I am doing a complete replacement of the housing of my Google G1.
I have run into a problem in which there are some brass nuts inserts embedded in the plate and I would need to get them out so I can then replace them in the new plate.
I was thinking if heating the vicinity with a blow dryer around the nuts might expand the plastic making it easier to wiggle the brass inserts out. Another idea (which I do not like very much but am keeping it as a last resort) is to cut some thin lines with a utility knife along the length of the insert plastic housing and see it would loosen the inserts.
Do any of the above ideas hold merit?
Anyone have any idea on how to get them out without damaging the original plate?
As I am a newbie at this forum, I am not allowed to post any pics till I have at least 8 postings. If anyone can help me post them, I can send you the link.
Thanks
Those are not removable.
If the original is not already destroyed, there is no reason to be replacing it, so don't bother.
dhkr123 said:
Those are not removable.
If the original is not already destroyed, there is no reason to be replacing it, so don't bother.
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Thanks for the advice but as I had already disassembled the whole phone, I decided to continue and hoped nothing breaks.
I finally did get the inserts out from the original plate and assembled them in the new plate. What I did was to heat up a soldering iron and use it to heat the brass insert. Before doing this I plugged the insert with its screw to make it easier in pulling the insert out.
Using the iron, heat up the insert while have someone else like your friend hold the screw via pliers. Make sure that the iron only touches the head of the screw and not the plastic . As the insert gets heated up, the plastic also heats up and expands a bit. By wiggling the screw and pulling it with the pliers the insert will come out relatively easily.
Same methodology should be applied when installing the insert in the new plate except no screw is needed. Hold the insert (without the screw) over the hole. Place the tip of the heated soldering iron on the insert and slowly press the insert. Due to heat, the plastic will deform a bit to allow the insert to make way into the hole. DO NOT keep the soldering iron on the insert for the whole duration else you may find that the insert has gone right through the plate rendering it useless. Ensure that the insert is flush with the height of the hole and that it is not protruding in anyway. If it is, the use the iron to push it back till it is flush.
Make sure that you let it cool for 10-15 min before continuing with the installation of the new housing..
Before I forget, a big thanks goes out to go.speedracer for guiding me in the right direction.
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Hi there,
I broke my touch screen and tried to replace it by myself.
To make a long story short, I failed miserably (I broke the screen under).
However, I learned a few things I didn't met in the forum.
A- Disassembly of the case.
1- The Legend is glued. So, you have first to use hoven to melt the glue before being able to do anything useful.
15min/ 60 degree in the oven. Or use an hair dryer (I used the former).
2- Don't forget to remove ALL the screws (even the one behind the IMEI notice).
3- Don't try to open the camera lid before loosening the glue or you'll damage the aluminium body.
4- You have to unplug all the différent cables, so take notes to remember where all of them goes.
5- You must disassemble all the boards. There are 2 boards. One supporting the sim / SD connector, and one supporting the screen/touchscreen.
6- When disassembling the screen board, remove it by pulling the touchscreen at the bottom, and lift it up. don't pass a tool on the sides to remove it or worse, under the touchscreen, you'r tool will touch the screen under and break it (like I did). The screen is very, very fragile
Now, I'm stuck here because I can't remove the connector of the legent which is passed under the shield on the back of the screen.
I'm not able to remove the screen so I would like to know how to remove this shielding or get back the touchscreen connector to be able to replace it.
Once I figure out how to remove this shiled, I may be able to remove the screen too.
But now, I'm clueless (it was 2 in the morning when I gave up).
Maybe, some of you knew the trick to open this phone further.
I'd like to hear about it.
A little up to my post for the ones who did not read it till the end:
I can't remove the connector of the legend which is goind under the shield on the back of the screen.
I would like to know how to remove this shielding or get back the touchscreen connector to be able to replace it.
Once I figure out how to remove this shield, I may be able to remove the screen too.
But now, I'm clueless (it was 2 in the morning when I gave up).
mate it sounds like you have trashed your phone.they are built NOT to be taken apart.They require special tools and process to be repaired. The only thing i would suggest is contacting your insurance company and let them know that your phone was crushed under a car or something and then crush it under the car and you can get it replaced. If you dont have insurance, take some out and make a claim in say a month or two.
Its not an honest thing to do but your phone sounds busted and its the cheapest way of replacing that handset.
Post a pic of it if you can
Unfortunately, I have no rights to post a link or some put some pics.
Something about spam and profile that should be reviewed before being able show any pics.
This device is glued. No specialized tools are able to open it without removing it.
That would mean that the phone cannot be repaired, only replaced. My phone's motherboard was replaced, so at the service stations they should have special tools.
Fixed it!
Bottom right hand corner:
Bend the shielding back just enough to allow you to slip the connector in & then use a little glue to stick it back.
Maybe I was lucky, but my phones working as good as new again
I fixed my Legend
Guys, I know it's been a while since you talked but in case someone else is looking for this info, that's what happened to me:
I cracked the display of my legend and purchased a new one on eBay (roughly 40 pounds) - obviously delivered from Hong Kong but a genuine Samsung (in case you didn't know the Legen's screen as well as most of the AMOLED screens are Samsung's).
Then I used the above information plus some YouTube videos to give myself an idea as to what should I do. The result follows:
I used a hair dryer to heat up the back of the phone (camera and loudspeaker cover). Perhaps I should have been more patient as in the end I decided to use a knife with a very thin blade to lift it and I scratched the plastic and the aluminium body a bit. Anyways - the back clicks in but is glued in addition to that so you have to use both the heat and gently applied force.
Once you remove the back cover (which took me the longest out of everything) you should start removing screws. There's two behind the back cover and six behind the bottom cover (where the battery is). At this stage you don't have to remove all the screws - the bottom two, the one behind the IMEI and the one under the VOID sticker hold the main board but the two screws sitting deeper inside the phone's body hold the front buttons so you may leave them for now.
Now comes the trickiest part so read carefully: the main board is held inside the unibody by the screws (which we already removed), but is also glued right below the camera lens and along the sides. You should probably heat it up as much as you can and for a long time. I decided to do it the hard way. My dislplay was already cracked and it's the most delicate part of the phone so I said "whatever" and used the same knife as before - moved it alongside the screen (pushed it in gently from the front) until there was no resistance (the glue let go). Then I pushed and I heated the thing up and pushed and tried from every angle until finally the board slid out of the unibody. I hope you'll find it easier then I did as it seems that everyone describing it found it quite doable.
Now everything becomes easy-peasy. Remove the remaining screws to put the buttons aside (you'll have both the actul buttons and the tiny board with sensors - the latter sticks to the screen but once you remove the connectors, yu can take it off too). All the connectors are quite easy to remove if you hav a needle or something (just pull them out gently). I didn't worry about noting which is which as ther is practically no way you can mix them up - they're very different.
The rubbery plastic black surrounding of the board clicks in, so once you find the right spots you can lift them gently and take the thing off. You'll be left with the display covered by the shielding from the top and a thin metal board from the bottom. You have to remove two more screws to disconnect the main display plug.
And the final bit (that's where the thread's author had a problem I believe). My display was cracked but the shielding - fine. These two are glued together so I had to find some space for my finger nail and lift the shield. By slowly and gently pulling it apart I detached one from the other - and had to do the same thing with the metal board. Don't forget there's some extra stuff to remove from the back of the display - they're all glued but the glue will remain fresh enough for you to glue them again - this time to the new screen. The same applies to the front shield. I hope you won't let any dust sit on it in the meantime. You should have a screen protector on your new display if you bought it like I did. Remove it now and the display will be happy to stick to the old front shield just as if it was always there. The metal back will also fit in.
Now you can go through the above process backwards - just remember to connect all the connectors.
What I didn't do: I didn't use ANY glue putting the phone back together. As an effect the front shield is sticking out a bit (doesn't sit in the unibody tightly). It doesn't affect the phone itself but it gives you the funny feeling that something isn't 100% right. But I prefer that than screwing something up with a misuse of glue (glue can be disobedient).
The most important piece of information: the phone is working 100% correctly as if it was never disassembled by an amateur. Apart from two scatches on the back, the VOID sticker missing, the front sticking out slightly (less than a mm) and the missing battery slider (which I forgot to put back in and didn't bother to repeat the whole process for the sake of it) - there is nothing wrong with the phone. So if you ever crack you ever crack your Legend's screen - you can try fixing it yourself if you have the courage.
I would like to see some photos too But I'm never gonna take my phone apart - can't see the point
Foto's
Nice thread, i myself am wondering, if a better gsm antenna can be fixed inside the phone. and connect them to the 2 connections.
Do you have any pictures of the inside housing etc?
Hi!
The plastic bit that holds the stylus to the back on my 614c has come off (and there's a small metal piece as well) and I'm not sure how to put them back together... can anyone share a picture of how the stylus holder is fitted to the back flap please?
http://www.mendelonline.be/fotos/614c/
maybe it helps
mendel129 said:
http://www.mendelonline.be/fotos/614c/
maybe it helps
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Thanks, but need a bit more help... there is a small metal piece (it would be ~1 cm long if it was straightened) with a small v-shaped notch in the middle, and the edges are bent at 90 degrees, something like this:
|___ __|
......\/
the digram is not to scale, but the V is not exactly in the center. (ignore the ...... otherwise the V wasn't displaying where it should)
I think this is what locks the stylus in, but I can't seem to find a place where it belongs... can you look through the slot and maybe tell me where you see it?
Thanks!
i think i've found what you mean
looks like it's situated on the top of the slot.
see here: http://www.mendelonline.be/fotos/614c/location
Thanks!
All this time I was trying to fit the strip across the hole (which doesn't make much sense in hindsight) but from the 2nd image I understood that it goes parallel. So far I've slotted it in (the tubelike piece has a slot for it) and it's just being held in place by the cover... i.e. if I remove the back cover it's all going to fall apart
Need to find a way to glue it in carefully.
I have looked high and low for Legend disassembly instructions in order to replace my screen (Digitizer) I finally found instructions on how to disassemble the HTC Legend and replace the screen thanks to allerien's post in the XDA forums 11th March 2011, 07:17 PM. There are no YouTube videos yet that I know of that actually show u how to remove and replace the screen so this is a step by step guide tat will help alot of user's including me.
Thanks Allerien
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I fixed my Legend
I cracked the display of my legend and purchased a new one on eBay (roughly 40 pounds) - obviously delivered from Hong Kong but a genuine Samsung (in case you didn't know the Legen's screen as well as most of the AMOLED screens are Samsung's).
Then I used the above information plus some YouTube videos to give myself an idea as to what should I do. The result follows:
I used a hair dryer to heat up the back of the phone (camera and loudspeaker cover). Perhaps I should have been more patient as in the end I decided to use a knife with a very thin blade to lift it and I scratched the plastic and the aluminium body a bit. Anyways - the back clicks in but is glued in addition to that so you have to use both the heat and gently applied force.
Once you remove the back cover (which took me the longest out of everything) you should start removing screws. There's two behind the back cover and six behind the bottom cover (where the battery is). At this stage you don't have to remove all the screws - the bottom two, the one behind the IMEI and the one under the VOID sticker hold the main board but the two screws sitting deeper inside the phone's body hold the front buttons so you may leave them for now.
Now comes the trickiest part so read carefully: the main board is held inside the unibody by the screws (which we already removed), but is also glued right below the camera lens and along the sides. You should probably heat it up as much as you can and for a long time. I decided to do it the hard way. My dislplay was already cracked and it's the most delicate part of the phone so I said "whatever" and used the same knife as before - moved it alongside the screen (pushed it in gently from the front) until there was no resistance (the glue let go). Then I pushed and I heated the thing up and pushed and tried from every angle until finally the board slid out of the unibody. I hope you'll find it easier then I did as it seems that everyone describing it found it quite doable.
Now everything becomes easy-peasy. Remove the remaining screws to put the buttons aside (you'll have both the actul buttons and the tiny board with sensors - the latter sticks to the screen but once you remove the connectors, yu can take it off too). All the connectors are quite easy to remove if you hav a needle or something (just pull them out gently). I didn't worry about noting which is which as ther is practically no way you can mix them up - they're very different.
The rubbery plastic black surrounding of the board clicks in, so once you find the right spots you can lift them gently and take the thing off. You'll be left with the display covered by the shielding from the top and a thin metal board from the bottom. You have to remove two more screws to disconnect the main display plug.
And the final bit (that's where the thread's author had a problem I believe). My display was cracked but the shielding - fine. These two are glued together so I had to find some space for my finger nail and lift the shield. By slowly and gently pulling it apart I detached one from the other - and had to do the same thing with the metal board. Don't forget there's some extra stuff to remove from the back of the display - they're all glued but the glue will remain fresh enough for you to glue them again - this time to the new screen. The same applies to the front shield. I hope you won't let any dust sit on it in the meantime. You should have a screen protector on your new display if you bought it like I did. Remove it now and the display will be happy to stick to the old front shield just as if it was always there. The metal back will also fit in.
Now you can go through the above process backwards - just remember to connect all the connectors.
What I didn't do: I didn't use ANY glue putting the phone back together. As an effect the front shield is sticking out a bit (doesn't sit in the unibody tightly). It doesn't affect the phone itself but it gives you the funny feeling that something isn't 100% right. But I prefer that than screwing something up with a misuse of glue (glue can be disobedient).
The most important piece of information: the phone is working 100% correctly as if it was never disassembled by an amateur. Apart from two scatches on the back, the VOID sticker missing, the front sticking out slightly (less than a mm) and the missing battery slider (which I forgot to put back in and didn't bother to repeat the whole process for the sake of it) - there is nothing wrong with the phone. So if you ever crack you ever crack your Legend's screen - you can try fixing it yourself if you have the courage.
Isn't it possible to just exchange the glass along with with the digitizer? I myself need to replace the digitizer, because mine went quite unusable after an accident with water..
Either way this was a nice guide which i will make use of!
great info my legend has only a broken digitizer so i will be replacing that soon
Since I couldn't find any complete guide for this, I thought I'd start one. My new digitizer hasn't arrived yet, but I already disconnected my broken digitizer.
Yes, it was hard But I think everyone with enough patience can do it.
I can't post images yet... See them here: rockenundpoppen. com/carsten/htcrepair/
1. Pull out your battery, your sim- and sd-card. You need to remove the bezel covering the flash. You can do this with a very small screwdriver at the red points, but you will probably damage your case... As seen in the video, you could push it up from the inside, if you insert something like a knitting needle through the battery housing. But I didn't try that...
2. Remove the marked screws. What you need is a size 5 torx screwdriver. Pull that little metal plate indicated by the arrow.
3. Remove the label on the right side of the phone and pull out the little cirucuit board next to the volume-keys. Now you can remove the housing by pulling upwards.
4. Remove the screws to remove the plastic piece.
5. Under the plastic piece on the left, remove the mylar and pull the connector underneath.
6. Now you can start with removing the broken digitizer... Use your hair dryer to loosen the tape underneath. Use a small screwdriver to lever it up, starting at the top. You can use a bent metal plate to try to cut through the tape. Be careful not to damage the lcd! I ended up removing the glass piece by piece at the bottom...
You can actually pull the connection cable of the digitizer now... You won't break something there.
To attach the new digitizer you need to remove the lcd as well. Use your hairdryer, and start levering from the bottom. Don't be overcautious, you need to use some force there. But: don't use your screwdriver at the left, where the little flex cable is located... I did and I broke it...
I will complete this guide later, I hope it is usefull to some of you!
Carsten
I was cleaning the dust out from behind my screen and I disconnected the cable that is glued to the top of the touchscreen. I put it back in place (as best as I could) and let the glue set, but my touch still doesn't work.
Is this something I can fix with better alignment (and maybe a little bit of conductive glue) or do I need a new digitizer?
Has anyone else done this?
where was the cable actually plugged into? I am assuming you just have to put that in and shut the rubber clip (I apologize to the community for my lack of technical terms) but can be a bit difficult depending on what tools you have
I had this happen too. I had to buy a whole new digitizer.
Damn. Thanks I guess :/ I'll find a creative use for this one. I wonder what my atrix will look like with all the paint removed <_<
It winds up plugged into the same ribbon as the speaker and front camera I think, but its on the glass end that my promblem lies. The metal fingers on the wire are glued to the ITO fingers on the glass, and I don't know how to get a proper connection back
try here and see if you can get any clues.
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Atrix-4G-Teardown/4964/1
i don't know if it helps, but it might lead to something.
I used that guide when I first took her apart, and tellingly, they don't disconnect the screen from the frame.