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Hey guys any of you running set cpu? i have a profile set so that when i turn the screen off it drops the cpu down to 250mhz. I'm having a issue where sometimes it dosen't wake back up. Anyone else had this happen?
I noticed this Tuesday. They don't play nice together...yet. setcpu needs info about the hummingbird cpu in order for it to work. Setcpu's dev will most likely have an update for this soon. For now, i'd uninstall it and keep an eye out on the program for an update.
sweet glad to know that its not just me.
I had this same problem with the Overclock Widget for the same purpose (shut down CPU while screen sleeps)... After removing Overclock... I have yet to have a blank screen situation.
I've got mine (SetCpu) set to the "on-demand" preset. Have not had a wake up issue yet...
SetCpu seems to be quite different on the Epic than on the EVO. More presets and options....
madocs said:
I've got mine (SetCpu) set to the "on-demand" preset. Have not had a wake up issue yet...
SetCpu seems to be quite different on the Epic than on the EVO. More presets and options....
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Scratch that - this morning the EPIC didn't wake. Battery out, back in, screen off, didn't wake.
Uninstalled SetCpu, all is back to normal (except for the crap battery life of course).
Emailed the SetCpu dev, he thinks it is related to the kernel. I'll try out a custom ROM/kernel as soon as one is ready to see if it resolves the issue.
I'm not having any issues with my epic and setcpu, right now the screen off profile is: 200Mhz, ondemand, & priority @ 100.
In the Vibrant forum there are numerous threads in which the OPs screwed up their phones using setCPU. I'd stay away from apps like setcpu, juice defender, task killers, etc.
Chalup said:
In the Vibrant forum there are numerous threads in which the OPs screwed up their phones using setCPU. I'd stay away from apps like setcpu, juice defender, task killers, etc.
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i agree with staying away from set cpu but juice defender and task killer are essential to me getting decent battery life on my epic lol
vavaud said:
I'm not having any issues with my epic and setcpu, right now the screen off profile is: 200Mhz, ondemand, & priority @ 100.
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How long have you had it in use? I was cool for a day, then it wouldn't wake up.
From the dev: "The scaling is the issue, I think. Ondemand crashes the Galaxy S, but conservative doesn't seem to."
I'm ready to hit some customs, battery life just isn't good enough so far.
2.0t03speed said:
i agree with staying away from set cpu but juice defender and task killer are essential to me getting decent battery life on my epic lol
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I've had good results with the conservative setting of SetCpu. With ATK and SetCpu, I had double the prior norm in battery life. Over past 2 days I've gotten over 12 hours and I plugged in before full drain both days. Started at 6:30 this morning, should get a good read on potential. Expecting 15+ which would officially resolve my battery issues.
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I've had good results with the conservative setting of SetCpu. With ATK and SetCpu, I had double the prior norm in battery life. Over past 2 days I've gotten over 12 hours and I plugged in before full drain both days. Started at 6:30 this morning, should get a good read on potential. Expecting 15+ which would officially resolve my battery issues.
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I was using conservative on set cpu when i got the lockup
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I have been using setCPU and ATK since 9/2 with no problems so far. I have it set on conservative and 200 when screen is off. I been getting around 10-12 hours with moderate uses. With little use today I am at 9 hours with 50% battery left.
madocs said:
I've had good results with the conservative setting of SetCpu. With ATK and SetCpu, I had double the prior norm in battery life. Over past 2 days I've gotten over 12 hours and I plugged in before full drain both days. Started at 6:30 this morning, should get a good read on potential. Expecting 15+ which would officially resolve my battery issues.
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I ended up at with over 15 hours logged and ~15-20% battery remaining last night. Good enough for me. Bluetooth/GPS/Wifi on all day, 4G off, screen turned down, ATK.
No Problem with CPU Set at 200
I kept having the same issue until I changed the lower limit to 200 and used Conservative setting.
Now, no problem at all!
I think I tend to agree with you.... I tried running the phoenix kernel on my epic, and the phone would not wake up (was told it was because phoenix defaults to 100/1000) and was told to use setcpu.. tried it... wow... what a disappointment.. setcpu kept giving me way different readings everytime I ran it.... not nice at all....
I've since tried this again, this time, placing setcpu.txt on my /sdcard will see if this helps..... so far, so good......
I have a screen off profile set for 400mhz max 200mhz min with conservative governor. My main profile is 1200mhz max and 200mhz min. This is with the mixup kernel and I never have any lock up issues
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i have my min at 200 for all of my profiles. My screen max is 400 and it keeps my phone from waking up. It's set to conservative. I'm also using it with juice defender, so i'm not sure if that's the culprit or what. Does anyone else have any suggestions on settings for screen off?
What is this nonsense people are saying about 4 or 5 hours with screen on and their phone is still at 20%? GTFO.... Usually I would say about 3 hours of screen on and i'm dead. I can get like 18 hrs or so lightly, and by lightly, I mean only using it for a few text and check email, maybe some fb just to check inbox and such, lightly, using the phone (with my reception).
I know the Fascinate is better hardware, and I switched for the GPU among other reasons (2 of em for free...=P) but, on my nexus, I still find that the interactive governor ramped up to the max freq. (1113Mhz) less. Of course, I am using the 1150 nonvoodoo from geeknik, but I doubt I will make it 4 or 5 hours of screen on time.w
How can you use the phone, with the screen on, and not do anything that uses the battery. I mean, without cyanogen, it was cool that I can make it through my day, easy, close to out of box (getting to superclean dj05 is about 100 less flashes that I made it through with the n1/sense/cyan nightlys/test roms/etc.).
But now I want more, the price I have to pay I guess for the .3 inches of gained screen is not using the phone heavily in order to save battery!? That sucks. I used to hammer my iPhone and I rarely made it through the day, but I hammered it with atleast 4 or 5 hrs of screen on time sometimes, and it would make it atleast 8 hours... that thing would idle wayyyy better on GSM Edge than CDMA I guess, as with my T-Mobile N1, it idled wayy better, than this CDMA phone. Is there a way to put it on 1x instead of having it always on 3g? There isnt a setting to uncheck, and you cant get in *#*#4636#*#* on CDMA. I tried that immediately after unboxing to get off 3g when I wasnt using net apps, and usually that gave better signal on GSM, saving battery.
Check out my interactive battery test on my N1 that I did, the interactive setting eventually fell out of favor because it ramps up to the max... instead of ramping up accordingly like OnDemand, and not too slowly like Conservative. Again, why does Fascinate use conservative?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7370179 thats my Interactive Governor Battery Test on my N1 I did in the summer time...
I just wanted to start this thread so we can get a consensus on what works best, and for charging this battery. I used to charge my N1 an extra 1.5 hrs with it off after android says it was at 100. That way it idled on 100 instead of immediate drain. An extra 3 or so hours of battery life if you use it right.
CPU governors control exactly how the CPU scales between your "max" and "min" set frequencies. Most kernels have "ondemand" and "performance." The availability
********I want to be able to choose between ondemand and powersave when my battery gets low. On this phone, as I did with the N1.
ondemand - Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
conservative - Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
performance - Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking.
powersave - Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times.
userspace- A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
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What is this nonsense people are saying about 4 or 5 hours with screen on and their phone is still at 20%? GTFO.... Usually I would say about 3 hours of screen on and i'm dead. I can get like 18 hrs or so lightly, and by lightly, I mean only using it for a few text and check email, maybe some fb just to check inbox and such, lightly, using the phone (with my reception).
I know the Fascinate is better hardware, and I switched for the GPU among other reasons (2 of em for free...=P) but, on my nexus, I still find that the interactive governor ramped up to the max freq. (1113Mhz) less. Of course, I am using the 1150 nonvoodoo from geeknik, but I doubt I will make it 4 or 5 hours of screen on time.w
How can you use the phone, with the screen on, and not do anything that uses the battery. I mean, without cyanogen, it was cool that I can make it through my day, easy, close to out of box (getting to superclean dj05 is about 100 less flashes that I made it through with the n1/sense/cyan nightlys/test roms/etc.).
But now I want more, the price I have to pay I guess for the .3 inches of gained screen is not using the phone heavily in order to save battery!? That sucks. I used to hammer my iPhone and I rarely made it through the day, but I hammered it with atleast 4 or 5 hrs of screen on time sometimes, and it would make it atleast 8 hours... that thing would idle wayyyy better on GSM Edge than CDMA I guess, as with my T-Mobile N1, it idled wayy better, than this CDMA phone. Is there a way to put it on 1x instead of having it always on 3g? There isnt a setting to uncheck, and you cant get in *#*#4636#*#* on CDMA. I tried that immediately after unboxing to get off 3g when I wasnt using net apps, and usually that gave better signal on GSM, saving battery.
Check out my interactive battery test on my N1 that I did, the interactive setting eventually fell out of favor because it ramps up to the max... instead of ramping up accordingly like OnDemand, and not too slowly like Conservative. Again, why does Fascinate use conservative?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7370179 thats my Interactive Governor Battery Test on my N1 I did in the summer time...
I just wanted to start this thread so we can get a consensus on what works best, and for charging this battery. I used to charge my N1 an extra 1.5 hrs with it off after android says it was at 100. That way it idled on 100 instead of immediate drain. An extra 3 or so hours of battery life if you use it right.
CPU governors control exactly how the CPU scales between your "max" and "min" set frequencies. Most kernels have "ondemand" and "performance." The availability
********I want to be able to choose between ondemand and powersave when my battery gets low. On this phone, as I did with the N1.
ondemand - Available in most kernels, and the default governor in most kernels. When the CPU load reaches a certain point (see "up threshold" in Advanced Settings), ondemand will rapidly scale the CPU up to meet demand, then gradually scale the CPU down when it isn't needed.
conservative - Available in some kernels. It is similar to the ondemand governor, but will scale the CPU up more gradually to better fit demand. Conservative provides a less responsive experience than ondemand, but can save battery.
performance - Available in most kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "max" set value at all times. This is a bit more efficient than simply setting "max" and "min" to the same value and using ondemand because the system will not waste resources scanning for the CPU load. This governor is recommended for stable benchmarking.
powersave - Available in some kernels. It will keep the CPU running at the "min" set value at all times.
userspace- A method for controlling the CPU speed that isn't currently used by SetCPU. For best results, do not use the userspace governor.
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Thank Samsung for breaking ondemand on every sgs phone.
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Well what else can you contribute to this thread? Thanks for letting me know that the ondemand is just broken on galaxy s phones. So basically its interactive ... or laggy UI experience. And if you've never used a ondemand kernel, you wouldn't notice the difference but i certainly do. It just takes too long sometimes for it to wake and other things. I have my screen off at 400 mhz but still that is higher than the 256 i was using on the nexus one and it used to wake immediately.
I was reading today and I found that ondemand is pretty much the way to go so i wonder if we could bounty up enough would somebody unbreak it...
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Well what else can you contribute to this thread? Thanks for letting me know that the ondemand is just broken on galaxy s phones. So basically its interactive ... or laggy UI experience. And if you've never used a ondemand kernel, you wouldn't notice the difference but i certainly do. It just takes too long sometimes for it to wake and other things. I have my screen off at 400 mhz but still that is higher than the 256 i was using on the nexus one and it used to wake immediately.
I was reading today and I found that ondemand is pretty much the way to go so i wonder if we could bounty up enough would somebody unbreak it...
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You are doing something wrong. Conservative is not choppy on my device and the CPU will always ramp up faster than a human being can judge the response time.
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My phone makes it the entire day with heavy use, this means about 20 - 10 min phone calls one or two lasting 30 min, texting my wife all day at work, checking emails, and angry birds for at least 1 hour a day i love that game but I suck at it lol. Something that I found is that the phone will last almost an hour of being on the phone after it hits 0%. In my pocket it lasted 4 hours at 0% the day before yesterday. I thought maybe this is on purpose so you have more then enough time to make it to a charger. When I first downloaded angry birds I played it for three hours straight with the screen at full brightness (i always keep it at full brightness, looks prettier that way) I know it was three hourse because it was while i was waiting at the hospital I got there a little before 7 and wasnt called until 10. Overall I am very pleased with the battery life of this phone not so much with other aspects but battery life and lag never came into my mind as a complaint for this phone, except with all the stock touchwiz stuff.
As adrynalyne said, CPU's scaling changes faster than human's perception. It's your phone or setting that's having an issue.
4 hours at 0%?
The little graphic samsung gives you in the stock battery is misleading.
In my brief experience with it, I got the following impression.
full battery graphic: you have between 100% and 75% left.
<full battery: 75%-50%
Half battery: 50%-25%
low battery: 25%-15%
empty: 15%-0%
This may not be quite right, but you get the idea. It has been a while, but stock battery is pretty misleading. Samsung reports [more than] half empty [always] as being half full!
Want a more trailer indicator? You can get an accurate battery mod (via a theme for instance) or you can download an app to check current battery % left (i use osmanager - do not leave this app running in the background! )
Assuming your phone lasts 27 hours or so unplugged with no use at all, I would say 4 hours at "zero" battery makes sense.
For my phone, the display uses an average of 3.5x as much power as the rest of its functionality (total of 1/4.5x lifespan in active use vs. pocket)
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
I meant "reliable" not trailer.
I get about 5 hours of screen time with little voice calls on wifi.
I don't know if I am just one of the lucky ones but my phone gets between 30 and 36 hours on a single charge, having even made it to 44 hours on a very rare occasion and that's without setcpu profiles even set.
Wtf... my phone is brand spanking new and I get about 4ish hours of screen time on a full charge, with the lowest brightness + screen filter app set at 50.6% reduced light. I get like 3 hours without screen filter on.... wtf. This is running on conservative or interactive the whole time..... wtf!!! With wifi on and 0 extra screens or Widgets using launcher pro without animations... wtf!!!
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+1... stock battery indicator is not accurate. Get the accurate battery mod.
soba49 said:
4 hours at 0%?
The little graphic samsung gives you in the stock battery is misleading.
In my brief experience with it, I got the following impression.
full battery graphic: you have between 100% and 75% left.
<full battery: 75%-50%
Half battery: 50%-25%
low battery: 25%-15%
empty: 15%-0%
This may not be quite right, but you get the idea. It has been a while, but stock battery is pretty misleading. Samsung reports [more than] half empty [always] as being half full!
Want a more trailer indicator? You can get an accurate battery mod (via a theme for instance) or you can download an app to check current battery % left (i use osmanager - do not leave this app running in the background! )
Assuming your phone lasts 27 hours or so unplugged with no use at all, I would say 4 hours at "zero" battery makes sense.
For my phone, the display uses an average of 3.5x as much power as the rest of its functionality (total of 1/4.5x lifespan in active use vs. pocket)
Swyped w/ XDA App. When in doubt, mumble.
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Terror_1 said:
I don't know if I am just one of the lucky ones but my phone gets between 30 and 36 hours on a single charge...
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That's because you don't use your phone.
Go play NFS for 3 hours and get back to us.
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...screen filter app set at 50.6% reduced light. I get like 3 hours without screen filter on...conservative or interactive the whole time...
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What's the screen filter app? Conservative and interactive? That's SetCPU?
I wouldn't worry about these guys coming in here saying they're getting 2 days of use either. They're not using the phone anywhere near as much as you. I've had 3 of these things and know 2 guys with them. They all got the same battery life. You don't see anyone posting any screenshots, do you?
Me and my gfs fascinate gets about same battery life in our apt and hers is still DI01 and i'm on DJ05... she has jts 11/16 kernel and i have the 12/21 voodoo5 and we get about the same battery life... dependent on how much we use the phone. .... so just use your phone, and charge it as necessary... its better for the type of battery we use anyways in our phones... **************************************************************************************closed.**************************************************************************************
Hey there, I just a few days ago rooted and flashed the Syndicate Frozen rom and am not getting such good battery life...
I was wondering how big of a difference SetCpu makes on battery life/performance in general? With moderate/heavy use (internet browsing, facebook, email, txt messaging) how much should it improve battery life? am getting around 10hours at the moment with moderately light use... Is there any free alternative app that runs comparatively well?
I guess what I'm really asking is: is it worth it to buy setcpu, and will it make a dramatic difference on my battery life? This Rom is supposed to improve battery life, and I think I read is overclocked to 1.2... Will setcpu let me set this underclocked to 1,0 and then like 800 with screen off, 600 idle? Am new to the android thing [have had my EPIC only around 2 weeks today]
Thanks for any help!
Overclock widget does pretty much the same thing, and you're going to want to set something like
20mhz min 1 or 1.2ghz max
Then 100mhz min 400mhz max for screen off.
You can set the speed to.anything you want. If you want battery to be the best then.set it to 100/1000 on demand. If you emwant performance then 100/1200. Also I don't set profiles cause I was reading somewhere that they aren't good to use on any galaxy phone.
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http://www.setcpu.com/
Nice info read up on it and yes you can set it anyway you want like stated above. I bought mine from the market to support the dev for the hard work involved in making setcpu, dont know if you know but it is free for xda members just search for setcpu. It is only $2.00 well worth the price so please support the dev if you can.
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Overclock widget does pretty much the same thing, and you're going to want to set something like
20mhz min 1 or 1.2ghz max
Then 100mhz min 400mhz max for screen off.
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20Mhz would freeze the phone. :O
I personally like running it @ 100 Mhz when screen is off and 1Ghz when screen is on.
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20Mhz would freeze the phone. :O.......
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I am pretty sure XOBX meant 200, cause your right 20 is pretty much crawling...
Yep, I meant 200, the damn autocorrect kept changing mhz to Hz and I must've clicked backspace one too many times.
Thanks, so it would make a big difference in battery life?
Sent from my EPIC 4G FROZEN and Syndicated
androikid said:
Thanks, so it would make a big difference in battery life?
Sent from my EPIC 4G FROZEN and Syndicated
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Don't expect it to magically give you another 4 hours up time. 1 extra hour would be high hopes.
I use SetCPU with the CPU set to 200/1000 and ondemand, and the battery life has improved GREATLY, well worth the $2 to support the Dev, IMO, even though XDA members get it free.
I've abandoned SetCPU and uninstalled it. Unnecessary consumption of system resources.
Same with any other user-space app/widget to control CPU speed scaling.
In the Bonsai ROM, the exact same capability, sans the profiles which I (and most people) don't use anyway, can be achieved by setting clock range and governor in /etc/init.d/24-cpufreq script. I expect that all the other OC kernels, if not every custom kernel, has a similar way to set CPU clock governor.
I have mine set to 100/1200 on demand, and it works well for the demands I put on it. Way low consumption at idle, but when I need something it instantly responds.
I routinely get 16-18 hours off the charger, and put it back on the charger with sometimes as much as 40% remaining, but as always YMMV. A lot of it has to do with the ROM, but I'd say that CPU scaling has realized a tangible gain for me.
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I've abandoned SetCPU and uninstalled it. Unnecessary consumption of system resources.
Same with any other user-space app/widget to control CPU speed scaling.
In the Bonsai ROM, the exact same capability, sans the profiles which I (and most people) don't use anyway, can be achieved by setting clock range and governor in /etc/init.d/24-cpufreq script. I expect that all the other OC kernels, if not every custom kernel, has a similar way to set CPU clock governor.
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Talking about Bonsai ROM tweaks on a Syndicate thread would be like me talking about BMW mods on a Honda forum. Either way, I looked around in the system folders and I can't find the 24-cpu file you're talking about. I upgraded yestereday from the 2.1 SyndicateROM to this, and for the first few hours, the ROM itself was definately quicker...I don't know if that's just because I came from 2.1 to 2.2, not to mention all the other 2.2 tweaks. After a few hours, I completely forgot that I could overclock this to 1.2Ghz. Installing SetCPU and bumping it to 1.2Ghz felt like just another jump. System resource consumption aside, it makes the phone all that much quicker while going between screen, apps list, closing apps, etc.
I could care less about battery life because I've learned to always have a charger around me since my days of the Moment, of hell, even my Treo's. I want fast, SetCPU is something I can see the difference in just from turning it on and off and seeing the differences.
I have a low end phone so I'm not used to so much increments of speed. I'm used to just having 2xx,4xx,6xx,8xxx instead of 2xx - 1600 so what settings do you guys have that is best for battery life and/or performance.
Appreciate it if you guys post your setCPU settings
1400 interactive - most my xoom can handle
Profile to cut back to 1000 at 35.2 degrees c - keep my oc'ed cpu from overheating hopefully
Profile to cut back to 456 when screen off - save battery
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1400 interactive - most my xoom can handle
Profile to cut back to 1000 at 35.2 degrees c - keep my oc'ed cpu from overheating hopefully
Profile to cut back to 456 when screen off - save battery
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thanks for posting
seems like I have a good xoom because mine can run at 1600 stable
I've looked around and haven't found much. I anyone know what would be a good overclocked setting but save alot of battery?
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It varies from phone to phone, unfortunately.
Jrummy's "Android Overclock" is what I personally use...
My settings are:
Low Voltage 1.2GHz Preset (Set at Boot)
And I then enable profiles for some battery saving.
Profiles:
Screen off %100 priority 800MHz max 400MHz min.
Temp > 42c %90 priority 800MHz max 400MHz min.
Battery < 30% %80 priority 800MHz max 400MHz min.
Screen On %70 priority 1200MHz max 400MHz min.
This ensures my phone is at 800MHz while the screen is off or while the temp is high or while my battery is low (I like that one so I can draw the last little bit of battery out a bit.) I put the Screen On profile just as a fail-safe to make sure I revert to 1.2 max while the screen is on unless the other conditions are met.
You can even make your screen off profile all the way down to 400MHz max and min...but that just makes me nervous for some reason.
I never had a problem for the few days that I used it, but I'm a bit OCD with some things.
I was worried that I wouldn't receive calls or my alarm wouldn't work or something like that.
Hopefully this helps a bit.
Try that as a starting point, and adjust as you see fit.
Awesome this helps alot, i have a few profiles set, mainly so up like yours lol, ill looking the lower voltage cause before when i was overclocked I drained battery like no tommrow
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