I have a US T-Mobile G1, but am in Belgium, and we don't have T network here...
is the update coming to the devices, regardless of the network they're registered on, or do I really need to be in the US, on a T-Mobile network, to get the update?
Anyone from Belgium, or somewhere in Europe that has a G1 that is on another network than it was meant for?
Is there (going to be) any means of pulling the update manually, even on another network?
Thanks for sharing the info...
First, is your phone rooted or not?
Second, what firmware/rom are you running?
You do not need to be on T-mobile to get the update. Your phone checks with a server run by google. If there is an update for it it will get sent to your phone. If your phone is rooted it wont update due to running testkeys instead of releasekeys (unless you are running an ADP firmware).
Once the exact location of the file is known you can manually download it and update your phone if you dont want to wait.
Since you say its a US G1 you should be able to get the 1.5 update which should drop sometime between May 11th and the end of the month. Your location may prevent that from happening, however you can just use the zip file that will get posted on this site somewhere if that happens.
First of all, thanks for the quick response.
The phone is not rooted, it's a normal user phone, no hacks, no custom soft...
Current version is 1.1 RC33 126986 with the release keys intact...
I'll wait until the end of the month and see then...
Just need it to get SipDroid running... (www.sipdroid.org) Wanted to make it a 'cordless phone' for my asterisk server running at home...
Thanks for the info and help!
I'll let you know when I get the update.
Just to let you know, I'm currently abroad with my G1 (UK on T-Mobile), with data roaming turned off.
Connected my G1 to the internet over Wifi and the update was detected and downloaded over Wifi. So looks as though it shouldn't matter what you're connected over.
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
saluk said:
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
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I think (thx to xda-develpers ) mine is not rooted right? Then why didn't I got the cupcake or the previous version which is newer than mine :/
Im just curious if i will receive the update OTA or not. I rooted my phone however it states that it is release keys and not test keys. Below is what the About Phone screen looks like
Firmware Version
1.1
kernel Version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #1
Build Number
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-rc33 126986
ota-rel-keys, release-keys
Thanks for the help
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
You should get the OTA updates. I bought a dev phone in december and in January I got the OTA ADP1.1h update. I'm not on T-Mo at all and never have. I am on AT&T and all was well and I would assume you should be too.
ExploreMN said:
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
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I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
neoobs said:
I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I am not saying that Google created it but rather it is hosted on Google Servers, this can't change because the update script pulls the update from Google servers. Maybe in 1.5 it will change but as of 1.1 it still checks Google for the update.
Basically as long as you can reach the google address it all will update.
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
menov321 said:
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
bakgwailo said:
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
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Where did you get your info? We had tons of users getting the update OTA for the 1.1 and even previous 1.0 builds. BTW there are 3 versions of software, 2 by t-mobile, 1 by google. The 2 t-mobile versions are US and UK which have different applications because of the way company each works.
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
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Where did you hear there is a generic google version? So far only the ADP 1.5 has been made available to us, and we only know of the ADP and T-Mobile versions.
There is also this one, cupcake for holiday phone europe
http://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-dream_gfh_eu-ota-147201.ea8cd686.zip
posted here
http://phandroid.com/2009/05/05/official-german-cupcake-url-leaks-for-developers/
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
petko64 said:
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
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That could be because updates were stopped halfway through on one of the updates to make sure they fixed some security holes.
The last update I got before any T-mobile customers and I was on AT&T. I actually pulled the file off my phone and gave it to JesusFreke but by the time he got it the link had already been posted.
I'm contemplating purchasing a new phone. I found a refurbished S4 for $75 and want to buy it, but I need at least 4.4.4 so I can play Pokemon GO. Does anyone know if it can get to 4.4.4 or higher? Also, if so, does it require rooting?
I also read that it's up to the cell phone carriers to allow a higher firmware, so if it's a case of the carrier, does Net10 allow you to get to 4.4.4 or higher?
Which variant of the S4 is it? if it's the international, samsung has 5.1.1 released so you won't have to root it.
you can always root it if the carrier hasn't updated it. which I doubt
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It's not your carrier that matters, it's the carrier which the phone was purchased from that matters.
I actually purchased the S5, T-Mobile is the original carrier, and they have Marshmallow available, however, for whatever reason, I can't get it downloaded. I'm using Net10 as the wireless provider, but when I search for updates via wifi or 4G, it says there are none available (I'm currently on 4.4.2). Any clue what to do? On the phone with T-Mobile now but god knows if they're competent enough to help me.
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I actually purchased the S5, T-Mobile is the original carrier, and they have Marshmallow available, however, for whatever reason, I can't get it downloaded. I'm using Net10 as the wireless provider, but when I search for updates via wifi or 4G, it says there are none available (I'm currently on 4.4.2). Any clue what to do? On the phone with T-Mobile now but god knows if they're competent enough to help me.
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These are the S4 forums, mate.
You started the thread mentioning something about an S4, which now turned into an S5 somehow.
And you can always download the firmware and flash it manually. Or update with Kies.
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I actually purchased the S5, T-Mobile is the original carrier, and they have Marshmallow available, however, for whatever reason, I can't get it downloaded. I'm using Net10 as the wireless provider, but when I search for updates via wifi or 4G, it says there are none available (I'm currently on 4.4.2). Any clue what to do? On the phone with T-Mobile now but god knows if they're competent enough to help me.
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Enter download mode and read off the model number of the S5. If it says anything other than SM-G900T, then that is why you are having issues with the download. Keep in mind that there are Straight Talk and Net10 versions of the S5 available. Both are on 4.4.2 and no upgrades are available other than by installing a custom ROM.
Sorry, I didn't know this was strictly S4. I'm a bit unobservant. But for those who may randomly be brought to this page via Google. I did the update via Samsung Switch for the PC. Google it, should be the first link. Apologies to all for the mixup.