[Oct 31]Steve's MeeGo on HD2 Updates . - HD2 MeeGo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and General

Hi,
This thread is now for MeeGo's Status, It'll be updated as soon as anything new comes up. (If you have any updates please post them here along with the source link) and I'll update the OP.
Please thank Steve (Strougthonsmith) as well as DFT for the great time they're spending on porting this awesome OS to our HD2s.
Updates :
[Jan 2] Now a video is available from Steve
[Jan 9] Wifi is working properly ! [Not via UI yet]
[Jan 22] Speed improved dramatically with a Video !!
[Jan 23] Unfortunately, Cotulla (& DFT) have suspended Meego's Development (till April ? ) for some reasons.
[Feb 01]Will be released before April, maybe in the next few days ?
[Feb 07]Not really an update, just a few more details.
[Mar 05]More and more details .
[Apr 06]Unfortunately, won't be released as expected, click for more info ..
[May 18]No progress has been made since November.
[Oct 31]Steve clarifies some things, and let's just not lose faith
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Notes ! :
*It's not released yet and no ETA, but you can Donate to Steve through his personal page or Cotulla through his personal page.
*We are not signing people up, and the poll is closed as well, these are just updates.
*I did nothing ! ..all the Thanks should go to any of Steve's posts, not me (not this post !).
*Still alot to be fixed. Even if it is released, don't expect it to be a daily-use OS (for now) .
*Current Bugs' list Provided by Cotulla .
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Steve's Blog !

Spent the day messing with my phone instead of celebrating the new year's. After a lame attempt at getting MeeGo on it myself, hell yes I'm in for any testing.

ooooh yeahhhh!!!..i dont really fancy the meego os, but then again...i didnt fancy android either, and now its my primary os

schunniky said:
Spent the day messing with my phone instead of celebrating the new year's. After a lame attempt at getting MeeGo on it myself, hell yes I'm in for any testing.
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Lizzo said:
ooooh yeahhhh!!!..i dont really fancy the meego os, but then again...i didnt fancy android either, and now its my primary os
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Thank you and all who voted yes for your support.
When we reach 100 yes-voters I will contact him demanding the instructions
Keep voting !! 76 more votes to go

kawazaki said:
Thank you and all who voted yes for your support.
When we reach 100 yes-voters I will contact him demanding the instructions
Keep voting !! 76 more votes to go
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I plan on posting the image as soon as I get the touchscreen working correctly, and WiFi would be a bonus too. Still figuring it all out, but I can guarantee you'd be disappointed if I released right now

stroughtonsmith said:
I plan on posting the image as soon as I get the touchscreen working correctly, and WiFi would be a bonus too. Still figuring it all out, but I can guarantee you'd be disappointed if I released right now
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Actually I do know that it's not fully working and most of the features are not working but I want to contribute in developing, I can be much of a help in feedbacking ? we all can !
So I won't be disappointed because I already know how will it look like
So now since this thread prooved so many people want MeeGo I ask you kindly to release it and you can update it regulary and I really appreciate it, we all do

kawazaki said:
Actually I do know that it's not fully working and most of the features are not working but I want to contribute in developing, I can be much of a help in feedbacking ? we all can !
So I won't be disappointed because I already know how will it look like
So now since this thread prooved so many people want MeeGo I ask you kindly to release it and you can update it regulary and I really appreciate it, we all do
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+1 i also wanna contribute in the developing

kawazaki said:
Actually I do know that it's not fully working and most of the features are not working but I want to contribute in developing, I can be much of a help in feedbacking ? we all can !
So I won't be disappointed because I already know how will it look like
So now since this thread prooved so many people want MeeGo I ask you kindly to release it and you can update it regulary and I really appreciate it, we all do
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What's the best way to host a 600MB file for you guys?

as long as i can brick my phone (which seems impossible) i am also ready to try!

who wouldnt want to mess with a new OS for the HD2?!

Torrent
stroughtonsmith said:
What's the best way to host a 600MB file for you guys?
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I think a torrent would be best, that way we wouldn't have to download it all at once

I'm just curious, what are the advantages of meego over ios, winmo, or even android?

lude219 said:
I'm just curious, what are the advantages of meego over ios, winmo, or even android?
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MeeGo is a full Linux distribution, using X11, so it's very portable. Both Nokia and Intel will be putting a lot of effort into MeeGo to make it perfect for phones and tablets, and it's super slick and multi-touch enabled, etc.

I agree with the rest steve this is how it would most likely play out if you release it now
if you release it now you open many doors to lots of other devs ready to tweak it and improve it just look how far android has come in less than 6 months i mean we have fully functional builds and by different devs each improving in other words if ya notice when mdeejay would release a fix for something no one else could find darkstone would implement it on his next build or vice versa. so by releasing this beta stage of meego you open many opportunities and most likely speed up the process. PLEASE STEVE RELEASE AN ALPHA BUILD WE ALL KNOW WHAT WERE GOING TO EXPECT remember android builds that were extremely unstable? im sure i speak for alot of people
(or atleaste update us with videos on how its going if you dont want to release an alpha build) YOUR STILL THE BEST ive been wanting meego over android for a long time now

crisiscore_08 said:
I agree with the rest steve this is how it would most likely play out if you release it now
if you release it now you open many doors to lots of other devs ready to tweak it and improve it just look how far android has come in less than 6 months i mean we have fully functional builds and by different devs each improving in other words if ya notice when mdeejay would release a fix for something no one else could find darkstone would implement it on his next build or vice versa. so by releasing this beta stage of meego you open many opportunities and most likely speed up the process. PLEASE STEVE RELEASE AN ALPHA BUILD WE ALL KNOW WHAT WERE GOING TO EXPECT remember android builds that were extremely unstable? im sure i speak for alot of people
(or atleaste update us with videos on how its going if you dont want to release an alpha build) YOUR STILL THE BEST ive been wanting meego over android for a long time now
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I'm getting help with the touchscreen stuff, so won't be releasing anything until I know it's working perfectly. Might take a couple days, be patient!

I'd love to see meego on my HD2! I was actually really torn between the Hd2 and n900 when I was looking for a new phone. Loved the looks of maemo and possibilities of meego but couldn't get past the n900's hardware

stroughtonsmith said:
I'm getting help with the touchscreen stuff, so won't be releasing anything until I know it's working perfectly. Might take a couple days, be patient!
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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo now i wont be sleeping for a few days

Very Keen - sign me up!

Intrested too

stroughtonsmith said:
I'm getting help with the touchscreen stuff, so won't be releasing anything until I know it's working perfectly. Might take a couple days, be patient!
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I'll be patient, I'll be patient
Meanwhile, about all this homework I've got piled up for uni...

Related

[CLOSED] ANDROID/MAEMO/LINUX on HD2:) [NO MORE ACTIVE!!]

Im not going to update this thread anymore.
It has been a terrible experience here.
All the updates from now on will be on irc channel ..
I hope everyone will be happy and excited about this closure.
Cheers.
Cant we have dual boot on the HD2. it will be cool to have android 2.0 and windows 6.5 on the phone, it will surely kick some ass. and do you think that this phone is upgradable to windows 7
Only possible for dual boot as you need to run harret to get it to boot into linux - android stuff.
Acer Liquid, coming on november will bring Android powered by a Snapdragon processor and wvga screen, I don´t know how it works but maybe it´s rom could be ported easier to HD2? and adding the Sense ui from Hero? I´m sorry I know it´s not easy, but since I´m not a developer I just can see these steps inside my head
kindadevil said:
Acer Liquid, coming on november will bring Android powered by a Snapdragon processor and wvga screen, I don´t know how it works but maybe it´s rom could be ported easier to HD2? and adding the Sense ui from Hero? I´m sorry I know it´s not easy, but since I´m not a developer I just can see these steps inside my head
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And what if I tell you that's posible
heres the qsd git https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/q...ortlog;h=refs/heads/aosp/android-msm8k-2.6.29 , cant wait till this gets to a bootable form =], my acer f1 is arriving tomorrow xD.
xmoo said:
And what if I tell you that's posible
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Cool! I like WinMo, but I would prefer to try Android, and since no hardware is better than HD2´s, and new possibilities to port Android successfully are coming, I think a new monster could be born here
yes, i`m definitally for this thing.... there will be no problem if leo won`t support wm7, if it will be able to run android...
In fact it will support wm7, but thats up to the OEM's if they want to release a wm7 test rom for these cortex 8 devices =].
HTC have says no to android on HD2, so if its going to happen your going to have to do it yourself.
What would be required? Android 1.6+ supports other CPUs including Snapdragon so what else is required to get it to work with Android? Would be very neat.
xmoo said:
And what if I tell you that's posible
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that would be great, but what makes you so shure??
who wants andorid 1.6 on the hd2. what we want is the full version of android 2.0
Definitly 2.0
maybe the release of a htc android device with the same hardware as the hd2 will make it easier for developers - but better off getting in the mindset that it won't work
the hero has the same processor as the hd1 doesn't it (and android development on that seems very difficult and slow)?
heromilkshake said:
Definitly 2.0
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that would make me forget my iphone and buy a hd2
shure2 said:
maybe the release of a htc android device with the same hardware as the hd2 will make it easier for developers - but better off getting in the mindset that it won't work
the hero has the same processor as the hd1 doesn't it (and android development on that seems very difficult and slow)?
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yeh but look at the possibilities of where we were and where we are today. progress is being made every day now, i hope you go throught the irclogs if so, and it takes time to achieve every goal. a seed doesnt grow into a tree in a day, it takes time and thats whats being talked here. so it wont be hard enough for us to get to the deep of the phone when it comes. cheers.
tids2k said:
yeh but look at the possibilities of where we were and where we are today. progress is being made every day now, i hope you go throught the irclogs if so, and it takes time to achieve every goal. a seed doesnt grow into a tree in a day, it takes time and thats whats being talked here. so it wont be hard enough for us to get to the deep of the phone when it comes. cheers.
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it would be good to see the progress.. I have read the last few pages on the blackstone and haven't seen anything from the developers. Last update was the 18th where it went back from v1.6 to v1.5?
I can't see why time is being devoted to 1.5, surely the focus should be to work on the most up to date version of android than taking a step back.
Obviously i'm not a developer for the android project on the hd1, but if one comes to the hd2 I will donate to a project with quicker progess on android 1.6, preferably 2.0.....
I have one of these HD2's on pre-order just for this reason I hope I can get something accomplished, and am willing to work on flashing and dumping things
if anyone so asks, as soon as I have it in hand.
Ill be working on it myself too.
borillion_star said:
I have one of these HD2's on pre-order just for this reason I hope I can get something accomplished, and am willing to work on flashing and dumping things
if anyone so asks, as soon as I have it in hand.
Ill be working on it myself too.
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wow .. so do i man !! im buying only for the sole pupose of seeing android on this phone

**not for HD2* CyanogenMod 6.0 RELEASE, 28August2010 **not for HD2**

...sorry, yes - this is not a direct port for HD2s...
HOWEVER!
Quite a few of the major stable and popular ports that we DO use (to include shu8i's) use CyanogenMod as their base.
Which means: a) we (depending on the RL schedules of our fine cooks) should be getting even better builds soon, and b) we are *that* much closer to getting a permanent build for our trusty HD2s.
Huzzah!
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In case you all didn't already know (and if this is already posted elsewhere/belongs elsewhere [I couldn't find it], please delete/move this thread):
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0#comments
"CyanogenMod-6.0 is hitting the mirrors right now! This is our first stable release based on Android 2.2, and we’ve hit our target list of devices. I’m completely amazed at what this project has become and the community that has developed around it, and it’s only just getting started."
and how does this help us with android development on the HD2?
FesterSilently said:
In case you all didn't already know (and if this is already posted elsewhere/belongs elsewhere [I couldn't find it], please delete/move this thread):
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0#comments
"CyanogenMod-6.0 is hitting the mirrors right now! This is our first stable release based on Android 2.2, and we’ve hit our target list of devices. I’m completely amazed at what this project has become and the community that has developed around it, and it’s only just getting started."
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Is it compatible with HTC HD2...sorry not able to find the compatible devices list as mentioned by you...pls provide the link for the same.
zweetz32 said:
and how does this help us with android development on the HD2?
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shubCRAFT is based on Cyanogenmod
****!!! Got all excited for an HD2 release. Where is Zego when when we need him, dudes been hiding under a rock for weeks. Probably got pissed shu8i took his rom, skinned it, and released it. Been waiting for a CM release, but without that nasty skin on the shubcraft.
You know, I thought I would hate the skin on shubcraft, but I'm using it with original fonts and I quite like it now. But I'm pretty much fine with using stock android, sense or this one. Guess I'm not picky haha.
All apologies...
*doublepost* Sorry!
Wow this is hd2 thread why would you post it here then
wawa144st said:
Wow this is hd2 thread why would you post it here then
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It's news related to shubcraft, I'm glad it was posted here. I wouldn't have found out about it otherwise. Being negative won't make the thread go away, so be positive or let the thread go. By posting you're just bumping it up which if you think the thread is pointless, is pointless itself.
Thanks OP
That sounds like good news since I enjoy the shubcraft builds. Can't wait to see his new one with this version.
FesterSilently said:
...sorry, yes - this is not a direct port for HD2s...
HOWEVER!
Quite a few of the major stable and popular ports that we DO use (to include shu8i's) use CyanogenMod as their base.
Which means: a) we (depending on the RL schedules of our fine cooks) should be getting even better builds soon, and b) we are *that* much closer to getting a permanent build for our trusty HD2s.
Huzzah!
~~~
In case you all didn't already know (and if this is already posted elsewhere/belongs elsewhere [I couldn't find it], please delete/move this thread):
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/home/cyanogenmod-6-0#comments
"CyanogenMod-6.0 is hitting the mirrors right now! This is our first stable release based on Android 2.2, and we’ve hit our target list of devices. I’m completely amazed at what this project has become and the community that has developed around it, and it’s only just getting started."
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Can I ask why are you posting these things here if they are not meant to be for HD2, Please don't make this room very heavy as new people find very hard to find the rights things when they are mixed with the junk like this. just post things relevant to hd2 here
I like shubCRAFT too, hope to see the progress very soon.
Thanks for great work.
Please Mod rename the topic
I've been able to test the newly released CM6 (by building a ROM for the HD2) and I can say its pretty slick...
I build these for my personal use (themed and all) but if there are enough of you who want it I could release just for you...
The potential release will be be custom themed with the possibility to "stockify" it for those who may not like the theme.
pongster said:
I've been able to test the newly released CM6 (by building a ROM for the HD2) and I can say its pretty slick...
I build these for my personal use (themed and all) but if there are enough of you who want it I could release just for you...
The potential release will be be custom themed with the possibility to "stockify" it for those who may not like the theme.
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Yes please I would appreciate this so much!
pongster said:
I've been able to test the newly released CM6 (by building a ROM for the HD2) and I can say its pretty slick...
I build these for my personal use (themed and all) but if there are enough of you who want it I could release just for you...
The potential release will be be custom themed with the possibility to "stockify" it for those who may not like the theme.
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That would be great.
pongster said:
I've been able to test the newly released CM6 (by building a ROM for the HD2) and I can say its pretty slick...
I build these for my personal use (themed and all) but if there are enough of you who want it I could release just for you...
The potential release will be be custom themed with the possibility to "stockify" it for those who may not like the theme.
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yes...of course we want it...Please...If can PM me...and give me the link...Thanks a lot
YEAH
sounds great, i'd like to test it.
greets.
poweroutlet said:
You know, I thought I would hate the skin on shubcraft, but I'm using it with original fonts and I quite like it now. But I'm pretty much fine with using stock android, sense or this one. Guess I'm not picky haha.
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I like shubcraft skin and the performance all the way! only that the most importnat feature for me, the bluetooth headset, still not working properly, it hangs when talk with bluetooth...........
pongster said:
I've been able to test the newly released CM6 (by building a ROM for the HD2) and I can say its pretty slick...
I build these for my personal use (themed and all) but if there are enough of you who want it I could release just for you...
The potential release will be be custom themed with the possibility to "stockify" it for those who may not like the theme.
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Would be very grateful to you if you can release it..!!!
Thank you..!!!

donation thread to encourage developers to make a gingerbread rom?

what do you guys think about starting this? id think it would stimulate rom development for our streaks. id be up for donating. i pitched the idea in the irc chat room hoping for some honest feedback, but i dont think djsteve wanted people stepping on his territory so he banned me from chatting. i was only trying to help! im sorry.
let me clear this up
i banned you as you were attempting to suggest that i am not working on gingerbread (i actually am if you had bothered to look at my twitter the last 2 days) and als osuggesting that all the working i have put into themeing is ugly and useless and tried to say that i shouldn be adding them, to which i told you to do it yourself then when you continued going on about it earned a ban, i never once said anything regarding gingerbread (other than its utter ****e anyway and not useful on the streak imho)
and to prove a point attached a screenie of 2.3 on streak
As Bounty,s never seem to work i will close this thread
i would like to apologize to djsteve. i didnt mean to imply that you werent working on a gingerbread rom, though you are giving me mixed feelings on the subject though with your latest comment. as far as i understood, you wherent planning on a gingerbread rom, and wasnt capable of producing one. i was just trying to get more developers in to help. i dont use twitter and havent seen yours in more 2 days so i didnt know what you where up to. could you just let me know next time without the name calling and bans. if it would help get gingerbread on, i could even donate money to you. i would work on it myself but ive had less than with success on building my own roms.
you can relock this thread, thanks for unlocking so i could apologize. youre a good moderator lufc.
i said i wudn be making a gingerbread rom as the changes required to the touchscreen driver to make it useable would not be worthwhile at that time, but the new alpha kernel dell let me have solves said issue
oh awesome. i just tried to check your twitter. theres so much on there i dont even know how to sort it. >_<
ok ill save you time, attaching the recent 2 pics i posted, the touchscreen driver has needed to be totally rewritten to work on 2.3+ so it would of not been worth my time to hack at previously is all i was meaning
Just curious, with the new touchscreen driver, does this make MIUI, Cyanogenmod, etc much easier to build? The alpha kernel supplies a big piece of the puzzle, correct?
Thanks for all your work. Hopefully it's proving to be rewarding
not really, the new driver only works on 2.3+ builds
At least with MIUI, you dont build it, you hack it. They dont release their sources so any ports to non-supported devices are hacked from the orig files.
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not really, the new driver only works on 2.3+ builds
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Since you said that the new drivers are from an alpha kernel Dell let you have, does that suggest that Dell will continue to support our Streak and maybe even release an official Gingerbread or HoneyComb rom? Or do you think that Dell may supply you with any HoneyComb supported drivers? Also, thanks for all your hard work DJ_Steve.

[Q] Is there any project about Honeycomb on HD2?

Is there any project about Honeycomb on HD2? Do you know somebody tries to port it?
there was a thread in the dev section with honeycomb but i think most efforts now are getting gingerbread working propelrly and with sense 3 coming out honeycomb has taken a backburner to it all
Lack of interest from devs I guess, and community. Seeing as everyone loves sense and gingerbread. And I don't think most are keen on the idea of a tablet ui on a phone.
If you go to the SD builds, there's a regularly updated build that emulates Gingerbread. I used it last night and quite liked it, and I may try it again when I have the time
EDIT: Sorry, Honeycomb
smeddy said:
If you go to the SD builds, there's a regularly updated build that emulates Gingerbread. I used it last night and quite liked it, and I may try it again when I have the time
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honeycomb or gingerbread? they are different os's
it is bootable now, let push imilka more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978939
its not stable i'll wait for something more stable
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its not stable i'll wait for something more stable
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No more work can be done on Honeycomb until Google release all the source code needed, getting everything working on Gingerbread sense appears to be the main focus for most now but still issues like camcorder and glitches,etc to sort out alongside some other small issues.
and they aren't planning to release the source 'till ice cream thingy is released, sometime around.after the end of teh year, they dont want people putting it on phones, cos they used trickery to make it work on tablets(is their official stance) ((all part of their slow gentle move towards controlling their own phone OS, in an iOS/WP7-like way, in my uneducated, wildguessworklike opinion, , ))

[Q] Nokia N9

Hey guys, I saw the announcement of the N9, and it looks great. Do you think it will be possible to port MeeGo from it to our HD2s?
That's what Steve has pointed to in a recent tweet. Since the build he was running was based on the source wasn't really that good, he was actually waiting for the N9 to be released
Brilliant, thanks for telling me!
I look forward to what Steve can do with the release!
There is another guy called WeeZel working on that thing too,
the project called "WeeG0", he said once he accomplish something he will be posting it here in XDA-Dev.
I will make sure to look out for WeeZel too!
Thanks for letting me know!
My friend has the N950, which is a MeeGo developer phone,
I asked for a ROM dump and I might be getting it on Friday when he has some free time.
mr_billionaire said:
My friend has the N950, which is a MeeGo developer phone,
I asked for a ROM dump and I might be getting it on Friday when he has some free time.
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great news mate... waiting for some miracle!!!
mr_billionaire said:
My friend has the N950, which is a MeeGo developer phone,
I asked for a ROM dump and I might be getting it on Friday when he has some free time.
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say could you give me a copy of the rom dump as well. Just want to play around with it to see if all this excitement is worth it. Is it alright if i pm you?
Hope the MeeGo dream come true. Bored of microsoft OSes, bored of Froyo/Ginger, give us our shot! Thx to those guys who they are really skillful in developing and porting all these OSes to Leo & thx to the htc team who created The Beast. HD2 is a legend. MeeGoGoGo!!!
Hello, any new news about port on HD2 or some other Android Phone´s?
update on this? the n9 is in sale since two weeks. I'd love to have MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan on my HTC Desire
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Hey guys and girls, i bought a Nokia N9 64GB this week and Meego/Meemo is fantastic, it has its little querks, but im sure i can change them.
Anyways, i dont know if this is what people where wanting in terms of a ROM dump or a firmware, but if you use the Nokia pheniox service tool you can get the relivent files from their fimeware archive to flash as a last resort
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514791847/279BB938_DFL61_HARMATTAN_10.2011.34-1.009.3_PR_LEGACY_009_ARM_RM-696_PRD_signed.bin
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514792462/70BEF372_RM696_059L5D4_10.2011.34.1_001.dcp
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514791841/4E239CFD_RM696_059L5D4_10.2011.34.1_001.vpl
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1111/2104/6514792467/13995DBD_RM696_059L5D4_10.2011.34.1_001_signature.bin
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/5/--FID--A0A22TLIYTWIV/--LID--FiRe1306499462173/simlock_maemo__deB_allowed2_3gstandard_bb5_multi_asic0.bin
http ://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/fdp/interface/FiRe/2011/5/--FID--A0A22FUSWBPUH/--LID--FiRe1306499463394/simlock_maemo__deB_allowed2_3gstandard_bb5_multi_asic1.bin
In total its about 1.3GB with 6 files (this is for the unlocked swiss version), if theres a problem i can upload it somewhere for people to download
I hope this will be of some use or if its not, someone will tell me exactly what they are after. Otherwise i dont know if a source code request would be help achive the goal. (My hope is to get more people onboard)
The way i see it, there is alot of talk about the death of meego and yes alot of people have/will jump ship and move onto Intels next attempt, but there is enough fans out there to keep it somewhat going and since Nokia has decided to sell a product, they should support it for at least a year if not two.
I have had a long look at what is avaliable on the Nokia store and the quality of the free apps is outstanding, the paid apps are for the most part in the same boat, but there is a fair few ports of rubbish found on the competing stores asking for your hard earned cash.
err, i dont know else to add, but
Ciao!

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