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at the end of the road?

It seems that android has come to an end for the HD2. There hasn't been major updates in a long time. Not just NAND but lets say the Light sensor hasn't been fixed in any clean froyo builds or random freezes and crashes. In regards to NAND, there hasn't been much activity going on with porting it. I wonder y? could it be that the project just got too old and boring or is it because windows phone 7? in any case it seems to me that this project is slowly coming to an end and only a few chefs are starting to realize it (shubCRAFT, Hyperdroid) are no longer supported (which is due to personal reasons too) i understand that. Im not angry or venting just confirming it. should I sell my [email protected] to get a My touch 4g or a g2? at this point it seems better than waiting for android to work.
I am not trying to anger anyone I just wanted to hear some thoughts.

Im using MDJ FroYo Sense Clean and its stable, fast and the battery drainage is really ok, so i dont think "android for hd2 comes to an end", but "android for hd2 becomes nearly perfect". Sure WP7 is here, so xda-chefs are working for first ROM for HD2 , but i don't think Android-Development is stopped completely

I don't think it will be at an end for years.... but they have done most of the major stuff they can do. I dont think nand is really working as well as they hoped it would... it sounds like it may be slower than sd card. They're still working on it, though. Bugs will continue to be worked on, too.
What more did you expect out of a port? They've done an amazing job. You can't expect it to be as stable and smooth as a native android phone. I always said if you want to use android full-time, you're better off with a native android phone. But what other phone can run winmo and android this well. And its the best winmo phone out there. And there's a possibility of running meego and wp7. Its gonna be my phone of choice for a long time still.
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Very well said. I will never sell this phone for the mere fact that I can dual boot and the GPS on this thing is amazing. Way better than my Samsung Captivate.
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Android on the hd2 is already better than I ever expected it to be, so I'm happy. I use winmo when I need the phone to be stable and for certain apps... then when I'm playing around or want to use certain android apps I can boot into android in less than a minute. What more could I want. If they were still developing winmo phones, I'd still buy winmo phones... most new winmo phones eventually run android good enough to use any apps you want to use.
People who say the hd2 runs android better than native android phones always compare it to android phones still running stock roms without tweaks. If you tweak and customize a native android phone, it runs way better than a hd2 ever will... that's why if I wanted android full-time I'd get a native phone.
But I love the many options and possibilities the hd2 offers... and I still like winmo and the way I can customize it. Android runs good enough for me on it.... and you can't run winmo on an android phone.
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I fully agree with you. But I'm tired from winmo. I want to feel something new. Something undiscovered for me. Its something like a new car. But I've already bought hd2 and i don't want another phone. I just want android without Linux. I just want a fully based android for my phone.. so, can i get it anywhere?
Sorry for my bad English.
Greetings from Russia
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Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned

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Do you mean NAND (Android without WM-loading)? There isnt a ROM yet, but stay tuned
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One Guy just told me about HTCClays SuperHD2 that he founded forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768768 and it runs with minimal screenfreezes and a great battery life.
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Im using MDJ Froyo Sense and i have NO freezes and battery drainage is about 1%/hour

I think it'll be a big mistake to sell your HD2. It is probably be the best and most versatile Windows Mobile device ever built. One device able to run Windows Mobile, Android and very soon Windows Phone 7.
I'm currently been using Mdeejay Evosense 2.3 with hastarin kernel 7.8 and the latest pop wrapper currently being tested. For me android is 99% perfect and I've not had to boot back to Windows mobile in more than 2 weeks. The thing with these android builds is that you've got to try several till you find one which works for you. I tried 7 different builds before finding my current one.
However, we are all different and so you have to decide for yourself. If you feel you can't handle the various issues that are still being worked the, the maybe you should sell your HD2 and get a native android. I personally won't do that.
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oh come on guys. Gingerbread is right around the corner. That will boost interest again. I started with the G1. Interest in it didn't die until i got the HD2. The main reason i got the HD2 is because the G1 couldn't run 2.2 very well. That has been a few months now and I'm sure they got things running well on it. Seriously and they said that the G1 wouldn't run 2.1!! The difference between G1 and HD2 TONS! I honestly dont think there will be anything that android releases that the HD2 wont be able to run.
Granted they have slowed down big time with the releases of android OS but thats a good thing. They were launching stuff so quickly it didn't give the devs time to make stuff rock solid.
I read today that the nexus 1 dev phones will have 2.3 (gingerbread) pushed to them next week! I'm ready bring it on! I know the devs here will tackle it asap.

I fail to see how it is anywhere near the end of the road. Android as it stands now is more stable for me than WinMo ever was. The only slight detractor is battery life which is still not bad at all, I get 20-22 hours straight out of my battery which is only slightly worse than I get with WinMo (about 26 hours).
The reason there's little in the way of amazing, groundbreaking advances in Android is because there's very little left to do. The latest kernels are fantastic, battery life has improved greatly, reliability is amazing now, there's very little left that doesn't work or breaks. I cannot remember the last time I've had a force close, screen of death or anything else terminal, and I no longer boot into windows at all.
Most of the chefs and devs here have things called "personal lives" that require time, and while there's little left to do they are spending time concentrating on themselves. Give it a few weeks/months until gingerbread comes along and the scene will pick up again. In the mean time feel free to get hold of the tools yourself and see what you can do?
If your Android doesn't work properly when I personally have installed Android on about 8 Hd2's for myself and my friends and they never have any complaints then you should investigate why, not give up and sell your phone. That's half the challenge!

[Q] What does Android run like on HD2

Hi Guys I am after some answers:-
I was interested in the HTC Desire HD and did not realise that the HD2 could dual boot so run WM6.5 and Android and from what I have read Android runs off the SD card so I have a few questions:-
1) How does Android run pretty much flawless....slow...buggy and only 720p recording doesn't work everything else does?
2) Anyone have a Desire, Desire HD and HD2 for comparison ?
3) What ROM is most like the desire HD I like the interface on that.
4) Can you sync outlook calender with HD2 Android ?
I am no stranger to flashing I have always had windows phones and flashed custom cooked roms and spl's so from what I have read up I will be ok to set this up myself.
thanks in advance.

It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.

Thanks for the response so you would say that if I want a stable/smooth Android then go for the Desire HD or Galaxy S ?
I am on contract with T-Mobile at the moment and the Desire HD is out of stock and they can't tell me when it will come back into stock they have stock of the Galaxy which I here is due a Froyo 2.2 upgrade soon so the HD2 would have been the best of both worlds for me having WM and Android.

If you want pretty stable android, get native Android phones. If you want to have fun and have the choose to dual boot into Android,wm7, and megoo, get the Hd2. As far I'm aware, Android runs pretty damn nice on this babe. No major issues what so ever..
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If you mainly want android and want it stable, go with the android phone. I'd wait for the desire HD if I were you. A 4.3 inch screen is great to have. But if you think you actually want winmo and will actually use it, then you might want to look at the hd2. Android runs decently on the hd2 ... its good for a port, but it will probably never be as stable as a native android phone. It takes a lot of work, research, and trial & error to tweak the hd2 to get android running well, but most people can get it running pretty well with some work.
If I were you, I would wait for the desire HD... it has the most ram, a big screen like the hd2, but with newer hardware and better multitouch than the hd2.
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rogmar said:
It's not very stable yet but you can live with it if you don't mind a few battery pulls a day.
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Not very stable? A few battery pulls a day? Complete bull**** if you have a somewhat recent build & kernel. There are some minor issues left, but Android on HD2 is certainly usable on a daily basis. If however you have the cash (and are willing to pay) then of course the HD will provide a (slightly) better Android experience, since it's native.

Thanks Atoore, well I really want it for the app store, games etc so I take it that works fine ? and to have best of both worlds really windows and android.
Can you get Wm7 on the HD2 already ? thats anther bonus !
I just got text saying my Desire HD will be with me in a few days but my plan was to sell it BNIB on ebay then pick up a HD for probably half the price for a very similar phone !
Anyone got any views on this ? who has gone Desire to Hd2 or HD2 to Desire ?
Thanks again guys.

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Not very stable? A few battery pulls a day? Complete bull**** if you have a somewhat recent build & kernel. There are some minor issues left, but Android on HD2 is certainly usable on a daily basis. If however you have the cash (and are willing to pay) then of course the HD will provide a (slightly) better Android experience, since it's native.
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Thanks Stephen what build are you running or would recomend ?
I saw a guide someone wrote back in july for best wm6.5.3 and android but no doubt there has been great progress since then ?

I am running Mdeejay_FroYo_Sense_v._2.3_Clean for a while now (5 days) and have no issues whatsoever. (battery life remains bad though)

I have been using Android on the HD2 for about 3 weeks now. I had some issue in the first couple of days until I found a good ROM that just works. but after that, I can't really say I have anything to complain about!
The device used to hang a little in the first few days, but the cause was mainly some of the apps I used.
I did not really use WM since I got Android running on my HD2. it's certainly much nicer experience!
I have been using this ROM for quiet some time now with minimal issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780525
If you have custom ROM on your HD2, then all you need is make sure that this ROM supports Android (most of them do), then download the files to your device and run Android... that's it.
As for outlook calendar, AFAIK, you can sync it with Google calendar, then this will be synced to your device (you need Google account to set up your HD2)
I would say, go for it and give it a try, it's very different from WM

My honest opinion is its more the fun in it, initially I had battery pulls and screens of death but know that I have my radio right and rom right, and honestly the only reason I've shut it down was due to dead battery or replacing the kernel, from what I've heard the battery life in the desire be isn't great, neither is android on the hd2, but its drastically cheaper and its a learning experience.... do it
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I am in the same boat as OP.
From what I have read, ROMs like Froyostone are totally solid.
People are claiming that it runs totally fine, with almost no issues at all.
I'm thinking of buying an HD2 just to run Android as my daily phone.
Would you not recommend this? I know the older roms were buggy, but from what i read it runs as good as a Desire (original).
Are people bullsh*tting? or is it really that good now?

I recently bought a HD2 just to run android.
Ive been using android on it for a few days and I gotta say its pretty good. Its not perfect, you do get some freeze ups, though they only last for a few seconds. Ive had some data drops, since then Ive installed the fix and it seems to be working fine now.
I know Id rather have the HD2 than the desire, the big screen is awesome.

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As already mentioned: That's just completly bull****.
I'm running and upgrading my AndroidHD2 every few weeks since this summer and the first FroyoStone releases and pretty much all builds have become totally perfect, especially the desire builds.
I was running MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.6 until 1.7 was released this week and got freaking 3 days and 21 hours of battery life, that's almost a 400%+ compared to the days I was running WinMo 6.5.
If you're having fun to do stuff with your phone, tweaking it, installing new things and so on go for HD2, since its at 400$ atm I think.
If you just want a working phone and don't want to care about such stuff get the Desire HD oder whatever you like.

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Thanks Stephen what build are you running or would recomend ?
I saw a guide someone wrote back in july for best wm6.5.3 and android but no doubt there has been great progress since then ?
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There is no best combo, people get all kinds of different results even with the same setup. It's probably due to different SD cards, not too sure on that though. It's going to take you a few days to figure out what's good for you, but once you have your WinMo build and Radio good, probably every Android build will run just fine, leaving stuff up to your own taste. Coming from an HTC Magic, I really liked Cyanogenmod so I'm running all kinds of CM-based roms (currently JDMS 1.5, it's the most recent one). If you like Sense, MDJ's builds are probably your best shot.
But again, there's no guide on what is best. If you feel like experimenting a bit, you're gonna have a good time, but if you want a 'no hassle' phone go for the Desire (HD). I bought my HD2 especially for Android btw, found it for about €250 on ebay (unlocked), while a desire would be at least 400 for inferior hardware.

So its totally sweet then.
Wicked.
It's a great deal, especially as the desire has battery life issues, I don't see the advantage ?
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There's a reason HD2 prices on ebay have started increasing recently (at least in the UK) and it's because news is spreading about what can be done on it and what is in the pipeline. I only use Android on my HD2 and have done for two months now, Only reason I know what WinMo Rom I've got on my phone is cos it's listed in my sig lol.
Recent builds have gotten so stable I can't remember the last time I had an app crash on me, the market is flawless, I get very few data drops (and they don't last long either), camera is as good as under WinMo (5MP in other words) and very few other niggles. The main thing some peoples complain about is battery life, but that's only because they don't calibrate the battery properly (have your battery at 100% when you install a build and it will be fine tho).

I wanted a new Android phone but couldn't really afford a Vibrant, etc.
I decided to get the HD2, and I do not regret it. I use one of Darkstone's rom, and I've never had major issues with it.
I had some battery life issues, so I changed toHastarin's 8.2 kernel with Overclocking and Undervolting, and that solved my battery problem. I could get 2 days of light use if I wanted to, but I always use it a lot. With normal use I usually have 30-40% battery at the end of the day. With heavy use, I sometimes have to plug it in after about 12 hours of use, but that's rare.

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i have to agree with the other posters, that is bull. i use mccm build and i never had the need to pull the battery. if hd2 is far cheaper than desire hd and you prefer to save some money, i'd strongly consider hd2.

Im complety newbie in the android stuff....
first i buy HD2 only from WinMo...
but after i found so many fantastic build in XDA, im using android as daily for about a month now...
sure, it takes little bit working n searching.....
but for me, thats the beauty of it....
For now, i already found a couple build that i thought perfect enough, no lag or whatsoever....
but i still keep trying the other builds, just to see the difference...
sorry for my bad english........

does MAGLDR gave us what we expected?

now it is one week since magldr was released, thanks to DFT.
it was like the end of the year gift to us, we were very happy (and we still happy) because it really bring our HD2 to life again, one day before the release of MAGLDR i was thinking of replacing it with Desire because and that because SD/RAM builds was not stable and even if it is stable it will not last more than one month before start giving FCs etc...
i opened this thread (i hope it is in the correct section, and if it is not i am sorry about that MODs will move it) to share our opinions about nand roms, is it stable as we were expect, are you happy with it or not, if no please let us know why.
for me i am very happy with it till now, it is stable, fast and reliable, and we dont need to boot into 2 os every time we are restarting the phone, and i think HD2 Became an android phone.

I think it's incredible what DFT were able to accomplish. After NAND hit, I sent Cotulla a donation, and have been trying to figure out who else to donate to for their hard work.
As far as NAND, I haven't noticed a major difference in the quality of the builds (SD vs NAND). I think it's probably there, but I'm not technically knowledgeable to notice the difference. I hear some people say the battery life is better, but I still end up plugging my phone in every night to recharge it anyway. The one nice thing the SD builds had was that it was very simple to compare builds in case there were problems with one. I could have one build stored away in a folder called 'Android2' while I dinked around with another build to test things out. It's not a huge deal (and I could probably get Titanium Restore... er, whatever it's called, backup?), but it was simpler to just move around folders.
Anyway, WM sucked so bad, I'm very much happy to rid my phone of it. I'm thankful to all of the developers who made my phone MUCH better than it originally came as (this includes WM ROM developers obviously).
Oh... and I think this thread should've gone into the 'HD2 Android General Discussion' section.

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Oh... and I think this thread should've gone into the 'HD2 Android General Discussion' section.
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+1 for that.....
Guess MODS have to do some extra work

moved

Very much agree. For 1, wrong forum. This is development not 'how do you like this new feature'. More, 'how do we make this new feature work'.
Anyway, I love the NAND, and you are right, the SD was alot more convient to test and use new builds. Copy the folder and launch. Cant get easier than that indefinitly.
Although, the SDcard is not made to be read/written that many times. The SDcard itself, AND the SD reader in the phone were not made to be used that much.
The hardware im sure has got ALOT better since the G1 days, but this is exactly how my G1 died. Back in the day we used the SD to swap files, and used the ext3/4 to give the G1 a boost. Needless to say, the phone wouldnt read ANY sd card after like 8 months I think it was. Thats when I had to get a new phone because we had it so you needed the SDcard to flash a new build and w.out it, the phone could never be updated.
So my opinion? The phones come with NAND for a reason. Lets use it . Use MyBackup or Titanium and youll be okay. The flash doesnt take too long, AND its just like a REGULAR ANDROID .
THANKS DEVELOPERS! You saved me $500 and my SDcard slot.

Well, well, well. Happy to leave my comment here 'bout NAND.. This is Dream come true and the best that ever happened to my lovely HD2. With NAND, my HD2 has been on daily use without any single fault or malfunction. It works very well and the battery life is very very very GOOD. I really don't know how to start thankin' DFT and all those who put their efforts, ideas, time, compromise and and and.. THANKSSSSSSSSS. I'm done with testing NAND and now up toooooooo Donate. They deserve it.

I have not noticed any difference with nand, all the same issues still exist, but now its more inconvenient to change builds, mod system files, change kernels, etc.. Battery life is no different compared to SD. Boot time is not shorter compared to dual boot with EBL. From a developing stand point magldr is a milestone, but from a usability/practical point, its underwhelming. I think RAM smokes nand by far and wish more development is put towards RAM. I'm anxiously waiting for DS's nand+ram.
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raysacr said:
I have not noticed any difference with nand, all the same issues still exist, but now its more inconvenient to change builds, mod system files, change kernels, etc.. Battery life is no different compared to SD. Boot time is not shorter compared to dual boot with EBL. From a developing stand point magldr is a milestone, but from a usability/practical point, its underwhelming. I think RAM smokes nand by far and wish more development is put towards RAM. I'm anxiously waiting for DS's nand+ram.
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Just nit picking a little, but there will never be a "nand + ram" as you say. The ram build loads the build into ram memory, thereby making it analogous to the rom memory. In nand, the build uses ram in much the same way your normal computer does. Therefore, even if it was possible to do a nand/ram build (anything is possible for darkstone, really), I don't see the benefit because you would have less ram to work with, and rom read/write speed is actually slower than many sd card read/write speeds.
Back to topic! Only time will tell, but i think the best thing about nand is, as another user pointed out earlier, data stability. So tired of having to reload apps after a week or two because the build craps out on me.
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not a dream come true for me, but i am happy to be able to be able to copy files through the usb cable without having to reboot afterwards.

no,
it wasn't what i expected, i tought it would delete hspl.
but it didn't, it's even better like this.
it's amazingly stable.
i'm statified, expect that my data wasn't working yesterday[ppp]
hopefully that won't come along.
but if i have to restart it every night to fix it i'm fine

Im loving MAGLDR and what it has brung to the table but there iw one disappointment in that as far as I can remember it was said by cotulla or somebody else that we would have option of keeping WinMO on NAND and booting Android from SD via MAGLDR instead of via WM.
I kind of liked the idea of having that additional option also.
But its no big loss really and im just happy to have the ability to boot directly into android

TheATHEiST said:
Im loving MAGLDR and what it has brung to the table but there iw one disappointment in that as far as I can remember it was said by cotulla or somebody else that we would have option of keeping WinMO on NAND and booting Android from SD via MAGLDR instead of via WM.
I kind of liked the idea of having that additional option also.
But its no big loss really and im just happy to have the ability to boot directly into android
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That was my biggest disappointment about it, too. But it lists booting wm65 under future developments, so hopefully soon it will have that capability. I'm happy that he released the nand Android part of it for the community.
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My phone has never run this good. Nand is absolutely amazing.
My phone stays unplugged longer and runs better. What isn't to like?
Currently unplugged 13 hours and still at 50% sd builds never came close to that.
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about the only problem with magldr is the usb charging bug (big problem!)
and difficulty with clockwork recovery
hoping both are fixed soon
wm7 seems already future supported and WM 6.5 can rot in hell
magldr made me buy the hd2

I'm satisfied with NAND. SD versions were a ton of fun to test and switch, which I did like crazy....however I've found a NAND flavor that is deathly fast, stable on which everything works (TMOUS) and battery life is better than average.

can i just ask - what would be the point of MAGLDR having a WM 6.5 boot feature if a 6.5 rom boots just fine without magldr? its not like WM will run from SD card..... ?
it would be a pain for WM chefs (me included) to re-tool and create MAGLDR compatible ROMS when our current methods work just fine. Remember, MAGLDR is just a flash away at any rate.....

Yes !!! I got my expectings pleased with nand and all the things are working on mdeejays HD Revolution,and battery is so good-i might say-better than with winmo on it...
Thanx to DFT for MAGLDR and mdeejay for all the goodies with his roms

g.lewarne said:
can i just ask - what would be the point of MAGLDR having a WM 6.5 boot feature if a 6.5 rom boots just fine without magldr? its not like WM will run from SD card..... ?
it would be a pain for WM chefs (me included) to re-tool and create MAGLDR compatible ROMS when our current methods work just fine. Remember, MAGLDR is just a flash away at any rate.....
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Because with magldr, you can have it boot directly into Android on your SD card without having to go into winmo first.
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In my opnion yes..

VERY satisfied with NAND. No more wake up lag or during call black screen, which was pretty much the trouble I was having with SD and RAM builds.
Thx DFT!

Good Bye, HD2

Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
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I agree with you. the HD2 has been awesome with the support of the XDA community!

Yea I love the hell out of my hd2 but can't wait to get a native android phone aka htc pyramud.

yeah, HD2 is not for the faint of heart...

HTC Pyramid, here I come..

any pyramid news?
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HTC Pyramid, here I come..
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i love the hd2 but I am really want a native android device as well. Do you have any other sites or info on the pyramid? i am not happy with the t-mo offering so I will be switching to the mythical device should it actually appear.

yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman

chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
"When i die i wanna be buried face down......so everyone that doesnt like me can KISS MY ASS" - Red Forman
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Completely agree... also DesireHD is not even close to HD2... especially if you talk about battery life...

chrisgto4 said:
yah but finding a 4.3in. screen with 4 different OS is gonna be hard. even the best native android phone with stock sense isgonna b slow compared to hd2
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And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.

My mytouch 4g has more ram, therefore less lag. But I still bought an hd2. Simply for a 4.3" android device on tmous
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Kailkti said:
And do you know why they are slower compared to the HD2? Cuz the stock rom hasn't been tweaked to their fullest... While for the HD2, we have our custom roms roms tweaked to the fullest for maximum user satisfaction.
Now when a true android device is flashed with a custom rom, it is also, or atleast should be, tweaked to the fullest. And when that device is on its custom rom, it flies well beyond where our HD2's stopped and fell.
Now i'm not saying our HD2's aren't great for android, heck it is. But people, don't get ahead of yourself and start thinking it's as good or even better than a true 1ghz android device, heck the desire z, at it's 800mhz is better.
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+1... completely agree there. A lot of people here didn't seem to understand that when they were always posting how the HD2 is faster than native devices... they were comparing a rooted, tweaked device to an unrooted, stock device, and thought it was a fair comparison. And many acted like other phones didn't have their own forums with custom roms and tweaks, and ports of other android phones.
If I just used Android, I would definitely love to get a native phone... but since I've been dualbooting WP7 and Android, I am going to have a very hard time deciding what new phone to get. Right now, Android is definitely capable of more, but seeing what's in store for WP7, and seeing how quickly the homebrew community is taking apart WP7 and learning to tweak and hack it, I know WP7 will catch up quick. I wouldn't be able to decide between to 2... I actually kinda prefer using WP7 as my day to day OS, but there are still too many limitations to completely stick with wp7. I can't play my psx or snes games on wp7, there's no good navigation, and many other things that are missing still. I also love being able to customize my android homescreens. So at this point I like them both about equally, and use them both about the same amount... so I'm gonna be sticking with my HD2 for a while longer... probably at least until the end of the year and I can see where each OS is at and see what hardware is available then. I'm really hoping that they start porting android to WP7 devices, so hopefully I can get a next generation device at some point that can run both OS's again... but it will probablt be a long time, if ever, that we see a device that gets modded and hacked like the HD2 did. The HD2 was a very unique device... there was never a phone that got modded as much and probably never will be again, unfortunately.

Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.

JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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dont be in any hurry. you really are not missing much. those samsung android phones do have an amazing screen though. just saying that if you are going to upgrade, make sure whatever you are getting is a worthy upgrade. flashing these custom roms and trying to find the "perfect" and "flawless" android build for our hd2's can be annoying at times but its doable..
but i guarantee, like most of us you want the most out of your device and you will end up rooting and flash custom roms on your new android smartphone just like you do now. and like many, you will also run into problems and those custom roms will always not be the most stable... just like some of these android roms for the hd2...
if you are on tmobile i would try to wait it out. see what the pyramid is all about and what other android smartphone will come out for tmo. the build quality alone makes the hd2 on a different level than most smartphones out there.

shree.cse said:
Sorry to create a new thread, this is my last one in HD2 Section.
I am happy with my hd2 from the last 11months and in last 6 months I am habituated to test builds and even tried to make builds on my own but ofcourse failed. Usually, I won't stick with a mobile for more than 3 months.
But this Mobile has different OS and it was a powerful one. Now I am fed up with testing Android builds and their stability, battery etc. So I want to use a native Android phone and so I am going to purchase DesireHD with a stock Android rom and I need to concentrate on my studies other than concentrating on XDA and my mobile.
Thanks for all the Developers in HD2 section, especially Cotulla for Android and WP7 on our HD2, Mdeejay but we're missing him a lot , hope he will be back soon and finally Imilka who is currently replacing the work of Mdeejay.
Bye!
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u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..

fi3ry_icy said:
u could give hyperdroid by pongster a shot.. its really very stable and smooth as well as fast.. definitely a daily use build..
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I am using Imilka's glacier sense 1.3 from the last 25 days exactly from Feb3. I don't find any other build stable and better than this with sense even colourful. Thank you! I will try
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This is truely an amazing phone, intending to keep it till the end of the year, then going for the pyramid probably, or another smartphone with Android.
But ye, again, great phone.

Got my new DesireHD, rooted and now its with Gingerbread sense 2.1
Pretty happy in upgrading from HD2
I can see a lot difference in performance on DesireHD
Very Thankful to all the Android developers.
Sent from my Desire HD

Htc hd2 is the best at least till now

JDM_HD2 said:
Kind of feel the same way I love testing out different Roms for the HD2 and love the screen size but I want to play around with a Native Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S 4G) to see whats its all about plus it would be nice to finally be able to charge a phone while its turned off. Im stilling going to keep my HD2 though I still feel like its one of the top phones out.
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Yeah man i wanna do that also someday, not now No Budget!
However, we can charge our phone when they are OFF with Magldr 1.11!
Last week my battery died so i freaked out hearing/reading that it wont charge etc... I plugged it for about 4 or 5 hrs and then i switched it on and SURPRISE!! It booted and had 60% battery!
Only minor issue is that you will have to unplug-replug the battery!

i think it is about 6-7 monthes before the hd2 forum is empty like all old phones , but it was the best phone i've ever had , and won't upgrade untill a similar htc phone is released , The only thing i'll be sad about is you xda developrs and hd2 community , we will be distributed among different phons and forums

How stable is android on the hd2?

Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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rogerski1 said:
Hello, my wife has a sidekick 4g that she absolutely hates and has gotten an offer to trade for an hd2. My question is, the person says it is running 2.3.5. How stable is android on the hd2? If I tell her to trade and it sucks, I will be in the doghouse! Also, if I can convince her to give windows phone 7 a shot, how does that run? I can do the searching later to find out how to boot between the two, but is it pretty risky/hard? I've rooted and rom'd every android phone I've owned but something about winmo. Makes me nervous. Thanks!
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both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !

backlashsid said:
both OS are stable enough for daily use ! just get the HD2...you wont regret it !
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone

I've had my HD2 for 2 years now, and I knew nothing about rooting etc. It took me a whole day to learn, but now I can easily switch ROMs within half an hour max.
I've tried multiple Android ROMs (SD and NAND) and a WM7 ROM before the mango update, and everything works incredibly smooth and fully-functional. It's actually even better than the original Windows Mobile OS, so I'd highly recommend giving it a fiddle! Trust me, you can't really go wrong if you follow all the right advice (stickies have all the good stuff!)
Once you get going I think you'll really love the variety of builds and find one that you're comfortable with. Enjoy!

Awesome! Thanks guys, sounds like its a go then! I may even be wanting one for myself!
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Well it all depends on which rom/settings/tweaks you use but in general Android is more stable and runs better on the HD2 then most native Android devices!
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I agree. Just make sure the touch screen works they are infamouse for them breaking. The phone is easy to root and nearly every rom on xda runs perfect on this phone
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You dont "root" the HD2.

I'm using CM7_Tweaked-2.0.0-LEO and radio 2.15.50.14. I would not describe it as very stable and I cannot get the radio to do 3g or H. Perhaps my expectationa are too high and I'm sure it is more stable on Android than Windows, but I am not happy with it.

I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM

Android on the hd2 in my opinion runs better on this device than some devices that are launched with it.
Load up NexusHD 2.3.7 and you or your wife won't look back.
Sent from my HD2

spitzer.fr said:
I have the same problem. would like to update my Leo by Android but I do not know what is the best ROM to do that in terms of stability, display errors and energy management? I was using 2.3.5 NAND version which had quit a lot of bugs. Now I'm back on WM
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Well you are not going to find out unless you try them. Also "2.3.5. NAND" means absolutely nothing as that isnt rom specific, that is just a version number of Android OS.
In my experience the most stable version without needing tweaks/extra setup etc is the NexusHD2 roms by tytung (Froyo) and (Gingerbread) and they are as close to stock Android as you will get.
I am addicted to trying new roms though and have started to really like the MIUI based roms but am currently testing the new NexusHD2 ICS base.

HD2 forever ...
I have an EU and a from about 2 month a TMOUS:
- EU with MIUI 2.37a stable ... hard daily use, it rocks!!!
- TMOUS to try other roms with sense (big internal space required, i hate app2sd ) and tried 3 different version of ICS for now without any problem!!!
I have thought about changing them for a real android but ... i love modding ... so no chance for other model for now
A quick reply? Buy a TMOUS
Cheers

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Since you have tried many different roms, have you found a sense 3.5 that can play 720p video? Mwakious 3.5 does not

HD2 was build for Android, delivering it with WM6.5 was a joke!