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Anyone Tried the Touch IT WM6.5 Project?

Guys,
Anyone tried the above found in the Rom Development Section of this forum?
How is the feedback and is it worthwhile to use this ROM instead of the default WM6.1 R2AA?

awesome
i am trying it now and its just great!
coul be a little slow in some places but i have never had to soft reset for any reason i didnt invoke . its surprisingly stable and compatible with everything. i was even able to sync with activesync and also my emails even though ppl complained about these 2 issues.
Best thing abt 6.5 is its user friendlyness (honeycomb) and that its way more finger friendly than 6.1 (kinetic ihphone like scrolling EVERYWHERE - even in programs,,,, and larger better looking buttons also EVERYWHERE!!)
be sure to flash hardspl first and enjoy this great ROM!!

khalilsemaan said:
i am trying it now and its just great!
coul be a little slow in some places but i have never had to soft reset for any reason i didnt invoke . its surprisingly stable and compatible with everything. i was even able to sync with activesync and also my emails even though ppl complained about these 2 issues.
Best thing abt 6.5 is its user friendlyness (honeycomb) and that its way more finger friendly than 6.1 (kinetic ihphone like scrolling EVERYWHERE - even in programs,,,, and larger better looking buttons also EVERYWHERE!!)
be sure to flash hardspl first and enjoy this great ROM!!
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Oh, thanks for your feedback.
It seems great too and I am tempted to give it a try though.

khalilsemaan said:
i am trying it now and its just great!
coul be a little slow in some places but i have never had to soft reset for any reason i didnt invoke . its surprisingly stable and compatible with everything. i was even able to sync with activesync and also my emails even though ppl complained about these 2 issues.
Best thing abt 6.5 is its user friendlyness (honeycomb) and that its way more finger friendly than 6.1 (kinetic ihphone like scrolling EVERYWHERE - even in programs,,,, and larger better looking buttons also EVERYWHERE!!)
be sure to flash hardspl first and enjoy this great ROM!!
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If I want to flash back the stock ROM, does that mean that I need to download the stock ROM image from the HardSPL thread and do the same image updating.
After it has been updated then update the ROM via SEUS to the latest R2AA ROM?

chongbh said:
Oh, thanks for your feedback.
It seems great too and I am tempted to give it a try though.
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Hey fellow Singaporean
I'm using the itje's 6.5 Rom. I love it. Prefer Titanium than the TouchFlo. Though I wished WinMo would've put an options on how to view the menu. I prefer normal grid alignments than the honeycomb. But all in all, love the rom.

theredundant said:
Hey fellow Singaporean
I'm using the itje's 6.5 Rom. I love it. Prefer Titanium than the TouchFlo. Though I wished WinMo would've put an options on how to view the menu. I prefer normal grid alignments than the honeycomb. But all in all, love the rom.
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Hi, you are a Singaporean too.
Thanks for your feedback.
I am doing the ROM update now so that thread do not have the titanium, right?

chongbh said:
Hi, you are a Singaporean too.
Thanks for your feedback.
I am doing the ROM update now so that thread do not have the titanium, right?
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It has what it states in his thread just like in his screenshots.

theredundant said:
It has what it states in his thread just like in his screenshots.
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Thanks. I forget how to install the theme?
And which folder I have to put in so that the WM6.5 able to read the background pictures?

just installed it few hours ago.. the today screen is somewhat laggy.. applications are somewhat hard to reach. wm 6.5 dont have weather and programs tab for commonly used apps.. having problems with active sync (email)
my rating would be 6.5/10

chongbh said:
Thanks. I forget how to install the theme?
And which folder I have to put in so that the WM6.5 able to read the background pictures?
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I just have mine put in "My Pictures" or something and it'd auto detect. I just changed my wallpaper though.

theredundant said:
I just have mine put in "My Pictures" or something and it'd auto detect. I just changed my wallpaper though.
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Oh, what wallpapers you using cos I want to change the default wallpaper too, thanks.
I have seen someone posted a thread here on Xperia wallpaper but when I put into the phone, it is not able to detect either a theme file or a picture file, not sure any step I have missed?

I found out that there is the battery indicator bug as it is not updating the status from the battery so decided to go back to original R2AA ROM first.

Why do we need a separate thread to discuss this? I've suggested a potential fix for the battery bug in the official thread...

akp99 said:
Why do we need a separate thread to discuss this? I've suggested a potential fix for the battery bug in the official thread...
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Sorry for the duplicate thread as I am trying to gather some response and help from those who have installed the same ROM.
I have reply you back for the location of the battery indicator fix?

Ahh I had it but I kinda hated it...
Its laggy everywhere and I really really hope that Microsoft won't release the OS as it is.
I'm changing back to nX1i 1.04...

Flip Clock "Problem"

Hi all.
I am having a wierd problem with my flip clock on the home screen.
When i open anything and go back to the home screen the clock shows a time 1 hour before my time and then flip to my time.
i have uploaded a small 20 sec clip to show what I mean since i don't think i am explaining it properly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81G5nlFJSxg

sv452 said:
Hi all.
I am having a wierd problem with my flip clock on the home screen.
When i open anything and go back to the home screen the clock shows a time 1 hour before my time and then flip to my time.
i have uploaded a small 20 sec clip to show what I mean since i don't think i am explaining it properly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81G5nlFJSxg
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Though this may seem strange, annoying, obnoxious...this is actually supposed to be a cool "feature" by HTC -- simulated excessive digit-flipping.
Someone has posted what seems to be a fix for this "feature" on NRG's Photon thread on the rom-development sub-forum.

MCbrian said:
Though this may seem strange, annoying, obnoxious...this is actually supposed to be a cool "feature" by HTC -- simulated excessive digit-flipping.
Someone has posted what seems to be a fix for this "feature" on NRG's Photon thread on the rom-development sub-forum.
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THANX for the reply ...
that is the most silly feature ever ... hehehehehehehe ... i think at least they should allow it to be turned on and off ...
man this has been driving me nuts. . .
I will check it out and comment if it worked or not.

sv452 said:
THANX for the reply ...
that is the most silly feature ever ... hehehehehehehe ... i think at least they should allow it to be turned on and off ...
man this has been driving me nuts. . .
I will check it out and comment if it worked or not.
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Some people who have tried it say it works. It didn't work for me...but I'm running a WM6.5.1-based ROM with Manila 2.5, so maybe however this fix works...doesn't work for my system.

I'd love to get rid of this too............. gunna try the "fix" but I am sure I not only don't know how to do it, since I have the newest and latest photon ROM it won't work.

This didn't work for me on the OEM AT&T ROM

You can swipe up to make the large clock away, and show a smaller clock (in portrait view), but then the large clock still shows in landscape. Suggestions for ways around this? There doesn't seem to be a built-in setting to change this. Any quick CABs or reg edits, aside from installing a different clock?

redpoint73 said:
You can swipe up to make the large clock away, and show a smaller clock (in portrait view), but then the large clock still shows in landscape. Suggestions for ways around this? There doesn't seem to be a built-in setting to change this. Any quick CABs or reg edits, aside from installing a different clock?
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This is a completely different topic. Please create your own thread for that.

Worked for me. NRG's leo rom. Make sure you disable manilla before copying file into windows. Great!!

This clock-flipping thing seems odd to me, because I've never seen it on my own phone (running UK Vodafone stock ROM).
Does this mean I'm likely going to gain this "feature" when I flash a different new ROM (e.g. one of the ones from the chefs here) ?

i tried but it did not work ... demmit !
thought as much but worth a try anyway ... so we keep on searching ...

thanks
that file worked for me.
topaz; wm 6.5 official rus

Worked for me ...... Cheers

Works for me in my latest Manilla 2.1 rom.

as i can see most people comes back negative with this solution.. so do i..
not a good thing this bloody flipping flopping clock.. so will anybody come up with more successful solution on this one? i'll donate for the one who does
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WWE Touch-IT ROM with SENSE 2.5

Worked like a charm on Topaz official french rom 2.16. Thanks !

I take absolutely no credit for this. I just can't find the thread anymore. This works on my stock AT&T ROM Tilt2 with TF3D 2.1.

jcterry said:
I take absolutely no credit for this. I just can't find the thread anymore. This works on my stock AT&T ROM Tilt2 with TF3D 2.1.
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Works perfectly on my Leo .. Thnx a million!

just run on stock rom works a treat

[ROM][03.03.10] Touch-IT BL (SUPPORT ENDED AT XDA)

Touch-IT Black Leo HD2 - v4.0​
I am removing my roms due to conflicts with certain members at xda, this looks like it cant be solved in normal ways. And because I do not want anymore of the bickering and fighting, I am pulling my work from XDA and all support is moved to you know where. I cant even mention that name anymore here.
Sorry to see this happen here, where I have learned so much, and met so many wonderful ppl. I can only quote my own sig:
"Don’t argue with Idiots.. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience"

Here is your DL link​
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I recommend using the 2.08 radio with this rom (not included)​

How to flash a custom rom using HSPL​
Go to this thread​
I take no responsebility for any errors you do with this procedure, its on your own risk ​

flash flash flash....damn i'm an addict lol..i'm downloadin it now

KUDOS!
Hello, really thanx for this great job, going to flash immediately and than will see

downloading... thx!

Thanks itje. I was itching for a NEW ROM, and you delivered with the 6.5.X build, which I love due to the Threaded emails.
Downloading now and will report soon.
ceers.

flashing now
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ooh yeah, i can touch it now!..lol
this rom seems reall fast!, not sure its too stable cuz i just got 2 lockups with the screen not respondin and the hw keys workin. but appart from that, everything else seems to be workin fine thus far thanks!
and btw, the core player isnt workin, so i'll just install the one i hav
manila froze when i was browsing thru the weather animations

20/16 shortcuts
can i use some 20 or 16 shortcuts cab on this rom without problems ????

-Build 23518
hi itje,i installed it and it doesent say the build you said mate [Build 23518]it says 5.2.23515(23515.5.5.0)

Lizzo said:
flashing now
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ooh yeah, i can touch it now!..lol
this rom seems reall fast!, not sure its too stable cuz i just got 2 lockups with the screen not respondin and the hw keys workin. but appart from that, everything else seems to be workin fine thus far thanks!
and btw, the core player isnt workin, so i'll just install the one i hav
manila froze when i was browsing thru the weather animations
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The Core Player is working fine for me.

ops, coreplayer should not be in there, gotta recook and up again. (coreplayer needs edit in settings to work though, set video output to GDI)
Use radio 2.06 with this rom, that will give best results
I have used this rom heavily past few days, and had no lockups whatsoever.
The build is released with ce os 5.2.23515 (build 23518.5.5.0) check this in settings/system/About I know that in (manila)settings/about phone/software info, it say 23515. This is just the way this build was leaked out, and it really dont matter. The OS is 23518 as I said

thanks mate

Lizzo said:
flashing now
*Edit*
ooh yeah, i can touch it now!..lol
this rom seems reall fast!, not sure its too stable cuz i just got 2 lockups with the screen not respondin and the hw keys workin. but appart from that, everything else seems to be workin fine thus far thanks!
and btw, the core player isnt workin, so i'll just install the one i hav
manila froze when i was browsing thru the weather animations
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try a hard reset if freezing continues. Did you flash the 2.06 radio rom?
see my answer abouve this one for the coreplayer. (this I should have noticed, its not supposed to be in the rom, due to license)

itje said:
ops, coreplayer should not be in there, gotta recook and up again. (coreplayer needs edit in settings to work though, set video output to GDI)
Use radio 2.06 with this rom, that will give best results
I have used this rom heavily past few days, and had no lockups whatsoever.
The build is released with ce os 5.2.23515 (build 23518.5.5.0) check this in settings/system/About I know that in (manila)settings/about phone/software info, it say 23515. This is just the way this build was leaked out, and it really dont matter. The OS is 23518 as I said
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i'll change to that radio and let u kno

Great release itje.
The ROM feels smooth and stable. But not as fast, I'm talking specific to scrolling in cntacts, etc.
The only small consmetic issue I see is, While in lock screen, The Time that shows up... The digits for the seconds are cut off on the top. Really strange though....
This is a keeper for me until something better comes up

VizagDude said:
Great release itje.
The ROM feels smooth and stable. But not as fast, I'm talking specific to scrolling in cntacts, etc.
The only small consmetic issue I see is, While in lock screen, The Time that shows up... The digits for the seconds are cut off on the top. Really strange though....
This is a keeper for me until something better comes up
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Hm, weird, scrolling in contacts is very fast for me.
in lockscreen I have no issues, (besides that calendar icons that shows up in theese builds) here is mine right now:

I should have specified. I use a cab where the Silde to lock comes to the bottom of the screen and the Time goes on top of the screen.
Below is the screen shot, Look at the #2, you would notice better. Again, probably to do with the CAB, but I did not see this in anyother ROM.
Please dont get me wrong... not a big deal at all...

VizagDude said:
I should have specified. I use a cab where the Silde to lock comes to the bottom of the screen and the Time goes on top of the screen.
Below is the screen shot, Look at the #2, you would notice better. Again, probably to do with the CAB, but I did not see this in anyother ROM.
Please dont get me wrong... not a big deal at all...
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ah, ok ..please dont report bugs if mods are installed..as in thsi cause. If you do, please always write what mods is used, cause its timeconsuming to look for bugs reported in my rom that comes from mods.
Besides that, what builds have you used it on before? have you tested the mod on 23518 before? or on roms based on 2.02 leo rom?

I am trying to download but the link seems to be broken!

HD2: Not for texting! D:

you'd think HTC would have thought these devices through a little more, yeah? NO.
seeing as how i can't send a text message without a five second delay. i can't receive a text message without my phone freezing for ten. and god forbid i try and view one message while receiving another one, right?
also consider: the 1ghz processor, 16gb harddrive, 1024mb rom (on some devices), and this thing can't go five minutes without a hiccup? what the hell? D:
maybe my phone is just a screwed copy, but **** n' seriously. i just want to be able to have eye candy that operates decently. i thought that's what the HD2 was for, but it was a huge let down for me.
now, until HTC gets their crap in order and creates a better text engine, or someone ports android over to the HD2, guess what guys? we're F&%KED.
so, enlighten me, xda friendlies. are there additional text engines for the HD2? different programs to use, for faster typing and flawless send/receive features? cause until then, i'm inserting my sim card into my iPhone, as much as i hate apple itself with a burning passion, at least it texts somewhat better.
cause seriously, if i can't even stand to use my own phone, what the hell is the point?
intelligent responses only, go take your immaturities somewhere else.

Have you tried a Custom ROM?

At least try the new upgrade
If your not ready for custom ROM (like me) try the upgrade.
Worked for me, resolving apparently (its still early) all of my previous problems with the phone- like yours.
Good luck. I think this is a good machine, just has a few bugs- thats normal.

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secano said:
Have you tried a Custom ROM?
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i've tried Energyrom GTX version. fully updated. and i didn't like it.
it came with a crap load of extras, and i liked that, but the text messaging was back to the version before the HD2, the very same i dealt with on the TP2. didn't like it for some reason.
are there any custom roms that you approve of? if so, please, link me to the page so i can test them out for myself. and thanks in advance.
tcoots said:
If your not ready for custom ROM (like me) try the upgrade.
Worked for me, resolving apparently (its still early) all of my previous problems with the phone- like yours.
Good luck. I think this is a good machine, just has a few bugs- thats normal.
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great machine. too buggy of an OS. not saying others are flawless, but i'd rather not have the only flaws in it related to the major thing i do with the phone. and i have upgraded to the rom that t-moUS release just a week ago. it's still pretty slow for me, considering my fingers move too fast for the keyboard to pick up on. i've already registry edited the lengthymessage thread, making it so the cache is always enabled, and somewhat speeding the system up a little bit when viewing the message itself. but typing is still very slow, and it's driven me up three walls, and back again.
does the text system and keyboard operate faster when SenseUI is disabled, using only the homescreen? cause if so, maybe i can deal with that, too. sense is nice, but not everything.

Try the upgraded ROM. I didnt have that much trouble but it has improved immensely! I can run CHT Again!

Yeah, try the upgrade. I am a major texter, and the new client works perfectly for me.

i have never had an issue with texting on my hd2, i went from the stock shiped to the upgraded 2.13 and never had an issue, now using elegancia 8.5 and still no issues.

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Try the upgraded ROM. I didnt have that much trouble but it has improved immensely! I can run CHT Again!
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okay, i will try it as soon as i can find it, how's that? i just downloaded what i thought was the newest ROM for the USHD2, and it's still as bad as wm6.1 on the Touch Pro 2.
jdwrrzmm said:
Yeah, try the upgrade. I am a major texter, and the new client works perfectly for me.
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once again, what ROM. show me a link and a ROM update version, and i'll let you kno if i haven't already downloaded that.
ericm115 said:
i have never had an issue with texting on my hd2, i went from the stock shiped to the upgraded 2.13 and never had an issue, now using elegancia 8.5 and still no issues.
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i'm gonna check that ROM out tomorrow, and get back to you if it helps me. but tell me, do you kno the difference between the "htc messaging" and "non-htc messaging" versions? which one is gonna be faster whith sending and receiving, as well as typing? please, and thank you very much, you guys.

just saying..
THANK YOU, YOU GUYS!
i know i'm not the only poor guy out there suffering from bad HD2 messaging. so this is helping more than just me. =]
PLEASE! keep the answers coming.​

To be more specific its rom upgrade 2.13, I assume youre still on the stock rom, the new tmous rom upgrade is 2.13, I myself have a custom rom, cleanex uniQ and it comes with the new messaging client and it also doesnt have the junk load of apps on it either just google rom upgrade 2.13, and im sure youll be satisfied with the text messaging I know I am, hope this helps a little buddy

ijoshv2 said:
i've tried Energyrom GTX version. fully updated. and i didn't like it.
it came with a crap load of extras, and i liked that, but the text messaging was back to the version before the HD2, the very same i dealt with on the TP2. didn't like it for some reason.
are there any custom roms that you approve of? if so, please, link me to the page so i can test them out for myself. and thanks in advance.
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On the first page of the thread he offers addon cabs. One of the cabs is original HD2 messenger which works perfect.

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To be more specific its rom upgrade 2.13, I assume youre still on the stock rom, the new tmous rom upgrade is 2.13, I myself have a custom rom, cleanex uniQ and it comes with the new messaging client and it also doesnt have the junk load of apps on it either just google rom upgrade 2.13, and im sure youll be satisfied with the text messaging I know I am, hope this helps a little buddy
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for future clarification..
MY ROM IS T-MOus 2.13.531.1. =]
ddgarcia05 said:
On the first page of the thread he offers addon cabs. One of the cabs is original HD2 messenger which works perfect.
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alright, i will check the energyrom page again and investigate. but if i go with energyrom, i would choose the second version which has the taskbar at the bottom of the screen. hopefully this, as well, has the messenger that i need.

i would just divert back to 2.10 which you can get from xmoo's stock ROM thread. 2.13 had me to the point where i wanted to throw my phone at the wall. its incredibly easy to downgrade. an although i gotta be deleting txt after every 20 from a contact.. id rather deal with that then have an extremey slow freezing 2.13 messaging app. i agree with you that its shameful that such a hardware capable phone has such a ****ty messaging app

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i would just divert back to 2.10 which you can get from xmoo's stock ROM thread. 2.13 had me to the point where i wanted to throw my phone at the wall. its incredibly easy to downgrade. an although i gotta be deleting txt after every 20 from a contact.. id rather deal with that then have an extremey slow freezing 2.13 messaging app. i agree with you that its shameful that such a hardware capable phone has such a ****ty messaging app
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thank you for seeing this as well, my friend. but keep in mind. i'm a texter. i like keeping my messages. i have a 516 message chain with my girlfriend. and i eventually clear them out, but not willingly. i shouldn't have to clean out my text messages to make my phone operate smoothly. so a good suggestion, but not for me. thanks =]

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okay so, i tried out the energyrom with cookie's hometab, and the rom works quite well. ocassionally freezes and needs a reboot, and i wish they could fix that, but it's in progress, so i'm not gonna complain too much. i downloaded the ADDON text message program he included under the addons and fixes link, and the messaging is soo much more fluid. no delays, doesn't matter how many messages i have, and i like it. it's missing the spell check feature, which i liked alot, but i can just be more careful with my spelling, and it'll work for now.
but i have yet another problem! when i receive a mms, the message comes in suuuper small, and it's not the picture either. i would fwd a 260kb photo to myself, and it'll come in at 5kb. not cool, i need that fixed. and also, the mms messaging says the limit is 300K. why is that? i thought t-mobile upped the mms size to 1024K i need that fixed, too. so if anyone has some good intel, please, comment this thread and help us all out!
THANK YOU GUYS!

Yup ROM upgrade 2.13 fixed my texting lag issues.

ijoshv2 said:
but i have yet another problem! when i receive a mms, the message comes in suuuper small, and it's not the picture either. i would fwd a 260kb photo to myself, and it'll come in at 5kb. not cool, i need that fixed. and also, the mms messaging says the limit is 300K. why is that? i thought t-mobile upped the mms size to 1024K i need that fixed, too. so if anyone has some good intel, please, comment this thread and help us all out!
THANK YOU GUYS!
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Confirmed for "suuuper small" pic fix for Energy ROMS. Cab provided below.
Page 32, post 313. Link to page in Energy thread

I text using the phone key pad.. I know most of you think im nuts, but give me a phone with actuall keys and I will out type and spell all of you who use a query or full keboard, i cant stand those two types, anyway stock ROM the typing was awesome I could type almost as fast as on a button phone.
Did the rom update last night, now i have to go at half speed, its terrible.
Phone buttons cant keep up, or will lock up.

If your that heavy into texting get one for the HTC Messaging disabled roms. I run Kumars premium V2.0 and I have had it on there for almost a month now with no issues and no texts deleted which means i have over 2000 on the device and it doesn't freeze

jdl1681 said:
If your that heavy into texting get one for the HTC Messaging disabled roms. I run Kumars premium V2.0 and I have had it on there for almost a month now with no issues and no texts deleted which means i have over 2000 on the device and it doesn't freeze
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The Energy roms do not come with the HTC messenger, he added it because he wanted. I couldn't agree with you more about using the windows messenger. It works great when you get it threaded. (start>settings>systems>sms threading)

Alarm none functioning after Vovichek_Jamrecords_20shcut_m2525.cab

Noticed this after updating to official WWE 3.14.
The Alarm Clock shortcut on the Home Tab stops working with the Vovichek cab installed.
This is a real pain cos I really would like more than the stock 9 quick-links, so if anyone knows a fix for this, or another simple method (reg-hack) to increase quick-links it would be great.
I've already tried Co0kie.HomeTab_v2.0.0.cab, but do not want the other stuff it installs.
Thanks.

BetterRed said:
Noticed this after updating to official WWE 3.14.
The Alarm Clock shortcut on the Home Tab stops working with the Vovichek cab installed.
This is a real pain cos I really would like more than the stock 9 quick-links, so if anyone knows a fix for this, or another simple method (reg-hack) to increase quick-links it would be great.
I've already tried Co0kie.HomeTab_v2.0.0.cab, but do not want the other stuff it installs.
Thanks.
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Go to the link below and check out #22 in the list I think this is what you are looking for.
A little looking around on your own would have found this though as this is a stickie in the HD2 Windows Mobile Q&A and General forum.

That cab has been around for a looong loooong time and was created from an outdated version of manila which is probably why its causing issues.
I recall having problems with that cab myself a while ago. If you find after uninstalling it that your alarm still does not work, you may need to hard reset.
The tip suggested by T-Macgnolia should solve your problem though.
If not, even though you may not like the way CHT makes your home screen look by default, it is possible to change the settings to make your home screen look completely like a stock rom but with more quicklinks.
Personally I cant understand how anyone can use manila without CHT
Thats just me though.... Im a fanboy

Hey go check this out too, "CHT2 Widget SimClock v3",http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985818 it is for CHT and looks pretty dang awesome. When I go back to Win Mo I am going to try it out

T-Macgnolia said:
Hey go check this out too, "CHT2 Widget SimClock v3",http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=985818 it is for CHT and looks pretty dang awesome. When I go back to Win Mo I am going to try it out
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I'm using it and I can confirm it's awesomeness.....
It literally does EVERYTHING!
Fully skinnable too, if you like that sort of thing.,
Sent from my fingers to your face...

Thanks for the replies.
Maybe i didn't give CHT the time it deserves - just installed and uninstalled.
Will try again - the clock widget looks smart as well.