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[Q] How do I load Clockwork Recovery

So I just rooted my Aria with Unrevoked 3 and when it was done I got this cool green Clockwork Recovery menu. I clicked "reboot system" and now I'm wondering how I ever load or access that menu again.
Also, when I click Superuser Permission there is nothing there yet. Is that normal?
Lastly, can I delete HTC Driver Installer and HTC BMP USB Driver or should I leave them. I had to remove HTC Sync to root the phone. I assume I'll want to be able to communicate the phone with my PC in the future, so how do I go about doing that?
Also, I used Astro to create a new folder in the root directory and it said "operation failed". Am I not really fully rooted?
Sorry for the newbie questions.

echodun said:
So I just rooted my Aria with Unrevoked 3 and when it was done I got this cool green Clockwork Recovery menu. I clicked "reboot system" and now I'm wondering how I ever load or access that menu again.
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Clockwork Recovery has replaced the stock recovery, and you access it by holding the vol-down button as you power on the phone.
echodun said:
Also, when I click Superuser Permission there is nothing there yet. Is that normal?
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Yes, it's normal. Applications will appear on the list as they request superuser permissions and you take action.
echodun said:
Lastly, can I delete HTC Driver Installer and HTC BMP USB Driver or should I leave them. I had to remove HTC Sync to root the phone. I assume I'll want to be able to communicate the phone with my PC in the future, so how do I go about doing that?
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You do not need HTC sync to for basic communication with the phone (file transfer & adb) but if you continue using and HTC based rom, you can reinstall it and continue to use it.
echodun said:
Also, I used Astro to create a new folder in the root directory and it said "operation failed". Am I not really fully rooted?
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Hey, that's another question after "lastly".
Yes, you're fully rooted, but even root access does not give you permission to write on a read only partition. Most Android phones are nand locked - meaning when the system is booted, the /system partition is read-only.
Until we get an engineering SPL (or equivelent) for the Aria, we can only access the system partition reliably for write access in Clockwork Recovery. This is how we flash custom ROMs.
Really, these are good noob questions but don't belong in the development area and should be in general. This isn't the only post in the wrong area.

[Q] Deleting Files on internal Memory -R- ????

I have been trying to delete copilot from \system\apps\copilot.apk
It is read only.
I am using the offical 2.2 froyo and have used z4root to root the device and installed android mate as a file manager to try and delete it. Android mate triggers the pop-up telling me it wants root access and i allow it but still cannot delete the dam file.
Its annoying me because the copilot icon is in my applications and extracts and imstalls every time its clicked.
Can someone please tell me how to get rid of this file, preferably without buying applications to do so.
Thankyou

you need to explicitly mount the file system as R/W
no idea if the program
you're using can do that..
you can do it manually in a terminal
su
mount remount,rw /system
or using root file explorer (paid app)

and also IF ROOTED, you can use Titanium Backup and delete the app, and make a backup if you think the app will mess up something.

BrokenPixel said:
and also IF ROOTED, you can use Titanium Backup and delete the app, and make a backup if you think the app will mess up something.
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Thanks mate, that worked well. Now I have 3 programs and a rooted streak all for removing 1 annoying file

chrisseear said:
Thanks mate, that worked well. Now I have 3 programs and a rooted streak all for removing 1 annoying file
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which will be back after a recovery

da_jojo said:
which will be back after a recovery
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Yeah they say you learn something new everyday.
A couple of days ago something I installed something (still not sure what) locked my streak in airplane mode, so I restored streak to factory settings & was surprised that it was still rooted after.

flub said:
Yeah they say you learn something new everyday.
A couple of days ago something I installed something (still not sure what) locked my streak in airplane mode, so I restored streak to factory settings & was surprised that it was still rooted after.
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that is possible if you have the superboot installed.

Tried to Root...

New Member here,
I tried to root without success. Downloaded file, placed in sd card directory, successfully rebooted into recovery and launched file. Was notified it was a success and phone rebooted properly.
However, Titanium is telling my phone is not rooted and I cannot seem to mount my phone anymore to re-try the process. (deleted the file and need to replace it)
Any thoughts would be appreciated. The phone seems to be fine otherwise.

Lordjish said:
New Member here,
I tried to root without success. Downloaded file, placed in sd card directory, successfully rebooted into recovery and launched file. Was notified it was a success and phone rebooted properly.
However, Titanium is telling my phone is not rooted and I cannot seem to mount my phone anymore to re-try the process. (deleted the file and need to replace it)
Any thoughts would be appreciated. The phone seems to be fine otherwise.
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Downloaded what file?

update.zip.
Titanium seems to be working now (despite telling me over and over that debugging isn't enabled for development while it is : /)
Mounting still isn't working...not sure what to do about that. Are we unable to mount while USB debugging is enabled?

To root my phone I downloaded "One Click Root" to my PC. Put the contents in to a folder and then click the .exe file. Make sure your Vibrant is plugged in and then click the one click root button.
You need to make sure you have the latest Samsung driver installed and Microsoft .NET Framework 4 before you try to root.

It's as if my computer cannot see the phone anymore because it's rooted? I connected it to the computer and it thought it needed to install drivers...which of course there are none. I've used the computer numerous times to mount, so this is bizarre.

Lordjish said:
It's as if my computer cannot see the phone anymore because it's rooted? I connected it to the computer and it thought it needed to install drivers...which of course there are none. I've used the computer numerous times to mount, so this is bizarre.
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Make sure debugging mode is not selected and when you plug your phone in to the pc does your phone give you an option on how to connect to your pc?

Yeah thanks ....Through trial and error ...and a usb driver reset program...something made it work again.
Now dare I try and install ROM? : D

Lordjish said:
Yeah thanks ....Through trial and error ...and a usb driver reset program...something made it work again.
Now dare I try and install ROM? : D
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Sure. Make sure you are rooted by downloading OCLF from the market. This will let you know if you are rooted or not. Make sure you have clockworkmod "rom manager" installed. Put the rom on the root of your phone (do not unzip it) and use rom manager to install it. Do a backup of your phone first. Should be good to go.

Thanks Lethal....
This is going smoothly and am now making a back up of my phone

Let us know what ROM you decide to go with. Nero v3 is the new hotness.

Lordjish said:
Thanks Lethal....
This is going smoothly and am now making a back up of my phone
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Hey no problem. I am happy I was able to help you out.

I chose Axura. I've successfully installed but I have no widgets besides messaging, market & maps.
How do I restore Dialer, Contact, etc widgets?
How do I access an applications list besides the manager?
How do I restore my apps that I backed up through titanium...do I reboot? I just don't want to screw it up
I chose ADW if that makes any difference
It's already amazing how much faster and responsive the phone is!

UPDATE: I've switched to Launcher Pro...and things look better. So basically I just need to know to restore contacts, apps, etc

Lordjish said:
UPDATE: I've switched to Launcher Pro...and things look better. So basically I just need to know to restore contacts, apps, etc
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AND............. there you have it ......... With a the new joy of discovery..........
........... A new ROM addict...........

All thanks to the generous people of this forum I went from rooting to ROM installation in a few hours. Thank you!
(For those hesitating to mess with these things it's very easy!)

Lordjish said:
UPDATE: I've switched to Launcher Pro...and things look better. So basically I just need to know to restore contacts, apps, etc
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When you download all your widgets and apps you want, you will want to download Titanium Backup which is great for backing up everything. If you decide to flash to a new rom or an updated rom you can simply restore all of your apps and widgets easily. Contacts as well if you chose not to store them to your sim card.

Lordjish said:
It's as if my computer cannot see the phone anymore because it's rooted? I connected it to the computer and it thought it needed to install drivers...which of course there are none. I've used the computer numerous times to mount, so this is bizarre.
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Im experiencing the same problem. The only difference is that Im not yet Rooted. My computer isn't detecting my phone.

Official Froyo-how to install all the apps to SD instead of using the app2sd?

Official Froyo-how to install all the apps to SD instead of using the app2sd?
wildfire internal memory is limited and not all the apps can move to SD for FROYO.
so is that any way to install all the apps to SD ?

Not as far as I know. It requires a custom recovery to be installed, which requires root. There are a few apps in the market though (like Apps 2 SD) which claim to do this, but, I have no idea how they go about it.

Can someone advise how to install directly to sd please? I'm facing the same thing.

any solution?

Directly install apps to SD card.
http://nmobilephones.com/applicatio...tall-applications-to-the-sd-card-by-default-2
Original question of "moving all apps to SD" is impossible now as apps with widgets have to be in Internal Memory.
Unless a dev is able to fool the phone into thinking SD card is internal memory nothing is possible. Unfortunately what devs do these days "make themes". Dailies and Nightlies.

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Directly install apps to SD card.
http://nmobilephones.com/applicatio...tall-applications-to-the-sd-card-by-default-2
Original question of "moving all apps to SD" is impossible now as apps with widgets have to be in Internal Memory.
Unless a dev is able to fool the phone into thinking SD card is internal memory nothing is possible. Unfortunately what devs do these days "make themes". Dailies and Nightlies.
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Sorry for making the wrong post. Actually, with the above process, it is possible even to install/move the unsupported apps to sdcard on unrootable wildfire with official froyo (hboot 1.01 + S-ON).

This works without root:
1. Enable debugging on your phone (Settings->Applications->Development->USB Debugging)
2. Connect phone i PC
3. Open Command Prompt (on PC Start->Run type cmd and than Enter)
4. In Command Prompt type: adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
5. Enter
Thats it!
If you want it back, just type:
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 instead of step 4.
Works on my NON ROOTED Wildfire wih FroYo!
This will enable you to move all apps (even with gadgets, but than you cant use gadgets) to SD, and also it will install all future apps directly to SD.

Oops, my mistake. The process works great. Even the unsupported apps can be moved/installed to sdcard directly . @ilDuceo thanks a lot for the correction. So, this was there right from the beginning, when wildfire got updated to official froyo. Missed this all these days.
SOME INFO HERE.
Make sure that there are no pc/phone apps which use the usb debugging while doing this process (eg: pdanet). After navigating to the "platform-tools" folder (latest android sdk version), then input the following adb commands (in bold here) of ur choice. Press enter after every command.
--First confirm the connection of adb device with the command adb devices
--This command sets the install location to automatic to be chosen by the app adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0
--This command sets the install location to phone adb shell pm setInstallLocation 1 (but try not to use this, instead use the automatic command)
--This command sets the install location to memory card adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
NOTE: I have found almost every third party app moved except the present version of "Double Twist Player" (version 1.4.2).

So this will move all future installed apps to the SD? What if I install an app with Widgets? Would I need to reverse the process?
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nicky041192 said:
So this will move all future installed apps to the SD? What if I install an app with Widgets? Would I need to reverse the process?
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Once u done that process, almost all the past 3rd party apps will show an option to be moved to sdcard. And the future apps will be directly installed to sdcard (no need of moving).
Regarding apps with widgets, i have checked one app "Power AMP Music Player". It will be installed to the memory card and its widget worked fine for me. Havent checked other apps. Make a try.
And i have also freshly installed "Launcher Pro". It will be installed in phone memory only and it doesn't support moving to sdcard. So, i think we donot need to reverse the process in any case, as it wont support moving to memory card in conflicting cases.
[NOTE: I think some apps with native support of apps2sd will be installed to phone memory, and we will have to move them manually. If it is so, then do a batch movement at once.]

@bharatgaddameedi: yeah, almost all i need from root! except of custom ROM of course... but, this is just fine until root.
have a nice day

yes. Its fine untill root. Now I can have almost unlimited apps on my phone. Never expected this would be possible without root. Day by day, I'm getting a bit more satisfied with my phone. And it will be great if we can access root-only apps soon.
have a nice day.

hi i cant get it working. they say adb is not recognised. can i have the full steps? thanks!

eikcihc said:
hi i cant get it working. they say adb is not recognised. can i have the full steps? thanks!
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That is not an issue with the actual process.
U must know how to use adb (and how to use command prompt also) to go with the process. And also, have u installed the android usb driver.
The easiest way to install android usb driver is just install "HTC SYNC" if u donot want to go with a long process. However the driver will also be a part of other softwares like htc usb driver, pdanet (pc version) ......
hope it helped.

eikcihc said:
hi i cant get it working. they say adb is not recognised. can i have the full steps? thanks!
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here you go...
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-adb-and-how-to-install-it-android/

hello,if make hard resset to wildfire will comeback to original status
thankyou

titillo said:
hello,if make hard resset to wildfire will comeback to original status
thankyou
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dunno, iv never tried.

titillo said:
hello,if make hard resset to wildfire will comeback to original status
thankyou
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Yes it will come back to the original status on making hard reset. We cant expect that to retain even after hard reset. But we dont need to make hard reset just for coming back to the original status. We can use the command adb shell pm setInstallLocation 0 . But before doing that we need to move all the unsupported apps to the phone memory. I think they will not be usable unless we move them.

app to instal on phone to do it automatic
any chance that somebody make an app to do this automatic from phone
than you

titillo said:
any chance that somebody make an app to do this automatic from phone
than you
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Yes that would be nice. I also thought that. That eliminates pc connection everytime we want it.
But I think it is not yet done. There are Android terminal emulator apps. I tried in those apps the commands "pm setInstallLocation 2". But it was unsuccessful. I think adb was necessary for doing that. Hope they will be done.
(and remember the letters in those commands are case sensitive. There are only 2 capital letters in that).
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

[Q] how can tell if my HD2 is rooted?

I got a second hand Hd2 and i was wondering how could i tell if it was rooted or not so i know what i have to do to put android on it.
-thanks

If you flashed any HSPL then you have rooted your phone.

I didn't do anything to it yet, but i was wondering if there was a way to find out if it was rooted already. i wasn't sure if the guy i bought it from did anything to it

Is it running android
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Thank you for sharing

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If you flashed any HSPL then you have rooted your phone.
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No, rooted means to have read/write priveliges in the root filesystem in Android, If your phone's ROM is not rooted, you will not be able to modify, copy, paste or delete files in such folders as /system, /dev, etc. in the phone's internal memory, even with such a great app as Root Explorer. HSPL has nothing to do with this, it is a modified SPL, or bootloader, which is the software which loads your operating system, or whatever it is programmed to load at bootup, such as MAGLDR or clk.
Most if not all the ROMs here in the XDA forums come pre-rooted btw.
If you want to know if your phone is rooted, here's an easy way. Go into the Android market and install Terminal Emulator. Open it and type 'su' without the quote marks. If the little symbol where you're typing turns from a '$' to a '#', then you have root access, your ROM is rooted. If it stays a '$', you're not rooted and should search for an app called Z4Root.
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