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class action against HTC/Microsoft?

What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?

HTC and Microsoft never promised a WP7S upgrade.
If you're thinking about raising a class action for something that wasn't in the contract of sale, you are, as we say in Scotland, an eejit (idiot).
Sell your HD2 now and be phone-less for 6 months, then buy a Wp7s capable phone. Or at the very least wait for an official announcement on whether it will be upgradable or not.

they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??

bricked device? it still works doesn't it? you've got a year or so before 7 really hits the mass market, that doesn't stop your phone from working NOW.
do you look at cars the same way? I got my Renault Laguna, it's made in 2001 but I'm not moaning because they don't let me upgrade to the nice shiny 2010 model engine just because i have an older version.
I don't get the complaining about being able to have 7 on their phone when clearly it doesn't have the hardware (4 point multi touch, 3 buttons etc) that windows 7 needs.
I'm sure MS or HTC will take the OS as far as they feel like before 7 rolls out and I would not doubt that some of the clever code monkeys here on XDA will be able to cook up a fantastic 7 ROM that will work in some way on our currently working and rather impressive HD2's

why are people complaining about not having win7 available on the device when it is out in about 7 months time? Did you buy the HD2 SOLELY on the basis it would have this upgrade in OS? Did HTC promise you that it was going to upgraded to win7 when it came out?

ozkaya said:
they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??
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WP7 is not new version of WM6.5. Call it Zune Phone and it all becomes clear.
And even if free upgrade is offered sometimes with desktop computers, it clearly is stated as a part of the contract. Here it was not. If you don't like it, you should have not bought it.

I had thought of hanging on to my Touch Pro until WP7 came out. I ended up getting the HD2 and I've never had so much fun with a phone.
We are spoiled rotten in this community. I can get my device to do anything I want it to do and a few things I hadn't even thought of thanks to the hard work, generosity and smarts of the good people who contribute to these forums.
Come on! We don't even know if we will like WP7 yet! Enjoy the amazing device you have. Modify it, flash it, load a thousand apps on it if you like.
By the time WP7 is stable, usable and has a load of good apps, we'll probably be good and ready for an upgrade.

If the HD2 does everything you need in a phone what does it matter if it will run 7 or not? Especially if HTC never promised it would.
If its just for epeen status you're gonna look like gypsy joe anyway come the time trying to run a new OS on an old phone. Either way I am sure some bright spark on XDA will make 7 run on the HD2.

Also remember that WP7 is brand new OS with no applications at all. It will take at least a year till it will start to be usable for basic operation. We don't know how hard it will be to adapt actual applications. It might be minor modifications, it might be totally impossible, and everything would have to be done from the scratch.
Yes .. we all want new better WM .. but WP7 is just not that.

How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.

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How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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you are right but most applications developers stoped developing for wm6.5 and starts to develope for the upcoming wp7 series so it is wm6.5 end (but not in an official way)

reasons why this bull
1 in the box which my htc hd2 was piece of paper saying that this phone would get a upgrade to wm7
2 there footage of wm7 on the htc hd2
3 the fact that ms always denie all rumours about all their products
4 no device has 4 point mutil touch if was the case this would be a big deal for microsoft as apple owns the patents for true mutil touch screens
5 windows specs change all the time and this is true for all software
6 the htc hd2 pro is coming out and professionals would want wm7

a piece of paper may say they will do 7 but maybe the rules changed and they discovered in the full release version they can't run wm7
i'm sure the initial idea was great but reality has deemed the hd2 not suitable for wm7
would a pro want an OS that's not allowing backward compatibility of their "pro" apps? no so maybe they'll stick with 6.5xxxx
have you actually tried wm7 yet? all this fuss and it might turn out to be rubbish then i guess you'll bring another class action against MS to say you want 6.5 back
whether it be Apple/MS/HTC they can't please everyone but to rant about it BEFORE the OS is out is pretty pointless. think logically rather than throw toys from pram please

I think WP7 will be business oriented. Only think they can do better then the others would be exchange synchronization. Otherwise I see no reason why would anybody buy it. And before new apps are done for it, iPhone will have new version, Android will be at 3.0 and another players may show up.

ozkaya said:
What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?
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Sorry guys, I couldn't help it

this forum gets dumber by the day.

I'll Stick with 6.5!
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...

scottmo said:
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...
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why would you like to stay with un supported version of os ,as wp7 arrives developers will stop developing for wm6.5

ardsar said:
How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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+1 -CLASS ACTION? That is so laughable! End these threads please it just annoying to guess at everything. Wait for the MIX '10 and listen to then as to what they want to say. Until then no more threads about WP7 upgrades on HD2...wahh.wahhh.wahhh...

There goes another 2 minutes of my life. When will I learn....

If Windows Mobile 7 Was Properly Ported Onto HTC HD2 Would It Be The Same As HTC HD7?

I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.
What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?
Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.
However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.
Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?
That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:
- Run as quick?
- Responsive, fast & smooth
- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2

I am sure sooner or later wp7 will be cracked and ported for HD2. So we will have the same device with HD7 except the looks. Also we have some more hard buttons as an extra

Its not the same.....
It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.
No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....
If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.

The fact that it is a user-made port, most likely running off SD card will mean it may be a little more sluggish than something designed natively for, and run natively on, a different device.
That's assuming the problems using Live services are overcome too

conantroutman said:
Its not the same.....
It might be a very similar spec but the actual components will differ.
No ported OS will ever run as smoothly as it would on its intended device....
If you want a dedicated WP7 then you'll have to get one not wait for a port.
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Doh that's what I thought!
Well I hope at least if a port does take place, it will perform almost as good as it does on the HD7, but we have to wait and see first when one is made and how it performs.

the camera is capable of 720p it lacks drivers

From my understanding as of right now. The phone will boot into WP7 but it will not have any live application functionality. Meaning the live hubs will not work so no it will not work just like a HD7.

I personally cannot understand the hardware choices they made for WP7. They are all the same spec as the HD2, and personally I'm not shelling out $500ish for the equivalent of a Software upgrade. I'd get all your use out of the HD2 first and wait for the next Hardware generation, unless WP7 really is a big deal for you.
Personally, as a big WinMob fan, I'm now running Android on my HD2, and worryingly I might not come back to MS. Android is exceeding all my expectations, and with no upgrade path to WP7, it's beginning to win my heart, despite my slight mistrust of Google.
If WP7 does come to HD2, the big problem now does appear to be the use of Live Services. Maybe Microsoft may soon relent and sell genuine Licence Keys (there's no sign of that - it's just my wish), but until then you'll probably be locked out of them.

I have had many phones: MDA, Wing, Omnia I900, Iphone 3G and now the HTC HD2. I have Android on my HD2 and use it all the time. Only reboot back into WM every so often.
Why would I or anyone else want WM7? I can make my phone look like WM7, an iPhone, etc. Do looks really matter? Every OS has it advantages and disadvantages.
Android apps are plentiful, cheap and very good. Does WM7 have as many apps?
Do I loose a little (whatever) using Android on my HD2? If I do I don't know what.
Should I buy a new Android phone? What would I gain?
Lets be realistic. The phone companies just love to put out new phones with minor tweeks so us 'suckers' keep them in business. Where does it end?
Personally I can see buying new, if there is that much more bang for the buck. Otherwise, get the value out of what you have. In IT what you buy today is always a day behind what comes out tomorrow.
JMHO!

i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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I accually hate WP7 interface and software. Really. This is my personal opinion.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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I couldn't agree with you more.

Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it ) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps . Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.
But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you

ike2903 said:
Cause of interest in wp7, I read many tests and user ratings and played with it a time. After all I would buy myself an iPhone( I hate it ) instead of any wp7 phones. Its the same rubbish like iOS but for iPhone you can get more funny and useless apps . Also if you like a fast and smooth UI, WM6.5 or Android would be a better choice. wp7 will not allow to be really individual with your phone...all phones are the same hardware in other shells with same unchangeable UI. There are many more disadvantages...you should may inform yourself one more time.
But when you already know all of this there is no chance to help you
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How are people saying WinMo and Android have faster smoother UI. That is false

Thanks everyone for your input, views and opinions.
As some have said, htc just want us to shell out another $500 just to get wm7 which may or may not be worth it since it does have the same hardware as the current htc hd2 and as it's new, there is a lot less software/apps & with regards to compatability, many existing apps for windows mobile 6.5 will not work with wm7.
Since this is the case, maybe there is no point in even upgrading to wm7 or buying a wm7 phone...
Anyway my other phone is the HTC Desire HD running android 2.2 froyo so I have the best of both.

well ! when phone 7 will be ported to HD2 microsoft will release wino 8 lol!

kanej2006 said:
I have had my HTC HD2 for around 5-6 months now. Though I'm happy with it and it has exceeded my expectations, I was thinking of upgrading it to WM7 when it's finally ported for the HD2.
What I would love to know is if the HD2 indeed had WM7 ported for it, would it run the SAME as it would on HTC HD7?
Reason I ask this is because I was planning on selling my HD2 and get the HD7.
However, both phones have the SAME screen size, same 1ghz processor, same ram & same 5mp camera, the HD7 only being 720p.
Why should I sell my old HD2 to buy the new one which is the SAME spec?
That is why I was asking if WM7 was ported onto the HD2, would it:
- Run as quick?
- Responsive, fast & smooth
- If it really will be ported, when can we expect the first rom or when should it be made for HD2
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First of all everything the hd7 has the hd2 has the only major change from the devices is that they added a kickstand.
I for one think that if the hd7 has same hardware as hd2 then running wp7 on hd2 shouldn't really be a difference. In a matter of fact the hd2 runs android well compared to other android devices that were made to run it.

OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.

anhyeuemmaimai said:
i am going to ask you why do you want wp7? it's a huge step backwards for users in several key areas and to regain some of that functionality, you need to do several hacks to get wp7 to do what WM 6.5 can already do with ease.
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Indeed. As a matter of fact, i just recently bought an HD2. not full price, less than 300 euros for a brand new unusued unscratched device with 1 y warranty.
I knew very well that W7 was coming out, even that the HD7 was soon to be out. But its the same phone. I like having extra buttons (hate 100% touch phones.. i like to press something when it becomes unresponsive ). I like Winmobile, even if people say its ****. I like my collection of CAB files.
I like HD2. I like 6.5.
i dont like the new presentation of the phone on W7.. plus the apps will be slow to launch etc etc. If u really wanna upgrade, do it in a years time, get ur phone 50% off

AinsCrowbar said:
OP, I think you should stay with the HD2. I'd rather have the ability to run four different operating systems (relatively well) than run a single system slightly better.
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That's VERY true. I have indeed tried android on the hd2, it was responsive, quick & reliable.
When you see android running for the first time on your hd2, you smile and think to yourself ''how cool'' I got android on a phone meant to run windows.
Anyway, I will keep my hd2 for now...

[Q]tMobile HD2 and Android and HD2

Okay so I was wondering if T-Mobile HD2 and Regular HD2 are any different?
Main concern is Android support, and installation of it in NAND instead of SD.
I am moving from my mytouch slide to something better so no idea.
Still reading more on hd2

HD2 and Android
I own an HD2(T-mobile USA). Running Android 2.2 works fin. About running directly from the main memory, I don't know but the HD2 is a great device. Search for Sergio76 on xda and you will find a lot of goodies

The hd2 runs android well, but battery life is not nearly as good as a native Android phone, as its just a port that we run on the hd2. If you're on a budget, the hd2 can make a great Android phone, but if you have the money to spend, and you only want to run Android, there are many other better native Android phones. Now if you like spending time tinkering with your phone and want to also run winmo and possibly wp7 in the future, and you don't mind spending a lot of time tweaking your phone to make it run the way you want, then the hd2 is a great phone. It all depends on what you're looking for in a phone.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I agree 100% with zarathustrax. If you are buying a new phone, I do not recommend the HD2.
It was the last big phone to come out with Windows Mobile (6.5), soon after Windows Phone (7) was rumored to be coming and obsoleted Windows Mobile entirely. It seems HTC thought they'd have a good year left and did not anticipate that the rumors themselves would be enough to turn folks off of Windows Mobile.
The Evo 4G for Sprint was released shortly after and was everything the HD2 should have been, including being a native Android phone. The only issue I have with the Evo is the fact that it's not a quad-band and is stuck to Sprint.
In order to get Android running on our phones, we have to use ROMs that are ripped from existing phones, such as the Nexus One, Evo or Desire Family. Since we are not using native drivers built for our phones, the system just isn't as smooth or effective as it should be.
While Android can compete with the iOS series, in order to do so effectively (IMHO), you need a front-facing camera. Video chat was never WinMo's strong point and thus HTC made the correct decision not to include it on the HD2.
I love my phone. I love tinkering with it several times a week. I love how fast and smooth it runs when I get it tweaked just right. I love being able to switch from WinMo to Android whenever I want. I love the way my phone looks and how I constantly get asked by total strangers what phone it is. I love the looks on other HD2 owners' faces when I pop out my Android HD2.
But in spite of all of that, as soon as T-Mobile has a decent Android competitor from HTC, I'll be jumping ship and moving to a real Android device.

What is your opinion about my mind & some Q

Hi!
i'll buy HD2, this is because experience WP7.
The reason for this strange thinking, was after the announcement of the partnership between Microsoft and Nokia.
I enjoy not wm and also stopped to buy Nokia phones, But what made me re-thinking is wonderful Nokia N900 running Maemo, After the powers given by Microsoft to Nokia, Imagine the improvements to the WP7.But my fear I do not like this system, so i'll try it in HD2. if i like it i will buy nokia's WP phone. if i don't i will sell it.
What do you think . Is my thinking correct ?
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Questions:
-Any problems with android and WP7 on HD2 ?
-There are two versions of HD2 European and U.S. & the second is better than the first in the rom and the ram. Do the European have a negative impact on WP7.
sry for my bad language

The only person who can take a final decision is you.
WP7 is a totally new approach, inspired by iOS, and not as open as Windows Mobile or Android.
In my personal opinion, HD2, as of today, is quite an economic way to go, you can actually run 3 platforms without big flaws: WinMo, WP7, and Android. None of those makes big problems, while WP7 feels as "native" on HD2 like on any "official" WP7 device.
If you are more into tweaking and modding, WinMo and Android will remain your favorites, maybe some other OS´s in the future, who knows. I own my HD2 since the day it was available in my country, never had any problems, and I flashed probably 50 or even more times. Currently, I run WP7 because I got tired of all the modding and tweaking, and I like the flawless operation of WP7. Sometimes I go back to my "fallback" WinMo ROM for eye candy.
If you´re not sure what to do, why don´t you try to get a hand on some devices to compare the platforms. Keep in mind that an HD2 runs several OS´s, that is definitely unique. It might be worth to give it a try if you´ve got the funds. And as soon as Nokia will be ready, the other manufacturers will have new generation devices on the market, too.

If you don't mind doing work then get HD2 and trust me when I say this Leo is the most versatile device in terms of development. I got Leo1024 months before it was officially out in TMoUS till the day was stolen not once I had issue. If you want to stick with WM6.5.X over WM7 you will be better of as base 29XXX super stable and fast. If you want Android then select nandroid over ram/sd version as it's more maintained. But in the end its all up to you as you have to understand Leo is 2years old device yet it still kicks punch as it made industry standard regardless of POS.Evo long before it was even stolen from us
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[Q] Are you planning on moving to WP7 as main OS?

Hi.
I really like WP7 and I think it fits our HD2's, yet WP7 is very immature.
For the people who are planning on moving to WP7 instead of Android, what is the milestone you are waiting for?
For the people who are not planning on moving, what are the main reasons?
Currently, I'm waiting for Mango final and a very specific application - Whatsapp.
I realize there are alternatives, but most of my friends with iOS and Android are using Whatsapp.
Anyways, its not Whatsapp as a single application, but a maturity of WP7 as an OS...
Are there any other crucial issues you think should be resolved before WP7 can be used as a main OS?

i think hd2 will get ports from future matured releases of WP7 (at least for some time).
since my hd2 is not just a phone, i am not willing to consider moving on to native WP7 devices. if i can go for multiple OSs and play with all of them, why on earth i'd limit myself to just one?
but, tmo, if u'r phone is just a phone to make calls or browse internet, native WP7 is the choice for u.
but for me.. NO. i think i'll keep my HD2
point is, i dont need to chose between WP7 and android. i can keep both.

HD2-WP7 said:
i think hd2 will get ports from future matured releases of WP7 (at least for some time).
since my hd2 is not just a phone, i am not willing to consider moving on to native WP7 devices. if i can go for multiple OSs and play with all of them, why on earth i'd limit myself to just one?
but, tmo, if u'r phone is just a phone to make calls or browse internet, native WP7 is the choice for u.
but for me.. NO. i think i'll keep my HD2
point is, i dont need to chose between WP7 and android. i can keep both.
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The OP didnt say anything about getting a native WP7 device, He was referring to using WP7 as main OS on your HD2.
@ OP
I'm contemplating keeping WP7 on my phone permanently since I can still play with Android on my Tab. I really like WP7, yes its not android (which is a great os) but its a great OS itself and runs really smooth.

I'm using WP7 on my HD2 and love it. I think WP7 is better than Android and the mature issue is getting less of an issue every day: apps are showing up every day.

is there contacts sync in wp7 sync from facebook and gmail

sagarchow said:
is there contacts sync in wp7 sync from facebook and gmail
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Yes, you can sync facebook, gmail and other sources.

It's the only os I use & only os I would use. Not a fan of Android, so that's not an alternative. WM was great for its time, but let's face it, that time is done. WP7 is the only os for me!
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App

TheATHEiST said:
The OP didnt say anything about getting a native WP7 device, He was referring to using WP7 as main OS on your HD2.
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u missed my point. so i try to be more clear now.
if i keep WP7, i can taste both (and more).

JonnieLasVegas said:
It's the only os I use & only os I would use. Not a fan of Android, so that's not an alternative. WM was great for its time, but let's face it, that time is done. WP7 is the only os for me!
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dont say that!!
WM may be the ugly sister that even her parents didnt want but its a beast of an OS, there is nothing and there is unlikely to ever be an OS that can do as much as WM can. yeah it looks crap, an runs crap, but it wins hands down in every other aspect. I'd love to dual boot WM and WP, but as it is Im running WP on my day to day device and WM on the backup device, WP is so much better with the UI it just makes using it plesant, I'll not be moving back but im also unlieky to ever trully leave WM either. Droid had a look in for 6 months before WP but got board with it.

Lol, I agree WM is a beast & very friendly to us super user types. Don't get me wrong I loved it when I used it. But now I'm completely hooked on WP. But when I get a native WP I'll switch my HD2 back to WM so I can tweak it again for fun. ^_^
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I really really want to move to WP7 as my main OS however my biggest tidbits need to be fixed before I will do such. Mainly, no customization of ringtones/alert sounds (without sideloading apps, etc.)
I don't know if they corrected this in Mango but when I add my 15 year old Live ID, it intergrates all my contacts from that ID into my contact list. Same with Facebook!
I was a die hard fan of WM and Android is ok but not where my heart is. WM had lots of raw power and after playing with WP, it is really something I can see myself using.

JonnieLasVegas said:
Lol, I agree WM is a beast & very friendly to us super user types. Don't get me wrong I loved it when I used it. But now I'm completely hooked on WP. But when I get a native WP I'll switch my HD2 back to WM so I can tweak it again for fun. ^_^
Sent from my HD2 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Not a bad idea that!
just need to wait for a worthwhile update to the HD2 then!
RJ45 said:
I really really want to move to WP7 as my main OS however my biggest tidbits need to be fixed before I will do such. Mainly, no customization of ringtones/alert sounds (without sideloading apps, etc.)
I don't know if they corrected this in Mango but when I add my 15 year old Live ID, it intergrates all my contacts from that ID into my contact list. Same with Facebook!
I was a die hard fan of WM and Android is ok but not where my heart is. WM had lots of raw power and after playing with WP, it is really something I can see myself using.
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Wow, you had a hotmail (HoTMaiL) account since before MS owned it, bet you there isnt many of us still kicking around! might i suggest trimming your contacts as if like mine, most of them no longer matter when going back to 1996
Facebook contacts can be removed if you dont already have that contact in you lists

I will stay definetly on WP7, I wanted to try Android, but then I heared that they are a lot of security vulnaribilities in the OS.
Aswell Apps in the Marketplace contain Malware, so I don't want to play roulette with my device...

Asking for live id and cant able so stuck back to android
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im new to this, and it's my first reply on this site. and sorry if its a late reply.
i am currently running MIUI android and i love it! it's perfect for my HD2 and i am having no problems.
a few times i have flashed WP7 with 'ok' roms (not perfect) and loved it - even though i couldn't get live services and market activated.
ALSO...in the process of switching between android and WP7, it has really messed up my SD cards - even when using different ones for each OS.
but just like you, i can't live without whatsapp as i use it everyday without fail. so does anybody know if it's going to be possible to get whatapp on wp7? and i m not really following wp7 on hd2 so what stage is it at now? like stable, lots of bugs, or is there a perfect build out there?

I'm watching how Mango goes before I make a final call. Some of the features I'm looking for are hidden SSID support, SMS/call backup&restore, wifi hotspot. I use those features a lot so if they're in Mango like I've heard they are then I'll probably switch my HD2 to being a WP7 device full-time.
I have a handful of apps that I bought in Android that it looks like I'd need to re-buy but it's not more than ~15 dollars (USD) worth so I'd be okay with it.

I would move to wp7, but no wlan hotspot, no using wifi android tablet.

When I get drunk, I pull out my blackberry and trying to do anything is just a mess.
When I pull out my WP7 it makes me so glad, honestly that I can use my phone when I am drunk.

I'm actually going to test out WP7 soon and Im really hoping that mango turns out to be a success

Yes. Tried iPhone. Tried Android. Tried WP7. WP7 is for me.
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