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Ok, I have been thrown for a loop and need some help....
I had a Sprint Hero Rooted on 2.1 the .5 sprint update
Tried to run the new update but it kept getting corrupt.
Did a Nandroid backup
So I reverted back to the .5 RUU
Then it wanted me to update to the old .6 update, so I did
Hoping then I would upgrade to the new .6 but it was not able to find a new update?
Wanted to restore my nandroid update.
When I try to boot into the recovery mode I get a picture of a phone with a red Explanation mark in a triangle.
There is a bunch of people on the net that say they have seen or gotten it, but no one says how to get rid of it? So I can not get in to recovery mode at all.
Tried the home+power boot
Tried the volume down + power then home
always ends in the same screen with no recovery.
Tried multiple times to install the .5 RUU
Reset phone
never can get back there to the recovery?
Phone will boot fine into 2.1 and run fine..
Anyone have any ideas, I have tried everything I can think of.
Thanks
Did u try placing the recovery on ur SD card and flashing it threw terminal on ur phone
Root-Hack-Mod-Always™
You lost root, as far as I remember the .6 update was to block the corrent rooting efforts that you see around here, thats why the rooting instruction say to go back to the .5 ruu.
The corrupted update your getting is just sprints server being bogged down.
What you need todo is go back and re-root your phone. Dont worry about the update untill it gets released into one of the current roms or until you here that its safe todo without losing root.
ASimmons said:
You lost root, as far as I remember the .6 update was to block the corrent rooting efforts that you see around here, thats why the rooting instruction say to go back to the .5 ruu.
The corrupted update your getting is just sprints server being bogged down.
What you need todo is go back and re-root your phone. Dont worry about the update untill it gets released into one of the current roms or until you here that its safe todo without losing root.
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Thanks, I can't believe I missed that! I had never tried a backup before root, so I did not think about that. Now I know and hopefully this will help someone that googles this issue, as there is never a clear answer until yours.
Thanks again...
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
Also If you ever run an ruu on your phone you can kiss your root good bye no matter what version you do. but if you have nand backups you can reroot your phone and then restore one of your backups since there stored on your sdcard.
copc said:
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
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Correction: If you see this symbol, it means you don't have a custom recovery image in the phone. You can actually be rooted and still get that symbol if you haven't yet flashed a custom recovery after you rooted. You need to have a custom recovery (that requires root) to avoid getting that symbol when you try to boot into recovery.
Most rooting methods on here automatically include flashing a custom recovery as one of the steps, so this isn't really a big issue....but I just wanted to clarify the specifics of this for anyone else who reads.
copc said:
So in closing of this thread:
if you are trying to get into recovery and see "Phone with Explanation mark" image.
it's because your phone is not rooted
So root your phone and it's all good
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I am running a rooted 2.1 and get this symbol , i installed rom manager and it asked me to install flash clockworkmod recovery and it booted into recovery straight away allowing me to partition my sd card, but if i want to access this mode i have to run flash clockworkmod recovery everytime or it will not work
Any idea why that is anyone?
brisuth said:
I am running a rooted 2.1 and get this symbol , i installed rom manager and it asked me to install flash clockworkmod recovery and it booted into recovery straight away allowing me to partition my sd card, but if i want to access this mode i have to run flash clockworkmod recovery everytime or it will not work
Any idea why that is anyone?
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Nope once its on there you should be able to hold the home key while rebooting to get into recovery.
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Nope once its on there you should be able to hold the home key while rebooting to get into recovery.
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only way can get there is through flash clockworkmod recovery then select either reboot in recovery mode or turn of handset and restart with home and power button, what ever flash clockworkmod recovery does to make it work as soon as it has been used i am guessing it is deleted or modified,
i have tried running it then checking files on sd card but cant see anything different
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only way can get there is through flash clockworkmod recovery then select either reboot in recovery mode or turn of handset and restart with home and power button, what ever flash clockworkmod recovery does to make it work as soon as it has been used i am guessing it is deleted or modified,
i have tried running it then checking files on sd card but cant see anything different
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The recovery console isn't on your SD card, it's flashed to a partition inside your phone's memory. So you won't see anything different on your card.
And if you can boot into recovery by "restart with home and power button" like you say, then it's working as it should -- that's how you get into recovery.
chromiumleaf said:
The recovery console isn't on your SD card, it's flashed to a partition inside your phone's memory. So you won't see anything different on your card.
And if you can boot into recovery by "restart with home and power button" like you say, then it's working as it should -- that's how you get into recovery.
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just had a friendly member point out what i was starting to suspect the problem lies with the custom recovery being flashed back to stock on every restart, the shell command here
/system/etc/install-recovery.sh this stops any custom recovery on reboot. any advice on what tools to edit or remove
Delete that file when you get root I guess. Our as soon as you reboot into clockwork recovery, flash a rom. Use nfinitefx if you want a stock one
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I always had root that was where the confusion was, what i did not know was the script was running with every boot of the handset and removing the recovery that was there as it was identified as unofficial and exclamation mark could be down to me using many methods to flash i may have renamed original recovery so when it goes to exclamation it is because cant find original recovery whether handset is rooted or not.
danaff37 said:
Delete that file when you get root I guess. Our as soon as you reboot into clockwork recovery, flash a rom. Use nfinitefx if you want a stock one
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would that have worked? i thought about it many many times but as i had never flashed before was unsure how many times phone would reset and if it did before it was installed could i lose my recovery.
on the plus side the 2 months i have spent trying to solve this i have a much broader view of the workings of my handset and without the many members like yourself who take the time to reply and try to help others i would have given up a long time ago.
Brian
I'm sure if you deleted that script a custom recovery would have stuck
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Ok, I know I am a noob to android phones and to this forum, but I already spent many hours online researching the problem and didn't find anything that helped.
So, here's what happened:
I got my MyTouch 4G about 2 weeks ago unlocked. I wanted to get rid of a lot of the garbage that came with it, so I followed the steps and successfully rooted it and then removed several of the preinstalled apps with Titanium backup. So far, no noticeable problems.
Then I wasn't happy with how quickly my battery was draining, so I installed Advanced Task Killer, and set it to automatically kill certain apps periodically.
A few days later when I was trying to add a widget to the desktop, I got the familiar to some message "Sorry, com.htc.launcher has stopped working". Everything else was still working fine on the phone. I researched the problem and the first proposed solution to clear the data for the process from Settings/Applications, did not help. The second proposed solution was to do a factory reset. So, I rebooted with volume down + power pressed together and chose factory reset.
After 4-5 min, I got into the welcome screen where I did the initial setup. After this was complete, the phone checked off that everything was setup correctly (apps, widgets, etc). Then it started loading the desktop and the message "loading..." appeared. This is where it froze.
Basically, I can't get past the "loading..." message on the home screen, no desktop ever loads, and I have access to nothing other than the camera key.
I let it stay for hours to see if it will eventuall load, but nothing happened. I also rebooted and tried factory reset many times and it always get stuck at the same point. I tried all of the above with and without a SIM card, with and without a memory card - basically I exhausted all possible combinations but I always get the same frozen "loading..." screen.
Has anyone experienced this problem? I feel helpless rebooting or reseting the phone from the phone itself because it always get stuck. Is there a way to factory reset from a computer?
Thank you so much if you can help me with any advice and Happy New Year!
Vess
Sounds like u deleted something dealing with the launcher. Doing factory reset well not put it back. I would say, do a nandroid backup, flash iced glacier rom. U could just download another launcher, but being that u wiped the phone, u can't even get to market in that state.
esincho said:
Sounds like u deleted something dealing with the launcher. Doing factory reset well not put it back. I would say, do a nandroid backup, flash iced glacier rom. U could just download another launcher, but being that u wiped the phone, u can't even get to market in that state.
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Hi, thank you for your message. I think you are correct about deleting the launcher and factory reset not fixing it.
But I don't know how to do "nandroid backup, flash iced glacier rom". Could you point me to instructions on that? Sorry, I'm really new to android phones.
I'm on my phone, go to the development section for this rom. You're see iced glacier. Instructions on the first post
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I'm on my phone, go to the development section for this rom. You're see iced glacier. Instructions on the first post
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I did what you suggested but from what I understand to flash a rom I need to be able to boot into Recovery mode, which I can't do either. Every time I choose Recovery I get the "!" screen and I'm stuck. Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you.
vess22 said:
so I followed the steps and successfully rooted it
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You didn't by any chance install Clockwork ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and then make a Nandroid backup before doing all of this, did you?
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You didn't by any chance install Clockwork ROM Manager, flash ClockworkMod Recovery and then make a Nandroid backup before doing all of this, did you?
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No sir, I didn't do any of the above unfortunately. From what I understand had I done that, I wouldn't have a problem booting into Recovery mode, correct?
I believe you might still be able to get to what you need via adb. That's not my specialty though, even though I can mash out a few commands and comprehend what I'm doing. It would be remiss of me to guide you any further, but I don't think all hope is lost for you. Search the forums for 'adb' and 'recovery' and let's also see who replies back with some better advice.
Find the raw .img of cw recovery then adb flash_recovery /location/of/recovery.img
If that doesn't work you'll need to use fastboot assuming you updated to eng spl.
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sounds like your boot.img is borked.... try flashing one of the many available kernels (make sure it will work with your rom first... if you haven't flashed a rom or flashed a sense based rom then use an HTC kernel if you're running CM or MIUI use a CM based kernel) and then when you get it running read this and understand why task killers are bad FAQ: You shouldn't be using a task killer with Android
Yes, I'm starting to realize that now my only option is to do flash recovery through adb. So, I've spent all night last night trying to understand what adb is. I installed and updated the sdk, but my adb shell doesn't see my phone as a listed device, so I'm stuck at this point. And yes, I read probably 5 tutorials on installing various usb drivers/ modifying sdk ini files/etc to make your computer recognize the phone as an adb device. I tried everything that was suggested but no luck so far.
I've spent nearly 30 hours so far since this whole disaster started and although I haven't made much progress, I've learned quite a few things.
And, no, I won't mess with Advanced Task Killer or Titanium Backup any more, just give me my phone back and working
Are you s=off with eng boot loader, I don't think you will be able to get a stable adb connection with the ROM acting all wonky.
Best bet is fastboot flash recovery
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ESKIMOn00b said:
Are you s=off with eng boot loader, I don't think you will be able to get a stable adb connection with the ROM acting all wonky.
Best bet is fastboot flash recovery
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Yes, s=off with eng boot loader. However, I never did a custom ROM flash, so I cannot go to recovery mode from the phone. I thought even for fastboot flash recovery I need an adb connection, no? How else can I do that?
Thanks.
vess22 said:
Yes, s=off with eng boot loader. However, I never did a custom ROM flash, so I cannot go to recovery mode from the phone. I thought even for fastboot flash recovery I need an adb connection, no? How else can I do that?
Thanks.
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Boot into fastboot and then you should have access to adb. You can then use fastboot to flash clockwork recovery.
There is a STOCK NANDROID RESTORE somewhere in the development section here. Use clockwork recovery to restore that nandroid, boot up and go on your merry way.
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download clockwork recovery and save it to c:\android-sdk-windows\tools (or maybe platform-tools, depending on where the fastboot.exe file is located)
CLOCKWORK RECOVERY LINK
power off phone
hold vol down + power
select FASTBOOT
connect phone to computer - let windows do it's hardware detecting/installing thing
open a command prompt and navigate to your sdk tools folder
type this, without quotes "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
disconnect phone and power off/reboot/etc
You should now have access to clockwork recovery and be able to flash whatever you want
Phateless said:
Boot into fastboot and then you should have access to adb. You can then use fastboot to flash clockwork recovery.
There is a STOCK NANDROID RESTORE somewhere in the development section here. Use clockwork recovery to restore that nandroid, boot up and go on your merry way.
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download clockwork recovery and save it to c:\android-sdk-windows\tools (or maybe platform-tools, depending on where the fastboot.exe file is located)
CLOCKWORK RECOVERY LINK
power off phone
hold vol down + power
select FASTBOOT
connect phone to computer - let windows do it's hardware detecting/installing thing
open a command prompt and navigate to your sdk tools folder
type this, without quotes "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
disconnect phone and power off/reboot/etc
You should now have access to clockwork recovery and be able to flash whatever you want
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Thank you, thank you! You saved my life. Finally a solution that worked for me. God bless you
BTW, I was never able to get adb detect my phone but fastboot did! So, I followed the steps you suggested and it worked. So relieved now
Vess
vess22 said:
Thank you, thank you! You saved my life. Finally a solution that worked for me. God bless you
BTW, I was never able to get adb detect my phone but fastboot did! So, I followed the steps you suggested and it worked. So relieved now
Vess
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lol, glad I could help! ADB should be working in Clockwork Recovery now, btw.
You should have seen how I freaked out the first time I tried to root my mt3g. I forgot to wipe and it kept freezing on boot, lol.
So what are you gonna do now? Load a custom rom or stay with stock?
Phateless said:
lol, glad I could help! ADB should be working in Clockwork Recovery now, btw.
You should have seen how I freaked out the first time I tried to root my mt3g. I forgot to wipe and it kept freezing on boot, lol.
So what are you gonna do now? Load a custom rom or stay with stock?
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I just loaded ice glacier 1.1.4 unthemed. To be honest I don't see much difference except that the bloatware is gone, so I'm happy with it. I don't know if it makes sense to go back to stock. My phone is not under warranty. Is there another reason one might want stock?
vess22 said:
I just loaded ice glacier 1.1.4 unthemed. To be honest I don't see much difference except that the bloatware is gone, so I'm happy with it. I don't know if it makes sense to go back to stock. My phone is not under warranty. Is there another reason one might want stock?
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You make an appealing case for Iced Glacier.
Stock tends to be the most stable and reliable, plus you get OTA updates. Other than that, not much reason. I can tell you from recent experience that my phone gets a gps lock much quicker with stock than with cm6, but I'll do further testing to see if that's really the case.
I'm having a similar problem and I'm following these steps, but not having any luck.
Info on my phone: It's a MT4G that I got just this past week from eBay, worked fine up until this morning. Does not have an SD card and the one I have from my previous phone (Vibrant) is a highly suspect piece of junk so it's not in the phone right now. I was running VISIONary+ on it and had just set it to temp root on boot, but never got it to reboot. I plugged it in to charge this morning, thought it was plugged all the way in (maybe it wasn't? Would that cause this kind of borking?) and the phone froze. Rebooting didn't help. Actually I had pulled the battery, rebooted it, stuffed it in my pocket and then 2 hours later realized it was still on the boot up screen. That's when I got scared. It's running ADW, Superpower, TIBackup and Tasker, but there's no other software I can think of on the phone that might have mattered. Never installed Clockwork or anything like that before, regretting that now.
On the hboot screen I have:
GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT 0.86.0000
MICROP-0429
RADIO 26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Sep 27 2010, 11:12:59
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Going to Fastboot, I can get the phone to be recognized as an HTC Bootloader in my device manager, and I can try and get the recovery.img loaded as was instructed above using adb but it always fails. Output from that is:
sending 'recovery' (8701 KB)... OKAY [471.891s]
writing 'recover'... INFOsignature checking...
FAILED (remote: signature verify fail)
finished. total time: 473.125s
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When I try and do recovery, I get a quick flash of a phone with a red exclamation point over it, then black screen of nothing. Booting regular leads to a constant white MyTouch4g screen, no change. Trying Factor Reset leads to the skateboarding androids, no change even after a long time. In any of these cases, I have to pull the battery before I can try anything again.
Did I bork my phone? How the heck did I do that? Is there any way to further save it? Any help you guys could give me would be massively appreciated, thanks in advance.
RedDonkey said:
I'm having a similar problem and I'm following these steps, but not having any luck.
Info on my phone: It's a MT4G that I got just this past week from eBay, worked fine up until this morning. Does not have an SD card and the one I have from my previous phone (Vibrant) is a highly suspect piece of junk so it's not in the phone right now. I was running VISIONary+ on it and had just set it to temp root on boot, but never got it to reboot. I plugged it in to charge this morning, thought it was plugged all the way in (maybe it wasn't? Would that cause this kind of borking?) and the phone froze. Rebooting didn't help. Actually I had pulled the battery, rebooted it, stuffed it in my pocket and then 2 hours later realized it was still on the boot up screen. That's when I got scared. It's running ADW, Superpower, TIBackup and Tasker, but there's no other software I can think of on the phone that might have mattered. Never installed Clockwork or anything like that before, regretting that now.
On the hboot screen I have:
Going to Fastboot, I can get the phone to be recognized as an HTC Bootloader in my device manager, and I can try and get the recovery.img loaded as was instructed above using adb but it always fails. Output from that is:
When I try and do recovery, I get a quick flash of a phone with a red exclamation point over it, then black screen of nothing. Booting regular leads to a constant white MyTouch4g screen, no change. Trying Factor Reset leads to the skateboarding androids, no change even after a long time. In any of these cases, I have to pull the battery before I can try anything again.
Did I bork my phone? How the heck did I do that? Is there any way to further save it? Any help you guys could give me would be massively appreciated, thanks in advance.
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The instructions above only pertain to a rooted phone. Your phone is not rooted and you dont have eng bootloader. Without superuser access you cant even flash recovery like you were trying. A factory reset didnt fix your problem?
Side note, im an opponent of doing the whole temp rooting only thing cause if you screw something up you dont have access to tools to fix anything, your just screwed if something happens like this.
So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!
Just for your information use the root method in wiki thats on this forum its easy. I think the visionary is outdated.
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jjp023 said:
red triangle with an exclamation point in it.
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The red triangle is the pre-screen to the stock recovery. At that screen if you press Vol + and Power (IIRC), it will take you to the recovery. I am not sure why you got this screen if you flashed clockwork recovery from ROM manager.
If the phone is not properly rooted, it probably cannot flash a custom recovery. Make sure you follow the instructions for rooting via Gfree in the wiki.
you are just soft rooted you will need to go through the root through adb
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So I'm fairly new to rooting but I have had android since the day it came out and I am good with the system. I have a g2 running a root of Visionary. I wanted to install a custom rom, so i was in Rom manager and i flashed in Clockwork Recovery, that went fine, and then i clicked back up current rom. I changed the name to original Rom, then the phone went blank then it had a g2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Does that mean the phone was bricked or what mode was that in? I pulled the battery and powered the phone on while holding the volume down. I think clicked the recovery option and the phone produced the same black screen with a G2 with a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. I then pulled the battery again, powered it up with the volume down button and did a factory reset and now my phone is back to how it was out the box running regular software.
Any idea what I did wrong? Or what went wrong? I would like to throw visionary back on and do a temp root and throw in a custom rom. My end goal is to do it once and have the phone run flawlessly and fast and never mess with any settings again. Help please!
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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).
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You can't load a custom recovery with only temp root (I'm guessing that's all you had). What you saw was the stock recovery (so your phone was actually fine and you didn't have to factory reset). If you want to load a custom ROM, you will need to follow one of the permanent root guides first (use the wiki or I just wrote another guide if you can't get ADB working). If you did have permanent root (check for S-OFF in the bootloader), try flashing the ClockworkMod recovery again (sometimes it doesn't take the first time).
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement
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Thanks for the help, I appreciate the quick responses. I hade visionary. I temp rooted it and then perm rooted by jus clicking the perm root on visionary. Not sure if that would do the same. I dnt think I have the confidence yet to perm room through terminal and writing scripts. what way would u suggest to perm room and What roms would u suggest that are relativly novice leve and provide signifcant improvement
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Not positive how Visionary attempts to permroot, but you should check to see if you have it. Hold the volume down while powering on to enter the bootloader. The first line will say S-OFF if you have root and S-ON if you don't. If you have S-OFF, go ahead and try to flash the ClockworkMod recovery again (it just may not have worked that first time). If you have S-ON, or still have problems flashing the recovery, you can use either of the guides I linked to in the earlier post (you don't have to write scripts, but will need to use terminal---just follow the instructions carefully and watch for typos).
As far as ROMs, once rooted, you can try any of them really easily to see what you like best (be sure to make a backup first and you can always revert back). They are all pretty friendly to use right out of the box.
My phone is back to stock so I can't check lol. The link you posted titled guide seems pretty user friendly. I will attempt that root tnite... I will not do the h boot bc I dnt want more risk of a brick. Once I root I will flash clockworkrecovery. So in rom manager i should flash clockworkrecovery then scroll down to the bottom of it and backup current rom.how can I confirm its backed up? And once it is backed up I am clear to install new roms correct
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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.
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If you were already S-OFF, doing the factory reset shouldn't return you to S-ON, so you could still check if you wanted to.
As far as backing up goes, once you choose backup in ROM Manager, your phone will boot into the custom recovery and you'll actually see all of the files getting backed up (there's also a progress bar). The backups are stored on your SD card in the clockworkmod directory (if you want to check to make sure it's there). After you have the backup, you're free to start testing new ROMs.
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So jus confirmed s on... so I will root using the guide u provided tnite.. few more questions jus to be safe I dnt wanna be a annoying but I appreciate the help...
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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jjp023 said:
1. Once rooted and in rom manager I should first flash clockworkrecovery then click back up current rom?
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Yup.
jjp023 said:
2.if I get back to the g2 with red triangle screen I should clikc power and volume down and which option should I choose at that screen?
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This just means the ClockworkMod recovery did not flash properly (and you are seeing the stock recovery). Just boot the phone normally and try flashing the recovery again in ROM Manager. If that doesn't work, there are other options we can try, but it should work fine once you are actually permrooted.
Sounds good. I'm trying to prepare myself to do this root later tnite.
I want to make sure I get the command right in terminal.
After the money sign and number signs there are spaces correct?
So my keystrokes shoule be (I dnt press $ or #)
$(space)su(enter)
#(space)cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root/data/local/perm_root(enter)
#(space)chmod(space)777(space)/data/local/*(enter)
#(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
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You don't need to type the space at the start of the commands (they will already be there). Also you are missing a space in the second line:
cp(space)/sdcard/root_files/perm_root(space)/data/local/perm_root(enter)
Otherwise, looks good.
I know exactly what you're talking about with the triangle and red exclamation mark. Happened to me when i first flashed clockwork mod (CWM). What fixed it for me was to flash it TWICE when using Rom Manager. The first time you try to flash it, it doesn't always work, so you just reboot as normal (not into recovery) and flash CWM again and it should fix it.
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This may "wreak of non-search" and I am sorry if it does. While I have searched, the overall panic that one experiences when you suspect a brick and cannot afford to have a brick.... (that, plus a friend purchased this Glacier for me to help me get back on my feet with respect to career/employment, etc., so a good amount of guilt is thrown into this mix)... all prevents me from rationally and methodically searching thread after thread to figure out why I am having the problem I am having.
I will be as precise as possible.
1. Back in Feb., I perm rooted with visionary... then about 2 weeks later, I read that this root was not true radio s=off perm root, so I used adb and the scripts to perm root again--using the wiki as a guide. Saved a copy of the partition 7 bin on my laptop as an added precaution. Also, BTW, I never flashed the engineering HBOOT. It didn't seem essential to do so... PLUS, in almost every guide it warned that this was the most likely chance for one to f*ck up and brick, so in the interest of erring on the side of caution, I skipped that.
2. I kept stock ROM for several weeks after that... just enjoying root and freezing bloatware with Ti, and doing other root-enabled mods... nothing too involved.
3. About 1 week ago, I finally decided to flash my ROM. I had Rom Manager (paid version), and had flashed ClockworkMod Recovery 3.0.0.5. Further, as an FYI, I had/have numerous nandroid backups on the SD, plus several Ti backups of apps/data... even sync'd this with dropbox, so I can access those now (which are not of any help obviously).
4. I first flashed a CM7 nightly build--wiped data and cache, and as far as I know followed the guides precisely. All was well...new ROM worked alright... some bugs, but it was nice to have the new features, etc.. And of course the mental gratification of having 2.3.3 (GB) instead of 2.2.1 (boring old froyo). I updated the nightly maybe 2 times... in each case, I simply flashed without backing up those ROMS or wiping data/cache as they didn't seem necessary, plus I still had all my stock rom nandroid backups on the SD.
5. Then Last night, RC4 came out. I flashed this the same way... no wipe. This morning... after using it for awhile, I started to get forced close problems on numerous apps... and the one that was most bothersome was my Market app... So after trying to Fix Permissions using RM to no avail.... I decided to restore the last nandroid backup of my stock (rooted) ROM. All seemed well while the restore was progressing... I was powered by AC (as always). But when the phone rebooted at the end of the restore, it stayed at the MyTouch splash for a long time... longer than I thought was appropriate (~20 minutes). So, I took out the battery since nothing else responded, and tried to boot into recovery. WHen I tried this, I got 3 quick vibrate alerts, and a blank screen, with the LED flashing every second in an ominous disconcerting way. (!!) Again, I removed battery, then tried to start phone again normally. Same problem.... It won't go past the MyTouch splash.
Since I cannot get into the phone... I am of course panicked... I have ADB on my laptop if needed, but I really am at a loss as to why this happened, and what I can do at this point....
Please, please advise. My utmost appreciation and sincerest gratitude in advance for any assistance.
Thank you!!!
syntropic
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5. Then Last night, RC4 came out. I flashed this the same way... no wipe. This morning... after using it for awhile, I started to get forced close problems on numerous apps... and the one that was most bothersome was my Market app... So after trying to Fix Permissions using RM to no avail.... I decided to restore the last nandroid backup of my stock (rooted) ROM. All seemed well while the restore was progressing... I was powered by AC (as always). But when the phone rebooted at the end of the restore, it stayed at the MyTouch splash for a long time... longer than I thought was appropriate (~20 minutes). So, I took out the battery since nothing else responded, and tried to boot into recovery. WHen I tried this, I got 3 quick vibrate alerts, and a blank screen, with the LED flashing every second in an ominous disconcerting way. (!!) Again, I removed battery, then tried to start phone again normally. Same problem.... It won't go past the MyTouch splash.
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Can you boot in to the bootloader?pull the battery put it in then hold the power button down and the volume rocker down?
should come up to a white screen.
take the battery out and let the phone sit a little bit. this has worked for others to get into hboot then recovery. Also if you get it going INSTALL THE ENG HBOOT! Can really help you with soft brick among other things.
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Can you boot in to the bootloader?pull the battery put it in then hold the power button down and the volume rocker down?
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No... that is what I meant when I said tried to "boot into recovery". And I got the 3 vibrate alerts and a blank screen, and nothing........
take the battery out and let the phone sit a little bit. this has worked for others to get into hboot then recovery. Also if you get it going INSTALL THE ENG HBOOT! Can really help you with soft brick among other things.
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Will do... Thank you. DO you have any idea of where I f*cked up here??
Could be a number of things. Like wipe didn't go through completely , bad download, or just random crap out like a few others. Even flashing with the wrong cwr version can less to your issues. Lol like I said could be a number of things. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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OK... Good news. I am in now in CWR. BTW, this may have been something that was my mistake to begin with. When I originally tried to boot into Bootloader, I held the volume button UP. I just tried both up and down volume hold while powering on. When I hold volume up, I get 3 vibrate alerts and nothing. When I hold volume down, I go straight into the bootloader/HBOOT.
OK.. So as said, I am now in CWR. What is the best course of action here...?? Can I try to restore my nandroid backup (maybe a different one) of my old rooted stock ROM? Should I do a factory reset (prefer not to, but I submit to the advice of my more skilled android fans)?
Just a point in the right direction, and I think we can put this thread to bed. Thanks a million just for holding my hand while I fixed this....
I would wipe EVERYTHING but the sd card where your backup is, then attemp restoring whatever rom you had last. 2.2 and 2.3 use different versions of clock work and don't remember which 3.0.0.5 went with. So use that last one that booted and then updat clock work to 3.0.0.6 as it will flash both 2.2 and 2.3
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syntropic said:
OK... Good news. I am in now in CWR. BTW, this may have been something that was my mistake to begin with. When I originally tried to boot into Bootloader, I held the volume button UP. I just tried both up and down volume hold while powering on. When I hold volume up, I get 3 vibrate alerts and nothing. When I hold volume down, I go straight into the bootloader/HBOOT.
OK.. So as said, I am now in CWR. What is the best course of action here...?? Can I try to restore my nandroid backup (maybe a different one) of my old rooted stock ROM? Should I do a factory reset (prefer not to, but I submit to the advice of my more skilled android fans)?
Just a point in the right direction, and I think we can put this thread to bed. Thanks a million just for holding my hand while I fixed this....
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What recovery are you using? 3.0.0.5? and you're trying to flash a 2.2 ROM. Thats where the problem lies. See my post regarding this. It's in my signature, the green one.
I would wipe EVERYTHING but the sd card where your backup is, then attemp restoring whatever rom you had last. 2.2 and 2.3 use different versions of clock work and don't remember which 3.0.0.5 went with. So use that last one that booted and then updat clock work to 3.0.0.6 as it will flash both 2.2 and 2.3
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OK... and neidlinger... I think I read that post before and didn't quite get the full understanding of it.... I grasp now that you can only restore a 2.2 with a 3.0.0.4 CWR.
EDIT: MUSTKll20... Well, you were right... This is not ROM specific. I tried Re-Flashing RC3, which previously worked fine. Now, since I have CWModRec 3.0.0.5, I need to use a 2.3 ROM.... So I thought I would start with this idea. So, I guess, I need to get whatever is corrupt deleted... So my only question thus remains: How do I wipe everything except the SD from within CWR?
And now that there seems to be a 3.0.0.6 which solves this mismatch trap, why would it not be simpler just to reflash the CM7 RC4, then update CWMod, then just see if my original force close issue is even still occurring, and if so, then I would flash/install eng. HBOOT, "Wipe Everything except SD" (btw, does CW have a selection for that? Is that factory reset? Or will a factory reset wipe my SD.... because obviously that would be bad)
I don't really now how to wipe the internal... Except if I had a terminal and used dd, but as much as I am comfortable with Linux, I still do not understand how the SD and the ROM are separated and why, and how, and what shell commands do what to each....
AND THANKS AGAIN SO MUCH YOU GUYS FOR TAKING TIME TO ANSWER MY CRISIS-INFUSED QUESTIONS!
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OK... and neidlinger... I think I read that post before and didn't quite get the full understanding of it.... I grasp now that you can only restore a 2.2 with a 3.0.0.4 CWR.
And now that there seems to be a 3.0.0.6 which solves this mismatch trap, why would it not be simpler just to reflash the CM7 RC4, then update CWMod, then just see if my original force close issue is even still occurring, and if so, then I would flash/install eng. HBOOT, "Wipe Everything except SD" (btw, does CW have a selection for that? Is that factory reset? Or will a factory reset wipe my SD.... because obviously that would be bad)
I don't really now how to wipe the internal... Except if I had a terminal and used dd, but as much as I am comfortable with Linux, I still do not understand how the SD and the ROM are separated and why, and how, and what shell commands do what to each....
AND THANKS AGAIN SO MUCH YOU GUYS FOR TAKING TIME TO ANSWER MY CRISIS-INFUSED QUESTIONS!
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You can flash CM7RC4, and install 3.0.0.6. That's pretty much the only way you can fix it..
and android phone have a method of using a section of the SD card for their memory banks. I'm not really sure how it works either, but it does. You can wipe the internal w/o wiping the SDcard.
Wiping the phone from with in the recovery image will not touch the SDcard, it will only wipe the internal. You can format the SD card from the Recovery Image, but i'll leave that dog sleep so we do not it accidentally.
last little clean-up question.
Sorry to bump this... last LAST question...
Mustkll20: I realized that you were correct to suggest to wipe everything except the SD... Something is corrupt.
But I am not real sure exactly how to wipe EVERYTHING except the SD, from within CW recovery... Since that is the only mode I have available to me. Once I wipe, I will reinstall CM RC3, then update Clockworkmod Recovery to 3.0.0.6, and then try and download RC4 again using another method, and re-flashing.
I would trial and error this, but do not want to wipe the SD.
Thanks guys... seriously.
You can flash CM7RC4, and install 3.0.0.6. That's pretty much the only way you can fix it..
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I didn't see your reply... ummm. and I do need to wipe.. Because I have tried to re-flash both RC3 and RC4, and I get what must be a "bootloop": During the CM splash, it stops and then reboots---over and over. It never did that before.... so my problem is something else...
I don't know what else there is besides the SD and the ROM, but whatever it is, I need to delete it. So should I do a factory reset???
Also, are you sure you are holding the volume down and pressing power to boot into recovery? The result you described is what happens when you hold the volume up and press power.
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Also, are you sure you are holding the volume down and pressing power to boot into recovery? The result you described is what happens when you hold the volume up and press power.
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Yep... I know the thread is not for thrillseekers (i.e., its boring), but I mention that I discovered this phenomenon... so I really wasn't in all that bad a spot to begin with.
I still need to figure out how to fix my current problem.... all CM RCs (I can only flash 2.3 ROMs because of CW 3.0.0.5) go into what I guess is a bootloop. In other words, they do not ever boot, just crash and restart. And the RC3 ROM I used worked fine before this... so something else is causing this problem. I need to wipe everything I guess, but I just don't know how... without touching the SD card and from within Clockwork Recovery.
Ok. Go into recovery.
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. wipe cache partition
Both of these are on the main screen.
Go to advanced
3. Wipe Davlik Cache
Go back to main screen
Go into mounts and storage
4. format boot
5. format system
Try all of that. It will not touch your sd card. After doing this flash the ROM again. Keep us updated and good luck.
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Ok. Go into recovery.
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Try all of that. It will not touch your sd card. After doing this flash the ROM again. Keep us updated and good luck.
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Thank you for the concise and thorough response!!!!!!! Id thank you, but have used up my allotment. get ya tommorow!!
And it worked! Thank you!
But.... ummm.... there is no market app. I would think the CM ROM would have this, but apparently it doesn't. I need to install Ti, etc. to restore all my apps.
Does anyone have a download link or at least a version # that is appropriate?
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And it worked! Thank you!
But.... ummm.... there is no market app. I would think the CM ROM would have this, but apparently it doesn't. I need to install Ti, etc. to restore all my apps.
Does anyone have a download link or at least a version # that is appropriate?
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You can thank the Google c&d order for that. Go to cyanogenmod.com. there is a link there for the gapps zip.
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OK... I thoght Gapps.zip was just Google Docs. Luckily, I had that on my SD card from one of my many ROM downloads. I see why they had to make it separate.
But I am installing it, and everything is great... And I learned a lot too... Which can only mean trouble.
Thanks!
I am having some serious issues with my evo. I have tried 10 different methods, googled 100 different help guides and still no fix.
I had originally rooted my phone using simple root and put the "fixed" froyo rom on there. Everything worked fine, but I was outdated and having some really slow issues so I wanted to try a new rom...Fresh.
Well I tried a few methods, but I somehow reverted my evo back to a nonroot of the original OS. Whenever i go into hboot, my recovery does not work. I push the PC36img and load it, then restart then I attempt to go to my recovery where it gives me the error picture with the yellow/red triangle. I then select recovery (after pressing UP volume and powerbutton) and try to load update from sd card. Everytime I do that I get a Failed error.
I've tried to reroot using several methods off this website, I've done everything I can to get it working but can't. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Try reflashing your recovery image.
BTW I have hboot 79.0 with S-ON, so it looks like I def became unrooted.
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BTW I have hboot 79.0 with S-ON, so it looks like I def became unrooted.
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Not sure how it would have just unrooted itself. I would run an RUU from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Then, I would re-root and start clean again.
Heaterz16 said:
Try reflashing your recovery image.
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I have a recovery-ra.img, how do I tell it to flash it?
I pulled up this list of recovery files, is there a particular one I should use?
htt p://goo-inside.me/amon_ra/supersonic/
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Not sure how it would have just unrooted itself. I would run an RUU from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884060
Then, I would re-root and start clean again.
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Ok I downloaded the top item:
RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed
Ran the exe, surprisingly picked up my phone and started the image update. My phone restarted and it forced closed the app on my computer. Now I have a new HTC logo for about 5 min on my phone not doing anything. Should I wait it out or restart my phone?
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Ok I downloaded the top item:
RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.70.651.1_Radio_2.15.00.11.19_NV_1.90_release_161482_signed
Ran the exe, surprisingly picked up my phone and started the image update. My phone restarted and it forced closed the app on my computer. Now I have a new HTC logo for about 5 min on my phone not doing anything. Should I wait it out or restart my phone?
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I would have waited about ten minutes then restarted the phone. If the phone is stuck at the HTC logo, then I would go ahead and re-run the RUU.
Let me know how it turns out.
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I would have waited about ten minutes then restarted the phone. If the phone is stuck at the HTC logo, then I would go ahead and re-run the RUU.
Let me know how it turns out.
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ok, finally got it working. Had to restart the phone manually and try it on a different computer. It updated it to the newer version of android and hboot, thank goodness! That was the easiest and most productive thing I've been able to do so far, thanks!
Well now I try to boot into recovery and get the same error:
can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then I get :
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
When i try to load update from sdcard
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ok, finally got it working. Had to restart the phone manually and try it on a different computer. It updated it to the newer version of android and hboot, thank goodness! That was the easiest and most productive thing I've been able to do so far, thanks!
Well now I try to boot into recovery and get the same error:
can't open /cache/recovery/command
Then I get :
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
When i try to load update from sdcard
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Ok, so, I think you said you got the RUU working which would have completely restored the phone to unrooted and stock from factory.
Now, you need to re-root your phone using one of the methods on xda. I used the manual method here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045. However, many people have had success with the one-click methods.
After you re-root (which will likely included installing a recovery), select a rom you want to try, boot to recovery, wipe and flash it. A great starter ROM is MikFroyo 4.6 or 4.5.
Try downloading the PC36IMG.zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
put that on the root of your SD card, then boot into HBOOT and it should find that PC36IMG.zip after a few seconds and ask if you want to flash it. Choose yes and let it finish. Should then be able to reboot into recovery.
ok thanks, i'll try it when I get back home
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Try downloading the PC36IMG.zip from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
put that on the root of your SD card, then boot into HBOOT and it should find that PC36IMG.zip after a few seconds and ask if you want to flash it. Choose yes and let it finish. Should then be able to reboot into recovery.
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Ok, I tried this method...the filesize of pc36img.zip is only 3.5mb, but it didn't seem to work. It scanned the file then just went back to the hboot screen with my options never asking to flash.
I'm going to try to reroot using the other method now...
So I clicked the link and he forwarded to the autoroot.bat page so I used his method. It worked well (the 2nd time around) all the way until it started to push amon_ra_1.8-mod.... then after that it says rebooting into the bootloader, and it reboots into it and just says waiting for phone...
It does appear that my phone is rooted now, but my recovery is still not working. If I use ROM manager will it work since my phone is rooted or do I need to have a rooted ROM to run it off of?
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So I clicked the link and he forwarded to the autoroot.bat page so I used his method. It worked well (the 2nd time around) all the way until it started to push amon_ra_1.8-mod.... then after that it says rebooting into the bootloader, and it reboots into it and just says waiting for phone...
It does appear that my phone is rooted now, but my recovery is still not working. If I use ROM manager will it work since my phone is rooted or do I need to have a rooted ROM to run it off of?
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Does your phone show s-off while in the bootloader? If so you should be able to run the FlashZip script and use that to flash the pc36img-sprintlovers zip. That one contains everything needed to bring your phone up to date and will leave you with a rooted rom and recovery.
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xHausx said:
Does your phone show s-off while in the bootloader? If so you should be able to run the FlashZip script and use that to flash the pc36img-sprintlovers zip. That one contains everything needed to bring your phone up to date and will leave you with a rooted rom and recovery.
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FINALLY! Thanks a million! My recovery is now working and it installed the built in sprinter lovers rom, I guess the anti-virus was stopping it so I disabled it and ran the flash script. I was able to install Fresh on there, just to try it out. I do have a few questions though:
1. I noticed after going through many pages that to update to a newer ROM version you don't always have to wipe clean, you can just install (or flash) the new update? I noticed in Fresh there is a built in app that does that. Is this true for most ROMS or only certain ones?
2. I assume I am using the RA recovery. I noticed the backup/restore feature on there. What exactly does that backup and when should I use it?
3. I've noticed I've been very low with memory on my phone (not SD card), I have about 258MB free. How can I clear space and when I mount my phone what files are important to keep and can I get rid of, is it okay to get rid of my rom.zip's and radio.zip's?
Thanks again to everyone, autoroot was def the most painless root ever.
noweakness said:
FINALLY! Thanks a million! My recovery is now working and it installed the built in sprinter lovers rom, I guess the anti-virus was stopping it so I disabled it and ran the flash script. I was able to install Fresh on there, just to try it out. I do have a few questions though:
1. I noticed after going through many pages that to update to a newer ROM version you don't always have to wipe clean, you can just install (or flash) the new update? I noticed in Fresh there is a built in app that does that. Is this true for most ROMS or only certain ones?
2. I assume I am using the RA recovery. I noticed the backup/restore feature on there. What exactly does that backup and when should I use it?
3. I've noticed I've been very low with memory on my phone (not SD card), I have about 258MB free. How can I clear space and when I mount my phone what files are important to keep and can I get rid of, is it okay to get rid of my rom.zip's and radio.zip's?
Thanks again to everyone, autoroot was def the most painless root ever.
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1) You'll want to always wipe your cache/dalvik (I do everytime I'm in the recovery) but the Data depends on the ROM. Usually if you are going from one sense rom to another you are ok and the same for AOSP to AOSP. Going from Sense to AOSP you'll need to wipe data though.
2) Autoroot comes with a modified version of AmonRA, they are mostly just speed tweaks. To make a complete backup of your ROM select Boot (kernel), System (ROM), Data (Apps & Settings) and .android (apps on SD card)
3) You can delete the zips from your sd card if you don't need them but that's about normal for free memory.