Does anybody know if visionary or another one click root app is
being developed??? one that will perm root my mytouch 4g. ive been having so much trouble rooting it that i guess im just going to wait for the total one click root meathod. plus help ive looked everywhere and cant find any info on it. thanks in advance
I have no idea, but I used the video guide from unlockr.com and although it took a few more clicks than one (not many), I got it done without any major issues.
Most likely there will not be 1-click roots anymore. Protection is way too sophisticated on these newer devices. However, I rooted my replacement yesterday and it took me less then 5 min (ultimate s-off, sim-unlock, eng boot).
Good luck.
Jmayes1786 said:
Does anybody know if visionary or another one click root app is
being developed??? one that will perm root my mytouch 4g. ive been having so much trouble rooting it that i guess im just going to wait for the total one click root meathod. plus help ive looked everywhere and cant find any info on it. thanks in advance
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Where are you running into a problem? This is by far the easiest phone I have ever rooted. It took like 5 or 10 minutes if that.
Im looking for something similar...the problem for me is I don't have a computer to connect to. Just my phone.
Any solutions?
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I used Visionary+ with root files and terminal emulator and it took less than 5 minutes for permaroot, s=off. It really is very easy.
I also started rooting way back on a G1 and remember the first time rooting took me almost a week of reading up and more than 2 hours to accomplish just the root!
Ok basically when I download the root.rar file I right click on it which creates another root file our whatever I drag it over to my sd and when I unplug from my lap top I open astro and there is the root folder or file or whatever it is so I open terminal emulator get su permission and type the first command + enter and it says something to the effect like sh file not found or in astro if I click the wpx or hboot it says they are not file. Can someone please tell me when im doing wrong with this root folder? Thanks in advance.....
You are running Visionary first and clicking temp root right??
I know that akaskriller.com has a one touch root. Dont know if its perm root or temp root. You can check out his videos on youtube and he has his own web site. Last time I checked, there was a 5 dollar donation to get access to the link on his site and it seems to work pretty well. You can email him and ask him questions and even call him. He's always willing to help. I think there's even a thread on here about him. Check it out.
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Ok basically when I download the root.rar file I right click on it which creates another root file our whatever I drag it over to my sd and when I unplug from my lap top I open astro and there is the root folder or file or whatever it is so I open terminal emulator get su permission and type the first command + enter and it says something to the effect like sh file not found or in astro if I click the wpx or hboot it says they are not file. Can someone please tell me when im doing wrong with this root folder? Thanks in advance.....
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Stop! Do not turn this into another one of your "I can't root" threads.
Enjoy stock phone or get an iPhone..... you obviously do not have the brains or patience to learn.
Ok thank u for ur insult I will take that with a grain if salt. I am now rooted. Apparently there was a issue with my girlfriends lap top that is I could never get the correct root filer on my sd.this is not my first root anyway but the only only were her stupid lap top acted a donkey.
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I also started rooting way back on a G1 and remember the first time rooting took me almost a week of reading up and more than 2 hours to accomplish just the root!
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Lol, yeah, dreaming.nbh, that separated the men from the noobs.
This phone is stupid easy to root, grankin put out an .sh file that does it all in terminal for you. Much easier than when I did it when root first dropped, though it still wasn't very hard then. Listen, this may sound like an insult to you though I really don't mean it as one, but if you can't get root following grankin's thread, root just isn't meant for you. Once you have root, its so easy to mess up your phone if your not paying attention to what you're doing. All you need is terminal and VISIONary.
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Lol, yeah, dreaming.nbh, that separated the men from the noobs.
This phone is stupid easy to root, grankin put out an .sh file that does it all in terminal for you. Much easier than when I did it when root first dropped, though it still wasn't very hard then. Listen, this may sound like an insult to you though I really don't mean it as one, but if you can't get root following grankin's thread, root just isn't meant for you. Once you have root, its so easy to mess up your phone if your not paying attention to what you're doing. All you need is terminal and VISIONary.
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Couldn't agree anymore.
Rooting is a process that enables you to completely FUBAR your phone. IF you cannot get the directions down to root the phone. Then you really need to second guess Rooting the phone.
As far as the root.sh file and the unroot.sh files they are stored in a .rar format. You need a special unzipper to extract those files. I bet your GF's Computer didn't have that.
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Couldn't agree anymore.
Rooting is a process that enables you to completely FUBAR your phone. IF you cannot get the directions down to root the phone. Then you really need to second guess Rooting the phone.
As far as the root.sh file and the unroot.sh files they are stored in a .rar format. You need a special unzipper to extract those files. I bet your GF's Computer didn't have that.
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I've rooted a couple G1s, and my Nexus One (ha!) but I think the problem with this one is that there are several posts detailing how to root, and they are a bit confusing (where do I start? What do I really need? Was it temp or permanent?). Maybe some cleaning up of ALL of those threads and leaving just the ONE that truly details it would be a lot better (and listing if "ultimate S=off" is truly required). So yes, it may be super easy for those of us that have done this a lot, but for a noob the thread count is entirely too high.
If you're having so much trouble rooting......DON'T ROOT. It isn't for you and you'll just end up bricking your phone then asking for help here.
Do you really need a permanent root?
Student Driver is right when he pleads for a single set of instructions - the multiple sets are confusing for those without the experience to sort out the abbreviations, other shorthand, and implicit steps.
But permanent root might not be necessary for everybody. If all you want to do is eliminate the effect of bloatware on speed and battery life, you can use Visionary (free) and Titanium Backup Pro ($5.99). Set Visionary to temp-root on every reboot, and create a list ("label") of applications you want "frozen" under "Batch" in the menu in Titanium Pro. Then the user can remove the bloatware after every re-boot by starting Titanium Pro and carrying out the batch operation of "freezing" the stored "label." [It would be nice if someone wrote an app that did all this automatically--that is, temp root + freeze unwanted apps--on reboot right after Visionary did its thing] It takes longer to get the phone back in service on a reboot when you do all this, but there's no worry about bricking the phone or about making it impossible to upgrade, because all of the apps are retained, although not in use, and these processes can be automatically undone on the next re-boot.
This may be a reasonable solution to the effects of bloatware on speed and battery life for those who don't re-boot frequently and are satisfied with the stock ROM.
all of the guides are very easy to follow. If my wife can root her phone, and she has no Android tech background I'm sure anyone can
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Student Driver is right when he pleads for a single set of instructions - the multiple sets are confusing for those without the experience to sort out the abbreviations, other shorthand, and implicit steps.
But permanent root might not be necessary for everybody. If all you want to do is eliminate the effect of bloatware on speed and battery life, you can use Visionary (free) and Titanium Backup Pro ($5.99). Set Visionary to temp-root on every reboot, and create a list ("label") of applications you want "frozen" under "Batch" in the menu in Titanium Pro. Then the user can remove the bloatware after every re-boot by starting Titanium Pro and carrying out the batch operation of "freezing" the stored "label." [It would be nice if someone wrote an app that did all this automatically--that is, temp root + freeze unwanted apps--on reboot right after Visionary did its thing] It takes longer to get the phone back in service on a reboot when you do all this, but there's no worry about bricking the phone or about making it impossible to upgrade, because all of the apps are retained, although not in use, and these processes can be automatically undone on the next re-boot.
This may be a reasonable solution to the effects of bloatware on speed and battery life for those who don't re-boot frequently and are satisfied with the stock ROM.
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Freezing apps after temp root with TB will persist through reboots. All work is done in /data partition which is set to rw by default. If all you want to do is remove bloat - then no, you don't need to permanently root.
PS. You might want to detach frozen apps from the market as well so they don't update and re-enable themselves.
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So I'm rooted on my Evo and as far as I can tell I've flashed the stock rom that should allow me to uninstall the bloatware, however, I dont see any uninstall options for that crap like facebook.
Anything I'm doing wrong?
I followed this guide to root and flash. I've tested my root using the "Terminal Emulator" and typing "su" and it returned a "#"
Thanks XDA, I love most of you
You know you need to uninstall from your computer using adb
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I've installed Android Debug Bridge but I was under the impression that rooting my phone would allow me to do things on my phone, such as install and uninstall what I want.
Could you explain the process more or send me to a link that does?
If you want to do it in android you either need console program or a file manager. Root explorer us the best one and easiest. Looks just like a typical explorer, tap the rw/ro button for read only or read write and delete away.
You have to have completed the second part of unlocking nand. Otherwise your only option is using a computer and adb in recovery.
They dont make this easy do they? I would have figured Android to be very open for things like this, I'm starting to feel like I have to "jailbreak" again, only this time it's to remove crap.
This seems like so much work to get rid of facebook and sprint tv.
It took me 10 minutes total including the file downloads. Its a one time thing and there is a learning curve with any new platform.
Aridon, is there a free explorer you'd recommend? I dont mind buying software, just want to make sure I'm not mistaken before I buy something that is worthless to me.
You get a trial on any purchased software in android. After its installed if you go backto market and pull it up again there will be a refund option. So no risk. I think its for 24 hours.
As for a free one I'm not sure when I first started messing around with android I bought it because people said it was the best. I don't have any regrets.
Just remember to tap the top button for rw. Long press brings up options. Menu had an option for multiple file select and other goodies. its very powerful.
Aridon, thanks for everything, just 1 more question. I bought it, and the program is slick. I went to /system/app and deleted facebook, is that all I need to do?
Cause I still see it in the menu
I may have done a bad thing, my phone just reset itself.... I need a trainer to be with me at all times.
So after that restart, the files I thought I deleted are back.
Yes just go into system/app, make sure it says rw up top which means read write access, then select the file, general an .apk and .odex and delete. Not all files have both and some roms don't have any .odex files.
I'll be up for another 30 min or so and I'll keep an eye on this thread in case you have any questions.
Ok that means the second part where you unlocked nand wasn't done correctly. Make sure you go slow, download the files again because they are different and watch for errors.
The only hiccup I had was when I copied the new recovery and other files to my sd and tried to adb push it gave me some kind of can't find file error. I had to reboot and it was fine. It send after the boot I could go back in and adb the files it must have been some kind if a refresh error on the sd while in recovery.
Edit. I'm responding on my evo and in bed so excuse errors.
Go to sleep, I'll resume this thread tomorrow if I'm still having trouble. You Sir, are a life saver. This is why XDA is THE FORUM for anything mobile.
Good night then.
I know it can be a bit of a pain to do this but I promise you it will be worth it. Things have only just started and the custom roms are already awesome. Once we get the source code things are going to be insane over here.
Got it! Everything is working well. However, now my voice mail says it can not download messages.... Rebooted and it's all good.
Facebook and Twitter Free! Also, no more Sprint crap.
Life is good, again.
Another terminal substitute is Android Commander, out is naturally a file explorer that allows transfer and deletion off whatever you want. This program runs in your pc.
As Was mentioned above, root explorer is the easiest way.
Aridon said:
If you want to do it in android you either need console program or a file manager. Root explorer us the best one and easiest. Looks just like a typical explorer, tap the rw/ro button for read only or read write and delete away.
You have to have completed the second part of unlocking nand. Otherwise your only option is using a computer and adb in recovery.
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So with Android - one simply deletes the application rather than un-installing it? That doesn't cause problems with the system thinking the application still exists somewhere?
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So with Android - one simply deletes the application rather than un-installing it? That doesn't cause problems with the system thinking the application still exists somewhere?
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It depends on where it is installed. /system/apps do not allow you to just uninstall you have to delete it. One this is done its gone. Obviously if you delete phone.apk you are going to have issues or if you delete a process that is running you may get a force close but for the most part unless you delete an app like people or dialer you are fine. After the single force close everything works properly.
Some custom roms moved programs to /data/app which allows them to be removed the other way.
I'm sure there are some frustrated Incredible owners here that are upset after the last OTA update and really don't want to go through this again until they know for sure what is in the update, so I did some searching and found out how to disable future updates in your Dinc. I understand that you don't have to run the update but the constant nagging from the update and waiting for the solution to disable it is frustrating so. I found this on CDMA GURUS
Edit: 11/26/11 This new method comes from iowabowtech and so far this has worked. Thank you iowabowtech!
-Open Root Explorer and make sure you're mounted as Read/Write.
-Navigate to /system and long press on build.prop, then select the "Open in text editor" option and look for a similar line that specifically includes the xxxxxx:/user. Edit that line to this:
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.3.4/GRJ22/222219:user/release-keys
This should make the phone think it's up to date. That said though, I doubt there will be any more updates to this phone.
Alternate method
This method had been known to make the data run constantly so I suggest that you freeze your downloads with a program called "anttek". If you go to download something to your phone, you will have to unfreeze downloads first. This seems to improve battery life also.
To turn OFF future OTA updates, there is a file in the /system/etc/security folder. The file is named "otacerts.zip". Rename it "otacerts.zip.bak", or whatever you want. That will prevent future updates.
You can change that filename using ADB, the root explorer app, or a terminal emulator app of choice right on your DROID. I use root explorer because it is easy and fast. But that's just me...
Using Root Explorer... If you are using Root Explorer to do this and it says "the file system is read only" Just touch the white button at the top that says "mount r/w" and then try it again.
If you are here trying to figure out how to disable the notification for the update you already have (for Froyo) but have not installed yet, then that's in another thread. Here it is... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836120
thanks for the tip! i tried using root explorer like you, but its telling me the .zip (and anything pertaining to security folder for that matter) is read only and denying me access to rename. how'd you get past this?
heathhandsome said:
thanks for the tip! i tried using root explorer like you, but its telling me the .zip (and anything pertaining to security folder for that matter) is read only and denying me access to rename. how'd you get past this?
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You have to click the Mount R/W up in the top right
heathhandsome said:
thanks for the tip! i tried using root explorer like you, but its telling me the .zip (and anything pertaining to security folder for that matter) is read only and denying me access to rename. how'd you get past this?
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Not a problem!
Thanks for the tip..quick and easy!
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Thanks for the tip..quick and easy!
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Yep! I haven't had any notifications for an update at all! Just gotta get this in before the update reaches you.
any other methods to do this? I dont have RE or ADB. Can I use astro? Sorry noob here
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any other methods to do this? I dont have RE or ADB. Can I use astro? Sorry noob here
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If you are new to this, then the easiest way to do this is with Root Explorer. It's only a few bucks and it is WELL WORTH IT!!! You can do so many things with RE.
This could come in handy right about now.
Thanks for the tip!
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any other methods to do this? I dont have RE or ADB. Can I use astro? Sorry noob here
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Another noob asks: adb is free, right? (or Android Commander for windows) I want to save my precious bucks to donate to ROM authors.
ps. OP is 2010--seems like the 2011 fix is the same. Correct?
ADB is free. Since I can't post links, if you Google "what is adb and how to install it" the first hit should be an addictivetips article that got me started.
As for a free app that will do the job right on the phone, ES File Explorer is free and works well for me.
So this is definitely useful, except there are threads that claim this messes with battery life as the phone will continually download the update, it will fail whatever check otacerts.zip does, and try again.
- http://androidforums.com/droid-all-things-root/60085-otacerts-zip-bak-will-drain-battery-life.html
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=700577
This says it didn't block a recent OTA on the Thunderbolt:
http://teambamf.net/showthread.php/2571-Does-renaming-otacerts.zip-block-ota
If I keep ignoring for now, will it come to a point where VZW can force the push and mess up my root?
So just for clarification, does this prevent it from downloading the update or just prevent it from notifying you?
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So just for clarification, does this prevent it from downloading the update or just prevent it from notifying you?
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It prevents the download. The post up above says that your phone will try to download the update over and over if you rename the otacerts and I have actually experienced this. I downloaded an app called "anttek" and fixed this issue by freezing downloads. Whenever I go to download something, I have to unfreeze downloads but that is no big deal because I hardly ever download anything to my phone. Also, I have experienced better battery life with the downloads frozen, up time is at 18 hours and I still have 25% battery left on a standard battery.
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It prevents the download. The post up above says that your phone will try to download the update over and over if you rename the otacerts and I have actually experienced this. I downloaded an app called "anttek" and fixed this issue by freezing downloads. Whenever I go to download something, I have to unfreeze downloads but that is no big deal because I hardly ever download anything to my phone. Also, I have experienced better battery life with the downloads frozen, up time is at 18 hours and I still have 25% battery left on a standard battery.
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Surely there is a better solution than this. As it stands I can't use my AOSP rom (inc deck) because of the constant battery drain induced by the constant downloading. I dont find the above solution a compelling one, and considering there's no real way to accept an update on AOSP roms it looks like I'm going back to sense for now.
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Surely there is a better solution than this. As it stands I can't use my AOSP rom (inc deck) because of the constant battery drain induced by the constant downloading. I dont find the above solution a compelling one, and considering there's no real way to accept an update on AOSP roms it looks like I'm going back to sense for now.
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I'm sure there is a better solution, but I don't know it.
-Open Root Explorer and make sure you're mounted as Read/Write.
-Navigate to /system and long press on build.prop, then select the "Open in text editor" option and look for a similar line that specifically includes the xxxxxx:/user. Edit that line to this:
ro.build.fingerprint=verizon_wwe/inc/inc/inc:2.3.4/GRJ22/222219:user/release-keys
This should make the phone think it's up to date. That said though, I doubt there will be any more updates to this phone.
thanks! wish I'd read this about 4 days ago!
I am using Redemption ROM 2.3 and changing that line did nothing for me. I still get the nag. I've rebooted twice and dismissed the update at least 10 times.
Anyone?
I've considered rooting and installing a custom ROM dozens of times ever since I got my Droid X back in August and I've finally decided I'm just going to do it, but i just want to double check a few things before I root my phone and install Fission:
1. I know that rooting voids your warranty, but if I have problems with my phone and I end up needing repairs, can I just unroot my phone back to stock and still have my phone be covered under the warranty?
2. Will my phone be secure rooted with a custom ROM? I don't want people having access to my personal info contact data, and my passwords.
3. If I Overclock to say 1.2 or 1.3 Ghz with ULV, will I have stability problems with demanding 3D games or other demanding apps?
4. After I root and install my Custom Rom, will I need to reactivate my phone or need to re-add my phone contacts/apps?
5. Will Z4Root work on system version 2.3.340?
I have unrooted and exchanged under warranty with no problems. Your phone will be just as secure. 1.2-1.3 are very stable on my phone. If you do have to reactivate it's as easy as dialing *228 and following the prompts. If your contacts are "google" contacts they'll return to your phonebook. Your apps from the market shall return without a problem. And yes, z4root will work with your system version.
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I am having difficulty rooting my droid x. I am an android noob, but am a pretty savvy user. I used z4 (permanant) and it says it has been rooted when i launch the app. However i see no appreciable difference in access. My terminal still shows a $ prompt and i cannot uninstall verizons crapware. I used rage against the cage prior to z4 with similar results, but i was able to at least get temporary su access and install the bootstrap recovery and perform a system level backup. It reverted to user access after rebooting. Please help.
Superuser confirmation
alright, if you want super user privileges in terminal type "su", then once you hit enter, you get "#" instead of "$" To test if you have root access, first check app drawer for "Superuser" if its there, open an app that requires it, (wifi teather, root explorer, rom manager to name a few) you should get a pop up similar to this
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...=1&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&biw=888&bih=638
that would be a diffinitive confirmation that you have superuser permissions.
The way I remove verizons crap once rooted, is to use root explorer, go to system/app and find the .apk files you want to remove. There are lists around the forums what is safe to remove. I highly recommend simply renaming the files. For example, the 3g hotspot app is called mynet.apk, so I would just rename it to mynet.bak, or mynet.apk.bak, really anything that lets you know what it is, but removes the .apk extension.
Ok, I have confirmed su access, but am unable to rename any of the offending .apk's. I am simply told that the operation was unsuccessful. I have tried a couple of different file managers, as well as trying from a terminal, still no luck. I like 2.2.1 alright, but if i can't control what apps are running on my phone with root access, I may want another ROM. Any suggestions are appreciated, aswell as any links to a rom installer that is pc-less.
I usually rename apk's from Root Explorer, just prefer the graphical interface, so I can't really help you on the terminal process.
Rom manager is "pc-less" although most roms are posted in forums first it is often the easiest route, also lets you make backups and restore. There are a few posts around on how to install a rom you might want to read first. Also, you should find the thread for the rom before you flash it, in favor of size and speed, some developers go down to bare minimum and may remove something you need/want.
I have not used it, but I hear Titanium Backup allows you to "Freeze" apps, so that is a possible route also.
2.2.1 is not exclusive to people running official vzw builds, many of the roms on the forum (and rom manager) are running 2.2.1, so you will not be taking a step back to an earlier release.
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I usually rename apk's from Root Explorer, just prefer the graphical interface, so I can't really help you on the terminal process.
Rom manager is "pc-less" although most roms are posted in forums first it is often the easiest route, also lets you make backups and restore. There are a few posts around on how to install a rom you might want to read first. Also, you should find the thread for the rom before you flash it, in favor of size and speed, some developers go down to bare minimum and may remove something you need/want.
I have not used it, but I hear Titanium Backup allows you to "Freeze" apps, so that is a possible route also.
2.2.1 is not exclusive to people running official vzw builds, many of the roms on the forum (and rom manager) are running 2.2.1, so you will not be taking a step back to an earlier release.
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If you are trying to rename apps in the /system/app portion of the OS, you will need to mount /system as RW first.
from terminal: mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
After it has been mounted read-write, you should be able to rename...
to remount as read-only: mount -o ro,remount /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
zwade01 said:
I have unrooted and exchanged under warranty with no problems. Your phone will be just as secure. 1.2-1.3 are very stable on my phone. If you do have to reactivate it's as easy as dialing *228 and following the prompts. If your contacts are "google" contacts they'll return to your phonebook. Your apps from the market shall return without a problem. And yes, z4root will work with your system version.
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Thank you for your response. Just out of curiosity, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have to reactivate your phone after rooting and installing a custom ROM? I'd rather not have to re-activate my phone every time I want to update a ROM or change to a different ROM.
Thank all of you for the great info. Here's what I've learned after a day of rooting and romming: titanium freezes apps only in the paid version, z4 was the most user friendly app for rooting noobs, milestone overclock works well if you have the patience to lock up your phone several times finding the right settings, and I'm digging apeX 1.3.1. Thx to everyone for your help, i will definately be checking here frequently. One last question: where might i find a side by side comparo of roms with things like features and memory footprint, etc.? Or am I asking for too much. Im not scared of the search button, but i will defer to the more experienced of you. Thanks again.
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Thank you for your response. Just out of curiosity, did you (or anyone else for that matter) have to reactivate your phone after rooting and installing a custom ROM? I'd rather not have to re-activate my phone every time I want to update a ROM or change to a different ROM.
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I used rom manager to load apeX 1.3.1 and did not need to #228. I did not clear the user data or cache, but I do not know if that affected my results or not. Your mileage may vary.
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Thank all of you for the great info. Here's what I've learned after a day of rooting and romming: titanium freezes apps only in the paid version, z4 was the most user friendly app for rooting noobs, milestone overclock works well if you have the patience to lock up your phone several times finding the right settings, and I'm digging apeX 1.3.1. Thx to everyone for your help, i will definately be checking here frequently. One last question: where might i find a side by side comparo of roms with things like features and memory footprint, etc.? Or am I asking for too much. Im not scared of the search button, but i will defer to the more experienced of you. Thanks again.
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I don't know that anyone has really done a side by side per say. Since you say you are apeX, then if you are looking for more ROM's that contain blur features, then I would recommend looking into ZapX Bazinga, or Fusion (from the same creator as Fission, but just with blur). I have not worked with any of the Blur ROM's so far...
If you are looking for ROM's that do not have blur, then the big ones are Liberty, Fission 2.5.7, GummyJar 2.5, and Rubix Focused 1.9.5. Liberty is the big one right now, because it just came out and combines the great talents of Kejar31 and Jrummy. Most others I believe are using Fission. All are great choices, as the dev's do some AMAZING work.
Each has their owns unique feel...so I woudl recommend just digging through each thread for their respective ROM's as they usually include what components are built into each ROM on the original post of each thread.
Hope this helps somewhat =)
another ROM to try is DarkSlide. It comes in both flavors, Blurred & Blurless. It's fast, stable & well supported. You only have to re-activate if you wind up bricking your phone & have to flash an SBF. My advice it to spend the $$ on DroidXBootstrapper (available in the market) to make a nandroid backup prior to flashing your new ROM. This way you have a base to go back to in the event you run into problems, or want to try multiple ROMS. One other suggestion is to rename each backup into something that will let you know what the backup actually is, like StockROMBU or the like.
Could somebody please tell me what the advantages and disadvantages of rooting the flipside are, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, are there any risks??
Will I be able to take of all of these ATT apps?
Will I be able to move my apps from the phones memory to the SD card?
Can the phone be unrooted?
Will all of my apps still work?
What is the best route to root? I have the z4root.
I am much indebted to anyone who will answer these questions. Thanks.
z4root will work fine, it's nice an easy to use. Rooting won't give you an easy way to move apps to the sd card, but you can remove the AT&T (and other system) apps. You can either do it by hand, or with any number of apps on the market. I prefer titanium backup, personally. All of your existing apps will work, there's no change there.
The only real disadvantage is that you'll have the power to screw up your phone. You can potentially screw up bad enough that you'll need to reflash the stock .sbf file. Generally, this takes some real screwing around, but just thought I'd point it out.
Thank u for your thourough answer. What do you mean by screw it up. How could I do that and how do i avoid it. Are you saying by virtue of the fact that i'm rooting that i'll screw it up, or it's something that i may do afterwards that may do it? Thanks.
also, are there any other advantages to rooting other than taking off the apps?
The act of rooting itself shouldn't screw anything up, but having root means you could possibly do something later that would. Generally, you'd have to be messing with stuff you have no business messing with. With root, you can remount the system directory as read/write, and then end up deleting or modifying a file that won't let the phone boot, which means you'd need to reflash. Stay away from the command line if you don't know what you're doing, and don't grant root access to apps you don't trust, and you're reasonably safe.
Other than removing system apps, like the AT&T garbage, you can also backup and restore apps and their data, which is great for if you need to reflash, if you switch phones, etc. There's not a TON of stuff that requires root, but honestly, removing the AT&T junk is definitely a good reason to root, the phone feels much faster after scrapping a lot of the blur and AT&T stuff.
I'm assuming then that any android/att/Motorola updates will not be problem either? BTW, do you if and when Motorola will bupdating the flipside to 2.2? Thanks.
There shouldn't be any problem updating with an official update if/when we get one, but you'll need to re-root and remove the AT&T stuff again. There's no word on when we'll get 2.2, but I'd assume we'll get it at some point.
Ok. I just rooted! Yeah, it worked! But i cannot figue out how to delete the att bloatware. I go into the apps manager and click on one of the att apps, and there is still no option to uninstall; only to clear the cache. Also, I downloaded the titanium and I cannot figure out how to do it from there either. Plus, I still had to sideload the titanium which i tbought that i would not have to do once i rooted.
mordechai said:
Plus, I still had to sideload the titanium which i tbought that i would not have to do once i rooted.
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You need to enable Unknown Sources before you can install non-Market apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867637
This is also an example of how you can mess up your phone by having root access.
That is part of the problem that i do not have that option in two.one. that is why i had to sideload all of those programs. are you saying that i screwed up my phone. i tried clicking on the link but this googlw ad comes up and i cant get past it.
Ok, i got through to the link. But the guy seems pretty shaky as to whether you should follow his instructions. Is this legit or what?
Maybe one of you guys can help. I'm new to alot of this but my last droid x was rooted and it was great I used z4root worked perfectly. But now I have a new X and a z4root apk. On my laptop, now what? Last rooted X, I was fortunate enough to catch z4root on the market, like a day before they updated. HELP!!!!!
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There are instructions in another post in this forum on how to enable Non-Market Apps, also known as Unknown Sources. With Titanium Backup, make sure that you grant it root permissions when it asks, and that it says something like this on the overview:
Root access: OK (BusyBox 1.17.2 from system)
HyperShell (FAST!): YES
Fast/Auto app install: Yes (using HyperShell)
SQLite: YES (SQLite 3.7.2 included)
Then just click on Backup/Restore at the top, and you'll get a list of all your apps. If you don't have backup/restore at the top, your sd card isn't mounted on the phone, unplug your usb cable and hit Menu > More > Reload application.
From Backup/Restore, you get a huge list of all the apps on your phone. Just scroll down to the AT&T stuff, tap them, and click uninstall in the top-right corner. If you're not sure if you want to uninstall something, because it might belong to something important, click Freeze instead. Freezing will stop the app from running, and stop it from showing up in your tray, but you can easily unfreeze it to restore it if it turns out it was important.
Here's the list of stuff I have frozen/uninstalled:
AdService 1.0
all of the "AT&T" apps
all of the "com.motorola" apps
Data Manager and Data Manager Service
Help Center
Home (I use ADWLauncher, don't remove this if you don't already have an alternative launcher installed)
MediaSync
Mobile Video
all of the "MotoBlur" apps
My Uploads
Phone Portal
Quick Contact
Social Messaging, Social Messaging Service, Social Networking, and Social Status
Sticky Note
Video Editor Lite
Vlingo Voice
Weather 2.1
WHERE
Work Contacts
Mobile Banking
Magic Smoke Wallpapers
Kodak Perfect Touch
AT&T Address Book
Quickoffice
YPmobile
As for enabling unknown sources, it's a bit of a pain, you'll need to be comfortable with a command line to do replace the files, and comfortable with a hex editor if you want to edit your own instead of reusing someone else's files. I managed to screw up my phone in the process and had to completely reflash and start over, it wasn't fun.
His instructions do work, but his .sh file doesn't work, you'll need to paste the commands one by one into your command prompt. I preferred to edit my own files, so I wouldn't have the same market ID, and that's just slightly more complex. I can help you through it either way though, just make a post over in that thread if you're having problems.
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Maybe one of you guys can help. I'm new to alot of this but my last droid x was rooted and it was great I used z4root worked perfectly. But now I have a new X and a z4root apk. On my laptop, now what? Last rooted X, I was fortunate enough to catch z4root on the market, like a day before they updated. HELP!!!!!
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You just need to get z4root installed on your phone, it should be pretty straightforward. The Droid X shouldn't be blocking non-market apps, so just download it from your phone and run the .apk to install.
So do I hook my phone up to my laptop, and put the apk. on my sd?
Or download the apk. directly to my phone from the site?
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I found the link, but the directions are too complicated for my novice understanding of technology. It looks like I am stuck. I don't want to try what he's saying and take any chances. Are there any other alternatives? Or do you have any other suggestions as to how to make the most of the space that I do have with the att bloatware, because I am constantly running out of room. It is a strange phenomenon that I don't understand, that when I turn on the phone it will have around 40mb to play with, and after a few hours it is down to 16 and then 10, and then before I know it, the phone is telling me that my memory is full. So then I reset and it's back to ~40 again. Do you have an explanation? Thanks.
I have a MyTouch 4G on the way.
I plan to just keep it stock, but I want to root and remove some bloatware and run some programs that require root.
What's the best/easiest way to permanent root if I'm not going to experiment with alternative ROMs?
I'd really like the least invasive way. I want something so that I can still get the next OTA without going through hoops getting the system back to a way to accept the OTA.
What about just using Visionary with it set up to temproot at each reboot? Any reason that wouldn't get me what I want? If I do that do I have to accept superuser permissions for all root programs after each reboot? I can see that being a PITA.
This belongs in the Q&A forums
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Apologies, I'll ask someone to move.
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The only way that you can remove the bloat ware is to root the phone and turn the s-off. If you just run VISIONary and leave s-on you aren't making any changes. you are just hiding or freezing the applications. If you do turn the security protocol off you can truly delete the apps you do not want. With that being said ./gfree is the simplest and most effective. You will need to have the adb up and running. I have a link to True_blue's EZ/ADB in my signature. Takes like 120 seconds to get it up and running....
I'm not really looking to delete the apps necessarily. If I free them, they disappear and don't start up/load in memory. That might be find for my needs.
Anyhow, I don't see anything in your sig. What's the link you refer to? Is there a page with formal instructions for using ./grfree?
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Takes like 120 seconds to get it up and running....
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I bet you sat there & time it......
Anywho, I think This Is The ADB thread Neidlinger was referring to.
Edit: I used This Method for my permaroot, so you can check that thread out if you want as well.