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[Q] Developing on Device

I have programmed in java for quite some time, and am decent at android apps.
However, i have two questions about developing on my device (rooted samsung captivate).
First, how can i get dev tools to run correctly on my phone. I have installed it as stated in "developer.android com/guide/developing/debug-tasks html#additionaldebugging". However, when clicking on Dev Settings it crashed with HARDWARE_TEST security exception. I have read that you need to sign/run it as system.
Is it possible to run it on my rooted captivate? if so how do i install it as system or find the system signature to sign it.
My other question is about programing, compiling, and running android applications from a device. I can take my .apk and unzip it. Then edit any resource files. Then rezip and sign it. However if i want to replace the actual code i need to compile it. I can use an online java compiler but i need to convert it to android format.
I know that dx.bat does this by using dx.jar . I can add dx.jar to the referenced libraries of my app. However i cant figure out what to do past there. Is what i am attempting even possible?
Thanks for your help.

There's a couple threads in this forum from folks like me who want to do this. Perhaps you can help us figure it out
Step one is I think to get an java compiler running on the phone. Then to make a version of DX that can run on the phone to convert the class to .apk

Thanks. in normal java programs you can use "com.sun.tools.javac.Main.compile( new String[] {args} );" found in the "<sdk>/lib/tools.jar" to compile a program. And dx.jar is what is used to covert it to android, however i do not know what to call in it.
We just need to find a way to get these jars to work on android.

SDK, NDK, C++, Java

Hi
i opened a thread a while ago, but i can't find it anymore. So here my new questions i got.
Sorry for these noob questions but i need a start
So:
What is exactly the difference between a SDK and a NDK.
And why became it possible to programm in c++ for android when the NDK came out?
Is there a difference between the possibilities regarding Android, depending on programming in c++ or java?
thx for your help

eaglesuper said:
What is exactly the difference between a SDK and a NDK.
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SDK is the main development kit for Android apps - it contains tools for Java and resources (png, xml) compiling, packaging to apk file, installing, running and debugging them on a device, an emulator, documentation, etc., etc. NDK is a set of tools to compile C code to shared lib, which you could use in your app - and that's all.
You could create an app using SDK only - most of apps does that. However you can't do it using NDK only, because you can't run or publish .so library just like that - you have to use SDK to integrate your library with the rest of an app.
eaglesuper said:
And why became it possible to programm in c++ for android when the NDK came out?
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I don't understand your question.
eaglesuper said:
Is there a difference between the possibilities regarding Android, depending on programming in c++ or java?
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Java is the main language for Android development, so it has access to all APIs, also OS requires you to use Java in some places, e.g. when using Android UI. But NDK gets more and more APIs, so it's now possible to develop nearly whole app in C.

Hi,
thanks for your reply! You helped me a lot!
If i combine the beginning of your posting and the last few setences, is that conclusion correct:
I can develop nowadays nearly the whole app on c++ for example. With NDK and C++ i can only make libraries. Then i have to "arrange" them and test them and therefore i need Java?
And how different is Java and c++? Cause i always wanted to learn c++.
But in nowadays world i have the feeling that it's so old (no online stuff like java and php).
So does it still make sense to learn c++?

A word on my SDK... It keeps intentionally writing the wrong code on the status window for the emulator device...
"invalid command-line parameter: Files\android-sdk-windows\tools/emulator-arm.exe.
Hint: use '@foo' to launch a virtual device named 'foo'.
please use -help for more information"
Isn't it supposed to be: Files\android-sdk-windows\tools\emulator-arm.exe? Instead, its "/" is in the wrong direction. WTF?
Is this something with SDK? Or something else all together. I have a few .apk's to test (built in Eclipse) and I am unable to open the emulator to test. I would really like to have some input. Thanks in advance.

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=18317
Here:
steps to solve the problem:
1. click 'Window' in Eclipse
2. clcik 'Preferences' and 'Android'
3. set 'SDK Location' to 'C:\PROGRA~1\Android\android-sdk'
4. click 'Apply' and 'OK'
That's it.
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eaglesuper said:
Hi
Is there a difference between the possibilities regarding Android, depending on programming in c++ or java?
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well java is a VM based based programming lang. c++ is a native language. the difference is that java gets compiled to VM byte code. These byte codes are the same for every android phone out there. the VM takes the byte codes and executes them (there is more, just a quick overview). since every phone has an implementation of the Dalvik VM (the one used for Android) then every application written in java can be run essentially the same on all devices.
c++ is compiled for specific hardware in mind. it gets compiled to cpu instructions. if you compile a c++ binary for a x86 machine its not going to run on an ARM based platform. since there are soo many different ARM based platforms, TI OMAP, snapdragon, tegra 2, etc, each with a slightly different implementation of the ARM standard there is an amount of incompatibility in compiled binaries.

[Q] binary in android

alright finally i made up my mind for making android CLI app
now i want to make an app on linux , i can simply write a small CPP program
but what about android (Especially acer iconia)?
how should i begin
what are the tools required?
Thanks in advance

Not sure what your asking for exactly.
But if you have not developer.android.com. is a place you MUST Visit for all things android..

Android doesn't really work with CLI... You'll probably have to go with a GUI, and most apps are written in Java (other languages are somewhat tricky, as you have to use the JNI or IPC to use most android libs)... as mentioned above, you'll get the required tools on developer.android.com. Other than that: Android's libc is fundamentally broken, with many standard functions being unavailable or misbehaving -- a major cause of headaches.

i am talking in general
for example "Busybox"
its written in C/C++
i just wanna know how to compile my own C code for android

Busybox is a bit different, as it's not a user fronting app. For something like that, just cross compile to arm. I believe theres one in the ndk:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/ndk/index.html
You'll need the ndk for user fronting apps with c code as well, btw.
you can use other cross compilers as well:
https://sourcery.mentor.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release324

aman11dhanpat said:
alright finally i made up my mind for making android CLI app
now i want to make an app on linux , i can simply write a small CPP program
but what about android (Especially acer iconia)?
how should i begin
what are the tools required?
Thanks in advance
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Hello, and welcome to the exciting world of Android Development! *insert sparkles*
In the Android world, CLI apps aren't the most popular. Making an app with a GUI would be a much easier starting point to some extent.
What you'll need:
1. A computer with the necessary software installed. This can be a Linux, Mac, or even Windows machine. In the case of a Windows machine, be sure you have the correct drivers installed. With the Linux machine, be sure you have the correct udev rules for the Iconia. Install the Android SDK. Install Eclipse, and the Android plugin.
It sounds like you want to run some native code as well. Use the Android NDK. There's a nice little beginner's guide here. Every good programmer starts with their first Hello, World!
2. Preferably some experience with Java. Almost all Android apps run on the Dalvik VM.
3. Patience. A lot of patience. Compiling takes time.
4. A device to test your code on. Running in an emulator is not good enough. Enable developer debugging on your device in the settings.
Hope this helped a bit.

Thanks alot guys
now i guess i'll be able to make some of my own apps

Webtop2sd 2.0.1 with Ubuntu 12.04 Precise

I don't own the phone yet, but been looking around at rooting this phone and seeing what I could get out of it if I did when it turns up. Nothing has really interested me to root the phone. I would of rooted it for CM7 or MUIU roms but as I am getting the Laptop Dock with the phone I wouldn't be able to use the webtop as both of these roms don't have that feature.
When I was looking into the Webtop I came across this post about installing ubuntu apps onto webtop. This did get me interested. Looking into it this seem like it only works with a very dated version of Ubuntu (jaunty) because this was the last version that had armhf support.
As Ubuntu 12.04 was just released I decided to see if this version has got a armhf repo that could be used, and indeed it has.
Code:
deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
The really cool thing about this repo is it has apps like XBMC that should just work with the device.
And then it hit me. This must be the repo that the Ubuntu for Android that Canonical was showing off a few Months ago must be using.
http://youtu.be/N6eEDZva1W8
So I decided to have a dig around the repo when I came across this: abootimg.
Android devices use a special partition format to boot any
operating system on the devices. These boot-images contain
a kernel image, a ramdisk, optionally a 2nd stage boot loader
and the commandline passed to the kernel when booting.
The original mkbootimg from Android can only create these images
where abootimg can also extract and modify them.
Handling android boot images is necessary when bringing other
operating systems to android devices.
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So this is a pretty good tell tell sign that this is indeed the Ubuntu for Android that Canonical has been demoing.
As I have said I don't own the device yet but if someone wants to check this out to see if this is indeed the Ubuntu for Android repo that would be awesome.

looks like I can't post links.
Code:
deb ports.ubuntu.com/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
deb ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse
deb ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb ports.ubuntu.com/ precise-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
That is the repo but the http part is missing before ports

This sucks I can't post links. I would of had links to the repos and links to videos and to the XBMC app. I get why XDA does this but I really want to edit the OP so its got all the info.
Anyway I thought someone would of said something by now about this. This would work almost the same way as the [MOD] Full Linux (Debian) inside WebTop does but instead of using the Debian repos it would be using Ubuntu 12.04
I get the phone in a few days and it would be cool if someone could test this out. I am going to try it the second I get the phone but would be nice for someone to confirm what I suspect.

The only concern is whether you can get it to become functional without breaking Moto's modded dependencies that are stuck on Jaunty. I think a number of people have been trying to update to the newest Chrome etc and each time when getting the new repos they've killed their webtops.
I for one would love to get a newer version of Ubuntu running on this baby but information and tutorials don't seem to be forthcoming from the experts here. This might be due to the non-existence of such information, lack of time, or competitiveness. But I would love to see this if you can get it to work.
P.S. I think its really cool that you may have stumbled on the Ubuntu Unity for android on there though!!

It sure be cool to browse contacts and access system settings via unity
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

thantos said:
The only concern is whether you can get it to become functional without breaking Moto's modded dependencies that are stuck on Jaunty. I think a number of people have been trying to update to the newest Chrome etc and each time when getting the new repos they've killed their webtops.
I for one would love to get a newer version of Ubuntu running on this baby but information and tutorials don't seem to be forthcoming from the experts here. This might be due to the non-existence of such information, lack of time, or competitiveness. But I would love to see this if you can get it to work.
P.S. I think its really cool that you may have stumbled on the Ubuntu Unity for android on there though!!
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If CWM can backup and restore Webtop I will have a look into getting Unity working on the phone.
In Synaptic you can freeze/lock packages, so all I would need to do is workout the list of packages that needs to be locked and not updated.
Once I have worked that out I can make a update script to install unity and lock the packages that need locking.
I will get the phone in about a week and will probably take about 3 days to get unity working.
I will let you lot know how it goes.
I am even thinking about trying razor-qt on it. This should work really well on the phone as the DE was made to run on devices like phones.
It looks like Webtop uses GTK and doesn't use any QT packages. So installing QT apps shouldn't break any dependencies.
There are a lot of QT apps now that will install and won't break anything.
Music Players: spotify-qt and Clemetine
Video Players: VLC
These are just to name a few. If you google QT apps there is a site that list all the avable QT apps that will work with Webtop and won't conflict with any of the GTK apps and dependencies it uses.

Looking forward to it. Good luck.
Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2

Just getting the info together for when I start messing around with webtop. Also some people may find the info handy for them to have ago.
Qt-apps
http://qt-apps.org/index.php?xsortmode=high
Razor-Qt
http://www.webupd8.org/2011/12/razor-qt-new-lightweight-desktop.html
Locking Packages
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
Precise armhf Repo
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/armhf/
XBMC Armhf Package
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/armhf/xbmc
Spotify Qt (they probably don't have a Armhf version so this more and likely won't work)
Code:
# 1. Add this line to your list of repositories by
# editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
# 2. If you want to verify the downloaded packages,
# you will need to add our public key
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 4E9CFF4E
# 3. Run apt-get update
sudo apt-get update
# 4. Install spotify!
sudo apt-get install spotify-client
Clementine Armhf
http://packages.debian.org/en/sid/armhf/clementine/download
Run:
Code:
sudo apt-get install gdebi gdebi-core
This will install a program that will let you install .deb files by double clicking on them.
The apps that will work on Webtop that won't mess it up are for Armhf and use Qt (not kde-Qt). So just google for that and you should find loads of programs you will be able to run.
If its not a Qt app look at what it depends on.
Using chromium-browser as an example you can see it depends on a lot of packages that has a good chance of breaking the system. This is because its a GTK app. If it was a Qt app it wouldn't depending on as many system files/libs.

Hi, I have been working on such a port for more than a week now.
And I have thrashed the webtop countless times.
I have modified ubuntu.sh so that it loopmounts /osh from an image from the sd card; then it runs the image's original ubuntu.sh. In this way I am not limited to the 800MB size of the original /osh and I can test/swap different images quickly.
I have made a test environment using QEMU (emulating Cortex A9 and Versatile Express board) and I borrowed a recent kernel and initrd from a Linaro image.
I've been testing various distros: Archlinux for Raspberry Pi, Raspbian (which I modded into a full ARMv7a Wheezy by changing the repos), Linaro 12.04 (heavy and slow IMHO), the original Jaunty 9.04 for armel. The last one just to allow me to check the differences with the Moto's distro, file by file.
My QEMU setup is also able to boot GenTop2 and even the original webtop. But I have also an alternative setup using proot and qemu in user mode which e.g. allows me to run ARM-compiled commands directly inside a loopmounted webtop image.
In GenTop2 and in my Wheezy attempts I've also tried using a more recent, ARMHF compiled Tegra Xorg, see
http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2854 but the only thing I got from it is to display a hardware cursor on the phone - my lapdock would stay blank no matter how I play with xorg.conf.
Although in fairness I'm not a dev and still have a lot to learn. I'm just a very stubborn person. And I'm close to giving up.
My second best option so far is to run GenTop2 from a partition on my external SD. Amazing work that GenTop2 is although I'm not a fan of Gentoo - because heavy compiling and too many small writes (at "emerge sync" time) inevitably shorten the life of the phone and SD card IMHO.
Here a link for you to start (in case you don't have it already):
Analysis of webtop - https://sites.google.com/site/androidnothize/nebtop/webtop
For emulating ARM v7a with QEMU - https://wiki.linaro.org/PeterMaydell/QemuVersatileExpress
Also to boot the original webtop in QEMU, the key is to take that extra getty from /etc/event.d/console out of the way (just delete the file), then change the password for root and adas (so you can get in) - the latter task can be performed e.g. using my qemu user mode way.
good luck and good night

I don't know if this is relevant but, here is a version of Ubuntu natty "webtop construction kit": http://mafipulation.org/blagoblig/linux/atrix/index.html#webtop-kit
I have managed to run it on Blurred and CM7 roms (manually). I had to heavily edit xorg.conf to make it display on my external monitor, but there were issues with the mouse and keyboard (the movements were mirroring on the phone as well), text-antialiasing, etc.
Also, apt-get seems to be a little broken, as I have only managed to successfully install lxde but not xfce, and many other packages.
Will this help?

zomgno1 said:
I don't know if this is relevant but, here is a version of Ubuntu natty "webtop construction kit": http://mafipulation.org/blagoblig/linux/atrix/index.html#webtop-kit
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Oh yes it helps indeed.
The piece of information I was missing about the broken glibc is fundamental, and probably explain why some of my Debian Wheezy attempts were crashing the phone so badly that I needed to remove the battery before restart.
I'm going to put my hands on this yes yes.
I'll look into xorg.conf and apt-get problems, maybe I get some idea.
Thanks!
G

Bionic port
I am very interested in the progress of this thread, as the addition of the newer version should allow XBMC, which would the the killer app for me that would allow me to completely replace my netbook with my phone.
But, I have a Bionic which uses the TI OMAP4 SoC.
If you work this out, I guess it should port, as long as the OMAP4 driver is in an accessible repository and xorg.conf is modified appropriately?
There is already an ARM/OMAP4 image here:
xxxxx]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapDesktopInstallxxxxx
(remove the xxs as I still can't post links either)
seems like somehow integrating the webtop binaries into that image and using the abootimg to create it on the phone would be a possible approach?
I have some Linux skills, but I am not a dev, so this may be terribly naive!

This is all very interesting. I cant wait until this gets running on our phones. This webtop environment is a pretty special thing that moto has going on here, but I wonder, can the webtop or something of a similar nature be done on other phones? I image it could very well be, other phones certainly have the power and space requirements. I would be willing to pay quite a bit to get this running on my galaxy s2.

It would be awesome to have FULL Ubuntu 12 on our webtop !
Well, actual webtop is cool but the interface is worse than Unity.

Not sure if any of you developers that have been trying to get Precise to work by messing with the XORG but I think KHOL tried but was unsuccessful and instead decided to boot it after getting into webtop...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370176
Maybe that might be of some help?

I would love to know if anyone has gotten any where with this looks very promising I wish I could help but know very little about programming althought im trying to learn.

[TOOL] NEW! Derp -- scriptable, platform-neutral device installer

DERP (Device Environment Replacement Program)
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
initial pre-alpha version 0.001
(Aug 3, 2013)
by fattire (twitter: @fat__tire)
tldr?​
Derp is a general-purpose, platform-independent installer, written in python with wxpython, that executes .derp XML-based scripts to walk the user step-by-step through a ROM installation (or do whatever you want.) The idea is to replace text-based walkthroughs, howtos, and installation instructions by requiring a user to do almost nothing but run a .derp script and sit back. Derp walks through a series of scripted steps (as in, say, a ROM installation) and automatically does all the file downloading/adb/fastboot stuff while the user waits and maybe reads what's happening (at the script author's discretion). Derp also pre-installs and keeps Google's Android SDK tools up to date and even gives adb & fastboot a simple UI. .derp scripts are human-readable XML. Embedding bash and python is also supported in Derp, as is restricting scripts or even script parts to certain platforms. Derp runs as root on the local computer (it's an installer after all), and is open source/GPLv3 licensed. It also comes with sample scripts and a built-in tutorial for creating your own.
Still tldr? It's a script-runner thing!
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LONGER DISCUSSION...​
WARNING: RIGHT NOW, DEVELOPER TYPES ONLY! This is not for end users...yet. Hopefully people will find bugs and help fix them before an end user uses this on a “live” computer with an actual device. Again, because this is a software installer, DERP AND ITS SCRIPTS RUNS AS ROOT. Never run random .derp or .xml scripts you find on the Internet. This could screw up your device AND your computer, so... treat it just like any other script you’d (not) run as root. Also, the discussion in this forum is how Derp is supposed to work, but of course, there may be (probably are?) bugs.
THE "PROBLEM" AS I SEE IT
Working on the CM wiki, I've grown to appreciate how varied firmware install methods can be. Some devices need rooting. Some need firmware downgrades. Sometimes you can use fastboot. Other times you can’t. Some systems need to unlock the bootloader, etc. etc.
Installing this stuff can be hard. Okay, maybe not for you, but how about your mom or dad? Could your grandparents buy a device today and put CM on it themselves? There's been some chatter on the interwebs about how to make rooting and replacing firmwares easier... some kind of graphical installer seems to be the answer. But there are a million devices out there...
So people have been using text-based HOWTOs, walkthroughs, step-by-step instructions, and/or shell scripts and batch-type files to do this. I thought maybe a generic, unified scripting method might work better that gives the users readable instructions but optionally automatically does technical steps for them.
Hoping to avoid creating yet-another-standard-way-to-do-something, back in February, I searched online for generic installation solutions. But they all seemed to be platform-dependent, or weren’t licensed for general use, or looked really ridiculously complicated....
So (and big caveat here-- I'm not a programmer!) I whipped up a proof-of-concept for developers to play with to start thinking about how to address the issue. It took me a few weeks to get going, but ended up sitting collecting dust for months as I worked on other things and occasionally bothered friends to test the latest version.
Derp is not necessarily intended as any kind of final solution per se-- it’s just for further discussion/testing. A totally legit question to be answered: is this in any way even a good idea?
Let's find out.
SO WHAT IS DERP?
It's a general-purpose installer, written in python with wxpython, that executes .derp XML-based scripts to walk the user step-by-step through a ROM installation, optionally doing all the "technical stuff" like downloading files and running commands in the background. Ideally, you wouldn't have to write a long tutorial for every platform on how to do stuff-- a .derp script could BE the walkthrough.
The first thing Derp does is install the latest adb and fastboot from Google. That looks like this:
(Mac version)
Next, when you run a .derp script, it can automatically download and verify ROM files like CyanogenMod or tools or whatever from the Internet, and then install them.
(Linux version)
(Mac version)
As it does all this, the script can provides information and/or feedback to the user via a UI that hopefully looks like a normal installer. What the user sees is written by the script author in simple HTML. As the .derp script runs, the user simply ftaps "Continue" to proceed through the scripted steps.
As mentioned, .derp scripts are written in XML, which is platform-generic and easy for a human to read. The .derp script syntax, explained below, is also very simple. The script author is also free to embed bash shell scripts or python (or both) if advanced stuff is needed.
Worth mentioning too-- sections, steps, text, actions, or entire scripts can be restricted by the type of computer its running on (ie, don't run certain python commands on Mac, but do run them in Linux, or whatever).
And finally-- while my initial thought was to use this for installations of ROMS like CyanogenMod to a device, I'd think Derp can be used for many kind of installations or scripted operations-- even to wrap a UI around a bash or python script to make it easier for users to run without having to open a Terminal and start typing. Derp scripts don't even have to have to be used for anything to do with mobile devices, though it does pre-set up the Google SDK tools for that purpose.
In fact, a Derp script can do NO actions-- simply serve as a click-through set of HTML-based instructional steps for a user to follow by hand. Conversely, it can say nothing to the user but "Stand by, doing everything." and that's it.
FEATURES:
Easy to install. Debian-based Linux just uses sudo dpkg -i derp_0.001-1_all.deb and it's ready to go. Mac users: it’s Derp.app. Done and done.
Derp is GPLv3-licensed and source code is available now. Read license for terms, conditions, and more disclaimers.
Automatically downloads/updates all SDK tools (primarily adb and fastboot) directly from Google at every launch. So the user is always up to date. (also requires users to agree to Google's T&C...)
Uses an XML-based, OS-neutral installation script format that is easy to write and understand. Just about anything you want the user to do-- restart in bootloader mode, unlock the device, etc-- the derp script should be able to do. Even run bash or python scripts from within the script.
XML Tags:
<derp> - the main tag for a derp script.
<section> - a major category for individual steps.
<step> - Put as many of these in a section as you want.
<info> - The stuff the user sees as the script runs. You can add HTML tags to make it look good.
<file> - tell derp a file’s URL, MD5/SHA hash, and local filename. Derp will grab it and verify it for you automatically. These files can be roms, scripts, recovery images, etc. whatever your script needs to do its job.
<action> - valid “action” types include “adb”, “fastboot”, “python”, and “bash”. Future versions of Derp can add more. <action> allows your script to do stuff. Never worry about whether the user installed and set up the latest versions of adb or fastboot properly. They should "just work".
Using the above tags, you can not only have your scripts automatically do full installations, rooting, bootloader unlocks, etc, but simultaneously tell the user what’s happening behind the scenes if you choose. The user feedback is written in standard HTML-formatted text. The user just hits “Continue” whenever you want to move from one step to the next.
Included are example scripts to install CyanogenMod 10.1.2 on stock Nexus 7, Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, and HTC One. The latter script, written by Cowmix, demonstrates how to embed python to interact with the user, and they all include bootloader unlocking.
The only things I can think of that can’t be done automatically are steps that requires hands-on (ie, holding down buttons during power-on) or where, say, debugging mode needs to be manually turned on, or the slider needs to be physically unlocked. In the few cases where user involvement can’t be avoided, the <info> tag can be used to walk them in “real time” through that step.
A built-in tutorial on how to write your own .derp scripts explain how the tags work. (The tutorial itself is a .derp script.)
A console window helps you see what derp is doing in real-time...
Also included: a quick-access adb and fastboot text-entry in the console. This lets you start up Derp and type quick adb or fastboot commands without needing a terminal (or to deal with PATH issues)
“Debug Mode” lets you go through the script without invoking the <action> tags. Makes writing scripts easy.
Derp should automatically detect when a device is connected via adb or fastboot and let you know.
You may filter any Derp tag (including <action> tags) by operating system. This means that using a single script, the user can see different text or the script may behave differently depending on the platform. In fact, you can restrict the entire script to a particular operating system(s).
The script doesn’t actually have to “do” anything. It can be used simply to create walkthroughs or tutorials in a much nicer format than a step-by-step text file. Just link to a .derp file and let it walk the user through whatever. Easy to convert a text walkthrough to an interactive click-through just by adding <section> and <step> tags.
WHY MUST DERP RUN AS ROOT?
Remember, Derp is an installer. It needs to do important stuff, and as such it runs as root. I had considered trying to sandbox the parts that "needed" root and only enable it there and ask for permission for a single operation via an "enter your password" type of dialog box. But because the .derp format is so flexible, there were a million potential places where a script author could do varying kinds of trickery-- by breaking out of Derp to execute python code, spoofing directory paths, abusing the embeddable bash scripts, etc. It just didn't seem to make sense to try to anticipate and counteract all that. Playing cat-and-mouse endlessly is pointless. Again, Derp is an installer. Installers get administration permissions. Just like any installation script you'd run with "sudo" would get. Just like the package installer on OS X. Also, it is much easier to run adb and fastboot with root permission-- you can easily kill all running versions of adb for example, and fastboot seems to prefer it. Plus, it avoids the need for playing with udev configuration stuff in Linux.
This means that, like pretty much every other type of installer, .derp scripts will have full access not only to your mobile device, but to the computer Derp is running on. This seems to make the most sense to me, but I invite others to chime in on improving the design if you disagree.
All caveats and considerations apply. Do not run untrusted scripts, and do not run Derp on a "sensitive" computer (however you wish to define that).
WHAT IS MEANT BY "CROSS-PLATFORM"? (IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE'S THE WINDOWS VERSION?!)
I don't have/use Windows. Right now, Mac & Linux builds are currently available. Derp still needs to be ported to Windows, but since it’s wxpython, and I tried to make as little dependent on the underlying operating system, 95% of the work is hopefully done. Anyone with Windows who’d like to help, let me know.
I think it should be some minor changes to the setup.py file and a few definitions. Also, not sure if Windows supports the “bash” shell...
ANYTHING ELSE?
Ummm... That’s it. Remember, this is a work in progress and a proof of concept... Again, I dunno if anyone will see the value here, and maybe it will need a complete rethink. There are likely to be bugs, maybe even really bad ones. But after a few months of playing around, I kinda feel it’s ready for other developers to at least see and even try in a secure environment (as suggested, maybe a VM or something).
SHOW ME THE CODE!
The code is on github-- please submit commits-- fixes, new features, whatever-- as well as bug reports there. And again, figure there will be tons of bugs to be squashed.
Enjoy.
fattire (@fat__tire)
THANKS TO...
Big thanks for helping me test w/different devices: cowmix, hashcode, kornyone, ciwrl, utkanos, verygreen, and jeagoss
DOWNLOADS:
Debian-based Linux (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint)
derp_0.001-1_all.deb
MD5: 6e8eabe94cdfdba649ea41198211bb64
SHA512: 307aed0ad79de17793bb445d2b588388bf66b42716de36a055227f555bfc12ab3e61d5f0e3de804eb4c0c560f140a6318ea6dd1608cc78ee84b50336895cdfc2
Mac OS X (Tested on: Snow Leopard, Lion, Mountain Lion)
Derp-v0.001-mac.zip
MD5: b738e0a270f53d274baec0ce121577fb
SHA512: 3cf7d438c4dfd0c5c5d7c2f29fe19a76dcbb728acfe73a24e28cdb3f21624510c94f1c4224ad31118851f17205e4d7152619c15281c98189cb33ccac82c1505a
Source code on GITHUB is here.
SAMPLE DERP SCRIPTS
Nexus 7 stock to CM 10.1.2 installer - included (written by me)
Nexus 4 stock to CM 10.1.2 installer - included (written by me)
HTC One stock to CM 10.1 nightly installer - included (written by cowmix)
Galaxy Nexus stock to CM 10.1.2 installer - included (written by cowmix)
EXTERNAL SCRIPTS BY OTHERS
None yet...?
DONATIONS?
Not to me, please. If you feel the need to give someone money, consider donating to the EFF or the Software Freedom Law Center. It's really a donation to your digital rights. (I'm not affiliated with them except as a huge fan and occasional donor.)
REMEMBER, DERP IS EXPERIMENTAL AND YOU RUN IT AT THE RISK OF YOUR COMPUTER, YOUR DEVICE, AND YOUR VERY EXISTENCE AS A HUMAN BEING. I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT DOES OR DOESN'T HAPPEN. DON'T RUN DERP SCRIPTS YOU DON'T TRUST COMPLETELY. YOU ARE ADVISED, JUST IN CASE, TO ONLY RUN SCRIPTS IN A SANDBOXED VIRTUAL COMPUTER. And let me know what y'all think.

Script Syntax (Tutorial)
SCRIPT SYNTAX​
So you want to write a Derp installation script? It's easier than you might think. Derp isn't too complicated-- it doesn't have a lot of "logic". It just follows a script and does what you tell it.
To start a script file, just get out any text editor (or XML editor) and name it something with the .derp file extension, such as:
sample.derp
Once you write up a sample script, you can load the file with Derp to see if it works.
The <derp> tag
Every script starts with the <derp> tag and ends with the </derp> tag. Within the "<derp>" tag, at least for this pre-alpha version, you need to put at least one required attribute, app_version:
<derp app_version="0.001">
</derp>
This is to identify the version of Derp that your script is for. Future versions may not support your script. You can put other attributes that might be used in the future:
<derp device_codename="mako" os="Linux Darwin" title="CM10.1-M1 for Mako" device_name="Nexus 4" device_vendor="lge" app_version="0.001" script_version=".5" author = "fattire" author_email="[email protected]" author_twitter="@fat__tire" license="GPLv2">
These additional tags may be required in future versions of Derp, so if you are able to supply 'em, it's recommended. They'll simply be ignored if they're not needed.
The title="CM10.1-M1 for Mako" is a general title for the script. VERY briefly explain what it does. It's not required, but recommended.
The one other important attribute, os="Linux Darwin", will be explained later. For now, just know that it is optional, but you can use it to restrict the whole script to only run only in certain operating systems.
The <section> tag
Every set of instructions should be divided into logical sections, such as the ones on the left. The section has its own required attribute, the name:
<derp app_version="0.001" os="Linux Darwin" script_version=".5">
<section name="This is the first section"></section>
</derp>
Notice the name attribute is used with a section to identify what the section is for.
There's not much more to say about sections. It's easy. Let's move on.
The <step> tag
Each Section can be made of (at least one but) an unlimited number of individual steps. And the tag for that is called <step>. Here's how it's used:
<derp app_version="0.001" script_version=".5">
<section name="This is the first section">
<step name="This is step one"></step>
<step name="This is step two"></step>
</section>
<section name="This is the second section">
<step name="This is step three"></step>
<step name="This is step four"></step>
</section>
</derp>
Notice that steps, like sections, need to have a designated name attribute so that Derp knows what to display. The step name will appear to the user at the top on the right as the centered step heading.
The <info> tag
The stuff that appears in the main info area should be wrapped in info tags.
Example:
<derp app_version="0.001" script_version=".5">
<section name="This is the first section">
<step name="This is step one">
<info>This is the text you'll see! It explains what's going on to the user. <b>I'm bolding this part because it's really important for the user to see.</b></info>
</step>
</section>
</derp>
Note: The stuff that you put between the <info> and </info> tags is...HTML!
So you can format it however you want. You can even include images from the Internet.
Here is the list of HTML tags that are recognized:
A NAME=[string]
HREF=
TARGET=[target window spec]
ADDRES... can add os="Linux Darwin" to the <derp> tag.

RESERVED
RESERVED

Derp
Derp is a pretty slick interface for scripting not only device installation, but resources needed for modifications on Android devices (namely the Android SDK). A developer can create a custom script to automate the installation, decreasing one off bad installs, and ensuring the process is completed as intended.
People new to Android customization or developers could find this of use. I am excited to see where it goes.

kornyone said:
Derp is a pretty slick interface for scripting not only device installation, but resources needed for modifications on Android devices (namely the Android SDK). A developer can create a custom script to automate the installation, decreasing one off bad installs, and ensuring the process is completed as intended.
People new to Android customization or developers could find this of use. I am excited to see where it goes.
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Thanks.. BTW for those asking about the Windows port (in IRC)...
I simply don't have windows, but it was written to be as platform generic as possible. Anyone with a tiny amount of programming skills (again, I have zero myself) should be able to add Windows compatibility pretty quickly... I think it's a matter of just fixing that setup.py file to work with py2exe. See here for more info.

fattire said:
Thanks.. BTW for those asking about the Windows port (in IRC)...
I simply don't have windows, but it was written to be as platform generic as possible. Anyone with a tiny amount of programming skills (again, I have zero myself) should be able to add Windows compatibility pretty quickly... I think it's a matter of just fixing that setup.py file to work with py2exe. See here for more info.
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Windows dev here, I may be able to help. Also, any interest in a Mono version? Looking for an excuse...

fattire said:
Thanks.. BTW for those asking about the Windows port (in IRC)...
I simply don't have windows, but it was written to be as platform generic as possible. Anyone with a tiny amount of programming skills (again, I have zero myself) should be able to add Windows compatibility pretty quickly... I think it's a matter of just fixing that setup.py file to work with py2exe. See here for more info.
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Grats BTW, great idea...
I've come across several usages of Linux only Python functions so far and I don't see drop-in alternatives for Windows, so I've just commented out that particular section (line 1183). I managed to get the tool download working. Suggestion, maybe sticking with MD5 hashes would be simpler as the script receives updates to match Android SDK download updates. I can understand why you would want to use SHA512, but google offers MD5 on the site next the downloads for simple copy/paste replacement. There's the potential for lots of hard-coded configuration and for those configurations to be platform specific, such as the download folders for tool updates. I'll see if I can finish up the first bit of win compat this afternoon, but my Android device is at work and is a Dell Streak at that, so my test options are a bit limited.
http://docs.python.org/2/library/platform.html
1183 - os.geteuid()
1196 - os.uname()
fork:
https://github.com/strvmarv/derp
screen:

Windows... already?!!
Holy crap! I don't think it's been 12 hours and there's an early windows port.. amazing job!
The unix-only stuff was from a last second addition I did when I realized that dero would try to run on ARM-based linux machines. The easy fix is to simply indent everything past:
if platform.system() == "Linux"
so that the if not os.geteuid() == 0: and testarch = os.uname() stuff is conditional on it running Linux. (Unless there's a windows ARM version, in which case it also won't work).
In both cases it would work except for the fact that Google doesn't provide libraries for ARM. Interestingly though, debian does. So if we REALLY wanted, we could just apt-get install the tools for ARM Linux users. But that would (1) require a debian-based version of Linux, and (2) we wouldn't know that adb/fastboot/etc are the very latest from Google. But it might be a good version .002 feature, with a preference to turn it on or something.
Again, amazing work. Keep it up!
strvmarv said:
http://docs.python.org/2/library/platform.html
1183 - os.geteuid()
1196 - os.uname()
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fattire said:
Holy crap! I don't think it's been 12 hours and there's an early windows port.. amazing job!
The unix-only stuff was from a last second addition I did when I realized that dero would try to run on ARM-based linux machines. The easy fix is to simply indent everything past:
if platform.system() == "Linux"
so that the if not os.geteuid() == 0: and testarch = os.uname() stuff is conditional on it running Linux. (Unless there's a windows ARM version, in which case it also won't work).
In both cases it would work except for the fact that Google doesn't provide libraries for ARM. Interestingly though, debian does. So if we REALLY wanted, we could just apt-get install the tools for ARM Linux users. But that would (1) require a debian-based version of Linux, and (2) we wouldn't know that adb/fastboot/etc are the very latest from Google. But it might be a good version .002 feature, with a preference to turn it on or something.
Again, amazing work. Keep it up!
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Good deal, glad I could help. If you ever want to give a Mono/GTK# port a try just give me a shout. I could do the majority of the leg work code in C# very quickly, lightweight app, which is excellent these days.
I just pushed up my initial changes for the setup.py. I haven't figured it out yet, there are some imports, specifically in derp.py line 23 (platform) that aren't getting consolidated into the build with py2exe. It's most definitely how I've setup the options in the setup.py, hopefully someone is more familiar with py2exe than I and can provide some insight.

strvmarv said:
Good deal, glad I could help. If you ever want to give a Mono/GTK# port a try just give me a shout. I could do the majority of the leg work code in C# very quickly, lightweight app, which is excellent these days.
I just pushed up my initial changes for the setup.py. I haven't figured it out yet, there are some imports, specifically in derp.py line 23 (platform) that aren't getting consolidated into the build with py2exe. It's most definitely how I've setup the options in the setup.py, hopefully someone is more familiar with py2exe than I and can provide some insight.
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Okay, let me take a second and fix the bug I described above... then-- damn, I wish I could try the setup.py myself. So you're saying that the platform stuff doesn't get imported into the build for some reason?
Standby for the fix.. just gotta test it and stuff.
Update: Pushed. Also added /build, /dist, and one other mac build-related directory to .gitignore to make things a little easier to see...

strvmarv said:
I haven't figured it out yet, there are some imports, specifically in derp.py line 23 (platform) that aren't getting consolidated into the build with py2exe. It's most definitely how I've setup the options in the setup.py, hopefully someone is more familiar with py2exe than I and can provide some insight.
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Question, would doing something like this on line 52 do anything:
options = {'py2exe': {'bundle_files': 1, 'optimize': 2, 'compressed': 1,}},
I think you can also do something like:
includeList=["a list", "of modules", "to include"]
first, and then replace the line above with something like...
options = {'py2exe': {'bundle_files': 1, 'compressed': 1, 'optimize': 2, 'includes': includeList}},
see more info here and let me know if the above gets those modules in there! I see some option called "unbuffered".. dunno if that needs to be set to true.
bundle_files to 1 means that it hopefully will end up being a self-contained .exe
Let me know! Thanks!

Suggestion, maybe sticking with MD5 hashes would be simpler as the script receives updates to match Android SDK download updates. I can understand why you would want to use SHA512, but google offers MD5 on the site next the downloads for simple copy/paste replacement.
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Forgot to answer this. You're totally right that MD5 is the one Google provides, and at first I used MD5 for everything-- then sluo reprimanded me, told me how MD5 can't be taken seriously any more, that it's really really easy for anyone to create a MD5 spoofed file these days... So I figured, since this runs as root, it's better to be very extra super-cautious and make absolutely sure the right file is downloaded
Of course, in a user-provided script, you can use md5s or whatever the author wants, but for the Android tools themselves I figured it was better practice to use SHA512 to be more forward/future looking and make sluo (a *real* programmer) happy

More work done by hashcode on a windows port
Okay strvmarv and other windows folk--
Hashcode helped me out by testing on his machine that has Windows.. we did a little debugging, and the result are these two commits:
Pull Request #1
He was able to run derp successfully and do adb/fastboot commands from the Console interface.
But because he's using win64, he couldn't build (apparently only win32 supports building .exe files) all the way.
So, if you have a win32 system-- after applying these, does python setup.py py2exe build an .exe?
Questions:
* on win32 does it build into an .exe?
* If so, does the .exe run properly as the administrator-- right-click and select "Run as Administrator" I am told
* if so, does it install the android tools and ask you to agree to the License?
* if so, does it download/detect your devices?
* if so, can you run scripts (does it work?)
Note: You may also need to manually install Java, since the android sdk updater uses java.
I'm wondering too if the installer installs any drivers, and/or if any were needed.
Thanks!

fattire said:
Okay, let me take a second and fix the bug I described above... then-- damn, I wish I could try the setup.py myself. So you're saying that the platform stuff doesn't get imported into the build for some reason?
Standby for the fix.. just gotta test it and stuff.
Update: Pushed. Also added /build, /dist, and one other mac build-related directory to .gitignore to make things a little easier to see...
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Awesome, will take a look tonight. It's very likely I'm just not setting the options in the setup.py correctly.
You're running snow leopard, correct? You could grab a copy of the Windows 8.1 Preview (free until Jan something I believe - http://preview.windows.com) and dual-boot, or even just run a VM...if you wanted. I had to install Python 2.7 x86, wxPython x86, python2exe x86, and then run derp.py from source directly (powershell or cmd) to get where I'm at now.

strvmarv said:
Awesome, will take a look tonight. It's very likely I'm just not setting the options in the setup.py correctly.
You're running snow leopard, correct? You could grab a copy of the Windows 8.1 Preview (free until Jan something I believe - http://preview.windows.com) and dual-boot, or even just run a VM...if you wanted. I had to install Python 2.7 x86, wxPython x86, python2exe x86, and then run derp.py from source directly (powershell or cmd) to get where I'm at now.
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Ideally I'd like to test it on a win32 system because that's the one that py2exe will make a .exe for. But that said, hashcode has it running and adb installs and works and such. It's now a matter of getting it packaged up properly I think. If you can double-check that it works for you, that would be a good start. Then hopefully the .exe can be made. It should also check to make sure java is installed (which is needed by the Google updater) and if not, maybe help the user do it (or even do it for them)...
Also, his version of windows already had drivers on them, so we're not sure whether derp (well, the android tools installer from Google) will take care of that or not.
One last note-- you may have had problems with the looping downloads because the sha512sum seemed to have been off. I did my own sha and it was different.. The new one worked for hashcode.. it's in his commit linked above..
Thanks!

fattire said:
Okay strvmarv and other windows folk--
Hashcode helped me out by testing on his machine that has Windows.. we did a little debugging, and the result are these two commits:
Pull Request #1
He was able to run derp successfully and do adb/fastboot commands from the Console interface.
But because he's using win64, he couldn't build (apparently only win32 supports building .exe files) all the way.
So, if you have a win32 system-- after applying these, does python setup.py py2exe build an .exe?
Questions:
* on win32 does it build into an .exe?
* If so, does the .exe run properly as the administrator-- right-click and select "Run as Administrator" I am told
* if so, does it install the android tools and ask you to agree to the License?
* if so, does it download/detect your devices?
* if so, can you run scripts (does it work?)
Note: You may also need to manually install Java, since the android sdk updater uses java.
I'm wondering too if the installer installs any drivers, and/or if any were needed.
Thanks!
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* on win32 does it build into an .exe?
- I'm not win32, I'm running 8.1 x64, but it builds/executes just fine if you're using the 32 bit versions of Python, wxPython, and py2exe due to WOW64, long story
- It does build into an exe, see screen
Output
View attachment output.txt
Screen of dist folder
* If so, does the .exe run properly as the administrator-- right-click and select "Run as Administrator" I am told
- I'm running it with Run as Administrator, no, it still seems to blow up and stop running when it get's to __init__, it appears it can't find it for some reason when built with py2exe, likely the need for inclusion, not exactly sure yet...hard to capture error since it flashes by very quickly and then the console closes
* if so, does it install the android tools and ask you to agree to the License?
- If I run derp.py directly in Python it works just fine, android tools, etc...I haven't tried a script yet
* if so, does it download/detect your devices?
- I haven't tried a script yet
* if so, can you run scripts (does it work?)
- Ditto
Note: You may also need to manually install Java, since the android sdk updater uses java.
- Java SDK already installed, I dabble in Android
These missing modules indicated in build output worry me, not certain how to install them...
The following modules appear to be missing
['Carbon', 'Carbon.Files', 'ElementC14N', '_scproxy', '_sysconfigdata', 'win32api', 'win32con', 'win32pipe']
I've pulled a fresh copy of your repo, added Hashcodes changes, and tweaked the setup.py according to what I've found so far. Still blowing up as indicated above, but still moving in the right direction. If you want to go ahead and merge Hashcode's pull and ignore mine I'll reapply my changes so things don't get weird.
Pull request 2: https://github.com/fat-tire/derp/pull/2
I'll look over py2exe documentation and see if I can figure out what we need to change.

Ah, now we're getting somewhere, I changed console=["src/derp.py"] to windows=["src/derp.py"] as indicated here http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/ListOfOptions , get an error on execute, which is dumped into a text file, and looks like this...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "derp.py", line 48, in <module>
NameError: name '__file__' is not defined
Any ideas?
scriptFolder = os.path.join(os.path.dirname(os.path.realpath(__file__)), "..", "scripts/")
UPDATE:
This may help...
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...e-path-of-the-current-executed-file-in-python

Nice.. thanks!
strvmarv said:
* on win32 does it build into an .exe?
- I'm not win32, I'm running 8.1 x64, but it builds/executes just fine if you're using the 32 bit versions of Python, wxPython, and py2exe due to WOW64, long story
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Ah, cool.
- It does build into an exe, see screen
Output
View attachment 2167579
Screen of dist folder
View attachment 2167586
* If so, does the .exe run properly as the administrator-- right-click and select "Run as Administrator" I am told
- I'm running it with Run as Administrator, no, it still seems to blow up and stop running when it get's to __init__, it appears it can't find it for some reason when built with py2exe, likely the need for inclusion, not exactly sure yet...hard to capture error since it flashes by very quickly and then the console closes
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The file size looks tiny... it looks like it doesn't build into it all the stuff it needs...
* if so, does it install the android tools and ask you to agree to the License?
- If I run derp.py directly in Python it works just fine, android tools, etc...I haven't tried a script yet
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^ This is awesome and a good sign for this working once we get the build finished.
* if so, does it download/detect your devices?
- I haven't tried a script yet
* if so, can you run scripts (does it work?)
- Ditto
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Now that I think about it-- the "welcome" stuff and auto-download of the tools are all a running .derp script (welcome.derp) so yes, you are running them
These missing modules indicated in build output worry me, not certain how to install them...
The following modules appear to be missing
['Carbon', 'Carbon.Files', 'ElementC14N', '_scproxy', '_sysconfigdata', 'win32api', 'win32con', 'win32pipe']
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Hmm.. Did you try adding them explicitly in the optionList as I suggested above?
And another way to do it is to use the -p and -i paremeters when you do python setup.py py2exe
Also maybe try adding:
import win32com
after "import py2exe" in setup.py I saw some reference to that somewhere...
What else...
looks like elementc14n is something related to the elementree module of python... win32api is here I think... but I think it would be installed when you installed python to begin with.
I've pulled a fresh copy of your repo, added Hashcodes changes, and tweaked the setup.py according to what I've found so far. Still blowing up as indicated above, but still moving in the right direction. If you want to go ahead and merge Hashcode's pull and ignore mine I'll reapply my changes so things don't get weird.
Pull request 2: https://github.com/fat-tire/derp/pull/2
I'll look over py2exe documentation and see if I can figure out what we need to change.
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I'm looking too... See this?
For py2exe to work with packages loaded during runtime, the main thing seems to be that u explicitly import the modules needed by your app somewhere in your app. And then give py2exe in setup.py with moudlefinder.AddPackagePath( , ) the hint, where to search for modules it couldn't find by std. introspection. in the app
I won't do a full-on pull to the repo until everything is working and tested against linux/mac just to make sure we're only fixing stuff and not breaking the other platforms in the process

strvmarv said:
Ah, now we're getting somewhere..
UPDATE:
This may help...
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...e-path-of-the-current-executed-file-in-python
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Ah yes-- does this help as recommended in the link above..?
http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/WhereAmI

fattire said:
Ah yes-- does this help as recommended in the link above..?
http://www.py2exe.org/index.cgi/WhereAmI
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jpath wouldn't pull in for some reason, despite installing via pip and having an import, so I resorted to logic to assign "." as the path (very hacky)...
So, here it is...running from derp.exe compiled with py2exe...when I get a moment I'll put together a quick summary of how to get a local win environment going..
Here's another pull:
https://github.com/fat-tire/derp/pull/3
UPDATE:
Ack, storing sdk tools in Program Files\Common Files is great and everything, but it needs to be store in Program Files (x86)\Common Files since it's x86 compiled. Pretty sure things may go wrong at some point as it is...