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HTC Hero 2.1 Three UK

My sisters hero is on three, it hasn't displayed anything about OTA updates, even the part 1 update, i have advanced the date yet it still isn't doing anything.
Anyone know why this is?
Cheers

Im on three to with a hero, Im just on the phone to three tech support who claim that there is no plans atm for the update on three as they dont even know of its existence. Im hoping this is just lack of communication within three as I only had the hero because of the promise of the new android as the desire only come out around 3 months after i upgraded!

i'd be extremely surprised if the three hero was left out. I read somewhere that orange and three updates are delayed, still not sure why I havent had the part 1 update though.
I've emailed HTC so i'll see what they say and update on here.

I mailed them a couple of days ago about rumours networks were blocking the update and got this response.
Dear Jason Woods,
Hi Jason, thanks for your email. HTC will be providing a free update to Éclair for European HTC Hero variants. Starting in June, anyone owning an HTC Hero will receive an initial preparatory update, shortly followed by the full Éclair update. For the full update, we would recommend using a free Wi Fi hotspot or an unlimited data plan, otherwise standard data charges may apply. We apologise for any disappointment this may cause, but we are working to get this update to you as quickly as we can. In regards to networks blocking updates, you will need to get in contact with your network provider directly for more information Thank you for contacting HTC. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact us again. Best regards, Simon A HTC

http: // w ww. unbeatable.co.uk/ news/ HTC-Hero-Android-21-Update-Delayed-for-Three-UK-Customers /284530 .html
I'm a "new user". Apologies for the spaces!
Damn it.

Use the goldcard method, downgrade, flash a new ROM. Works just fine. The walkthroughs are very good on this site and provided you follow them it should work just fine. The changes 3 will make to the rom are so minor it really isn't worth waiting for.

Thisother0ne said:
Use the goldcard method, downgrade, flash a new ROM. Works just fine. The walkthroughs are very good on this site and provided you follow them it should work just fine. The changes 3 will make to the rom are so minor it really isn't worth waiting for.
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I would but it's my sisters phone, should have heard the grief i got just for installing the custom htc keyboard on it lol. She will just have to wait.

As an update for anyone waiting, 3 have been posting updates on their blog here: blog.three.co.uk/2009/12/07/the-htc-hero-with-spotify
They posted today that the update "is being tested and is due for approval imminently".
I've posted a question asking if only part 1 will be available by the end of Friday or if both parts will be.

They replied and apparently the update will come all at once instead of two parts.

Cool - I have a Desire and my Mrs has a Hero... she is complaining her phones not as slick looking as mine so I thought I would flash it... but if 3 are doing an official update I'll wait for that.

Looks like they missed their deadline, but they did release a new statement on their blog.
Thanks for all your patience regarding the 2.1 update for HTC Hero. We have now tested and approved the software and this has been submitted to Google to get the final go-ahead. We’re hoping that they can push this through as quickly as possible, but we’re not clear on the timescales for this yet.
As soon as we know more from Google on their timescales we’ll let you know
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Three is delaying yet again. Now they are saying it could be another two weeks.
Three has now tested and approved the 2.1 update for HTC Hero and it has been submitted to Google to get the final go-ahead.
We're hoping that they can approve it within the next 2 weeks and then we can start updating Three customers with HTC Heros.
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Why would Google have to approve the update?

the wife has a Hero on 3uk, support told here the update would be by the end of august, hopefully, well at least she thinks that what he said.
anyway she gave up waiting and let me flash the 2.1 stock rom to her phone.

Update on the T-Mobile Vibrant software update

This seems like an internal message to T-Mobile employees.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/19/t-mobile-tells-reps-the-vibrant-gps-update-is-coming-soon/

cool. More info is good info.
People keep talking about samsung not updating or what not.
I hope these statements proves Samsung is trying this time. GPS fix and froyo and ill be a happy clam..

Yesssssir
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If you squint to read the actual T-Mobile memo -- the first paragraph meant for internal consumption, not the quoted line to be given to customers -- it looks like the schedule for all end users to get the update may slip a bit past September (my emphasis):
The software update is expected to roll out beginning in September.
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boomerbubba said:
If you squint to read the actual T-Mobile memo -- the first paragraph meant for internal consumption, not the quoted line to be given to customers -- it looks like the schedule for all end users to get the update may slip a bit past September (my emphasis):
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They say that because OTA updates are rolled out in stages. If they pushed a large update to everyone on their network, the network would bog. Also, this is to make sure the update is tested in "packets" of people, so if there is a problem with the update, only 1 percent of your user base will be affected.
OTAs usually take 2-3 weeks to roll out to everyone. So that is why they say "beginning"

MMcCraryNJ said:
They say that because OTA updates are rolled out in stages. If they pushed a large update to everyone on their network, the network would bog. Also, this is to make sure the update is tested in "packets" of people, so if there is a problem with the update, only 1 percent of your user base will be affected.
OTAs usually take 2-3 weeks to roll out to everyone. So that is why they say "beginning"
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I understand all that quite well. Just trying to get people's expectations grounded in reality. We should pay attention to what the memo actually says, not what we wish it says.
Many folks seem to be assuming they will get a "fix" in September for sure. What they can expect is sofware to "optimize GPS performance," whatever that means. And they might not get the update until sometime in October if the rollout begins at the end of September and takes several weeks. If it begins Sept. 1, it could be sooner.
When customers are dealing with 14-day return policies from T-Mobile, these distinctions are very important.

boomerbubba said:
I understand all that quite well. Just trying to get people's expectations grounded in reality. We should pay attention to what the memo actually says, not what we wish it says.
Many folks seem to be assuming they will get a "fix" in September for sure. What they can expect is sofware to "optimize GPS performance," whatever that means. And they might not get the update until sometime in October if the rollout begins at the end of September and takes several weeks. If it begins Sept. 1, it could be sooner.
When customers are dealing with 14-day return policies from T-Mobile, these distinctions are very important.
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Well "optimizing" is what needs to happen. The GPS isn't broken, it just doesn't work very well. If it were broken, it wouldn't work at all. It does see your general location, however the performance of locating and tracking needs to be improved. Hence it needs "optimizing".

Actually in my case and a few others, the gps doesn't work at all. Never has a lock despite how many satellites are in view and how strong the signal is.
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op·ti·mize
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It's the last part of the definition that bothers me "functional as possible". If it's a hardware issue then they are probably going to try to make it as "functional as possible" on broken hardware and therefore is not really fixed. We will see....

I am using unlocked samsung vibrant but I am not on T mobile network. So will I get the update ?

mohitmoudgil said:
I am using unlocked samsung vibrant but I am not on T mobile network. So will I get the update ?
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Not OTA. Perhaps there will be a direct dl, but you'll have to wait for it.

I heard that i9000 in other countries always update through the Samsung software ONLY,
Do we need it for vibrant too or we have OTA in US

Emama said:
I heard that i9000 in other countries always update through the Samsung software ONLY,
Do we need it for vibrant too or we have OTA in US
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The countries that have the I9000 have a different business model than the U.S. industry has evolved. The sales of phones and the sales of cellphone service in Europe are not so strongly linked. U.S. telecoms dominate the distribution of phones, and they provide updates to the firmware OTA. So U.S. Vibrant owners can expect to get an update that way.

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The countries that have the I9000 have a different business model than the U.S. industry has evolved. The sales of phones and the sales of cellphone service in Europe are not so strongly linked. U.S. telecoms dominate the distribution of phones, and they provide updates to the firmware OTA. So U.S. Vibrant owners can expect to get an update that way.
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so basically we dont need the KIES (?) for vibrant?

Stupid questions about this issue?
OK, I understand that things move slow in the corporate world, but someone please explain? I can understand there may be strategic reasons for releasing FroYo in dribs & drabs, but that will be to make something decent, better. But, does anyone have an opinion about the alleged GPS optimization, from the standpoint of it being ready or not? What I mean is: there's a lot of upset folks NOW because of the problem. "If" the "fix" is ready, why not release it now-ish? Does the target date mean that they're hoping against hope that someone in-house will figure it out by then? I'm sure a developer who knows inner workings of development teams can explain why? I guess the disconnect is: if the fix is ready, and they know approximately when it will be released, are they just doing testing between now and then? How many people times how many times a day times how many days or months does it take to "test" it prior to release? Just asking...

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so basically we dont need the KIES (?) for vibrant?
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That is correct.

i just called tmobile they said the gps fix is coming out in september

wbexpress said:
OK, I understand that things move slow in the corporate world, but someone please explain? I can understand there may be strategic reasons for releasing FroYo in dribs & drabs, but that will be to make something decent, better. But, does anyone have an opinion about the alleged GPS optimization, from the standpoint of it being ready or not? What I mean is: there's a lot of upset folks NOW because of the problem. "If" the "fix" is ready, why not release it now-ish? Does the target date mean that they're hoping against hope that someone in-house will figure it out by then? I'm sure a developer who knows inner workings of development teams can explain why? I guess the disconnect is: if the fix is ready, and they know approximately when it will be released, are they just doing testing between now and then? How many people times how many times a day times how many days or months does it take to "test" it prior to release? Just asking...
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Now-ish is a month. The bug fixes that will be rolled into the update are done and the final update packages are being compiled and tested (dont want OTA Bricks now do we?) and being sent to the carrier, this will probably take a week or two, and then the carrier will take the update, come up with a plan and implement the plan to distribute it OTA to users. This will also take at least a week to setup, then about 2 weeks to complete (OTA push).
As you said things take time in the corporate world. If the carrier is getting definite news of the update (evidence by the internal memo) they've probably received news of the update and its delivery date to them now. So a week or so till they actually receive it. With this guess, I'd say we're still 2-3 weeks at a minimum out till the update is 'out', which is beginning/mid Sept, and that is if there are no snags.

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Now-ish is a month. The bug fixes that will be rolled into the update are done and the final update packages are being compiled and tested (dont want OTA Bricks now do we?) and being sent to the carrier, this will probably take a week or two, and then the carrier will take the update, come up with a plan and implement the plan to distribute it OTA to users. This will also take at least a week to setup, then about 2 weeks to complete (OTA push).
As you said things take time in the corporate world. If the carrier is getting definite news of the update (evidence by the internal memo) they've probably received news of the update and its delivery date to them now. So a week or so till they actually receive it. With this guess, I'd say we're still 2-3 weeks at a minimum out till the update is 'out', which is beginning/mid Sept, and that is if there are no snags.
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Fair enough. I just needed to vent

tissimo said:
Now-ish is a month. The bug fixes that will be rolled into the update are done and the final update packages are being compiled and tested (dont want OTA Bricks now do we?) and being sent to the carrier, this will probably take a week or two, and then the carrier will take the update, come up with a plan and implement the plan to distribute it OTA to users. This will also take at least a week to setup, then about 2 weeks to complete (OTA push).
As you said things take time in the corporate world. If the carrier is getting definite news of the update (evidence by the internal memo) they've probably received news of the update and its delivery date to them now. So a week or so till they actually receive it. With this guess, I'd say we're still 2-3 weeks at a minimum out till the update is 'out', which is beginning/mid Sept, and that is if there are no snags.
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To add on to this, it is easier to add the "optimization" to the already planned update then to release two separate updates. You reduce the load on the network, reduce the chances of OTA bricks, reduced complaints of multiple updates (most users don't like to spend time worrying about that), less overhead of testing and planning each update. It's a lot different than the modding community where we can just say "I'm not responsible for what happens. At your own risk...blah blah blah."

Froyo?

Any idea when it might come out for the epic? In two, three weeks?

knowing samsung, never, but definately not until mid october, you really think any fix will come before all us models are out for 30 days with no chance of return? just like the gps fix, I would doubt we see anything until after the fascinate is out for 30 days. then samsung will lay the truth that its hardware issues.

Sammy's UK twitter account claimed end of september for the SGS phones, but it probably only meant the GSM versions. But maybe if we're lucky, we'll get it too

Firon said:
Sammy's UK twitter account claimed end of september for the SGS phones, but it probably only meant the GSM versions. But maybe if we're lucky, we'll get it too
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Sprint has already told Froyo for the Epic will come in September. Now, when exactly? Thats a whole different story.

I will be happy to see the features and speed increases that comes with 2.2. Going from 1.5 to 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.1 is two steps forward then one step back. That's no fun!

latest from Dell about o2: mid december!

Latest from [email protected]:
'We’re continuing to work with O2 to deliver the update, and expect this to start in mid-December #dellstreak'
Seriously!!!.what the hell!!...
@dell: Thanks but no thanks!!!
@djsteve: Thanks a lot!!..he he...maybe ill strt my preparation!!

Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
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whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..

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Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
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I Blame Dell, I wonder how many have got the offical update notification ??
Very few would be my guess, I'm a UK unlocked Streak owner & still no update for me.
I have asked Stephen twice via twitter about it but he doesn't bother to respond

superutp said:
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.

lol...i wasnt talking abt getting rid of the streak!!...and probably am as 'eccentric a tabletphone user' as you are..
i was talking abt waiting for dell/o2 to give me wat I want..
but as it turns out...i am staying well inside the room and waiting for the official thing to come out...whenever it does..

superutp said:
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Indeed, I feel your pain. I mean what a terrible tragedy, having to wait almost a full month before a slightly updated operating system for your mobile phone becomes available. Nobody should have to bear such a tragic burden in their life. Have you asked whether the European Commission on Human Rights will take your case up?
On the other hand, you could just go to Argos and buy one - they are advertising that their Streaks come with 2.2.

@philip...ha ha I am sure you are being sarcastic there...
no thanks but Ill stick to my current o2 locked streak...cause currenly having 2.1 instead of 2.2 doesnt really make a big difference to my existance on earth...
it's just the 'customer unawareness' of dell/o2 which bothers me...nuthin else..

Dell, carriers?
If Dell "officially" releases the update, then the carriers pack their crap onto the update, does Dell have to check it for compatibility before the carriers sign off on it? Or do the carriers send their crap to Dell, dell packages it into their OS, then tests it, and then the carriers sign off on it?
God knows I wouldn't defend the manufacturer or the carrier, but does anyone know the procedure?
THIS is a glaring example of why carriers need to get the $*#&% out of the hardware/software side of the wireless phone business, and become pipes.
(In the USA) it use to be, you provide the phone, we provide the dial tone.
Now, I'm not naive enough to know why the carriers want to stay in the hardware
side of the business, but, as phones, software evolve, they need to seriously consider changing (in the USA) their business model.

At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!

f**k the dell and o2 upgrading to 2.2 with dj steve had enough with their sh*t
we the first person to buy these f*cking device in uk and we are getting at last seriously love the device but dell a complete dirt company to deal with

To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
I'm currently using 2.1 with a mildly tweaked build.prop & ADW Launcher and other than the lack of flash it isn't lacking much.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.

Dell are fixing some of the bugs (hopefully more than some) in the initial 00 released roms..
you wouldn't want them to send the o2 ones out with something that stopped you watching iplayer would you?

Same here stateside...would rather wait until it is RIGHT...before updating.
When I was younger, as soon as a point release would come out, I'd jump on it.
Not so much anymore. I want stable.
I use to go bleeding edge on hardware for the PC, tweaking and tweaking to get the performance, and then living with unstable systems.
Last pc I built replaced one that I built and was stable for over six years, running 24/7. The one I built, should be as stable for another six.
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To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.
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Official update
Hi everybody,
There is a link that gives you all the countries who are able to download the official update; go check on streaksmart and you will see a link for unlocked models; So I did and I am on froyo with my unlocked streak; I would say just one thing don't hesitate, it is official but happens manually...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more

The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.

It is the official update
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The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.
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You know,before saying it isn't official, go check the page by yourself; its the official page; I am not the only one who has download it and still I have no issues at all..so stop saying it is not OFFICIAL and go check by yourself

"I am not the only one who has download it"
thats it! the official update ist ota!
chris

Please, go check and read this page, you will be abble to download it on your streak,...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more

creamop66 said:
At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!
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which power plug do you use there?

HTC One with 1.27 firmware

Hi,
I've just received my HTC One I just discovered that it has 1.27 firmware inside :| And OTA section doesn't show updates :\
What can I do? Can I update to 1.28 (HTC Stock) without flashing a custom rom?

simonepsp said:
Hi,
I've just received my HTC One I just discovered that it has 1.27 firmware inside :| And OTA section doesn't show updates :\
What can I do? Can I update to 1.28 (HTC Stock) without flashing a custom rom?
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I think you can flash one of these that matches: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39588860, or just root and install a custom rom?!

wait this month and htc will release 4.2.2. This old version is working fine, so i didnt updated or rooted until now.

RoachPapa said:
wait this month and htc will release 4.2.2. This old version is working fine, so i didnt updated or rooted until now.
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Where did you hear 4.2.2 will be out this month or did I misunderstand what you wrote?

daleski75 said:
Where did you hear 4.2.2 will be out this month or did I misunderstand what you wrote?
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4.2.2 will drop for the One soon, I believe Football has sources to confirm it. Probably within the next two months.

anyone knows what are differences between the two firmwares?

Hunt3r.j2 said:
4.2.2 will drop for the One soon, I believe Football has sources to confirm it. Probably within the next two months.
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Ahh cool hopefully it will fix the rather poor bluetooth connectivity with the bluetooth in my car then.

Can you elaborate?
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Mine came with 1.28... but its vodafone branded

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Ahh cool hopefully it will fix the rather poor bluetooth connectivity with the bluetooth in my car then.
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Hi,
I noticed too a weird bluetooth connectivity in my car, with sound skipping.
It seems that disabling wifi does help.

On this s600 Thread they said it will come end of april or may. 4.2.2 features a good performance boost.

If it gets updated to 4.2.2, would the camera app have the photosphere or something similar.
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If any of you really think they're updating to 4.2.2 in the next 30 or even 60 days you're living in dreamworld. HTC's priority is the production and sale of this handset to get them back into the black. They're not going to rush to bring out a minor iterative update that few are desperate for and no-one needs.

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If any of you really think they're updating to 4.2.2 in the next 30 or even 60 days you're living in dreamworld. HTC's priority is the production and sale of this handset to get them back into the black. They're not going to rush to bring out a minor iterative update that few are desperate for and no-one needs.
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As long as they update to KLP and if they skipped 4.2.2 I wouldn't really care.

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As long as they update to KLP and if they skipped 4.2.2 I wouldn't really care.
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Agreed. The priority should be firmware updates to address any issues that early-adopters encounter and big, RELEVANT updates like KLP. HTC made an active decision NOT to use 4.2.2, so the idea that some are suggesting that they're going to release the phone with 4.1 and then scrabble to bring 4.2.2 anyway is a bit silly.

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If any of you really think they're updating to 4.2.2 in the next 30 or even 60 days you're living in dreamworld. HTC's priority is the production and sale of this handset to get them back into the black. They're not going to rush to bring out a minor iterative update that few are desperate for and no-one needs.
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Dreamworld? Just so you know every company has what we call "Departments" just because a company focuses on marketing doesn't mean their R&D department would also do marketing tasks and halt R&D(Research & Development).

paddylaz said:
If any of you really think they're updating to 4.2.2 in the next 30 or even 60 days you're living in dreamworld. HTC's priority is the production and sale of this handset to get them back into the black. They're not going to rush to bring out a minor iterative update that few are desperate for and no-one needs.
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unless the firmware developers are doing the manufacturing of the handsets at the factories then what you say makes no sense
some people's logic is seriously lol funny, software development does not just stop b/c they need to speed up the manufacturing process in the plants, and if it did how would that help the cause when they do not even work there?

brainimpact said:
unless the firmware developers are doing the manufacturing of the handsets at the factories then what you say makes no sense
some people's logic is seriously lol funny, software development does not just stop b/c they need to speed up the manufacturing process in the plants, and if it did how would that help the cause when they do not even work there?
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There's nothing wrong with my logic, this is just common sense combined with observational evidence from past handsets. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick here - and it might be my fault for not being clearer. I'm not suggesting they won't bring it out for reasons of available 'manpower.' I'm just suggesting they have priorities, and a bottom line - and you sir, being one of the 2% public (along with me) who know and care about things like .x android iterations are not a priority. They made an active decision to go with 4.1. New software updates mean software engineers to combine with Sense, licensing with google, training and updating customer service personnel in case of problems/bugs with the update. All this and more cost MONEY. Can they do it? Sure. WILL they do it for a tiny update iteration that's not important to anyone outside the 2% and something that's too irrelevant to market and advertise about? HELL NO.
Anyway I'll bookmark this thread - will give it 60 days and see if Im wrong. My guess is you'll never see it. They'll jump to KLP. It makes more financial sense and my 'funny logic' tells me their business is financially motivated.

You seem to labouring under the impression that HTC either allow all their code division to sit on their hands for months on end whilst each batch is shipped out and sold, only earning their keep ready for the next manufacturing run (either that or you're assuming they are laid off for months at a time, allowing the competition time to head hunt them!)
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paddylaz said:
If any of you really think they're updating to 4.2.2 in the next 30 or even 60 days you're living in dreamworld. HTC's priority is the production and sale of this handset to get them back into the black. They're not going to rush to bring out a minor iterative update that few are desperate for and no-one needs.
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I agree people are delusional if they think HTC will release 4.2.2 anytime in the next 6 months. HTC has proven time and time again to lie about release dates and take their sweet time. They are as bad as Motorola. Nothing has changed with the one and if we do get key lime pie it will be 8 months after Google releases it if HTC hasn't folded by then. They are gambling the whole company on the one release. Hope it does pay off for them as their phone hardware look and build is nice.