I really want Touchwiz froyo when it comes out (Soon! The i9000 is getting updates as we speak). Whether it's having stock J16 and upgrading through the carrier or flashing a stock froyo rom through clockwork, I just want to make sure I have TW froyo.
If you just need the ji6 modem then can't you just go to team whiskey website they have the ji2 n ji6 modems.. If thats not what your looking for then sorry.
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It doesn't appear that there are solid flashable JFD/JI6 ROMs. Some will argue about TouchWiz, Bionix has integrated a portion of TW in Fusion but you want stock. So....
Option 1) Buckle down, sell the Apple, get a PC, use Odin, install JI6.
Option 2) If you've got a newer Apple, buckle down, install parallels/bootcamp, install XP/Win7, use Odin, install JI6.
Option 3) Use a friends PC, use Odin, install JI6.
~SB
ODIN isn't an option because you are using a Mac? I don't think I read that. Please inform us otherwise why you can't use ODIN.
wait, if all this is just because of froyo, just freaking flash eugene r6 when it comes out or just wait for one of the developers to get the OTA froyo and make a flashable version.
Flash bionix and enjoy it in the meatime...
kangxi said:
ODIN isn't an option because you are using a Mac? I don't think I read that. Please inform us otherwise why you can't use ODIN.
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99.7% of the time that's the predominant answer as to why someone can't use Odin. So I'm assuming that's why s/he can't...
I'd like an answer too, I hate following the SWAG principle.
~SB
I should have mentioned why I can't use ODIN. Haha. Well, there ARE only Mac's around me but my issue is that my computer that I have with me where I'm at currently is my netbook. ODIN is too big for the resolution on my little 10.1 inch screen. Haha. I guess I can try dual booting an old copy of XP on my brothers Macbook.
EDIT: I might have been the only one in the world to not like Bionix. The standby battery life was meh on my device. I'm using AOSPish by Anderdroid and I love it. My quest for stock TW was in case I ever needed to send the device back to T-Mo.
I know there is a Dk 28 version now but I'm still kind of new to the game and want to fully understand everything b4 moving on. I was able to get viper rom dk 17 2.8 installed this wkend after a bunch of mistakes on my part. Everything seems to be working well on this version except for the fact if I go to any web page that requires me to log in. When I click on where I type in my username or password the page will force close. Seems like some sort of security issue. Is there a setting I can change or is this a limitation of DK 17 version. Thanks for your help.
For future reference, this post should go in the Question and Answers section.
That being said, DK17 is an older leak, therefore support for it is going to be minimal. It also wasn't around all that long, so devs didn't spend a huge amount of time on it. The DK28 roms are going to be more stable.
If I were you I would go to this thread : Return to Stock
- Once your phone is back to stock, root it again like you did the first time using the one click.
- Download and install the DK28 modem and pit file using Odin. Should be the same steps you took to install the DK17 modem and pit.
- Then download one of the DK28 roms, i.e. viper, bonsai, quantum. Install those from clockwork.
If you need steps explained a little better than post, but don't do anything you are unsure of, cause you don't want to turn your phone into a paper weight.
swanysto said:
For future reference, this post should go in the Question and Answers section.
That being said, DK17 is an older leak, therefore support for it is going to be minimal. It also wasn't around all that long, so devs didn't spend a huge amount of time on it. The DK28 roms are going to be more stable.
If I were you I would go to this thread : Return to Stock
- Once your phone is back to stock, root it again like you did the first time using the one click.
- Download and install the DK28 modem and pit file using Odin. Should be the same steps you took to install the DK17 modem and pit.
- Then download one of the DK28 roms, i.e. viper, bonsai, quantum. Install those from clockwork.
If you need steps explained a little better than post, but don't do anything you are unsure of, cause you don't want to turn your phone into a paper weight.
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Will do. Thanks for your help.
It's really a shame to start off in a place with a post that has someone mad at themselves for performing a soft brick on their relatively new Verizon Samsung Fascinate. I have to admit I love the phone, but after seeing some videos about DarkyMod I was so impressed I felt compelled to try it.
All I've done, far as I know, is Rooted the phone, but I also used Odin and apparently flashed the incorrect kernel. So what happens now is when I power on my Fascinate, I get a Galaxy S (GT-i9000) screen. At this point, the phone reboots. I know I'm an idiot for having used the wrong Odin kernel, but after attempting to decipher the post in the Darky's installation for "first timers" I apparently choose the incorrect kernel.
At any rate, I suppose I could ask for an experienced modder for the right kernel, the one that would allow me to perform the flash after I had installed the ROM Manager, etc.. But I doubt that would help. What I'm looking for is a file which has been removed from the forums here, and was originally in someone's Dropbox account.
I believe that the file that I'm looking for is the "Stock-i500-VZW-Kernel.tar.md5"... I might be incorrect, as I had mentioned I believed I had successfully "rooted" the phone, but when I used Odin to flash the kernel, I think that's where I went wrong. Can anyone help me find this file? Or should I get the modified kernel, which will allow me to perform the backups and then the flashing to this mod? Thanks ahead of time, I do apologize for the length of the post.
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Samsung Fascinate (Verizon) DL09
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867648
thats full d101 thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885262
thats full dj05 thread
both should be able to get you back to stock through odin then you can restart what you did. personally i keep both handy since i already had to use them due to an error that cause the phone to freeze up completely at the samsung logo. hope that helps
Thank you kdaz!
I'll give that download a shot real fast and see what happens. I'm assuming you've modded/rooted your Samsung Fascinate? Which of those Odin kernels did you use to successfully start changing things? I never did get past the "update.zip" part, it always came back with an error.
Thanks for taking the time to write a response, I really feel bad to post and have my first ever be a soft bricked phone, haha!
Quick thank you...
After looking all over the forums here, and elsewhere... I did find what I was looking for, though I didn't manage to restore the kernel and save my settings, I did unbrick the phone by reapplying the DL01 firmware with the Odin software. The forums here were a huge help, and I just wanted to say thanks!
haha glad you got it working. yes i have rooted and modded mine. got it last thursday brand new and was modding it on friday when i got back from vacation. friday night i feared that i had totally bricked it but luckily found both of those files on the forums. i believe i used the dl05 one then imediately updated to the dl09 radio and now running blaze voodoo kernel clocked at 1.2ghz and i honestly forget what rom lol waiting to use aosp
Thank god these phones are so easy to unbrick with Odin. Almost impossible to truly brick, though sometimes you might lose some data here and there or it won't save your data etc. That's why you might need to odin the full stock rom more than once
Thanks for the responses guys, kudos!
I had really hoped to start using Darky's ROM but it turned out that I didn't have the right modem file, or at least, that's what Darky said. At any rate I was kind of curious which custom ROMs you guys are using and why? The names alone should be sufficient, there's so much information here on these forums.
I admit I'm worried to reflash but at the same time, I know how to do it and if something goes wrong I just use Odin and apply DL01, or whatever the original ROM is called. Any thoughts about good and fast custom ROMs on the VZW Fascinate, guys?
Look for the full DL09 Odin, DI01 is really old and DJ05 was killed inside VZ before it was ever released to the general public.
As you have discovered, the Fascinate is its own animal and you cannot flash stuff made for other Galaxy S phones to it unless you feel like breaking your phone on purpose. Most of us are running one derivative or another of DL09 that has been hacked up in various ways to remove the stock bloatware, add root/themes, add new functionality into the kernel, etc. Some of us are using AOSP or CyanogenMod froyo-based roms which (still) have many/most things broken. We are finally about to have official updates to 2.2 and that is the missing piece that was needed to get full custom development working. Big changes will be coming before we know it.
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I had just read earlier that there was a Froyo leak, I'll be really curious to see whether or not it speeds things up or not. It sounds like the custom ROMs are here for our VZW Fascinate but what I'm really looking (and waiting for like everyone else) is just Froyo. I'm grateful to everyone here who reached out and helped.
I'm not sure if my rooting days are done, but I got pretty scared when I thought I'd bricked this thing. Can't thank you guys, and the community, enough.
im currently running OTB ul1300 kernel which has the voltage turned down and processor speed of 1.3ghz and im currently running the dl09 supah clean rom. was running kaoscinate yesterday but missed being able to use my camera. the flashablility of this phone is great..i love just switching roms and kernels almost completely at will. cant wait until they get the leaked froyo out to use but im enjoying trying everything else until then.
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I had just read earlier that there was a Froyo leak, I'll be really curious to see whether or not it speeds things up or not.
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If you really want a boost in your phone speed, you should look into getting custom ROMs and kernels, not Froyo. There are a bunch of kernels out there that are overclocked (and even undervolted, to save battery life too) that will significantly improve your performance.
The best thing you can do with your phone is to get yourself a custom ROM - something like Blackhole 3.0 by sonofskywalker or SuperClean 0.4. Those will get rid of the bloatware crap that Verizon puts on your phone, and (more importantly) change the default search from that P.O.S. Bing back to Google.
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Dont believe the current methods of rooting supports EA28. Why dont you flash EB01 roms as those are pre-rooted. (Along with modem)
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rubenhan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948679
can i just use this method even if it's not rooted?
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No, you will need to be rooted as it uses CWM.
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11410537
It will use Odin instead of CWM, also pre-rooted.
My phone udated to EA28 right after I got it and I had a little trouble getting it rooted as well. What ultimately helped me was this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10601576&postcount=1
Specifically the part where he says
I have found that the stock Samsung kernel is very sneaky and replaces clockwork on the next reboot...it seems to be most common with those who have updated using Verizon's OTA updates. Odin users usually do not see the issue and hence, was tough to track down.
So to alleviate this, please add an extra option to your list of things to do. On FIRST boot into clockwork recovery, please flash your appropriate kernel of choice. For simplicity, I have added a rather plain kernel (non-voodoo) for those who may want to flash their choice of kernel later. This must be done for those who have this problem, no matter if clockwork is red or green.
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There is a link to a kernel to flash before rebooting your phone. Worked for me.
By the way, I have just recently come from a Motorola Droid where I've been flashing ROMs for the past year. This phone does seem slightly more difficult, but so far (almost two weeks in) I'm really pleased with it. I'm currently running Super Clean 2.4 with VooDoo.
Good luck!
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