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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
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bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
manuelcalavera said:
bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
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Its not only bigger screen... its also bigger resolution (By 25%)...
If its another type of screen, it could even have better performance at less ennergy consumption
Great video tough i can't undestand that language either.
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
Thanks
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I don't understand what you mean.
the maximum of vids you can play (or lets say that the screen will show you) is ofcourse its own resolution. So you will not see real HD videos as this screen has not got a real HD resolution. But its own resolution is no problem for the CPU. Playing a movie with a bigger size, will just downscale the video to the resoultion of the HD but as there is more data to process, it may slow the CPU more down, depending of how big the movie is. but you would not want to play a 1080p video on this anyway as it would just use up huge amount of storage space, but doesn't look better. You will get the best and sharpest images if you convert your movies to the exact resolution of the screen.
Oh I understood your point, cause you probably use PocketDivXEncoder..
I was just comparing with HTC Kaiser.. On videos as well as other stuff, it sucked.
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
donbronzi said:
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
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i cant imagine that the HD as any problem with videos. It often just highly depends on the play. Windows media play is crap in playing videos most of the time. But even my old Compaq Ipaq could play videos very smooth.
Some players are faster then others.
language is czech
I thought it was Czech!!
But can you translate that part?
I think that it isn't very fluid the streaming..
Sometimes we notice some delays.. On my Diamond I can see it too..
atomikpt said:
How do you think HD will be playing HD videos?
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to answer the original question, no it will not be able to play HD videos.
HD by definition is at least 720p, that's 720p or 1080p by today's market distribution, may be later on, there will be some weird resolution at 960p or something like that. but right now HD video are only available in 720p or 1080p
1. the video chip is not powerful enough to decode HD content,
2. windows mobile 6 doesn't support HD content
3. Touch HD only has screen resolution of 800x640, again far from HD
4. CPU isn't power enough to decode HD content (even a full desktop/laptop 500 MHz cpu isn't enough to decode, let alone a stripped down mobile cpu.)
im sure that this "HD" will have some serious problems on playing good resolution videos ...
man , qualcomm's 528 Mhz is the CPU of htc diamond, and they let that beast to have this heart on his chest ! its not fair
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAROWXVQiw&feature=related
Look at 7 min, he shows a youtube movie wvga quality. It doesn't play very smooth either. Let's hope its because of a bad connection or something.
And lets not forget that the units floating around as preview units did carry unfinished ROM and early-stage drivers
Lucas0511 said:
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
buggybug0 said:
oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
Raziel1 said:
it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic.
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i am thinking of the OP's original question "can HD play HD videos" of course i understand the resolution of this phone and the video it will play.
so i dont know what you are thinking posting without reading the entire thread.
my post, which you quoted was wishing for playing good video at a decent frame rate. sure you can play videos on your 6 year old ppc, but try play, say a jet li movie on there, all his actions are a blur because the framerate isn't fast enough to capture all his kungfu actions. dido for sports videos. you understand now?
and if you are confused regarding why the OP want to watch and HD video on a non HD display, well i can tell you it is possible to put a video with higher resolution on a device which lower resolution display. it will just be upto that CPU to decode and shrink the video. suuurree, it doens't make sense, but it's do-able.. uptill a certain point (resolution), above which it will be too heavy and too much work for the CPU. and if you want to ask why, well i'm guessing 1. the OP was mislead by the phone's name Touch HD, 2. he may not have the time or software or doesn't want to reprocess the movies to 800x480.
and if you are still confused after reading all that.. well... ummm... LOL
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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Aye but i'd love to seen a flawless WGVA streaming video....
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that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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technically i disagree, but from a practical standpoint, sure, i'll go with that. those net videos doesn't require much processing power to decode, very little load on cpu.
Raziel1 said:
it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem.
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Traditionally speaking, all HTC devices have very poor video playback .
Till the latest batch of VGA Devices (Diamond and Touch Pro) which i have no access to and hence cannot comment upon, all previous VGA devices had problem playing back video ENCODED AT THERE NATIVE RESOLUTION. (for reference, have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324371&highlight=video)
the best i could manage was a 532x300 xvid with a bitrate of 800-1200.
so it will be a very pleasant surprise if the HD can playback video encoded at 640x480 leave alone 800x480.
On a side note, since HD will be pretty similar to the Diamond / Touch Pro , you could probably ask your friends to run a benchmark with different resolutions and bitrates.
does htc hd has the ability to run 720p videos on it or not and if not is there any application to run 720p videos
nop, the HD can't play HD videos
lpaso said:
nop, the HD can't play HD videos
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How ironic. LOL
It doesn't seem logical to play 720p videos on the Touch HD anyway. First of all, the max resolution on device is 800x480 and secondly 720p videos take quite a bit of space.
If you really want clarity, focus on encoding the video at the screens native res or even a bit lower resolution. What's more important is the bitrate and the codec.
tweaker said:
How ironic. LOL
It doesn't seem logical to play 720p videos on the Touch HD anyway. First of all, the max resolution on device is 800x480 and secondly 720p videos take quite a bit of space.
If you really want clarity, focus on encoding the video at the screens native res or even a bit lower resolution. What's more important is the bitrate and the codec.
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but my old nokia device n95 8gb plays 720p videos but not in full screen
can we play mp4 videos on htc hd with high frame rate and without the need of video encoder [with program on device ] like nokia devices
don't you think the nokia software somehow converted it ?
i mean a device with a
240 x 320 res playing media in 1280_720 and then resizing it even more ?
would not make much sense as it would have to process that huge amount
of data from 1280_720 to resize it down
Rudegar said:
don't you think the nokia software somehow converted it ?
i mean a device with a
240 x 320 res playing media in 1280_720 and then resizing it even more ?
would not make much sense as it would have to process that huge amount
of data from 1280_720 to resize it down
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i don;t think it converts it but it played it in about quarter of the screen with very bad image but smoothly with normal frame rate but my htc run mp4 with very low frame rate i don;t know why
lpaso said:
nop, the HD can't play HD videos
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HD videos are also 720*480 (480p) videos. And Blackstone can play videos with resolution 800*480. But just mp4 format. So, if you ask me, HTC Hd can play HD videos 480p in mp4 format.
HTC HD, Xperia and maybe some newest HTC devices are only devices that can play HD videos.
You can also watch HD videos on youtube with inbuilt youtube player.
gregy74 said:
HD videos are also 720*480 (480p) videos. And Blackstone can play videos with resolution 800*480. But just mp4 format. So, if you ask me, HTC Hd can play HD videos 480p in mp4 format.
HTC HD, Xperia and maybe some newest HTC devices are only devices that can play HD videos.
You can also watch HD videos on youtube with inbuilt youtube player.
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but when i tried these mp4 files at vga resolution it runs at very low frame rate also it is said in the specifications that it can run up to vga at 30 frames per second what is the problem
remember that you cant use coreplayer to play mp4 files and expect a result
the htc albujm app is the best for mp4
i myself prefer 400x240 divx videos
I have Att Fuze(touch pro)
with Coreplayer where i can use the Pad to click forward on movie Videos
like a que forward while watching movies
Was wondering can we Set it on Volume control to forward Video ?
Cos will get a phone HD2
Please if anyone has Coreplayer on there phone
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lol, i nearly pissed myself. First of all 720p is 1280x720, secondly a nokia n97 hasnt got a chance in hell of running this video, as stated before it doesnt have the native screen res or the power to pump that many pixels. There are only one oe two phones that will process this resolution but none of them can show them in native resolution and so they are pointless anyway unless they have a HDMI tv out. ( a couple do).
The touch hd can barely play a DVD rip in 480p without losing frames for god sake.
If you want clear smooth video you have to re-encode at the native res of the device and use a code the phone can hardware accelerate, the touch HD can only accelerate MP4 codec and so you are limited to that.
Now the touch HD2... well I was going to get all exited about that until i found it had no TV or mini hdmi out, what a waste of [email protected] time that it. HTC dropped the ball again in my humble opinion.
Tegra is where it is at, bring on the phones, build it and I will come
Get the facts right bub...
HD videos are also 720*480 (480p) videos
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NOT! HD starts at 720p! 480p is not and never has been HD!
hello my friend the first ans is it depands on which format u've to play. coz avi format not suported by wmp. After all the best option is to convert videos in littlebit low resolution so it also can't flickring when you play it & feel better experience and laisure to watching videos
Madcypher said:
NOT! HD starts at 720p! 480p is not and never has been HD!
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480p is hd, but the hd can not play videos at anywhere near enough bitrate to be classed as hd lol also even if you play a video at the same resolution as 480p its not 480p hd unless the image is scanned progressively, rather than in alternate fields.
I justried to play full HD videos through my pendrive......the default video player says file cannot be played and when I try to play through mobo player the audio and video is out of sync....I thought this tab plays full HD videos.....guys some advice!!
AFAIK it doesn't. 3.1 should have Full HD support but 3.0.1 doesn't have it.
I could be wrong though.
3.1 as far as we know will not play 1080p videos only output them via HDMI.
Currently only 720p can be played.
I hope im wrong about the first thing.
But in the tabs config it was written that it plays full hd videos!
And even xoom plays full hd vids!
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did u try a player like Mobo?
FullHD 1080p wmv works and probably the same with some mkv's but audio will not ... it will just scale the video to 720p..
you can try mkv's with "Astro filemanager" -> Open As -> video
and the mkv will play, if not already loaded automatically..
this also works for other formats..
Irieone said:
did u try a player like Mobo?
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Yes..I tried...audio video out of sync!
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Dexter_nlb said:
FullHD 1080p wmv works and probably the same with some mkv's but audio will not ... it will just scale the video to 720p..
you can try mkv's with "Astro filemanager" -> Open As -> video
and the mkv will play, if not already loaded automatically..
this also works for other formats..
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Why doesn't it work for mp4??
I am asking this becoz when I play a 720p video on my tv thru hdmi....it really sucks!
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i would expect 1080p MP4 recordings working too, if you got 720p working.
but it probably all depends on encoding..
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i would expect 1080p MP4 recordings working too, if you got 720p working.
but it probably all depends on encoding..
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I used mobo player..I used the soft decoding mode in it but the video was far far behind than the audio...any solutions?
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screen size 800
why want read 1080p...
don't take it bad, but, you should post a unique post "Vari9 Questions / FAQ"
and we stick it "D
so far Acer says 1080p video-out will be supported in a Q2 update
and unless it's hardware supported, I doubt the video will render smoothly....
sanaell said:
screen size 800
why want read 1080p...
don't take it bad, but, you should post a unique post "Vari9 Questions / FAQ"
and we stick it "D
so far Acer says 1080p video-out will be supported in a Q2 update
and unless it's hardware supported, I doubt the video will render smoothly....
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Hehe.....I wanted my tab to read 1080p coz I have my music videos and movies all in full hd....converting them all would be a pain in the neck......plus even mobile phones with a screen size of 4.0 inch can play full hd videos!
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it's kind of overload the works of your tablet...
tablet have to convert and downscale anyway to render the video... since 1080 > 800
you should convert, it's the best things and that will save in a way the battery....
I just say.
Rock player for tegra and a 1080p file plays fine and looks good hdmi out
sanaell said:
it's kind of overload the works of your tablet...
tablet have to convert and downscale anyway to render the video... since 1080 > 800
you should convert, it's the best things and that will save in a way the battery....
I just say.
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I think most people are actually talking about HDMI output, which at the moment is stuck at 720p.
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I think most people are actually talking about HDMI output, which at the moment is stuck at 720p.
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its not stuck at 720p.. but if you think about it, your native tablet resolution is 1280x800 , which is natively projected/mirrored to your telly and if you want 1080p which is then going to happen with it?
its gonna scale it...
if your video of 1920x1080 should be played on a tv without mirror, it could work, but i doubt it got the videomemory to have 1 fullHD and one scaled at 1280x1080 . which is the problem right now..
but i know Atrix4G have something like that, as i uses 2 separate displays at the same time. so it might be we get that function..no video on tablet, but fullHD on telly.
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Rock player for tegra and a 1080p file plays fine and looks good hdmi out
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I dont think so, because have a checked topic for this problem. And some files is played fine, except 1080 i though have some problem with the Tegra2 decode, not because of OS.
So confuse about this problem, if can not play smoothly 720 and 1080, so HDMI output for nothing.
Another thing is can we play flash game in facebook with 3.0?
vari9 said:
I justried to play full HD videos through my pendrive......the default video player says file cannot be played and when I try to play through mobo player the audio and video is out of sync....I thought this tab plays full HD videos.....guys some advice!!
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iconia tab can't play 1080p, the upcoming upgrade will support 1080p playback, now i just use a tool to deal with full hd videos
Elizabeth05 said:
iconia tab can't play 1080p, the upcoming upgrade will support 1080p playback, now i just use a tool to deal with full hd videos
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Wht tool??
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How many 1080p Adobe Flash videos can Galaxy SII play at same time?
If you open 20tabs all with 1080p video, only the current tab can run..... with 1080p perfectly
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If you open 20tabs all with 1080p video, only the current tab can run..... with 1080p perfectly
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You have to make a website with many 1080p Flash videos on one page.
ironically, it stutters in some other websites
I managed to get two 720p youtube videos to work and even though it played well and the phone stayed responsive their was some stuttering, I'd guess frame rate dropped to something like 10fps.
Answering your question I think one only, which is still pretty impressive tbh.
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1080p flash is one of the main reasons i ditched my g2x in favor of this phone the sgs2 handles high def flash and other media effortlessly
What ROM are you guys using?
I tried to play 1080p youtube videos on desktop version and it's very stuttering.
hbkmog said:
What ROM are you guys using?
I tried to play 1080p youtube videos on desktop version and it's very stuttering.
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1080p youtube videos should play smooth. You might have to pause video for the streaming to catch up, youtube' servers seem to slow.
Are you using the stock ROM and stock browser?
I was using MIUI and Dolphin Mini and 1080p isn't that smooth.
Why do you want to play 1080p in a 480p screen?
It is ridiculous.
kersh said:
Why do you want to play 1080p in a 480p screen?
It is ridiculous.
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HDMI output?
hbkmog said:
Are you using the stock ROM and stock browser?
I was using MIUI and Dolphin Mini and 1080p isn't that smooth.
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Stock rom works best with Flash
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HDMI output?
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Nope.
HDMI output it is only 1080p using a video file on the phone output by the video player in full screen mode.
If you try to see a flash video that it is on the phone UI (browser), the output will be only 800x480 in the TV, so it is not possible to see flash video 1080p at 1080p in the TV with the hdmi. You will see 800x480 scaled to 1080 on TV and it will looks like crap and same quality that using 480p video.
So seeing 1080p flash on a phone it is simply stupid and without real use until adobe makes that flash can go full screen video on the phones, and they cant do this, so theres no future with this. Maybe galaxy 3 can show true 1080p ui when connected to hdmi and make it useful, but not now.
Hi I have recently tried to play 1080p movie using mxplayer on my xperia play. It is running the krisdee nxt lite rom v1.3. I have tried overclocking to 1.4ghz but that didnt work. Can someone help me on this? Thanks
Why playing a 1080p movie, our pkay doens't even have this resolution. If you played the video it will be laggy.
You could try reencode the movie to 480p. If you don't care about quality, Total Video Converter is basic enough. (used it waaay back at 2009, not sure how is it now)
MediaCoder also seems to be able to do the job albiet slightly more advanced.
You could also stream the video using Emit or something similar. (used it quite a while back but didn't work as expected)
Hope it helps.
Hi thanks for the quick replies, at the moment I convert my movies from 1080p to 720p, as most of my movies are blue ray rips. They work perfectly at 720p. I tried 1080p but they are jerky and the audio is not clear. To save conversion I was wondering if there was anything I could do to get 1080p working smoothly. Thanks
As mentioned in the previous post, you could try Emit.
Look up google play store and see what other similar apps there are under their recommendation.
I'm sure there's something for this requirement.
Anyone have any more ideas?
hehe
xperia play does not support 1080P playback
The Xperia Play screen resolution is 854 x 480, so 1080p are useless
If you tried to play 1080p video, wouldn't there be black lines across the top and bottom?
toshirak said:
If you tried to play 1080p video, wouldn't there be black lines across the top and bottom?
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Nope, as the Play's screen is 16:9 just like videos, so no black bars unless it's part of the video itself.
I never could get 1080p videos to run smoothly on mine, so I just used Handbrake to reencode it to 480p, as the screen is only 480p anyway.