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Does Rooting and/or reflashing prevent the next OTA update?

There is allegedly a new OTA update on the way, enabling 720p video, among other things.
Will rooting or rooting+recovery reflash prevent the phone from updating? If it doesn't, would I have to re-root the phone after the update?

pieter3d said:
There is allegedly a new OTA update on the way, enabling 720p video, among other things.
Will rooting or rooting+recovery reflash prevent the phone from updating? If it doesn't, would I have to re-root the phone after the update?
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If I was you, I would simply wait for the OTA to come out and let our AMAZING DEVS get a crack at it and download the rooted version.

I would love to have the 720p and new boot animation and mobile hotspot. But i would rather have root than any of those. Already have wireless tether. But love the new boot animation....hmm. what to do.... can't wait i have a feeling once the DInc gets stocked back up and they can advertise it we will get alot of devs behind it bc the droid x supposedly has a encrypted bootloader. Not looking so good for those who were ready to drop the DInc.
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This update is supposed to include wireless N, 720p video, wireless tethering, and the droid eye boot animation. Since I already have the wireless tether app for my rooted Inc, I'm wondering what would happen if I accepted to receive this OTA update? Anyway, I agree that having root supersedes all of these features, so I will wait for the download. My question is, about how long does it usually take from the time the OTA update is released until the dev's have it ripped and ready for us to download? Thanks!

Droid Eye Boot Animation
Here is a link to directions on applying the boot animation to a rooted phone.
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6943967&postcount=1

It has something to do with a file called otacerts.zip in etc/security
I think the Certinstaller.odex in system/app has something to do with it do...
I'm not sure what needs to be done with them, but when modified it will block OTA

dont rename the otacerts.zip. it will kill your battery life constantly checking itself over and over.

OK I've been told to just wait for the official ota froyo update before I root. And that if I root before that I wont get the update sent to me. But I've also been told that if I wait for the official ota update I wont be able to use unrevoked forever.
please help me!!! I'm so confused. and I've looked everywhere else and I keep getting different answers.

BigNate said:
OK I've been told to just wait for the official ota froyo update before I root. And that if I root before that I wont get the update sent to me. But I've also been told that if I wait for the official ota update I wont be able to use unrevoked forever.
please help me!!! I'm so confused. and I've looked everywhere else and I keep getting different answers.
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It's not that you won't be able to use unrevoked-forever, it's that you won't have a way to flash a custom recovery system to the phone to actually FLASH the forever file.
I recommend the following since it seems you want an official update as opposed to the RUU.
1. Perform the unrEVOked root
2. Flash unrEVOked forever
3. Flash the Stock Recovery back to the phone.
4. Hurry up and wait for the OTA.
5. Upon receiving the OTA, install. You will lose your root privileges. No worries!
6. After installing the OTA, flash ClockworkMod back to your phone
7. Use ClockworkMod to flash a root payload file (contains su and Superuser.apk)
8. Bask in Rooted/Official 2.2 Froyo goodness.
From my research, the OTA MUST have the stock recovery to install. What you will have done here is provided an "Official" platform for the OTA to download, check signatures, and install all while having S-OFF. As long as S-OFF is invoked, you can continue to replace the recovery from ClockworkMod to Stock Recovery (Android 2e) whenever you need to.
S-OFF is what makes this all possible, God Bless the bastards at unrEVOked, would like to take 'em to Peter Luger's one day!

Ok thanks man haha. I've only had this phone for two day and I rooted as soon as I got it. But then unrooted because I was that I wouldn't get froyo.
And yes thank you UNREVOKED FOREVER and, also thank rdmerck for telling me I was completely lost.
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Droid incredible update

Alright here we go. I've been sent the new new update and I want to install it. I have s-off so I can always reroot which I know how to do. Buuuut I need to find the stock recovery for froyo. Or if it doesnt change I just need stock recovery. Any help locating it will be loved. Thank you all very much!
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I got the update this morning and my phone is still rooted. Please clarify what you mean and I will see what I can do .
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Like install stock recovery so I can install the update then go back to being rooted.
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I need the stock recovery image link so I can install it through boot loader.
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not sure. the RUU?

Here you go:
Applying November 2010 OTA to STOCK 2.2/FroYo rooted Incredible

Undereducated noob with rooted stock rom
I rooted my Incredible using Unrevoked so I could use free wifi tether and kept the stock rom. Unfortunately, because I am a noob and didn't know the ramifications or have all the info I needed (it's hard to filter and process all the info from searching the subject on Google), I deleted a couple of apks (before finding info saying to move them) in my attempt to eliminate some bloatware. I got nervous about it and stopped before deleting much, but don't remember which apks I did delete (I did a manual update at 4am while very tired). Now Verizon has pushed the Nov OTA to my phone and I have been pushing "Install Later" since. Think I still have s-off.
Can I allow the phone to do the update? I really don't care about retaining root or not, and can uninstall the wifi tether, superuser, etc, do the update and wait for Unrevoked to catch up so I can reroot (if necessary?) and reinstall wifi tether later. I have also seen that the RUU is out there, but as I understand, it wipes the phone and I'd really like to avoid that. I have seen the instructions posted earlier in the thread about "Installing OTA to rooted Android" but am lost when reading them. Plus the instructions and info I gathered when researching rooting my phone are being held hostage by my Chrome bookmarks (had to quit using Chrome, but that's another story).

[Q] Flash stock recovery

How do I do this i have clockworkmod using the one click 2.5.5 method and I want to flash the 2.2.1 leaked rom I'v searched everywhere and tried the one click unroot and it says device not found and doesn't give me a stock recovery
thx in advance

Cant you flash the update.zip in clockwork also? If not then I would Odin to dk28. That way you get a fresh install. You'll have less problems that way.

I think I'll wait to use the odin method till (if) the OTA 2.2 comes out I dont think I want the leaked one I'v been reading about all the bugs and it dosent seem worth it if the OTA 2.2 comes out soon thanks tho at least now I know how to get back to stock so i can even get the update
Also does using the odin method mess up the orientation iv read alot of places that it does and that it can only be fixed by rooting again but will rooting again kill OTA updates?

New Firmware Update

So asus put out the new firmware update. I figured i have to unroot to install it, but can I root again after updating?

Yes - be warned custom kernel's will make unrooting difficult.

ensign.fodder said:
Yes - be warned custom kernel's will make unrooting difficult.
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i didnt have a custom ROM on it if thats what you meant, but either way for some reason it wasnt updating. i unrooted using the universal root toolkit that i used to root, but it would download the update, install like a third of the way, then stop and sit at a black screen with an exclamation mark and the android until i hard reset back to normal operation. i installed a custom ROM instead now

I didn't have to unroot. See post #111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332583&page=12

xneogenx said:
So asus put out the new firmware update. I figured i have to unroot to install it, but can I root again after updating?
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In my experience with the past few updates, rooting alone doesn't prevent the update from installing; but if you install CWM while/after rooting, that DOES seem to prevent it. After removing CWM a while back, I can update file while rooted. I do have to re-apply the rooting afterward though. I use the bootable CD that someone created an ISO for and posted here a while back. Works great and reliably so far.

xneogenx said:
i didnt have a custom ROM on it if thats what you meant, but either way for some reason it wasnt updating. i unrooted using the universal root toolkit that i used to root, but it would download the update, install like a third of the way, then stop and sit at a black screen with an exclamation mark and the android until i hard reset back to normal operation. i installed a custom ROM instead now
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I've never rooted mine and I've never put on a custom ROM, but I have the same problem. It says there is a new firmware. It downloads fine, but only installs to about 1/4 of the way before it fails with a big yellow exclamation point. I've even restored to factory defaults and it was the same.

Root, OTA, Market update

Hi guys, after a 6 months period with HTC Wildfire S, i decided it was time to upgrade my device, so here i am, a newbie Nexus S user.
The first things i did with my new toy were unlocking the bootloader, gaining root permissions and installing CWM.
But i noticed that Market isn't updating, it's stuck to THIS version (i think it's 2.13)
Has this anything to do with root and cwm? Or it's just a matter of time and i'll eventually get the update?
Same thing with firmware: at the moment i'm running 2.3.3: looking for updates, and even using the *#*#checkin#*#* code, provided the same result: no FOTA available. Is this due to the root+cwm or i just need to wait?
I know this has already be discussed in the faq, but i find them quite confusing.
I mean, i know i could do a manual update, but i'd like to know whether if i'll ever receive a fota update or if i've lost this chance after root.
Q: I'm rooted with Clockwork and can't install the OTA! I updated to 2.3.1 and lost root! What gives?
most of the time, official OTAs will not install through custom recoveries because of their tendency to break root or restore things like the stock recovery. Also if you've made any modifications to the system files such as replacing the default Mms.apk(messaging) with the custom Black Mms.apk found in the Themes & Apps section, or deleted any .odex files from the system partition, it will not install. The easiest way to update to 2.3.1 is to flash a custom rom such as one of the custom ROMs or use the 2.3.1 Stock NANDROID backup found in the development section. And yes, 2.3.1 "broke root." To regain it, simply follow the steps in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884499 (All credit goes to the original author(s) of the linked thread!). The aforementioned procedure is only needed on the Stock Nandroid Backup, not any of the custom ROMs.
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Thanks in advance for the answers!

There is no update due to the root, i advice you to manually update your phone to the latest version 4.0.3 using cwm, after that root again. finally you will have rooted ics on your nexus s.

uhm, you say i won't receive updates.
FAQ says most of the time i won't receive them.
THIS thread says i will receive them.
I am confused.

from what I can make sense of, it sounds like you should be getting updates. The FAQ you posted says that if you try to install one of the official OTA updates through CWM, it will fail most of the time.
i don't know how reliable that "checkin" trick is, and it may depend on your carrier as well.
if you've already rooted your device, then i would just flash one of the custom roms, you won't want to go back to the OTA after...

Root/cwm recovery/unlocked boot loader etc has nothing at all to do with your device receiving the ota update notification

albundy2010 said:
Root/cwm recovery/unlocked boot loader etc has nothing at all to do with your device receiving the ota update notification
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Thats correct. It has only to do with the install. (It will fail).. if you dont get the notification for an ota i dont know whats wrong...
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Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?

SavageButcher said:
Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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If you had 2.3.3 the update was probably the 2.3.6 and after that you would have received the 4.0.3 update....anyway from what I remember the version of the ota update is showed in the notification bar...isn't it?!
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SavageButcher said:
Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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1. I assume it was the a step up from 2.3.3 to a max of 2.3.6 as OTA updates to 4.0.3 are currently on hold due to battery drain issue
2. your OTA install is failing because you have custom recovery (CWM) but the OTA updates require the stock recovery (3e)
if you really really want to install OTA updates, you gonna have to go back to stock recovery (do a nand restore, hope you have one) then flash the OTA updates for your device