[PLEASE HELP] ROM Upgrade Query, Does it affect Android?? - myTouch 3G, Magic General

Hello,
I was going to upgrade my Magic ROM to sense UI one...
If I upgrade my rom, will it delete the Current Android 2.2 in my Phone...???
Thanks

MagicMans said:
Hello,
I was going to upgrade my Magic ROM to sense UI one...
If I upgrade my rom, will it delete the Current Android 2.2 in my Phone...???
Thanks
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Way to tell us what you currently have!
If you don't currently have a Sense UI rom... then more than likely, yes because MOST Sense UI roms require a wipe before installing. Consult your developer.
An important question to you would be... what kind of MyTouch do you have?
32A
32B
MyTouch with 3.5mm headphone jack (32A/32B hybrid... but mostly 32B)
If you don't know what any of that is... you're probably not even rooted yet. REQUIREMENT!
There are very few Sense UI roms for 32B devices (AND MyTouch 1.2!) because many of the Sense UI roms require the 32A kernel and radios.
So if you currently use a MyTouch 1.2 (with 3.5 headphone jack) or a 32B spl then you won't have the full Sense UI anyway. You'll be missing video recording and bluetooth plus you'll be required to place many of the system files (and data!) on a seperate partition on your sdcard AND have a third partition for swap (unless you use the fat32 partition to create the swap.swp file).
So... bottom line... yes. It does effect Android.
Suggestions?
Make a backup with nandroid before doing ANYTHING!
Also use a backup app. Titanium, MyBackupPro, etc.
READ, SEARCH, READ, SEARCH and READ/SEARCH some more!

Related

Improvements in Sense UI Rom after official release for magic

Think some of you might know that HTC will be releasing an update for the sense ui for the htc magic, just a quick question is after the release will there be improvements the the overall performance of the current hero roms ?
Heres another quick question is that i rooted my phone and when the update i out, i need to have it to receive the updates so how do i unroot it to get it ?
I have the same questions about updates please. Now that I've rooted my 32A magic, is it possible to download the updated rom and install it from the htc official page? Or is there a way to unroot the phone.
Thanks....
I think it depends on if the release is for the 32A or 32B magic since the 32B has less memory, the 32A hardware is almost the same as the hero, thats why it runs better on those devices....I got my fingers crossed for a release for 32B
Anyone have any idea when this will be out?
i heard october... on a side note.. im trying to find out how to UnRoot my 32a.. i found a ton on 3gmytouch and g1 but cant seem to find out for rogers magic 32a
i would assume any new release of sense would have a performance boost, that being said, the mytouch, with less memory, will probably still have dificulties running sense. While we can all hope that one day sense will be optimized to the point that it is fluid and stable on these devices, we can still try and work with ROM developers in trying to get it running w/o htc's help. Like touchflo 3d and 2d, it shouldn't take long to port it, and make it stable on more devices. Just patience
It was said that HTC Sense will be available only for HTC branded devices, so only 32A, not 32B.
I think if you still have original SPL and recovery on the phone, there is no problem to unroot it. You need just original, not modified rom. Here is a nandroid backup of clean, original system from my HTC Magic 32A from Orange PL, should be the same ROM as in Rogers Magic:
http://rapidshare.com/files/271071174/HTC_Magic_OrangePL_Android_1.5_ROM.7z.html
There is no point of unrooting your phone to receive the update, just wait and when it comes out, someone here will get ahold of it, hack it, enable root and post it up as a rom for everbody and then you can just flash it like any other rom

Advantages of getting a new ROM

Greetings.
I've been reading around the internet about all those ROMs floating around, and all i've found is it that the HERO ROM for the Magic should be great. Yet i can't see what the advantages of upgrading is. Could anybody please enlighten me?
The only advantage I see from upgrading to a hero rom is that you get the sense ui, and the ui runs faster on the magic than the g1.
Just a word of warning that bluetooth does not work on Hero roms, if you have a 32B Magic.
There are a lot of advantages though, root access being the main one which will allow you to do wifi tethering and access areas you would not normally be able to access, which is useful for taking backups and screenshots among other things. Custom roms here will (usually) also give you better performance than stock roms through compcache or using a swap file or swap partition on your sd card. Probably the biggest advantage IMO is getting to try out the latest available stuff for Android months before it gets pushed to you by your mobile carrier. There is no hint of a release date for Android 2.0 for HTC Magic yet but you can download a rom from here and try it out today if you wanted to.
I've read that the HERO ROM brings Flash to the Magic as well, is that correct?
And yet another question, i've got a danish Magic, 32A with HTC written on the backside, what HERO ROM should i use?

Does anyone know how to update or upgrade and HTC magic from rogers

Im sort of new to android and dont really know much about these things but I want to upgrade my phone from crappy 1.5 to like Eclair or Sense UI or anything other than 1.5 (I hate it)
P.S.
I had a dream before and I tried to flash a rom and it bricked so is there like a Rom for the magic for rogers that is safe, like for sure?
Thanks
/\/!k said:
Im sort of new to android and dont really know much about these things but I want to upgrade my phone from crappy 1.5 to like Eclair or Sense UI or anything other than 1.5 (I hate it)
P.S.
I had a dream before and I tried to flash a rom and it bricked so is there like a Rom for the magic for rogers that is safe, like for sure?
Thanks
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Yes, you can root your phone. Try to include detailed information about your phone so people can give you specific information regarding your phone and even give you some links.
For example, use a signature such as:
Sapphire HTC Magic 32A
RADIO-3.22.20.17
ROM-CyanogenMod 4.2.13
RECOVERY-Amon RA v1.5.2H
THEME-n/a
LOCK SCREEN-default
SD CARD-8GB 512mb:EXT3 / 32mb LinuxSwap / Remainder Fat32
Okay thnx, so can u tell me any roms for the htc magic that are safe
All are safe. How exactly did you brick you're Dream...?
I flashed a htc hero rom and then i couldnt turn it on anymore or go to recovery, but I have another question do I need a special SPL to be able to flash roms or is any fine
Sense Ui for Rogers Magic
Hello Everyone,
Well since you want to know when your Magic will get the sense ui or hasn't gotten it yet is that they still are working on it. Check this link out: http://simflecks.com/?tag=rogers
The post is quite recent and even right now they still are going to release it. Things got delayed to the device problem of 911 not working with gps feature on.
Hmm.. this topic somehow doesn't seem to belong in the "Themes & Wallpapers" forum.
Better go to the General forum, or if you want support for a specific upgrade/rom you can go here and post in the desired update/rom thread.
Now, since you posted your question: if you want SenseUI running on 2.1 you'll have to wait a bit because the source or rom image is not available yet. There are some experimental roms available, but I doubt they are for everyday use (some things are still not working). You can however run vanilla 1.6 if you want a higher and stable Android version, but it won't come with SenseUI. Vanilla Eclair is also an option, but currently not as stable as 1.6 (same reason, no 2.1 source/rom image/drivers made available yet), but they are getting there.
u can have a sense ui running on 1.5, if you are only concerned with how it looks. Just flash the cursorsence rom, if u have 32a phone. ensure u dont have a perfect spl. If you did the rogers dream->magic switch, likely you have a 32a phone with 1.33.0010 perfect spl. you must get rid of this first.
here's some links to help you out as i did this process yesterday. took me a helluva long time.
Goldcard Method
Fix perfected spl using this goldcard
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT RADIO AND SPL!!!!!.
Radio and spl upgrade
Cursorsence
I have a Rogers HTC Magic. I haven't upgraded the SPL or the Radio. I'm currently running "[ROM] [32A] Android 1.6 Super Stable & Super Fast... [FEB 10th] Old Radio" for everyday use and it works great.
If your are really new at this, go to theunlockr dot com. Scroll down a little and you'll see a drop box called "Select a Category" select HTC MyTouch 3G/Magic, scroll down again. You'll see 2 video links for "How To: Root the HTC Magic in One Click!" and "How To: Load a Custom ROM on Your HTC Magic".
Good Luck
magicdroid said:
Hmm.. this topic somehow doesn't seem to belong in the "Themes & Wallpapers" forum.
Better go to the General forum, or if you want support for a specific upgrade/rom you can go here and post in the desired update/rom thread.
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Agreed. Moved to General.

Need help rooted roms, widgets broke, can't "touch the android to begin"

I'm not new to this I've flased a lot of G1s
Trying to flash the Magic I have I'm running into serious problems tho
I got it rooted no problem
The problem is only certain roms will even work
For instance if I flash cyanogen newest mod (After first flashing defanged and not rebooting first, yes I don't need my hand held on every step, I THINK I'm going it right it's not working) anyways after I flash it it fires up but I cannot "touch the droid" the touch screen simply does not work
This happens on almost all the roms I try
There are 3 that DO work though, it's not hardware, when I flash back to any of these 3 the touch screen starts working so I don't think it can be hardware problem
RA-IONv1.6.3G.zip
dwang-v1.10.zip
jacheroski2.2b.zip
These 3 Rom install no problem
The problem is Ra-Ion and Dwang the widgets don't work, they won't update at all
And the Jacheroski has problems moving icons and widgets (Yes I know this is prob because it's hero)
The point is I can't get a stable rom where the widgets AND the touch screen work correctly
And I've tried a few of them, Cyanogen and Xrom Eclair both I can't touch the android
Can anyone help me get a correct rom that the widgets work on? Prefferable 1.6 or higher, I don't need the newest best rom, just a stable rom where it's rooted and the widgets work
I did some google searches about not being abel to touch the android but it only showed me the fender edition and the new one with the 3.5mm jack which is not what I have
My fastboot screen says this to save a question
Sapphire pvt 32b ship s-on g
Hboot-1.33.0006 (SAPP300000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:0641
Thanks for advance for any help on this
sonicpuke said:
I'm not new to this I've flased a lot of G1s
Trying to flash the Magic I have I'm running into serious problems tho
I got it rooted no problem
The problem is only certain roms will even work
For instance if I flash cyanogen newest mod (After first flashing defanged and not rebooting first, yes I don't need my hand held on every step, I THINK I'm going it right it's not working) anyways after I flash it it fires up but I cannot "touch the droid" the touch screen simply does not work
This happens on almost all the roms I try
There are 3 that DO work though, it's not hardware, when I flash back to any of these 3 the touch screen starts working so I don't think it can be hardware problem
RA-IONv1.6.3G.zip
dwang-v1.10.zip
jacheroski2.2b.zip
These 3 Rom install no problem
The problem is Ra-Ion and Dwang the widgets don't work, they won't update at all
And the Jacheroski has problems moving icons and widgets (Yes I know this is prob because it's hero)
The point is I can't get a stable rom where the widgets AND the touch screen work correctly
And I've tried a few of them, Cyanogen and Xrom Eclair both I can't touch the android
Can anyone help me get a correct rom that the widgets work on? Prefferable 1.6 or higher, I don't need the newest best rom, just a stable rom where it's rooted and the widgets work
I did some google searches about not being abel to touch the android but it only showed me the fender edition and the new one with the 3.5mm jack which is not what I have
My fastboot screen says this to save a question
Sapphire pvt 32b ship s-on g
Hboot-1.33.0006 (SAPP300000)
CPLD-10
RADIO-2.22.19.26I
May 27 2009, 19:0641
Thanks for advance for any help on this
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Try Super D 1.9.3. Very stable, very fast. I wouldn't use any other ROM, personally. Sounds like you are having conflicts. Are you performing a full wipe before flashing over new roms? Silly suggestion, but it always seems to fix the problems. Also, what recovery are you using?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=613809
sombionix said:
Try Super D 1.9.3. Very stable, very fast. I wouldn't use any other ROM, personally. Sounds like you are having conflicts. Are you performing a full wipe before flashing over new roms? Silly suggestion, but it always seems to fix the problems. Also, what recovery are you using?
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I'll try it
Yes I always wipe all 3 partitions before each flash
I believe it's amanra 1.6.2 it's the newest one I could find
It's real weird, when I flash a one of those 3 roms the touch screen starts working every time, then stops any time I flash others
I have the same exact issue with latest Cyanogen. See: hxxp://forum.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?/topic/1945-problem-black-screen-hang-after-android-load-screen/
Do older ones work? I confirm that RA-IONv1.6.3G.zip works. My widgets (power, calendar, search) work just fine.
Have you tried Super D 1.9.3? Curious.
HGP
Another thread states that changes in screen/digitizer may be an issue. Makes sense since mine aren't the originals. You?
hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=637793
It's because a rom has to be ported in a certain way in order for the touch screen to work. Search for Fender roms. The Fender and mt3g with 3.5mm headset jack are the same thing. It's not the same hardware as the original mt3g, and HTC has not yet released all the goodies that the devs need to work with and make new roms.
ganns1980 said:
It's because a rom has to be ported in a certain way in order for the touch screen to work. Search for Fender roms. The Fender and mt3g with 3.5mm headset jack are the same thing. It's not the same hardware as the original mt3g, and HTC has not yet released all the goodies that the devs need to work with and make new roms.
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But he doesn't have the fender or 1.2 mt3g...
EDIT: nvrmnd
sonicpuke said:
I did some google searches about not being abel to touch the android but it only showed me the fender edition and the new one with the 3.5mm jack which is not what I have
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But he doesn't have the fender or 1.2 mt3g...
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Oops, my mistake. The 3.5 jack version was the only one I'd heard about with the touchscreen not working.

Is flashing a custom rom a good deal ?

Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
mydanny said:
Hey there,
im pretty happy with my phone, but sometime i feel like its some kinda bad to get apps for evey setting that htc did not provide in 2.2 (2.2.1 not available to me yet). Although i think enough "****" is running systemwise that noone needs.
So flashing to a custom rom seems to be an pretty easy thing if you
do it carefully and check all potential failure actions.
Will custom roms make the phone faster ?
To all that flashed yet: Do you regret it or is it like the best thing you can do ?
Do i lose any important functions of my phone ? Are the roms stable and working good actually ?
Thanks !
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Having been running Custom Roms since I had my HTC Magic, I would heartly recommend them to most users, It's all about what you want from your phone though. If you are unhappy with all the bloatware installed and dislike sense it's an ideal way to streamline functionality, your DHD will, in most cases , run smoother than stock and should have at least comparable battery life. Currently I am running CM7 which gives me a stable gingerbread based rom, with a decent custom rom there should be no loss of functionality (even the FM radio works these days).
Custom ROMs are by and large an excellent way to keep your phone up to date whilst taking advantage of new features.
There is a risk of introducing new issues, but the support you get is a million times better than you'd get from the manufacturer, and new updates are usually a couple of times a week rather than a couple of times a year.
The main risk, I find (at least from my Windows Mobile days) is that some ROM developers tend to let things run away from them a bit and end up sandwiching so many new features and launchers and eye candy etc that it ends up slowing the phone down more than the stock ROM did.
So far I've not seen anything like that on recent Android devices, but with older handsets like the Hero there are some custom ROMs that are noticably slower than stock.
As long as you realise that there is a performance limit on your handset that will eventually be breached, then you will have a happy experience with custom ROMs.
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
And waht the hell means "vendor = ace" ?
Which vendor i "got" ? Im irritated or maybe i translate things bad from eng into ger
ps: guess i got it. htc ace was/is the codename for the desire hd device.
mydanny said:
Sounds promising. Really.
Im just irritated with the instructions.
My Desire HD is yet rooted.
But there is nothing about S-OFF or Radio OFF mentioned.
I remember most instructions with S-OFF and then Rom Manager or something.
But in this case - Whats the "Wipe" ? Normally means all stuff gets removed ?
Im missing detailled information, especially how installing the rom (via app ?)
and which version i need of my desire hd and more :/
Is this the safest way to flash it ?
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In my experience, the easiest way to get ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF would be to use jkoljo's excelent tools for S-OFF and Radio S-OFF. Here's a guide to flashing a new radio after you have done Radio S-OFF.
In the Radio S-OFF topic, there's also a small guide for flashing a new rom. If you need a more detailed one, you can find one here.
The next step is to find the rom that suits you the most, for example Android Revolution HD or LeeDroid. Download the ROM you like the most, then follow the aforementioned guide to flash it.
When you go from one rom to another, it's always reccomended to do a full wipe (unless it's just a rom update, then you don't always have to do it). In this case, it means that all your data and settings will be lost, except for the stuff you have on your SD card. You can use your Google-account to back up your apps and contacts and stuff, so do that if you feel you need it.
Hope this helps.
Other handy tools for data backup before migrating to a new rom are MyBackup Pro and of course, Titanium Backup.
Don't forget that contacts, market apps, and wi-fi passwords are synced to your google account by default, so no need for huge app backup files unless you have several apks from other sources..
The guides about S-OFF and Radio flashing posted above are detailed and relatively easy for anyone willing to experiment.
Just make sure that you check the instructions carefully, and double-check whatever you type in adb. The few minutes of making sure you're following instructions to the letter can save you hours of un-needed trouble and aggravation..
Also take note, different custom ROMs often recommend specific radios for maximum compatibility. This can make a significant difference in battery and wireless performance, specially with power hungry devices such as ours.
And above all, try different roms, see what you like best. Running the bleeding edge in Android can be as fun as it can be frustrating, so try to find the best suit for your phone and you, and enjoy it
So alright - I think i got it:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
Some questions that came up:
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
Thanks guys for all the answers already !
Would be so thankful if you can finish this with me.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
1. In most cases, the developer of any given rom will reccomend a spesific radio to use with his/hers rom (like with LeeDroid or ARHD). Usually I'd just go for that radio, but as with so many other things in life, your mileage with a spesific radio may vary. While one user might report good signal strength and battery with one radio, another user might say the complete opposite. Anyway, stick to the radio reccomended by the ROM developer. I think that's the safest to do.
2. I've not even used HTC Sync since I bought my Desire HD, and I don't see the need to use it.
3. You're never 100% safe, but in my experience, once you're past the ENG/Radio S-OFF and your new radio is flashed, it's usually smooth sailing from there. But always remember that **** can happen, and you might be unlucky, so if you're unsure of something, read up on the subject as many times as you need for you to feel comfortable doing it.
4. As for what rom is best, that's really up to you I think. I've stuck to ARHD, and I find it fantastic, but you might like LeeDroid or CM7 better. Just look at screen shots, and try to figure out which one is most suited for you. And as you said, with AWD or LauncherPro, and the right wallpaper, any ROM can look beautiful
5. If your device is bricked, I don't know of any method of getting it back to life. All I can think of is send it to HTC, claim that it's dead, and hope for the best.
I flashed my first ROM yesterday just (leedroid 2.2.2). I havent really had much of a chance to explore the real benefits of it, but im already delighted that i did it. Just by being able to add custom themes, fonts and skins to get the phone looking much brighter and colourful. Also nice playing with overclocking the processor.
Took a bit of work to downgrade the software to get root, then a few problems getting s-off etc, but in the end it was all a good learning experience. Certainly dont regret doing it, just sort of regret that i put it off for so long. Looking forward to much playing about with different ROMS and customising them.
Just make sure you read the threads on here about rooting very carefully. And also read very carefull the instructions that come with each ROM. Leedroid recommended a radio that works best with his ROM, so i flashed that. Dont know if others do the same as i havent got round to trying any others yet.
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
mydanny said:
1. Root Device (Visionary)
2. Radio S-Off (Tool)
3. Radio Off (Tool)
4. Download a Radio.img (How can i find out which works best with the crom i want ?)
5. Use radio tool and reboot
6. Find a suitable custom rom
7. install and voila - there we go
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Once you've done Radio S-OFF (not sure what your step 3 is - seems the same as 2) then I'd recommend installing ROM Manager from the Market and ensuring you have either ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.3 (up to Android 2.2) or 3.0.0.6 (android 2.3) installed. This then allows you do do all your Nandroid backups and System wipes that you will need to before you flash a new ROM.
- Whats the "best" radio out there ? Is this as important as picking a good C-Rom ?
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As said, there is technically no "Best" radio - but the dev of a ROM will recommend a decent compatible ROM. You are welcome to try others but you may notice weaker signal or degraded battery life.
- HTC Sync preinstalls only means that i got it on my PC already, right ?
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It's useful for getting the right drivers on your computer - but probably not much else!
- And can all of those steps (except root) kill my device (=brick) or am i safe at the moment when Radio S-OFF and Eng S-OFF worked properly ?
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Not "Safe" but at least much more likely to be able to recover. You can still permanently damage it - but doing so would be pretty hard work!
- Nowhere is something about the VERSION i need ? So will a Desire HD 2.1, 2.2, 2.2.1 and 2.3 work with all the STEPS ?
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Generally the steps are the same throughout...though you'd be hard-pressed to find a DHD ROM on 2.1!
Which custom rom is the best for me ? How can i compare all roms out ?
I only heard bout Android Rev HD, LeedDroid and CYMOD.
I want speed and i want a nice User Interface (but i guess i can reach that with ADW.Launcher.EX or Launch-Pro no matter how the Rom looks ?)
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Read their respective threads and see what you like and don't like. That's what everyone else does. No ROM is "better" than the other.
PS: If i "brick" my device is there 100% no chance to unbrick it ?
Was possible with psp 2000 e.g. after some months. think so with desire hd too ?
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Depends how badly bricked it is! (see above)
To add the misstying under 2. or 3.
I meant:
2. Radio S-oFF
3. ENG S-Off.
What is ENG S-OFF in some easy words doing other than Radio ?
As i understood - without ENG S-oFF i cant install custom radio images, right ?
Means: New Roms, but maybe not the best compatible radios ?
Also: When installed Clockwork i can backup everything ?
Means a NANDROID backup i guess ?
I thought when i want to get back, i just need this Ruu Rom and
Set all Tools to S-ON ? So this Nandroid backup, whats that ? "Ruu" is the original rom and the "nandroid backup" is the system-backup/firmware/original radio.img?
Im just ab it irritated with all the words like rom, radio, firmware :/
Im so thankful for all the answers yet.
Never expected such useful answers, most forums full of guys that link
to other threads and do not really care. so until now - great work !
mydanny said:
Am i right that only with Radio S-OFF i will be also able to install custom roms,
but NO new radio versions ? Is the problem the compability (with croms) or is there any other reason for new radios than better connection/battery ?
Which users are fine with only Radio S-OFF ?
As i can read, RSPOFF is safer than ENGSOFF.
Also: the question about the VERSION is really making me moving.
Hope someone can explain me, why nowhere is mentioned something about it.
I remember 2.2.1 cant be rooted and 2.3 - so is this the explaination
(cause you cant go over step 1) ? or whats the point ?
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ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
Different rom's suit different people, seen as you are going to loose all your data falshing a custom rom, i would recommend flashing a couple and having a play around (leedroid and Coredroid etc have sense if that rock's your boat, Cyanogenmod is closer to vanilla android) as everyone has a different preference.
The Versioning of ROM's is a bit of a grey area all ROM's are based on an android release 2.1, 2.2.1, or even 2.3 etc but many have features ported to them from other release i.e stuff from 2.3 or even 2.4 may be present in a 2.1 based ROM so look for a rom with the features you desire rather than relying on the base. But some ROM's require different instructions for flashing i.e Gingerbread ROM's require clockwork recovery version 3.x this is due to different file systems used, to be safe make sure to read the first couple of entries in the ROM thread in the development section before flashing as it will list any special requirements or steps that need taking prior to flashing.
ghostofcain said:
ENG S-OFF will allow you to flash rom's, Radio s-OFF will allow you to flash radio's as well (ENG S-off fools h-boot into believing it has radio s-off)
Radio S-OFF will not be reverted by flashing a new h-boot unlike ENG S-OFF.
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Maybe im just reading it wrong, but do you mean that Radio S-OFF has all the features that ENG S-OFF brings PLUS the radio flash option ?
Then why all the instructions say, i need both (ENG and Radio) ?
Generelly, you recommend only ENG S-OFF or will the most good Custom Roms not work that good with the original radio version from htc ?
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
mydanny said:
And Gingerbread Roms need Clockwork 3.X - But Clockwork 3.X needs Desire HD with 2.3, as i got told above.
And i cant upgrad to this by using HTC Updater. I guess, i have to manually upgrade my original Firmware then, right ?
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Gingerbread roms need 3.X, but you don't need Gingerbread to install it. I have CWM 3.0.0.6 but am on a FroYo ROM. All down to my own personal choice!
Also, yes. a Nandroid backup is an exact copy of your ROM (not your radio). So all apps, settings etc will be exactly the same when you restore it. You can't do this without a clockworkmod recovery.
ROM Manager interfaces with CWM and allows you better management of your backups and also gives you an easy way to upgrade your recovery without having to mess around in a terminal emulator or command window.
The relationship between Kernel, Radio (Baseband) and a custom ROM? So in theory, can you mix and match different version and combination, but there seems to be proven combination that works better, is that correct?
Base on what I am reading, they are can contribute to a faster, more stable, and a more battery efficient phone system.
wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
Radio s-off and eng s-off are 2 different things and you need both if you want to be able to flash a rom.
And yes, I love my custom rom more than I will ever love stock. Why? because it looks like the stock one but it's lightning fast and drains less battery. Oh, and I have better reception
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Nice Guide. Has everything i need.
Why i need both ?
In case i dont need/want a new radio version and ONLY a new crom,
i dont need the Radio S-OFF. Cause you say i need both ? Why ?
Maybe gimme a short answer to that.
Will be thankful !
wid0w said:
Complete guide in my sig (check out the dev forums, lots of them out there)
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For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
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For flashing under windows that is, the instructions here, whilst a little more complicated cater for all OS'es
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Link not working.
Whats that ? Another guide ?
Whats the differ ? Oo

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