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This is my first post, so take it easy on me.
I've just received my HTC Hero through the post today. I took out an ultra cheap contract with t-mobile here in the uk. I previously owned an iPhone 3g, and even though the iPhone looks cooler the Hero is a much better phone.
I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Sense UI and stick on the stock version of Android 'donut 1.6' (is that the latest version) in an effort improve the speed.
You shouldn't need to get rid of SenseUI to speed things up - My Hero is running on Modaco ROM and is plenty fast enough!
Have you updated to the 2.73 release from T-Mobile?
This does speed things up a bit from the stock ROM that comes with the phone!
If you want it faster than that - I suggest you Root and put Modaco's latest Rom on your Hero and the you'll have Apps2SD (which speeds things up also)
I find that mine is fast enough for everyday use! I have approx 60 apps installed too.
Hi,
The Hero doesn't run on Android 1.6 it's on 1.5. I agree with the earlier poster if you update to 2.73, it should be quick enough. However if you really want to go to Android, just go to settings, applications, manage applications. Find HTC Sense and clear the the default. Now when you press the home key, you'll get a choice between Sense and Home (android 1.5). Bear in mind if you choose Home, you won't be able to use HTC widgets.
btw it does remember what icons you have etc so i currently have an android set up that I play with occasionally but tend to use Sense UI on a daily basis.
M
Thanks for your replies. I've been using the Hero for a few days now, and i'm quite impressed. However I would like the latest ROM version as i'm currently running build number 1.76.110.6 software version 1.0
I try to update to the latest ROM (2.73.405.5) through HTCs website but when I try and download the file, I get an error message saying 'not suitable for your phone' I'm definitely selecting the right fw and phone so I have no idea what is going on.
Is there anyway I can manually upgrade without using HTCs software? Could it be down to the fact im on T-mobile in the UK? Has anybody else had this problem?
You need the update from t-mob, which should be somewhere on the t-mob forums
or else at the bottom of this list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
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You need the update from t-mob, which should be somewhere on the t-mob forums
or else at the bottom of this list
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622
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oh, thanks for the link. I've downloaded the update. Is there anything 'special' i need to do other than follow the on screen instructions? This will be my first ever Hero update and i'm scared of bricking my phone. Will this void warranty?
I forgot to ask in the post above.
Will this update for t-mobile still let me keep the Sense UI?
Yes, but it will wipe the phone so get ready for all your contacts to disappear.
I've actually noticed this a coupla days ago, and thought I'd look it up on the forums to see what else is new... but theres no thread so far about this. (correct me if im wrong)
(and please feel free to skip down to the ****starred paragraph)
I'm using the HTC Hero (unbranded) with the official OTA 2.1 android (unrooted, yes I know... UN-rooted)
About a week ago I had a massively slow and buggy phone. I hardly had that many apps installed, because it was so slow I was forced to download task manager to free up memory (didn't work). I got really worried after because opening ANY app like my emails would cause HTC Sense to close in the backround - and I'd have to wait about 15 seconds for it to launch again.
I just figured it was the official android 2.1 + Sense that started to bog down after time, and considered going back to the custom roms. Before I did, I remembered the number one trick in the "help manual", switch off, wait and switch back on. What do you know....it's much faster and no more lag, bugs or memory shortage! What a shame.
Now I've only just switched it off and on again, and throughout the whole time I've not updated my phone or accepted any OTA downloads or anything really... so I can only guess it's happened in the backround without consulting me.
My sister also has the same Hero 2.1 (Orange-branded) which still has the "old" Android Market.
I hate having to give my life story, and as gruelling it is for you to read, I thought I'd set out all the information just incase anyone picks up on something.
********(Now what you've been waiting for...) I've now noticed that I've got a new Android Market. Its largely the same appearance (white and green) with similar layout for the home page. The difference is the appearance of the indivual apps. The top bar will have "About" and "Comments" tabs, instead of having 3 short comments under the apps description on the same front page of the app.
I really would love to take a snapshot of the screen - but my phone is unrooted and personally never-needed/couldnt-work-out-how to root!
Now for the second, and best part. Normally, Android would notify you when there are updates for your apps, and it takes you to the "Downloads" page. This is still the same! But usually you'd have to go into each app, and press update individually. Now at the bottom of the "Downloads" page there is an "Update All" page - which does exactly what it says - update all in just one click.
If you consider the two small changes, its pretty insignificant - and I do apologise for wasting a bit of your time! But I thought I'd start a post about it incase anyone else finds anything new about the market, or if it is available on custom roms or well... anything!
Yes indeed, there is a new market for 2. 1. To bring some things into line with what 2. 2 can do. The apk is available from Modaco I think if anyone else is looking for it
EDIT..... http://android.modaco.com/content/software/319798/updated-2-2-style-market-for-android-2-1/
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Can't post in the right forum yet, maybe I should talk about the weather or something? Or maybe even a mod can move it over there.
Anyways, I cracked the screen on my first Incredible, doing a backup was worthless compared to my Treo as it didn't backup everything. So I rooted it and my new phone and did a nandroid backup. Lo and behold Gingerbread arrives and I can't update since I have clockworkmod still installed.
I'm out of warranty as it is so thought I'd go the ROM route and see whats out there. As such I've installed Nils' Business GingerSense 3.5 - GB 2.3.5 - (11/13/11 v2.2) and have been pretty happy with it except for a few odd quirks.
For one, I can't read the text for some of the apps in my notification screen, Lookout is a dark grey and the weather is completely black. Maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere? If I use a pattern lock screen, there's some extraneous lettering above the pattern box. And yeah, the preview screen doesn't work for wallpapers and such, neither in the HTC hub area.
Sometimes upon first unlocking if I swipe the screen, it does a full 360 through all the home screens. It also looks like this ROM is based on 4.06 and not the newer 4.08, would this fix some issues?
I do like Sense 3.5 so I think I'll be sticking around with this one and stuck here till I get enough posts in.
Hello hello,
Glad you rooted your Incredible, trust me you aren't missing anything in the way of features if you were on Verizon's stock GB update. The XDA community is literally MONTHS ahead of that haha but you can always unroot and wait for Verizon's OTA prompt if you desire but alas...
1) There is not a setting to change the notification bar's color. I have the same "feature"/problem as well. I just deal with it, not ideal I know, I just prefer launching into whichever app once I know the notification is there. Maybe try your hand with using the android kitchen that Nils has linked in post #3 of that thread. Also, I would suggest sending Nils a pm if nobody in the community has a solution for this. Sorry I can't help you any further but just everyone who uses the rom has the same all black notification bar. I like it cuz it sort of acts as a security blanket as nobody can view the notification's content.
2) As for the pattern lock labeling, I am not aware of a solution but I have heard this occurring on other Sense 3.5 roms. I do not have a solution simply cuz I prefer using the pin code which is more secure. Again, hopefully someone has a fix for this if there is one.
3) Wallpapers: you must hit "Menu" then select "Grid." That is addressed in post #2 of the thread.
4) The unlock spin is actually a function introduced with HTC Sense 3.5 and it effectively serves no person, rhyme, or reason. This should be disabled by going to Settings/Incredible Tweaks/Display Options and uncheck "Enable Unlock Animation." However, you cannot disable the spinning animation if you move through your homescreens too fast (i.e. flick your finger left/right quickly) as that's built into HTC Sense 3.5.
5) The 4.06.501 vs. 4.08.501 differences are moreso software (non-UI) fixes. The rom is based off of a different phone so your issues derive from the base that NilsP utilizes and the way he customized the rom. Don't get too hung up over the differences as it is inconsequential. The version of Android is more vital as Google incorporates fixes that you may/may not notice.
6) Not sure if you're aware but XDA has a ten post limit before allowing users to comment in the development section. Just post a few more comments and try helping others and you'll be at the minimum in no time.
Thanks for the heads up on the notification bar, I hadn't read anything elsewhere about it so I thought it was something I wasn't aware of for a fix. I actually thought of sending a PM, but wasn't sure if I was locked out of that also being a noob poster. (yep, read about the 10 post pre-qualification, how about this weather were having?)
Odd, I just pulled down my notification bar and my weather text now shows up in white, Lookout is still in a dark grey though.
I'm not worried about the pattern lock, I used to use it when it first came out, not so much anymore, was just playing around with different things. I didn't want to install a bunch of stuff and then have to do it all over again if I installed another ROM (I had 104 apps on it beforehand, did I mention android backups suck?).
Yep, did read about the wallpaper issue, I just put it in there for some odd reason.
Unlock spin? Or left/right swipe? Currently I pull the ring up to unlock the screen, and I did get that zoom in animations. But sometimes, like 1/20 times, swiping to the right (or was it left?) it will spin through all the screens and stop on the middle one. And I didn't think I had swiped it that fast, I just tried it, and I see what your saying if you swipe it fast. Maybe I did swipe it fast after unlocking, but it usually surprises when it does it so I must be thinking I didn't swipe it that fast. It only seems to do it right after unlocking though, other times it just does the one screen at a time.
Ok on the 4.06-4.08 issue then, I just read that the OTA 4.06 was real buggy and 4.08 fixed a lot of issues. I didn't get the OTA notice till about 3 weeks ago and didn't investigate as to why it wasn't taking until last week.
I'm trying the V6 Supercharger next as sense reloads after I exit some applications, not always, but enough times to be annoying.
My contract is up in mid January, most likely will be looking into a new phone then and ICS.
Oh yea, go ahead and send a pm if you ever need assistance. I'm sure that is open to every user regardless of post count. Best part is, NilsP is a very responsive dev so I'm confident he'll help you out if you post in any of his threads or send a pm.
That is odd but hopefully someone can assist with the notification bar color. I agree with you about checking for bugs in a rom, it is an investment since you want "stable" and "working 100%" the moment you install a rom. When you run the V6 script working bulletproof the launcher. Ever since I bulletproofed the launcher I haven't had an HTC Sense reload in weeks and it works great. I have the same idea as well, I'm likely purchasing the Nexus this spring.
Thanks, ill send him one when I get a chance, getting pulled in a couple directions at the moment (shouldn't even be typing this!)
Man, that V6 install takes a lot! Dependent on other things installed which are also dependent on other things installed, have my work cut out for that!
I installed battery minder last night (one of the few I found that says how many hours I have left) and it's the same thing in the notification screen, black and dark grey text. Lighter grey then Lookout though.
I'd even wait on an upgrade a little, but my compass isn't working right, skymap has me moving all over the place. I forget what HTC is coming out with 2012, I'm sure things will keep going crazy.
where can i get beats audio from????
Drifta12 said:
where can i get beats audio from????
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Either flash a Sense 3.5 rom and use the stock HTC music player app OR purchase a new HTC phone.
If you want to try the Gingerbread OTA release, you can flash Stock Plus Gingerbread. The ROM is almost completely stock, with a few fixes and a little bit of the bloat removed. Also, you won't lose root as you would with the update installed OTA.
DInc with CyanogenMod 7.0
I have some bugs for the Express Rom, maybe someone can shoot it to one of the guys, since I cant post in the dev group.
In landscape mode, click (touch) on the "people" widget and the mail widget will open, if you have a widget next to the "messages" widget, touching the messages widget will go to the app next to it.
Also in Landscape mode looking at the People Favorites/4G widget, the 4G widgets need to be re-sized, as the white blocks are covering the people favorite apps (top left corner)
In "all apps", touch menu button popup you will see weather options, touch snowball and you get a FC
lol was going to post photos but cant do that either lol
how many to go till I can?
ok well those things are minor but thought I would post them
First, I would like to post this in the dev thread but like the OP I am in "10 post purgatory". I am enjoying the ROM - it is the 4th or 5th that I have flashed on the EVO and hands down the best.
I was a little scary waiting for the install to finish 30-35 minutes but patience is a virtue in this case.......
I am running the Express ROM 3.6.1 and had a couple of issues:
The HTC bookmarks uninstall/install issue I fixed by installing the apk posted in the dev thread with root explorer into the data/app_s folder and then changing the permissions to match the rest of the widgets in that folder. re-booted and re-installed the widget - worked perfectly.
The lockscreen apps/weather bug is still a problem for me - even after wiping 3 times, using the wipe.zip, and re-flashing. Tried various wipes and re-flashes and nothing worked, yes I followed the instructions posted in the dev thread for Personalize, Rosie, then Short Cut Lockscreen, then back button and power off, power on - waiting for the RC to fix this.
Have also had issues with ending calls that are answered from the lockscreen or originated in voicemail.
Also, haven't seen anyone else complain of this but the voicemail icon doesn't display the counter with un-viewed voicemails. The mail and messenger icons do have the counters however. Has anyone else seen/fixed this one?
I would love to see some options for modding the clock on the lockscreen - even if it just to change the color.
Edit: forgot to mention I installed the calculator widget on one of the home screens and it centers on the screen. After re-booting it moved to the upper right corner of the screen, uninstalled and re-installed and it goes back to the correct position - odd.
All in all, a great ROM - many thanks to the developers for all the work and the support going on over in the development section.
Hey,
The express rom is a great rom but just like many of the roms out there it is a WIP and the devs know that there all glitches and they are working their buts off to get us amazing roms because the evos developers just take care of us so much better then so many other phones and we are really thankful for them. But since they are still working on it we just need to give them time to work all the bugs out and when it is all done we will have one heck of a rom! We just have to be patient but that is the least we can do for out devs
I hope I helped If I did please hit the thanks!
Stevo
As far as touching a widget and having the app next to it open up, that's what the OP for the rom is referring to when he says 'much resizing needs to be done'. I believe it's because of the resolution differences. Editing M10s is apparently very frustrating and time consuming, as this ROM (or variations of it) has been being worked on for roughly a year , since The_Platypus started it. (There was also someone involved at the very beginning, but I forget who)
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As far as touching a widget and having the app next to it open up, that's what the OP for the rom is referring to when he says 'much resizing needs to be done'. I believe it's because of the resolution differences. Editing M10s is apparently very frustrating and time consuming, as this ROM (or variations of it) has been being worked on for roughly a year , since The_Platypus started it. (There was also someone involved at the very beginning, but I forget who)
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sac23 ported the Flyer originally, I believe, and then justinswidebody was the first one who tried the Express (after my incessant begging, lol). The platty jumped on, if I recall correctly.
Bingo. Yeah, I remembered justinswidebody shortly after posting,....but completely forgot about sac23
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only bug ive seen is the linking people together from my other accs ie facebook twitter tango..... btw dont get the themed one they suck because its someone elses style...so get 3.6.0 and run it with the anthrax og evo4g kernel...ftw
after 2 weeks on the ROM....
The install has started to become somewhat unstable - I am getting random FC's and screen lockups that require me to remove the battery and reboot. After it was first installed, it ran very smoothly except for the known bugs..
At some point I will probably go thru the wipe procedure and re-install to see if it happens again.
I did notice one other issue (probably a re-sizing issue) with the calculator widget. The display truncates in the portrait mode. It displays correctly in horizontal mode, but then the keyboard has the problem of when you push the far left or far right keys, it rotates the display to the next home screen......
one more thing.....
I guess I should re-iterate what I said in post 2 that I love this ROM (3.6.1 themed) and appreciate all the work going on in dev forum. I am just posting these notes because I know that work is ongoing on the RC release and I hope someone will stumble over here and see them.
So here is another observation - The Bluetooth link to the hands free system (Argos) in my MBZ has been acting strange for the last week. It always pairs reliably when I get in the car but it sometimes will not transfer the audio to the vehicle's system (even though the phone and the car both say they are connected. Lately, I have had to manually cycle the Bluetooth off and then back on to get it to work. I have run a few other custom ROMs and not experienced this. For sometime pryor to installing this ROM I was running the Kinged Shooter and then the rooted stock 4.53......
The Argos is Bluetooth 1.2 - not sure if that matters though.
Thanks again for all the hard work.
what about the German language
very very nice ROM
humm.. I think you'll have no choice of using Elelinux rom to have multi-language support like I had to do for French due to it's rom based Decked_X who is just available in English..
I have been using this ROM for a little while now and find it to be both fast and stable. A really great job by the developer 1ceb0x, for which I would like to express my thanks.
One small issue I have yet to sort out and that is one of awful keyboard lag. I use Handcent SMS for messaging and am wondering if anyone else is using this app and suffering the same problem? I haven't worked out if it is just this app, or a combination of this app and the installed keyboard yet, but if anyone else has had a similar experience that they have managed to resolve, or can suggest tweaks to try I would be grateful to hear. I really would like to stick with Handcent, if possible.
For anyone who has not tried this ROM, I would recommend they do; it really is a great everyday ROM.
quattro_driver said:
I have been using this ROM for a little while now and find it to be both fast and stable. A really great job by the developer 1ceb0x, for which I would like to express my thanks.
One small issue I have yet to sort out and that is one of awful keyboard lag. I use Handcent SMS for messaging and am wondering if anyone else is using this app and suffering the same problem? I haven't worked out if it is just this app, or a combination of this app and the installed keyboard yet, but if anyone else has had a similar experience that they have managed to resolve, or can suggest tweaks to try I would be grateful to hear. I really would like to stick with Handcent, if possible.
For anyone who has not tried this ROM, I would recommend they do; it really is a great everyday ROM.
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As far as I know, the keyboard lag should be gone in the latest version which is 3.5. However, it was only tested using stock keyboard and stock mms app. If you are having low ram, this could be your problem (or an app is keeping your cpu at 100%) - though the first issue should not occur because the kernel is tweaked to kill apps when mem. is lower than 60 - so basically you will always have 40-50 mb free every time.
Thank you guys for your support and for using my rom, it is really a great pleasure to see how many users have it as a daily driver. Thanks again!
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Thank you guys for your support and for using my rom, it is really a great pleasure to see how many users have it as a daily driver. Thanks again!
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it is a very very great Rom:laugh:
1ceb0x
The ROM is still used in German?
Tuvok36 said:
it is a very very great Rom:laugh:
1ceb0x
The ROM is still used in German?
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It has only keyboard dictionaries including german but no system language, sorry!
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I was just about to install this ROM, but I don't need German
I am writing mainly in response to a post by buba_shrimp in the development forum (I do not have sufficient privileges to post there), but also for my own benefit, as I am seeking assistance for the same issue.
In the early days of having my Hero (stock rom) I found GPS to work flawlessly, up until passing the installation of any google maps release past 5.5.0, when bad things started to happen. I have stayed at this release ever since.
Just prior becoming Shpongled, GPS became a nightmare; tried all sorts of stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I came to the conclusion that the hardware was failing and left it as that. That was until the day that I maintained the gps config file from US to UK/European server settings and lo and behold not only did the phone lock my position lightning fast, but all the other problems vanished too.
On moving to this rom, the first thing I did was implementing my replacement gps.conf and continued to get excellent gps performance – most of the time.
The phone now seems to operate in one of two modes; it either gets a good lock in seconds and performs flawlessly, or the gps connection circle spins for and age followed usually by the phone rebooting itself (I think just as it seems to locate its position, though I’m not quite sure just).
I have posted earlier that I am getting bad keyboard lag too, but now realise that this is a hit and miss affair also, as I only get this some of the time.
Anyone have any idea as to how I can debug the phone when it is experiencing these issues, e.g. any free logging tools or other such monitoring software that may help? Or, suggestions as to things I might try? Was glad to see buba_shrimp was suffering a similar problem – not in a gloating way, in a problem-shared-is-a-problem-halved kinda way.
Regards
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I am writing mainly in response to a post by buba_shrimp in the development forum (I do not have sufficient privileges to post there), but also for my own benefit, as I am seeking assistance for the same issue.
In the early days of having my Hero (stock rom) I found GPS to work flawlessly, up until passing the installation of any google maps release past 5.5.0, when bad things started to happen. I have stayed at this release ever since.
Just prior becoming Shpongled, GPS became a nightmare; tried all sorts of stuff, but nothing seemed to help. I came to the conclusion that the hardware was failing and left it as that. That was until the day that I maintained the gps config file from US to UK/European server settings and lo and behold not only did the phone lock my position lightning fast, but all the other problems vanished too.
On moving to this rom, the first thing I did was implementing my replacement gps.conf and continued to get excellent gps performance – most of the time.
The phone now seems to operate in one of two modes; it either gets a good lock in seconds and performs flawlessly, or the gps connection circle spins for and age followed usually by the phone rebooting itself (I think just as it seems to locate its position, though I’m not quite sure just).
I have posted earlier that I am getting bad keyboard lag too, but now realise that this is a hit and miss affair also, as I only get this some of the time.
Anyone have any idea as to how I can debug the phone when it is experiencing these issues, e.g. any free logging tools or other such monitoring software that may help? Or, suggestions as to things I might try? Was glad to see buba_shrimp was suffering a similar problem – not in a gloating way, in a problem-shared-is-a-problem-halved kinda way.
Regards
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Get ADB, plug your phone into USB, enable USB Debugging on your phone, type adb logcat into your PC's command line and you have debug
kemoba said:
Get ADB, plug your phone into USB, enable USB Debugging on your phone, type adb logcat into your PC's command line and you have debug
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I know how to do this, I just don't have the experience to know what I should be looking for.
Ideally I was really hoping for, I guess, is that someone else has suffered these same issues and has a solution.
My question about usefull tools was along the lines of some sort of app that records resource usage over time, to allow for analysis of conflicts, or similar. Anything like this exist? Or is there a better way? The adb logcat is a little too low-level for me I think, unless someone can help me with pointers as to what I should be looking for.
Thanks folks.
Very nice rom, very fast, but .. (sorry for lang)
every app or game in my Hero lags in fews minutes with error " [Application] is not responsive " .. only thing what i can do is tap " Force close " button .. so each game is not playable (gameboid mainly), or i cant read comics, or whatever else ^^ any solutions?
thanks for help guys
Nice and fast ROM
Thanks
it is a great expense to import the German language in the ROM?
I would like to have it in German.
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user
Tuvok36 said:
it is a great expense to import the German language in the ROM?
I would like to have it in German.
I'm not a developer, I'm just a user
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It would need to be build from source to get german language in it. So yes, it is a great expense since it needs:
a powerful computer
time
space
i'm so sorry for not being able to provide you guys this rom in other languages. i know i have lost some of you because of this issue but i cannot do anything for it. i can build it from source in a way or the other but it will loose the great speed of decked_x base rom.
thank you for using it thought.
Very nice from, I have the stop responding error too but works clicking wait lets me continue without losing anything.
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Do Shpongle ROM need swap partition on SD card??
Just a little question: what kind of partition do Shpongle ver 3.7 need on SD card??
I mean: is it necessary to have a little swap partition (60-120MB) ?
PS: version 3.7 is really strong, but I'm waiting for a next and better release
Dont use swap partitions...
kemoba said:
Dont use swap partitions...
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In the last release of Elelinux it is required a swap partition greater than 60 MB and an additional Ext4 partition (maybe for app2SD..??).
I know that Shpongle ROM is not Elelinux (there are differences, I suppose), but.. is there any reason for not to installing swap partition or it's just your personal experience??
Thanks..
It's just slower on every rom, based on user and dev opinions...
How can cyanogenmod and cronos have multilanguage support but not Shpongle?
Have they written the rom in every single language?