Rom battle - XPERIA X10 General

Hey,
Now we are getting one new ROM per week so what is your favorite one?
And why
Mine are sense and miui
Sense: nice look, stable (not much bugs)
Miui: nice look, funny to play around, nice animations, fast Rom (more bugs then sense)
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still loving zdzihu's 2.2 beta. super stable and apart from no camera have had no problems what so ever. been using since it came out (beta). love it

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still loving zdzihu's 2.2 beta. super stable and apart from no camera have had no problems what so ever. been using since it came out (beta). love it
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Agree with you.
Z's rom is almost flawless,just the probldm associated to few reboots and camere prevent the rom to become flawless for me
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Stock with Junk apps removed and Jit2 enabled. Solid as a rock.

zdz's rom for sure, I just hope the camera will be over soon.
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+1 to Z's awesome 2.2 beta. I use it as my main rom and apart from camera everything works flawlessly. I really hope Z will finish this one as I'd really like to have one fully working custom rom.

Eminence V1.2 + JIT V2 is the best for me.
Fast, nice looking and stable.

metcard said:
Stock with Junk apps removed and Jit2 enabled. Solid as a rock.
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+1
But that's because I had not time to try 2.2. Will do soon.

eminence v1.2

Perhaps start a poll?

2.2 rules. By Zi very fast and cool. The camera is coming. And remember screw SE. Z for president. Lol
sent from my droide 2.2. screw SE.

kx10 high performance
tried many but the most stable is this one
waitin for z's 2.2 rom wid camera

so many choices, to be able to vote, i need to have tried all those roms.

Been running z 's 2.2 since it came out love it fast stablish, odd reboot nothing major, don't use camera so not fused. Real nice Rom, saying that looking forward to j 's gingerbread to have a play, not into the sense or miui roms.
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Related

What ROM are you using right now?

What are you using, and your thoughts on the ROM itself...
Currently on MIUI v1.3.25 with Android Version 2.3.3. By far the best ROM ive used for android in a while.
cm7 Tons of features and I haven't noticed any bugs yet.
Using V2 fast mexdroid. Its the best rom out there. Try it out
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one5 said:
cm7 Tons of features and I haven't noticed any bugs yet.
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Same, very happy with it. OC @ 1.1ghz, runs great and better battery than stock.
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I'm using last miui 1.4.15(android 2.3.3) and I'm really satisfied with it. Good speed, perfect performance, no lags after full customization for my everyday use.
I also use the same rom on my htc hd2.
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Virtuous 2.0.2 using the advanced kernel overclocked at 1.3GHz. I love sense!
If you like stock look try xboarder56 my rom v1.9
Desire_S_G2_Port_Sense2.1_Gingerbread_2.3.3
On the Desire Z
Flawless.....
xboarder56 said:
If you like stock look try xboarder56 my rom v1.9
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Yes, try this ROM! In my opinion the best ROM without Sense. Fast, simple and so far no bugs with my Desire Z....
Thanks xboarder56
Using cm7 nightlies. Has not been a new one in about five days I'm getting real bored with it. Ultimate droid is the fastest and most stable out of any rom available. Its a shame this forum does not support it. Anyone interested in obtaining this rom just pm me it rocks. Its based on cm7 final and retains all the function of cm7 and adds a WHOLE lot more. Way less lag than cm7 also.
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Currently on MIUI v1.3.25 with Android Version 2.3.3. By far the best ROM ive used for android in a while.
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Me too, but the Ganii edition which is a little bit updated with more features. By far the best ROM out there with no problems l!
I was a hardcore cm7 fan, now converted to gani's latest miui bread. It just works....so....good. and its dead sexy...
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i'm actually using xboarder56's stock gingerbread rom. it works flawlessly and the battery life is great. plus with a custom theme on it, its just drop dead sexy
eViL's G2-4G, port of the MT4G rom.. to me its the best SENSE out there.
Ultimate droid 3.3.0
Best Rom I have run yet, coming from a loyal cm6, got bored waiting for cm7 bugs to get worked out. Love the work, I just couldn't take it anymore.
Ultimate droid like above said, is based on compiling a collection of the most popular features and is based on cm7.
Rock solid, fast, and never been happier.
My two cents
-Jon
Cm7 nightly 51, with gingerbread kernal from rom manager. Latest radio. And clocked to min: 768 max:998. On domand battery life fixed threw set cpu tweaks went from 5 hours of battery life to 24 hours of battery liife. Still testing tweaks.
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update for ud 3.3.0
after using superwipeG2+ and reflashing the ud 3.3.0 I ran into a weird spont power shut off on occasion. I reflashed the rom again, and now any of the few bugs that I had prior are resolved! I highly reccomend anyone having glitch's try this method.
superwipeG2+ then flash, then restore all with titanium backup, then reflash without any wipes.
This has made me so happy! I have a fully modded phone now with no problems for the first time in months!!!
meXdroidMod meXperia V2, loving this, very fast overclocked at 1.5GHz.
So far on this G2, I had enomthers The Official, CM 6.1.1 and now meXdroidMod
G2 meXdroidMod meXperia V2, OC'd 1.5GHz
Is there a sticky with all the places to download these ROMS?
In reading this thread, I realize that there are many more ROMS out there than I know about. So my question is there a sticky/FAQ that has a semi-up-to-date list of ROMS and where to go to download them (and maybe their support/info page)?
thanks,
-brad

MIUI, Cyanogen, or Sense ROMS??

which guys do you use and WHY?
i use Sense roms mainly for 1 reason...AUTO-FOCUS on VIDEO RECORDING...
i tried MIUI but uninstalled
tried CYANOGEN but eventually went back to SENSE roms.
as off 4/30 i am using MIUI_1.4.29_OsiMood v1.2 + WiFi Calling/ and i must say, i am kinda feeling the overall performance and ui. Might stick to this for a while.
Using CM7 because I've heard it's the quickest and with the best battery life. Never tried Sense outside of store demo's; while pretty I've heard it has lower battery life.
Never tried MIUI, though it looks interesting.
Which miui did you flash? The newer versions have wonderful ui, in my opinion xD ive never really stuck with sense just because there isn't much choice as far as customization goes. Ive run it for a few months though, and my battery life stayed the constant 12 hour drain cycle. Cyanogen is the g2's bread and butter, but UDroid is a good competitor for 2.3.3. Im using the sensation rom that rmk just ported. Just glitchy enough to be usable
It kinda depends on what you want in a rom. The best way to know what to flash is to try it out for yourself.
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ohshootrawr said:
Which miui did you flash? The newer versions have wonderful ui, in my opinion xD ive never really stuck with sense just because there isn't much choice as far as customization goes. Ive run it for a few months though, and my battery life stayed the constant 12 hour drain cycle. Cyanogen is the g2's bread and butter, but UDroid is a good competitor for 2.3.3. Im using the sensation rom that rmk just ported. Just glitchy enough to be usable
It kinda depends on what you want in a rom. The best way to know what to flash is to try it out for yourself.
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Which miui rom are u using?
im currently using MIUI_1.4.29_OsiMood v1.2 + WiFi Calling
but found that alarm clock would force close and alot of other apps would force close.
never tried miui, but have tried a sense rom, and immediately went back to CM7. even with CM problems at times, it has been the best overall. I did not like sense at all. Sense tho does have some nice widgets and i would like to have some of them on CM7. beyond that, ill stick with CM7, my phone only started acting out when i changed from CM to other roms so ill be staying with CM7 period. my phone had no problems until i changed to another rom. so i guess im more scared to try other roms now lol
Am for MIUI all the way... It's just a personal like thing you know.
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MIUI is kinda laggy, i love the newly leaked rom fro tmobile, but somehow it won't recognize my router so i can't use wifi at home. so at this moment i will stick with cm7
Well, i like Sense rom as it link my FB,Twitter & contact with great Clock/Weather/Friendstream Widget. It's free (unlike Launcher Pro that u need to pay). once got the OC kernel, my Desire Z is superb!
Cyanogen doesnt have autofocus on picture/video?
I strangely doubt that and even if it doesnt, there is problably a alternative.
bstylz911 said:
Which miui rom are u using?
im currently using MIUI_1.4.29_OsiMood v1.2 + WiFi Calling
but found that alarm clock would force close and alot of other apps would force close.
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Don't ever use another miui that isn't from ganii. His rom's are always more stable for some reason. He just released his version of .29, you might wanna use that instead.
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Dante_Lv said:
MIUI is kinda laggy, i love the newly leaked rom fro tmobile, but somehow it won't recognize my router so i can't use wifi at home. so at this moment i will stick with cm7
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Odd... I never get lag
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ohshootrawr said:
Don't ever use another miui that isn't from ganii. His rom's are always more stable for some reason. He just released his version of .29, you might wanna use that instead.
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I think that's your personal opinion... I dont use Ganii Miui rom. I have nothing against Ganii I think his a great dev.
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I say cm7 is the best. But it all comes down to what u like personally. My girl has virtuous and thats a hell of a good rom too. I might try the new miui soon.
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I think that's your personal opinion... I dont use Ganii Miui rom. I have nothing against Ganii I think his a great dev.
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agreed... shouldn't really hate on other devs miui's. they both work great and ive had no issues with either.. i use both depending on what i feel like updating to..
im currently running ganii 4.22.. i don't wanna update and have no reason to latest build of miui.. change log doesn't interest me, and i don't wanna have my theme uncompatable or lose trackpad wake.
and miui has never lagged for me, and shown better battery life than cm7, cm7 kinda gets "boring" after a while.. just personal opinion thou.. i like it, but i like the customization of miui better. plus its alot easier to change themes.
idc for sense.. i havent used it for a while, but i always had some lag issues although im sure they are fixed now, and customization was minimal.. besides there sense layouts..
umm I'm on UD ROM 3.3.0 and i can truly say im pleased with my G2 at the moment, but I've always wanted to try a Miui Rom, but i don't know where to find it? can anyone provide some links and tuts?
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umm I'm on UD ROM 3.3.0 and i can truly say im pleased with my G2 at the moment, but I've always wanted to try a Miui Rom, but i don't know where to find it? can anyone provide some links and tuts?
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MiUI Rom
Please check out that link!!
After trying numerous versions of all three, I usually stick with a custom version of CM7 or Stock GB roms. MIUI, while pretty, just doesn't do it for me. I don't like the layout. Sense is nice, but once again, I don't like how it is setup.
Ever since I flashed OsiMood MIUI, I've never looked back. I've tried CM, Ultimate Droid and MIUI and the latter just has everything that I want in my phone. I've only tried Sense on somebody elses phone but didn't like it one bit.
MIUI is not only visually stimulating, but also has a great UI and is very easy to theme. Everything about it is just great and I would recommend it before any other ROM.
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Ever since I tried MIUI OsiMood 1.06.03 I never seen anything so good. I am comfortable with the iPhone UI and the fast blazing feel. However the battery life is a little off, so you might need to download "JuiceDefender" but everything else the keep improving so no need to worry, the battery life gets better and better every update. You guys should give it a spin. This rom is amazing!!!
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i use Sense ... Widgets.

Suggestions for a solid/stable ROM -> So many to choose from

Hey xda,
I just got a HTC G2, straight of ebay. I'll be following the tutorials posted to perma-root, CID unlock and S-off (not using visionary).
My only question and concern is, just because I am new to this phone, apart from CM being at the top, what other roms are stable? fast? and reliable? (decent battery life, not too many fc's etc)
I'm very much interested in something with HTC Sense, but meh, am willing to compromise if its too buggy. I've been reading here and there that there are tons of problems with scaling etc when phones switches from portrait/landscape etc.
Any suggestions will be great! Thank you for reading this far!!
Sorry, but you're going to have to do what everyone else does. Try them out and decide for yourself.
Hello and welcome!
My suggestions:
If you want sense, look up Virtuous 1.0.2 for froyo. If you want sense 3.0, look up Virtuous Fusion 1.0.0.
If you want stock android, look up Virtuous G-lite 1.0.2.
All of the above ROMs are by the same dev, are very stable and I have used all of the above. Currently using G-lite because as much as I love sense, it does take alot of memory.
As posted before, try the ROMs for about a week each and see how you like them. It's all personal preference.
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insertcoin is a nice mix between sense 2.1 and 3.0
Athrun88 said:
Hello and welcome!
My suggestions:
If you want sense, look up Virtuous 1.0.2 for froyo. If you want sense 3.0, look up Virtuous Fusion 1.0.0.
If you want stock android, look up Virtuous G-lite 1.0.2.
All of the above ROMs are by the same dev, are very stable and I have used all of the above. Currently using G-lite because as much as I love sense, it does take alot of memory.
As posted before, try the ROMs for about a week each and see how you like them. It's all personal preference.
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I couldn't agree more; as far as ROMs go, rmk's are the most stable. CyanogenMod7 is actually extremely buggy still on the G2 (at least, when I used it a few weeks ago). While CM7 is probably the fastest ROM I've used, there are lots of little things that don't work correctly, and newer builds sometimes will break things that worked on older builds. I'm currently running G-Lite and I'm extremely satisfied.
My fav is mexdroid there new V3 been running good for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
[ROM][05/21/11] meXdroidMod meXperia G2/DZ (V3)
G2 Running meXdroidMod meXperia V3
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My fav is mexdroid there new V3 been running good for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
[ROM][05/21/11] meXdroidMod meXperia G2/DZ (V3)
G2 Running meXdroidMod meXperia V3
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+1 to that! It's colorful, fast, and siiiiicccckkk. Happy flashing
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Cm6.1.1 is nice and stable with decent battery life. It isn't as aesthetically pleasing as the myriad gingerbread releases but it gets the job done and can be tweaked to appear incredibly 'speedy' by using spare parts from the app market and Launcher Pro.
Ill throw my vote in there for Pyrorom. Its fast and is based off of CM7 if I remember correctly. I had tried a few, but as soon as I booted Pyro, I knew it was the one.
Good luck anyways.
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virtuous g-lite is faster than cyanogenmod... check it out.
Try a stock rom! Or dive in and before you know it you will be flashing new roms every other day.
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fwiw I have yet to find another ROM as stable as GingerVillain 1.5 with the 4.02.17 radio. Everything works perfect and I can get 18 hours battery life.
Tried Glite 1.02, super smooth, great ROM with the 4.30 radio BUT could not get the bluetooth to pair. Plus a few minor quirks with the camera flash not working. This is mostly due to the hw differences between the G2 and desire Z. I have a bell Can Desire Z
if u don't want sense...
If you have a G2, go for Glite 1.02 otherwise GV 1.5 is stable and can't be beat ..yet imo
Cm7 has been the only rom I stayed with. I tried sense roms and wanted to pull NY hair out, I simply just cannot stand sense.
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Techngro said:
Ill throw my vote in there for Pyrorom. Its fast and is based off of CM7 if I remember correctly. I had tried a few, but as soon as I booted Pyro, I knew it was the one.
Good luck anyways.
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I 2ND that.. pyromod 2.0 is the best... no force closes and faster than a Russian prostitute just check out the video for the rom. I've been on it forever (currently awaiting 3.0 which supposedly drops tonight/soon)
* I'm just sayin......
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+1 to that! It's colorful, fast, and siiiiicccckkk. Happy flashing
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I 2nd meXdroidmod. This rom is fast and stable. By far my favorite.
If you're looking for a sense rom, I'd recommend insertcoin.
I'd also recommend trying out Miui and vanilla based Roms
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AwwwwYeaaaaa, You guys are the best!!!
at the moment, my phone is stuck in customs... been there for 10 days now... gah, cant wait to get it!
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Sorry, but you're going to have to do what everyone else does. Try them out and decide for yourself.
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In time, yep, will be flashing around here and there and i'll know for myself. I just wanted to know which ones are the best to start of with. I remember when i got my Milestone, man, i flashed all the bad roms first, had soo many problems.
Especially when ROM threads exceed 50 pages, Yikes!! Takes forever to go through them.
Thanks though!
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Ill throw my vote in there for Pyrorom. Its fast and is based off of CM7 if I remember correctly. I had tried a few, but as soon as I booted Pyro, I knew it was the one.
Good luck anyways.
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I saw the video review of it on Youtube and it looks solid! Thank you!

Stable ROM

What's the most stable ROM I can use for my Incredible, I am running nils buisness 2.2 but it isn't working out for me, can you provide a link for a stable ROM, preferrably sense 3.0 thanks
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There is another thread about 12 posts down with the same exact name. Most likely if 2.1 isnt workimg for you, neithrr will 3.0
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The one that has worked best for me is the Community Rom. I wish it came with the old lock screen as an option though. Thats my only prob with it.. other than that, it's been the most stable of all that i've tried!
The most stable ROM is FROYO stock. But that's probably not what you were looking for.
-xdadevelopers-user
Nils 3.0 v2.2 (or 2.1 or whatever version I'm on) is working extremely well for me, I think the bigger question is what about it isn't working for you?
The most stable rom you can use is decks aosp which is built to 2.3.5
No froyo space issues...or lag from the newer sense ports.
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The most stable rom you can use is decks aosp which is built is built to 2.3.5
No froyo space issues...or lag from the newer sense ports.
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You haven't tried the new desire HD 3.0 roms. There is absolutely zero lag and it honestly runs almost as good as the OTA.
If I've helped you, hit the thanks button!
I actually have tried newts new one. I had phantom call issues.
I am not sure how you would know what Roms I have tried.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
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Yes I agree I found a great Rom which is ace revolution 3d, I havnt tried the other devs version of their desire port, but if you have flashed all the diff devs ports, id like to know which is your favorite, I'm just not dissappointed at all with ace rev 3d ROM
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I use to use incredibly re-Engineered for a long time, super stable.
my Dinc
Stable rom
[ROM][MikRoms] Desired Inc HD 3D Vthree [Updated:16Sep2011]
This is the most stable ROM I've found so far.
I'm a big fan of Jermaine's I'm a big fan of Jermaine's In-Sensitive Minimalist ROM. It has by far been the most stable ROM I have used. If you're looking for Sense 3.0 he has a Dee-Zire ROM that is AOSP/Sense 3.0.
I haven't personally tried it, but if it's anything like his other work I'm sure it's top notch.
kozmo198 said:
What's the most stable ROM I can use for my Incredible, I am running nils buisness 2.2 but it isn't working out for me, can you provide a link for a stable ROM, preferrably sense 3.0 thanks
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Well a suggestion for sense 3.0 is kingdom stock ginger sense 3.0 it was last updated in June but I've ran it and it's a nice rom though if everything force closes do a factory reset
Desire HD vfive
Try that one is most stable by wildstang
the video recording is choppy for now though but is stable and is sense 3.0
I'm running McSense and everything is stable and fast, but it seems to be taking longer to charge the phone.
No complaints other than that!
For the most stability I'd recommend something close to the stock GB that was recently released, with some enhancements. Two ROMs that stick out in my mind are jermaine's stock+ and mcd's mcsense. Both devs have senseless versions as well which are just as stable.
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For the most stability I'd recommend something close to the stock GB that was recently released, with some enhancements. Two ROMs that stick out in my mind are jermaine's stock+ and mcd's mcsense. Both devs have senseless versions as well which are just as stable.
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+1 Jermaine has the most stable ROMs as they are the closest to stock. I personally drive IM 2.3.1 and love it. He stopped his Sense 3.0 ROM in beta for not living up to his standards. You can trust his development to be 100% stable.
I'm running the 666th Sense ROM and loving it. It's the stock framework with some awesomely twisted tweaks, and with tiny's kernel the battery is running better than ever. I've lurked here for forever and have learned a lot - figured I'd throw in my $.02 for whatever it's worth.
Good luck in finding something you love.

Installing ICS on Incredible... Deck

Installing, and running, ICS on Incredible, check it out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltl3e6Y0sj4&list=PLC5077D28D8B29BE3&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Drum n Bass ftw.
10chars.
Great video. I installed this ICS on my Incredible and it runs smooth.
Thank you, thank you..
I was wanting to test out the cam quality, so i did an update to ics for everyone.. :]
Yeah, Ics runs awesome on this thing... I was shocked at how smooth it runs, yet intrigued at how heavy the os really is under the hood..
There are definitely a lot of great features.
We've got some thanking to do for all the Devs and modders who are involved.
I've been running this for a few days now - runs great. A wallpaper hack would be nice, but that's just being picky hah.
Even though it's in Alpha, it still runs like a dream. It's been my daily for a week without issue.
Evervolv ICS rom preview 5 is the most complete and stable ICS rom availale imo.
Is that here on xda? Link plz
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TimelesslyPrecise said:
Is that here on xda? Link plz
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Here is the link to the twitter page with the new build for the Dinc.
http://twitter.com/#!/MongooseHelix
It is now Preview 6.
ICS
I was having major gallery isues with mine, if I selected a photo to upload to facebook, the phone would restart, other then that it worked great...
Thanks Ralph
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I posts all updates on rootzwiki. In my post i have links to gapps, preview 6 and the latest incredikernel
apophis9283 said:
Evervolv ICS rom preview 5 is the most complete and stable ICS rom availale imo.
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+1 for Evervolv ICS p5. With the latest ICS Incredikernel, it's tough to beat.
looking good, I just flashed over kushdeck's alpha 5 and its running damn smooth.
Can anyone link to all the ICS ROM's currently out? I'm trying to get a better list of ROM's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
XDA links preferred, but if they're only listed on other sites then list 'em anyway
thanks to anyone who helps
Best one imo is evervolv p7 go to rootzwiki i have links there
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Best one imo is evervolv p7 go to rootzwiki i have links there
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Why don't you start a new thread here to keep updated?
I loved ICS but it was a few unstable things like video camera and random force closes that sent me back to gingerbread
amamdani15 said:
I loved ICS but it was a few unstable things like video camera and random force closes that sent me back to gingerbread
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Completely agree with you on that one. I can wait until something solid comes out, and believe me, I'm on here every day to be one of the first on the jump.
thanks for the video.

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