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NO 2.1 we want 2.2 for X10!

2.2 is wonderful! X10 can handle it very well!
let's e-mail to SE to express our idea!

if the x10 can be rooted, does that mean that we technically would be able to run froyo on it ? 2.2

i hope so .

Yeah, i saw some vidoes of 2.2 on youtube and i was left feeling really jealous of the nexus one people that will get it!
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when it comes for my x10 ?

se has promised 2.1 and froyo would take another 4 months ..

jnd16d said:
when it comes for my x10 ?
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we willnever get it without root

look at the company that respect their customers http://www.gsmarena.com/all_the_latest_htc_android_phones_will_get_the_froyo_treatment-news-1674.php after only one day of announcement of the new android ,they announced that all their devices will get it before the end of the year ,(ofcource you all know which company iam talking about )

ok,
froyo looks good, very good.
2.1 in Q2010/4 and 2.2 in Q2011/1 for x10 makes no sense.
That means there are a some reasons why SE could stick to 2.1/Q4:
- SE plans a X10 sucessor for Q4 with froyo (including multitouch)
- google wants to have a clean froyo/hardware base, which could mean all f froyo-devices should have multitouch
- ?
- SE is cool or clever enough (like HTC) and announce 2.2/froyo for all X10 device-classes and cancels the 2.1 update

meta96 said:
froyo looks good, very good.
2.1 in Q2010/4 and 2.2 in Q2011/1 for x10 makes no sense.
That means there are a some reasons why SE could stick to 2.1/Q4:
- SE plans a X10 sucessor for Q4 with froyo (including multitouch)
- google wants to have a clean froyo/hardware base, which could mean all f froyo-devices should have multitouch
- ?
- SE is cool or clever enough (like HTC) and announce 2.2/froyo for all X10 device-classes and cancels the 2.1 update
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from where didi you got your info SE didnot canclled 2.1 never said any thing about 2.2

especially since its just been announced that flash will need 2.2 as a minumum.

hoss_n2 said:
from where didi you got your info SE didnot canclled 2.1 never said any thing about 2.2
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problem is, companies are not as stupid as we sometimes thinks. they just make sometimes the wrong desicions.
the x10 has no multi/dualtouch maybe the big screen & dual/multi was (last year) to expensive/not avaible.
To annouce 2.1 two weeks before google I/O is also very stupid, because everyone knows that 2.2 will come at google I/O
... so there must be a reason, maybe a reason SE knows before (e.g. google wants froyo only on multitouch devices, maybe,
look, there is no HTC Legend in the HTC - 2.2 update list) so SE had to announce 2.1 before google I/O . If this is correct we only can hope ...
Second time in my life i have to thank adobe, because flash 10.1 needs 2.2 and this could change everything.
The X10 devices (mini, etc.) and SE cannot survive beside the desire/nexus without flash ... so next week(s), we will see ...

I sincerely hope that Sony Ericsson Xperia to update to Froyo, because if do not update, Sony will be out of the game.
Consumers are not stupid. Not sell any telephone.
I will never again buy a Sony product.

The truth and we really know this already is that we will not see an official update from Sony to the xperia x10 in 2010.
We really need to face this and realize its just NOT going to happen. I am not being negative just realistic.
Our only hope is for the guys on the development side come up with a way to root the x10 and get it to run froyo. But an official update from Sony is VERY unlikely!

meta96 said:
Second time in my life i have to thank adobe, because flash 10.1 needs 2.2 and this could change everything.
The X10 devices (mini, etc.) and SE cannot survive beside the desire/nexus without flash ... so next week(s), we will see ...
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Yeah, I hope google isn't trying to set a baseline for 2.2+ with multitouch as a requirement.
But I do agree with this. Flash could just save us...
Oh and cmboud, we will see an update from SE this year. The problem is if it is the update we want or not

Maybe it sounds stupid but how about a petition? As long its post on multiple forums we can get lots of people, what you think?I willing to start it,just need someone to write me a good intro for it since my english is not the best as you probably have noticed.

It sounds like a good idea but I'm pretty sure it's something that they already know, of COURSE we want the latest and greatest, that's why we choose this phone most likely.
I don't belive a petition will resolve anything in our favour - if they could announce 2.2 they would - it would sell more handsets!
my .02

On a norwegian mobile site mobilen.no, stated:
HTC say they will make 2.2 available on phones that are launched this year, writes Phandroid.com.
The Sony Ericsson says the long term will make 2.2 available for its Xperia X10 models. Here we are waiting still on version 2.1.
http://mobilen.no/wip4/fullt-godbiter-android-2-2/d.epl?id=44606
How long we (X10 owners) have to wait? *Wondering*

An online petition could be a great thing if we wouldn't talk about SE. What do you think will happen? Where to send this petition?
Send it to SE vie email?
Hmmm let me think we will get an answer like "Thank you for your opinion, try to update your x10 via SEUS...blablabla"
Call the Support and inform them about the petition?
The answer would be something like "Don't believe the internet!! The X10 works fine. Try an Update via SEUS... blablabla"
What should we write into that petition? Give us 2.2?
Answer "There will be an Update to 2.1 in Q4... Thank you"
Fix the battery issues
Answer "Thank you very much for your contact, there will be an update try SEUS... blablabla"
Or better "Battery issues? Don't belive the internet!"
I think it's very poor that such a big company doen't care at all about their customers. If SE doen't come up with some ass kicking updates in the next months this was my last SE device.

Bad News for Xperians!!!! :(

While I was browsing, I found this!!!
http://www.slashgear.com/sony-ericsson-confirm-no-froyo-for-xperia-x10-06123921/
they said there will be no froyo or gingerbread update for the Xperia Line up!!! Ohno!!!

We all know that. It`s confirmed after the announce of the Xperia Arc

wow
that is like news old like 6 months... even sony-ericsson guy on their blog wrote that... becouse they are pushing some new PSP phone... or something like that...

so sadddddd

not dev related, moved to general
Best, DK

SE don't want to update their current android phones because of marketing.
people will have to buy xperia arc to get android 2.3. good for their bussiness. this is how it's work.

propc said:
SE don't want to update their current android phones because of marketing.
people will have to buy xperia arc to get android 2.3. good for their bussiness. this is how it's work.
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That's how it works for them, not necessarily for the rest of the industry.
There are phones with worse hardware than the Xperia series which have been given Android 2.2 updates.
IOTW, they **** on their current customers and profit on them. Nothing else.

Its not everything bad.
We can get all that have 2.2 by root phone and we will get multytouch actually we already get it.
They uploaded firmware with multytouch.

as-mario said:
Its not everything bad.
We can get all that have 2.2 by root phone and we will get multytouch actually we already get it.
They uploaded firmware with multytouch.
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that would be good
please support us,for new fw updates for the X8 and X10 family
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904941

I am for.

What I find most annoying is that SE seems to have forgotten they made the x8 entirely.
I'm not even sure if the x8 is considered "part of the x10 family" or not. I can make semi-informed guesses, but there's no official word to clarify this.

thats bad....

Sony mentioned the x10, mini and mini pro and forgot to mention the X8..??
either they r gonna bring froyo to X8 (which i m think is never gonna happen) or they dont think X8 is important enough to mention..!!

I had tweeted SEAnswers about the Xperia X8 and this is what they had to say, I quote "There may be updates to software, however we will not be upgrading past 2.1 OS".Check the Discussions on their Facebook page, no further updates to the Android version.

So... since the x8 was originally intended to launch with 2.1, this pretty much makes the life-span of this particular device... Dead on Arrival.
It's a fine device, but the policy that comes with it is just utter rubbish.

Rikard: rolling out next Update for the Xperia x8

There's a new post by Rikard on the blog.
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/02/01/next-update-for-the-xperia-x10-and-x8-family
All that is mentioned for the x8 is:
"the mini products and the Xperia X8 we
also have enabled the ANT+ support in the
chipset. "
and thats it.
No dual touch, new Timescape, no changes to 4 corner UI, so called uxp update is a sham.
SE is crazy. No 2.2, ok we cried but we stayed mum. But going back on a promise of providing a decent update is pretty sad.

How can they not post DT for X8. I dont care about the stupid timescape, or the stupid launcher. All I want is DT (and most of the users here).
$$%$%$%!%$%$%$%

same with me
stoyandim said:
How can they not post DT for X8. I dont care about the stupid timescape, or the stupid launcher. All I want is DT (and most of the users here).
$$%$%$%!%$%$%$%
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u are quietly right!!!!but froyo still needed...

i used US firmware, and check with SEUS and PC com, there's no update available.
Anyone has new update? and can you share your SI number? hope that new update is not china firmware, cause it makes my phone slower than US firmware

In case we will receive this update, am i right assuming it will delete anything on the phone?
So we have to reinstall all our apps, adjust settings again and so on?

Come on guys, SE never promised dualtouch for the X8! We don't even know if it's possible. I think we have no right to cry about this, as we bought our phone knowing there would be no multitouch.

Dammit guys! Why are you complaining? They'll enable ANT+!!! Don't you know how useful is it? It'll save many lives, and since we all have ANT+ monitoring devices, DT should be our least concern...
xD, yeah right... I really really don't see any purpose of ANT+, can't they at least give us DT?
All I can say right now is: SE, you haven't said a word about 2.2 on Xperia, while developers got 2.3 working on X10 and racht is in progress of making it work on our X8-s (I hope)...

Google construct the Android OS and SE is 2 lazy to customize it
SE u disappointed us all

The X8 update will start rolling out one week after the x10, so arnd 2-3 days more and we can expect it to begin, not that it'll add much but I want to see if they have made any improvements to the UI.

One "improvement" they surelly done is patch up the root exploit, so I would say not to update...

CaptainZap said:
One "improvement" they surelly done is patch up the root exploit, so I would say not to update...
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They have spy on forum.
No other way to know that.

as-mario said:
They have spy on forum.
No other way to know that.
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They could have found the exploit on their own.

As you bought the X8, did you read something about multitouch or Froyo 2.2? No. Point.

ox_eye said:
As you bought the X8, did you read something about multitouch or Froyo 2.2? No. Point.
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As I bought x8, i read that it has ANDROID os AND when i bought it, x8 was new on the market. The most popular os in the world must be upgraded and it must have MT,Flash and app2sd.

Really, really dissapointed about this phone, seems to me that the next phone I buy will deffo not be a SE ( and I'm loyal to SE since my first mobile phone back in 1998 )
Way to screw users by not offering decent updates.

we want froyo in our x8 becuz this is our law. se must unlock the boot loader.

CaptainZap said:
One "improvement" they surelly done is patch up the root exploit, so I would say not to update...
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agreed..
i m not updating my phone until SE brings MT or froyo to the X8 (which is never)
this is seriously my last SE phone

Stop hoping for nothing, the X8 will never get froyo or MT oficially... the only solution will be to get a working froyo rom for the x8 and that will be it. Sony screwed me one time with the X8, but it will be the last time i buy a SE phone.

still not available in Croatia...

I just want to say"SE u disappointed us all"

New update coming for X8

hello,just check this out.new update for x8,maybe its not froyo or gingerbread but anything new is welcome
http://www.ptcrb.com/ctiastaff/complete/view_complete_request.cfm?modelid=17877

Wtf, more updates for what, maybe block root.
They should put aome sync support so we can sync libs from custom roms we will got better perfomance
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calm down
Guys, as much as I hate to say, don't get too excited.
Check this out:
Source:
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2011/06/
Quote:
For XperiaTM X10 mini, mini pro and X8 there are as communicated earlier no plans to update beyond the current Éclair version. There are two mains reasons for this: The XperiaTM X10 mini, X10 mini pro and X8 all have less RAM memory than XperiaTM X10. By this we can’t guarantee a good user experience by upgrading beyond Android 2.1. The upgrade of XperiaTM X10 also was made possible due to that we had a code base that mostly could be reused. For the mini’s, who have a different user interface, this possibility did not exist.

elderduke said:
For XperiaTM X10 mini, mini pro and X8 there are as communicated earlier no plans to update beyond the current Éclair version. There are two mains reasons for this: The XperiaTM X10 mini, X10 mini pro and X8 all have less RAM memory than XperiaTM X10. By this we can’t guarantee a good user experience by upgrading beyond Android 2.1. The upgrade of XperiaTM X10 also was made possible due to that we had a code base that mostly could be reused. For the mini’s, who have a different user interface, this possibility did not exist.
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Yeah, we've already seen it. Bullshitting all the way through.

Graveir said:
Yeah, we've already seen it. Bullshitting all the way through.
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Max RAM i got with gingerbread is 90 MB and with froyo 111 MB,they skiped froyo,all their devices will run gingerbread so they dont want three devices run froyo,very simple.

But they want their devices to run Eclair? Yeah, hell lot of logic included...

Does not make logic anyway
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Does not make logic anyway
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I bet SE is lying again.lol

Hey guys,
I just checked my girlfriend's X8 has this latest software update available (start of July 2011). I think it's now the 3rd update or so, the first being Android 2.1, the second something with Nike-Chip and the ability to cut videos and an office suite.
But somehow I can't find details on what this current 3rd update does (though it's a pretty popular phone?)
Has anybody checked it out already? SE's Backup-And-Restore-App always screws up the contacts and calendar entries, so I would like to know if it's worth the pain.
Edit: Oh and it's a branding-and-simlock-free X8 from Amazon ;-)

SE is full of bull****! They won't update our devices to Android 2.2 because they don't want! I'm using the Froyobread rom and i have 94MB of ram free. If they don't know how to work on their own phones, simply deliver the development to jerpelea, racht, doixanh or anyone able enough!

Sony Ericsson ------> Fail make.believe ------> make.ruin

spyder12345 said:
Sony Ericsson ------> Fail make.believe ------> make.ruin
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...make.****...

Even SE W8 is running in 2.1.
Sorry, don't dream. Froyobread is better than SE 2.2 (if ever exists)

now, i really don't like SE, they don't give us update to froyo or ginger maybe they think that we want buy their phone with official ginger support.
but thanks for the nice phone, our dev is more creative than your staff!

fredal said:
Even SE W8 is running in 2.1.
Sorry, don't dream. Froyobread is better than SE 2.2 (if ever exists)
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First:iam not dreaming
Second:i never said its froyo
third:i quite like SE phones
Forth:its dreaming to say any custom rom with stock kernel and locked bootloader works flawless.i have them all and still stock works better than any

So wait for you "lovely" stock rom update or follow xda developers !
Stop spamming !

josephnero said:
I bet SE is lying again.lol
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yup..they sure a big liar to their customer.

abaz123 said:
So wait for you "lovely" stock rom update or follow xda developers !
Stop spamming !
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you are the one thats spamming fool.dont try to play moderater.
ps:i have X8 and x10 so right now iam enjoying flawless gingerbread.Big thanks to SE

Not playing here please

Like the most of X8 Owners, i will never buy a sony ericsson again...
But people like racht and doixanh show us what a lovely phone we have

Xperia x8 will probably get ICS

Guys look at this!
Recently Android 2.4 firmware, also known as Ice Cream Sandwich got a release date of October-November, 2011. Later Sony Ericsson’s spokesperson has confirmed that all their Xperia Android phones will be getting the free upgrade when ICS becomes available. Phones that will be getting the Android ICS upgrades are Xperia X10, Xperia X8, Xperia Play and all other recently released Xperia phones.
We will update this post once more information about Android 2.4 for Xperia phones becomes available.
Extracted from: http://androidistic.com/520/android-2-4-update-for-all-se-xperia-phones-android-ics/

Looking forward for this update... If it will hapen... i'll say "am sorry" to SE
Update:
Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You are currently in position number 1 in the queue.
You have now been connected to an agent.
Thorleif: Hi x8 android 2.4 ?! Welcome to Sony Ericsson Contact Center, my name is Thorleif. Unfortunately we are unable to give support in your native language for the time being. May I help you in English?
x8 android 2.4 ?: yes
x8 android 2.4 ?: is it true: http://androidistic.com/520/android-2-4-update-for-all-se-xperia-phones-android-ics/
x8 android 2.4 ?: will x8 get 2,4 android update?
Thorleif: We won't update Sony Ericsson Xperia X8 beyond Android 2.1.
x8 android 2.4 ?: so the article is lie
x8 android 2.4 ?: right?
Thorleif: Yes
x8 android 2.4 ?: thanks for your answers...

epic.....SE sucks

They mentioned that only the 2011 Xperia phones will get ICS:
http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-ericsson-xperia-smartphones-could-taste-android-2-44-0-ice-cream-sandwich-24296/

X8 will have ICS but probably made by dx or other Xda dev's.Because it will be an open source in conclusion :
[email protected] official SE.

oh damn! well we dont have to worry we have a lot of developers here that are dedicated to giving us and themselves what our phones deserve! Im sure we will get ICS on our beloved X8s!

Ofcourse this is a lie... ICS will be 4.0 ... how can Honeycomb downgrade from 3.x to 2.4 ..lol
ICS will be both for phone and tablets and we will probobly get this update via xda's custom roms not sony!

That is true. As it has been said earlier SE will upgrade only 2011 Xperias, plague for them.

people who create websites like this are so stupid....

even though these thread makes no seense for all of you hwo are reading it:
xperia phone are going to be updated by SE,xperia walkman is one of them so i see no problem of taking source from it and a lil"bit modifing
alredy there is a ROM which is in really early stage but you can see taht it is posibble,
the update od se will be in 4-5month of 2012
marry christmas and happy new year

the article your read was unfortunatly wrong, x8 will not get ics update, as it is only 2011 devices that will recive it. the x8 is 2010 device and as people are calling it, obsolete now. i still have 12 months till my phone contract finishes so i wont be getting a new one till late 2012 maybe even 2013,( but by then new android will be released )

ICS means 25/175 MB Free RAM on X8. And with this free ram what can we do? nothing..
It means our "multitasking android" will become a simple "NOKIA S40" phone that mean for opening an application we have to close another one due to less free memory for running another app.
Even Android 2.2 on X8 has much better multitasking than Android 2.3.
I think Developers should first fix Android 2.2 and 2.3 because everyone here except some members want the real smartphone of daily life NOT A SHOWPIECE

KASHYAP9 said:
members want the real smartphone of daily life NOT A SHOWPIECE
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OMG That's so true!!!

KASHYAP9 said:
ICS means 25/175 MB Free RAM on X8. And with this free ram what can we do? nothing..
It means our "multitasking android" will become a simple "NOKIA S40" phone that mean for opening an application we have to close another one due to less free memory for running another app.
Even Android 2.2 on X8 has much better multitasking than Android 2.3.
I think Developers should first fix Android 2.2 and 2.3 because everyone here except some members want the real smartphone of daily life NOT A SHOWPIECE
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There are fully working Froyo and Gingerbread roms...

widiril said:
There are fully working Froyo and Gingerbread roms...
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No man there are bugs still in 2.2 like
1. A/V sync.
2. Auto brightness (like stock ROM)
3.DSP manager.
and many other ignorable bugs but you can not ignore above three bugs.
I have tried GB roms for 3 months I found no problem like these but problem is of more multitasking. So i switched back to FROYO roms. And MODED them according to my needs. But dsp still in bug and most of us want this.
You know why SE refused to give further updates for X8 because they prefer multitasking.
As Eclair Rom on X8 has 110/175 MB free RAM
and Froyo Rom has 80-90 MB free RAM
Gingerbread has 40-65 MB free ram
And finally your ICS has 20-30 MB free ram which is in initial stage.

KASHYAP9 said:
No man there are bugs still in 2.2 like
1. A/V sync.
2. Auto brightness (like stock ROM)
3.DSP manager.
and many other ignorable bugs but you can not ignore above three bugs.
I have tried GB roms for 3 months I found no problem like these but problem is of more multitasking. So i switched back to FROYO roms. And MODED them according to my needs. But dsp still in bug and most of us want this.
You know why SE refused to give further updates for X8 because they prefer multitasking.
As Eclair Rom on X8 has 110/175 MB free RAM
and Froyo Rom has 80-90 MB free RAM
Gingerbread has 40-65 MB free ram
And finally your ICS has 20-30 MB free ram which is in initial stage.
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I have:
-GingerBread =90-100mb
-Froyo=100-110mb
so...

DeFcOn said:
I have:
-GingerBread =90-100mb
-Froyo=100-110mb
so...
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So... you should have to make a new shouting thread and tell us how you got this much free memory on such roms .
We will surely follow you.
Post all methods and also how many applications you have installed and which rom you have and also which launcher with how many widgets.
If you will make a thread we will be highly thankful to you.

KASHYAP9 said:
So... you should have to make a new shouting thread and tell us how you got this much free memory on such roms .
We will surely follow you.
Post all methods and also how many applications you have installed and which rom you have and also which launcher with how many widgets.
If you will make a thread we will be highly thankful to you.
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I will not make thread!
I'm using GingerDx v021+Alfs v5 fpscap overclocked @748Mhz(Battery life is good= 2.5 day without data and 3g). I have 52 app. Nothing useless some tool, some game. Arc launcher.
See the screenshot.

Ok, did everyone noticed that sony ericsson will be no longer sony ericsson? The SE will become SONY as well in the 2012.
Why SE refused to give x8 update? It maybe from ERICSSON side refuse to cooperation With SONY, then SONY throw ERICSSON name from the SONY ERICSSON. And maybe SONY will change his mind, to give update on X8.
You Know, ericsson was bought by SONY, and now SONY throw ERICSSON away.
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mpoendi said:
Ok, did everyone noticed that sony ericsson will be no longer sony ericsson? The SE will become SONY as well in the 2012.
Why SE refused to give x8 update? It maybe from ERICSSON side refuse to cooperation With SONY, then SONY throw ERICSSON name from the SONY ERICSSON. And maybe SONY will change his mind, to give update on X8.
You Know, ericsson was bought by SONY, and now SONY throw ERICSSON away.
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Maybe...good 2.2 from sony will be nice
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