We have 2 I9000M's, and I've read that it was inherently possible to connect 2 devices with BT 3.0 to one another. Has an app been developed to do this. The article I read was on the upcoming WiFi Direct challenge to Bluetooth, and they listed both radios capabilities. We also own a set of Cardo Scala Rider Q2 helmet communicators that allow us to talk up to 500 meters via Bluetooth 2.1. So my curiosity is why nobody has capitalized on this technology. And if they have, where is it?
problem is that android needs the bluetooth profiles like normal oes, but guess what, not included. sgs is capable of bt 3.0, yet so many have problems with carradios (direct copy of contacts, basic free hand, voice dial) and so on. sgs has a full usb contoller, yet not drivers in it, its the same thing.
as for direct connection, i recommend bump (in market)
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Ok so i am picking up my X10 tomorrow and i was really wondering if it comes with or has the ability to use Blue Tooth Dial Up Networking as well as the PAN protocol? can anyone fill me in?
bluetooth prodiles supported are:
a2dp
audio/video remote control
generic access
generic obj. exchange
handsfree
headset
obj. push
no dialup
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based on that list it doesn't look like it has any BT modem at all
well in case someone stumbles upon this post in a few months and wondering if there is the answer is no but yes. it does not have it but PDANet can be downloaded from the Market but the BTDUN doesn't work unless your x10 has android 2.0
Hi!
I have a question regarding android devices in general. The main question is if this idea is possible with the right app or if you need special hardware?
I want to develop an app that let's you use any android device as a bluetooth headset connected to a cellphone. The setup is primarily for a car installation but other uses are also possible. This is how I want it to work:
I install an Android MID in my car and connect it to the stereo using a cable or bluetooth (depending on whats possible) to get the sound from the mid to the cars speakers. On this MID I'll have google maps and Spotify (or pandora) for navigation and music. So far this is nothing special, but I also want to be able to answer and make calls from a connected (bluetooth) phone (like on many dedicated gps).
By doing this I want the driver (any driver) to be able pair his/her phone with the MID. The calls to the connected phone will be displayed on the MID so their phones can stay in their pockets.
1. Is it possible to answer a telephone call to a cellphone by using an "answer" button on a bluetooth connected android device? Example "My Desire is connected by bluetooth to the android MID. When an external call is made to the Desire I can anser it from the MID".
2. If the answer to no 1 is Yes, is it at the same time possible to share internet via the same bluetooth connection?
Anyone have any idea if this is possible with the right app or if it need special hardware?
Sorry for bad english and long question..
- A
Bathyon said:
Hi!
I have a question regarding android devices in general. The main question is if this idea is possible with the right app or if you need special hardware?
I want to develop an app that let's you use any android device as a bluetooth headset connected to a cellphone. The setup is primarily for a car installation but other uses are also possible. This is how I want it to work:
I install an Android MID in my car and connect it to the stereo using a cable or bluetooth (depending on whats possible) to get the sound from the mid to the cars speakers. On this MID I'll have google maps and Spotify (or pandora) for navigation and music. So far this is nothing special, but I also want to be able to answer and make calls from a connected (bluetooth) phone (like on many dedicated gps).
By doing this I want the driver (any driver) to be able pair his/her phone with the MID. The calls to the connected phone will be displayed on the MID so their phones can stay in their pockets.
1. Is it possible to answer a telephone call to a cellphone by using an "answer" button on a bluetooth connected android device? Example "My Desire is connected by bluetooth to the android MID. When an external call is made to the Desire I can anser it from the MID".
2. If the answer to no 1 is Yes, is it at the same time possible to share internet via the same bluetooth connection?
Anyone have any idea if this is possible with the right app or if it need special hardware?
Sorry for bad english and long question..
- A
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With the right app, sure. Not sure if you can do it over bluetooth tho, maybe get a SIM for the MID and have your phone forward calls to it while your in the car. But i bet someone could figure out the bluetooth thing.
First of all, there is a problem connecting to the phone wifi due to it being an "ad -hoc" network. But the phone through the tablet is a great idea and some of us are working with such a prototype called "FLEX" it will be a small unlocked cell phone device that connects via BT to the tablet and handles the phone function for the tablet as you have described. Send me a pm if you would like more info.
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He's talking about Bluetooth not WiFi
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I know he is talking about Bluetooth... but he also mentioned wanting to connect to 3g of the phone for data I believe.
I've actually had this idea as well! I don't know much about bluetooth programming, but there should be some way to spoof the phone bluetooth device ID or whatever to make the other device believe it's talking to a bt headset. I'm going to guess it might require root.
If you do decide to start coding something like this, let me know how i can help (ie, testing).
cheers,
q
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Thanks for all the answers. I don't think I'm able to program this myself but was interested in if the concept was possible. If it is I sure hope someone creates it. I would pay good money for a solution like that and I think others would to.
If you come across more information regarding projects in this area please let me know.
Thanks again.
I can't post this in development because I an still a nobody ...
Would it be possible to add in rfcomm for Bluetooth SPP serial port? The Nook would make a great tablet for telescope mount control over BT. You can't do it with the iPad due to the security around the BT stacks. It would also allow NEMA GPS modules to be read for different applications.
I'm running CM7 7.0.2 and this isn't yet available.
Just a dream?
Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
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Not sure if this is what you're talking about, but you can send the GPS data to the Nook form a GPS device like a Cell phone or GPS receiver. I use a stand alone GPS receiver and sometimes my Droid cell phone to send my location to the Nook to use CoPilot and Google Maps on the Nook. That's at least half of what you're talking about right?
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Hmm, you got me pondering...
I got out my trusty Garmin GPS 10 and I can pair but it's not connected. That could be for a couple of reasons (the Nook only connects on demand maybe.) But if what you are saying is correct, maybe it does support SPP since it uses a comm port for the GPS.
But, when I connected from my notebook and checked the services, SPP wasn't one of them (just OPEX and AD2P.) I will keep playing but I half expect that part of the SPP stack requirements are missing.
On the plus side, if the GPS will work too, that is a second plus since it's nice to be able to ask the GPS for the specific time and location during the telescope setup (it matters.)
I'll look for an app in the Market that might read an external GPS devices and show the location. I notice most apps are for reading the phone GPS (which we don't have.)
Thanks!
Android does not support SPP, but there are multiple apps in the market which do, Bluetooth GPS Provider is the one which I prefer as it works very well and just works no matter what.
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
Awats said:
Thanks folks,
I fired up the Garmin GPS 10 and it works using Bluetooth GPS. That means an application can add in the SPP. That is perfect and gives us hope!
I really appreciate the responses!
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Yes, apps can directly talk with a Blutooth GPS. There are a handful which do this, or again, Bluetooth GPS Provider will provide the BT GPS to every app that asks for GPS.
This isn't only about GPS. GPS is just one aspect. I want to communicate with any serial device over BT. My understanding from reading it that rfcomm and the applications can supply that function.
What I did notice last night is that even without an application that supplies rfcomm, the Nook would still discover the devices unlike the iPad. I could pair to pretty much anything I wanted but it wouldn't connect. That's normal from my perspective.
At least I know it can be made to work.
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Android does not support SPP...
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Well, the XOOM does at least. Not sure whether it was Motorola's or Google's doing though. I use a Bluetooth to Serial adapter from Roving Networks quite successfully with it. I'm unaware of any other devices that do it.
I agree that native Android doesn't support SPP but the rfcomm library does and if it's linked into the application, SPP works.
Now if I can only find a way to use VNC to control my PPC from the Nook without going through a remote server (maybe via adhoc or BT ...)
Any device at API level 5 (2.0) or above may support BluetoothSocket, RFCOMM and therefore SPP unless the OEM did something to screw it up.
Can anyone tell me if there is a technical reason Bluetooth SAP/rSAP cannot be delivered on the Windows Phone 7 platform, or are the just being lazy about delivering it??
So... no reply cause nobody knows or no reply cause I'm being a n00b and this is answered elsewhere? Or something worse?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rsap+windows+phone+7
Just follow the first link "Frage zu SAP..." (german)
So far only these BT profiles are implemented:
PBAP — Phone Book Access Profile
A2DP — Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
HSP — Headset Profile
HFP — Hands-Free Profile
AVRCP — A/V Remote Control Profile
Anything else would be speculation, because Mango BT updates known so far:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-mango-bluetooth-stack-updated-but-not-much/
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rsap+windows+phone+7
Just follow the first link "Frage zu SAP..." (german)
So far only these BT profiles are implemented:
PBAP — Phone Book Access Profile
A2DP — Advanced Audio Distribution Profile
HSP — Headset Profile
HFP — Hands-Free Profile
AVRCP — A/V Remote Control Profile
Anything else would be speculation, because Mango BT updates known so far:
http://wmpoweruser.com/windows-phone-mango-bluetooth-stack-updated-but-not-much/
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Thanks - just saw that qualified listing and was a little disappointed. I checked the one for Apple iOS (listed as software version 4.1 and 4.2) and it also doesn't mention SAP or rSAP, but I know it does support those profiles, so I'm wondering whether I am just reading it wrong.
The differences are that iOS has:
RFCOMM
Bluetooth Network Encapsulation Protocol
Personal Area Networking Profile
HID
Interop Test Spec
Which one of these is linked to SAP/rSAP?
How do you "know" that iPhone supports rSAP? It does not, not even 4.3:
http://iamtim.de/2011/05/das-iphone-und-das-sim-access-profil-sap-oder-rsap/
None of these profiles you listed is rSAP (or SAP, SIM), as written here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
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How do you "know" that iPhone supports rSAP? It does not, not even 4.3:
http://iamtim.de/2011/05/das-iphone-und-das-sim-access-profil-sap-oder-rsap/
None of these profiles you listed is rSAP (or SAP, SIM), as written here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_profile#SIM_Access_Profile_.28SAP.2C_SIM.2C_rSAP.29
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Well I suppose to be clear I don't "know", I just "think". The reason I "think" is because it communicates with my car, that says it "requires" SIM Access Profile, whereas my phone REFUSES to communicate with my car.
Additional detail: the car actually supports 2 bluetooth "modes": Headphone mode and SIM Access mode. If I have the car initiate the bluetooth connection it will use the remote SIM mode, and if the phone initiates the connection it will use the "headphones" mode.
A Nokia N97 works in both directions. As does the iPhone 3 and 4. My Samsung Omnia 7 won't do either.
Maybe Mango will be a solution, because it updates the Headset and Hands-free profiles.
"New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. "
Also there comes PBA (Phonebook Access profile), which is basically the same as SAP, but it uses the radio of the phone, instead the radio inbuilt to the car kit.
PBA and your interpretation of it being very similar to SAP sounds quite interesting yet it will most likely not be recognized by SAP-only car-kits like the older VW premium handsfree-boxes. I for instance refrain from switching to any other OS than windows Mobile simply because i need my phone working with the car kit and i am not going to buy a new car because my phone doesnt support the current.
Well, anyhow. I was going to say, that if the PBA doesn't support some kinda fake-SAp mode (pretend to be sap or so) it will most likely not help anyone with sap-only car kits. not matter how much it is similar to sap.
sorry to say this.
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I for instance refrain from switching to any other OS than windows Mobile simply because i need my phone working with the car kit and i am not going to buy a new car because my phone doesnt support the current.
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While i have both versions of Windows OS and yes the 6.x suported rSAP, the new WP7 does not. If you want a new phone that supports rSAP then Android fills the bill. Microsoft really dropped the ball by not supporting rSAP. Like you, have a VW-based phone system and without rSAP support the current handsfree phone protocols in WP7 is basically worthless.
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Just updated my phone to Mango, and annoyingly neither the headphone mode or reomte SIM modes work. This is a deal-breaker for me.
While I was quite enjoying the phone I am now going to switch to a Galaxy SII which works reliably in both directions, and connects properly to my WiFi as well. A real shame, but I can't imagine another WP update will be coming too soon and I don't have any patience left.
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Maybe Mango will be a solution, because it updates the Headset and Hands-free profiles.
"New is Hand-Free Profile 1.5, which should mean better support for Bluetooth car kits. "
Also there comes PBA (Phonebook Access profile), which is basically the same as SAP, but it uses the radio of the phone, instead the radio inbuilt to the car kit.
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Since update my Omnia 7 to Mango, I get a lot of "BT connection error" on my display car.
all working here.
car radio is a Kenwood.
Finally now the phone transmits the name of the song playing to the headunit! like windows mobile.
Voice comands thru the Headunit work amazing too.The other day i received an sms while driving, voice comand told me that there was a new sms from Ken,then it ask me if i wanted it read out loud! I said yes and it did, at the end it ask me if i want it to reply to.
Also this is the only phone that actually auto connects to the car stereo,all my android devices need to be reconnected manually.
Funny thing all of this was set up by just pairing the device with the headunit.
Well my "head unit" is integrated into the dash - it's a Porsche touch screen system called PCM (which I think, lamely, stands for Porsche Control Module). I have anecdotal evidence that other WP7 models will connect which makes me think it may actually be the Samsung Omnia 7 itself and not WP7 per se.
What sux is that my Samsung Galaxy S2 works perfectly and my wife's iPhone4 works perfectly. So it isn't the car.
...I really haven't got the patience to wait for the Win8 update and keep using headphones for the next year!
some news here?
How could one use a cell phone(s) to listen in on their office when off premise. For instance-A phone with ringer turned off & auto answer where a phone will answer after a set amount of silent rings-3, 5, 10 etc. Or could Bluetooth be used if someone was only 15 feet away & again an auto answer scenario/setting. Sometimes a headset is supposedly needed & has to be plugged into achieve this effect & would use the Michael in the headset for listening. Any hardcore mods would be OK that may require soldering, micro soldering, extra parts, rehousing phone in different case, programs etc. Also, If anyone knows of any Java options/programs or anything that would need a cable & software would be fine too. Yeah, An older Java type track phone would be great-But Android, Windows Mobile etc. would be fine. Or would a website work for 2.4 ghz fine tuned to the device & have it bookmarked on a browser on an android phone device for quick access but prob limited range unless there is a site you can buy a page for your special needs-Or what aouta scanner site like radio reference?. Also is there anyway to listen to the audio portion of 2.4 ghz The portion of the band used for security cameras etc. Audio would be fine-Video a bonus. Bluetooth operates somewhere in the 2.4 ghz band as well. Some phones have FM radio but that would require a major overhaul_basically starting over as the system is not set up for a FM transmitter-But it could be done. I've seen devices that use a sim card like a computer mouse that works/acts like any mouse but uses a GSM sim card-So, One calls the number assigned to the sim & gets full audio of the room with no distance limitations-But many have the disclamer "Does Not Work In USA Or Canada" Most say this-But not all. I'm wondering if this is for legal reasons & more of a formality than reality as I had a similar situation before. What would be the best GSM sim do you all think would be best? Also a finished modded unit would be fine too-But really need the reciever to be a phone-Of any type. Let me know. Thanx.
PS-I'll share results answers, PM's with anybody who asks.
Saw a phone modded & done for sale by an outfit in England for about $1,500 that was amazing. Did way more than I needed-But maybe at a later date etc. $1,500 is way out of budget-But zi'm realistic & not cheap for what I need. Prob a $300/cap.
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How could one use a cell phone(s) to listen in on their office when off premise. For instance-A phone with ringer turned off & auto answer where a phone will answer after a set amount of silent rings-3, 5, 10 etc. Or could Bluetooth be used if someone was only 15 feet away & again an auto answer scenario/setting. Sometimes a headset is supposedly needed & has to be plugged into achieve this effect & would use the Michael in the headset for listening. Any hardcore mods would be OK that may require soldering, micro soldering, extra parts, rehousing phone in different case, programs etc. Also, If anyone knows of any Java options/programs or anything that would need a cable & software would be fine too. Yeah, An older Java type track phone would be great-But Android, Windows Mobile etc. would be fine. Or would a website work for 2.4 ghz fine tuned to the device & have it bookmarked on a browser on an android phone device for quick access but prob limited range unless there is a site you can buy a page for your special needs-Or what aouta scanner site like radio reference?. Also is there anyway to listen to the audio portion of 2.4 ghz The portion of the band used for security cameras etc. Audio would be fine-Video a bonus. Bluetooth operates somewhere in the 2.4 ghz band as well. Some phones have FM radio but that would require a major overhaul_basically starting over as the system is not set up for a FM transmitter-But it could be done. I've seen devices that use a sim card like a computer mouse that works/acts like any mouse but uses a GSM sim card-So, One calls the number assigned to the sim & gets full audio of the room with no distance limitations-But many have the disclamer "Does Not Work In USA Or Canada" Most say this-But not all. I'm wondering if this is for legal reasons & more of a formality than reality as I had a similar situation before. What would be the best GSM sim do you all think would be best? Also a finished modded unit would be fine too-But really need the reciever to be a phone-Of any type. Let me know. Thanx.
PS-I'll share results answers, PM's with anybody who asks.
Saw a phone modded & done for sale by an outfit in England for about $1,500 that was amazing. Did way more than I needed-But maybe at a later date etc. $1,500 is way out of budget-But zi'm realistic & not cheap for what I need. Prob a $300/cap.
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im pretty sure any kind of phone taps and such like that is probably illegal.
Illegal in (most) countries. And unethical.
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