hello, sorry to be posting this in an intercept forum, but does anyone about changing the intercept froyo update to work with the moment? they seem similar enough and i feel a bit gyped. i'd probably attempt it myself if it's doable cause i dont think that they're are any custom moment roms, right?
I believe that a release of Cyanogen Mod already implements Froyo. I may be wrong. It's a nightly build/RC release. And the moment has many differences when compared to the intercept, or at least more than you seem to imply.
Unfortunately, I cannot get the 2.2 dump to boot on my Moment. The 2.1 dump from the Intercepted booted, and the Transform 2.1 booted as well. Both had issues though such as
1.Static in the audio
2.No data, or wifi.
3.Camera did not work at all
The kernel for the Intercept did not simply boot on the Moment. Thankfully, since Samsung is lazy the last Froyo for Intercept was more or less AOSP, which depending on what Samsung does when they put out the new Froyo that doesn't brick the Intercept, we may have an Intercept Froyo on the Moment. But I wouldn't worry about it too much, littlejth from SDX developers has an almost working Cmod 6 port working on the Moment, with just issues that have mainly been fixed. That and the Spica has a port of Gingerbread booting, which the Spica is more or less the GSM version of what the Moment is.
If you want to try it, take the system dump of 2.2 from the Intercept, throw it in an update package and see if it'll flash over your current rom.
Yeah it might work, but you are going to get quite a few issues. Note that those very issues might render your phone useless as a mobile device. My suggested option: do what the poster above my post said. Wait for the cyanogen mod Port.
IT WORKS!
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/mom...rom)-basic-dl05-beta-5-rom-(2-2-made-easier)/
2.2.1 working perfectly on my Moment.
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This phone has been on the market for some time now and there are almost no custom Roms for this phone. There are certainly no Froyo roms. Is there a problem with development? Did samsung release all the drivers needed?
there are in fact many custom ROMs already.
but the guys making the custom ROMs are waiting for Froyo to be released, before they go crazy on it (same here)
Samsung is releasing Froyo sometimes in September, just in time for back to school
for the time being i'm mostly evaluating all the softwares i wat to include into my own custom ROM once froyo has been released, and also building a list of build in apps that i don't use and want to remove
you can install any of the many available custom ROMs already from the DEV section just search for [ROM]
Samsung have released the source code, but reportedly the drivers are encrypted. This means all custom roms for the near future will need to be based off the official (and leaked) Samsung releases with just optimisations (eg: MoDaCo R3) or theming (eg: SamSet 1.6), but no ports or AOSP until the drivers can be recovered.
However, work has started on Cyanogen 6.0 for Galaxy S. They are stil very much in the initial stages however.
Official Froyo is due sometime in August (Korean release), so it's easiest to just wait for that and then go from there. However, we may get some leaks early if the stream of beta firmwares (still 2.1) is anything to go by.
Actually i'm quite sure Paul said that next MoDaCo release won't be based on an official samsung firmware, so I think it's just a matter of time and many ROMs will appear.
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However, work has started on Cyanogen 6.0 for Galaxy S. They are stil very much in the initial stages however.
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One can keep a tab on
hxxp://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Full_Update_Guide_-_Samsung_Galaxy_S_(International)
Well with all the hype going on about custom (and sometimes stock) firmwares. I thought I would start a discussion and Perhaps a poll to see if you are using stock or custom ROMs.
As for my 2 cents: Samsung makes great hardware (at least to my experience) but sinks it down to sleep with the fishies with poor software support including bad very bad software suites (like Kies or Media studio the latter which installed a nasty rootkit on my laptop believe it or not for DRM), prematurely axing support to its newly launched devices (I remember hacking my samsung MP3 with korean firmware as I was really angry at samsung for axing the device 2 months after its release whats up with that ).
So what about you: Do u use custom ROMs or stick to late to almost never released stock ROMs?
Stock rom.
It does what I want. Internet-games-programs. It is fast and good.
I do not see a reason to go with a custom rom.
I use modaco. because its sooooo fast.
Overcome. Hands down the best rom/kernel IMHO.
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okay ... dumb question ... i've just ordered a Tab from T-Mobile, should have it Monday or Tuesday, so ... just what is a custom ROM/Kernal going to do for me?
Thanks,
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Im sticking with stock atm...
As posted above, it does what i want.
Im on Overcome 1.3, undervolted, not overclocked
what it does for you is it removes bloatware, includes fixes to known bugs that samsung has not addressed with a proper firmware update, allows for overclocking and undervolting if you're into that, formats the file system to EXT4 making IO faster, installs a full backup and restore facility from recovery, and provides better battery life*
quadrant score from original firmware: 1000-1200
quadrant score from Overcome 1.3 no overclock: 1690
so yeah, custom IS better than stock until samsung gets all these tweaks into their official ROMs.
(*I don't know how it does that, but it does )
It should be said that in reality the split isn't just between stock and custom, but stock, "unreleased', and custom.
Most of the custom ROMs you can find here are based on Samsung's own unreleased test/dev builds (e.g. MoDaCo is based on JMI, Overcome is based on JMK). Even in their "raw" form, these unreleased ROMs are far better than those that actually ship on the device (BEWARE LOCKED BOOTLOADERS IF YOU ARE THINKING OF FLASHING ONE!!!).
If you take say Rotohammers build, it is stock JMI (JMK now?), without the locked bootloaders and pre-rooted. MoDaCo and Overcome go quite a bit further as they have completely rebuilt kernels and are tweaked for speed. Then you have Technomancers Gingerbread ROM, which is completely custom and based on CM7 rather than an existing Samsung build.
In my opinion, staying on a shipping Tab ROM means you are not getting as much out of your device as you could. Even the Samsung unreleased dev builds are way better than the shipping ROMs, so I don't know why Samsung haven't actually formally released them.
Regards,
Dave
I user overcome 1.4.4
Its much faster than the stock rom and seems to use less battery power in my particular use case.
Custom, as indicated in my signature. I have a T-Mobile Tab and in stock form, it was extremely slow. It sucked.
chicken roms is better ever
For those who say stock is fine i say you have no idea what you are missing. Try both, then make a decision. Custom all the way baby!
T-Mobile tab running latest Overcome
As a bell mobility tab user, i used the stock one (jj3) i think for about a month.
After that i decided to go with roto jme then jmg and after that went to modaco.
Was on modaco for about the last 3 months and i have decided to flash overcome.
There is a significant speed difference between modaco and overcome. I noticed lag in angry birds seasons with modaco but with overcome, barely any.
I am happy with flashing a custom Rom and would never go back to stock.
If only i could get a copy of the stock Rom just in case of any issues.
Hope that helps.
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The hardware is superb but it's let down badly by Samsung in not keeping it up to date with firmwares.
Using Custom roms solves this and provides an all round quality tablet so, yeah, custom roms for me.
I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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I use a stock rom for now, but once my download for Overcome is done, I'll switch to it.
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Read the guides before flashing.
I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
Tried going back to stock. I could not find the stock firmware that was originally available on the device. All «stock» firmwares in the wild had the same issues as the MoDaCo and Overcome. I was shocked and seriously puzzled!
Went to the repair shop and asked them to flash the device with the original.
- Two days later I was told, that they need some special cable to flash the device, and it's going to take a week to get it from Korea(!).
- One week later I was told, that the device needed motherboard replacement.
- One more week later I got the device.
Now my device has Excellent language support, but still fails to report Neighbouring GSM Cells.
Eventually I installed a Winblows in a VM (Bleh!) to try Kies.
To my greatest surprise after eventually connecting Kies says that my device is 'Not Upgradeable'.
So my adventure with custom firmwares is MOST unfortunate.
My ¢2: new users should NOT replace firmware unless they BADLY need something that SUPPOSEDLY a custom firmware would give.
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I had stock. It was excellent, good multi-language support, excellent hardware support.
Tried MoDaCo. Lost most of language support. Hardware support only for the basic stuff.
Replaced with Overcome. Language support even sketchier. Battery performance awful. Hardware support still only basic stuff.
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Can you please elaborate more what do you mean by "hardware support", what would be the difference between "basic stuff" and "excellent"?
AFAIK, the custom ROMS are based on stock ROM, thus I can't understand there will be any difference over hardware support level.
With custom ROMs you are more free!
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Read the guides before flashing.
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I did. I ended up installing Rotohammer's instead, though. It works fine.
First off, this is my first post here, so hi everyone. After a few months with my unrooted Desire HD, I decided to root. I was hesitant mainly due to how complex the process was. I am with telus, which means I had to downgrade to a rootable firmware version (the Telus one isn't rootable for some reason). I needed to install a gold card for this. After this, I temp rooted and permanently rooted successfully. My first custom ROM is MIUI (freshly squeezed edition). I find it to be very fluid and fast and is definetly good looking. Its nice to see a ROM based on something other than stock Android or Sense. The software build that comes with this ROM (2.3.4) is also very fast, a huge step up from the laggy 2.2.1 software that Telus shipped with it.
Again, I am new and know very little about rooting and development in general, buy I plan to be using custom ROMs very often and I thought this site would be a good place to give feedback on custom ROMs. (I noticed you need at least 10 posts to access the developers forum).
The only problem I have with MIUI is that the messaging app constantly force closes.
Welcome ..
the 10 post limit is a bummer .. but you'll get there ..
Rom paradise will open soon ..
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First off, this is my first post here, so hi everyone. After a few months with my unrooted Desire HD, I decided to root. I was hesitant mainly due to how complex the process was. I am with telus, which means I had to downgrade to a rootable firmware version (the Telus one isn't rootable for some reason). I needed to install a gold card for this. After this, I temp rooted and permanently rooted successfully. My first custom ROM is MIUI (freshly squeezed edition). I find it to be very fluid and fast and is definetly good looking. Its nice to see a ROM based on something other than stock Android or Sense. The software build that comes with this ROM (2.3.4) is also very fast, a huge step up from the laggy 2.2.1 software that Telus shipped with it.
Again, I am new and know very little about rooting and development in general, buy I plan to be using custom ROMs very often and I thought this site would be a good place to give feedback on custom ROMs. (I noticed you need at least 10 posts to access the developers forum).
The only problem I have with MIUI is that the messaging app constantly force closes.
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Hi All,
I am a new A500 owner and a long time Viewsonic G Tablet owner; I know why I put a Custom Rom on the G Tablet (Stock Rom Sucked and VS dropped support). However after playing with my new A500 for the last week I really can see no reason so far to put a custom rom on this tablet.
The stock rom rooted and a few extras added/fixed like...
GPS Fix
NTFS Mount
Rooted
CWM Added
have really made this a very stable and very effective rom. I have been reading through the forum and I see a significant number of custom roms out there. I am sure they are there for a reason however for the life of me I can not determine why I would want to install any of them. I do also understand that I am coming late to the game on this tablet as I am sure these were probably developed to fix deficiencies in the stock rom when the tablet was first released.
So can someone explain to me why I would want to switch to a custom rom today given the stability and fixes available for the stock rom?
This is not meant to be a dig on any individual, group or any dev of these roms; I know these folks do an outstanding job and I appreciate every single one of them. However for someone new to this tablet it would be great to know what makes the custom roms better than what I already have with the stock/fixed rom I am running. I am currently running;
Android Version: 3.1
Kernel Version: 2.6.36.3
Build Number: Acer_A500_4.010.11_COM_GEN2
This is a sincere question and I would appreciate not getting flamed or bashed for asking. This is in the Q&A section so I am hoping this is the right place to get the answers I am seeking.
" The only way to learn is to ask... so I am asking "
To me I think everyone installs custom roms for all diffrent reasons. Each rom has its own benefits and restrictions. I have tried a few and always go back to stock.
Good luck and flash with great Caution
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To me I think everyone installs custom roms for all diffrent reasons. Each rom has its own benefits and restrictions. I have tried a few and always go back to stock.
Good luck and flash with great Caution
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Hi Erica Renee,
Thank you for the quick reply... I was just not sure if there was a relevant issue that would persuade me to move from my stock rom to a custom one. I very much appreciate your response!!!
Rick
I'm coming from a Viewsonic Gtablet, and with the gtablet a custom rom was a must, here with the iconia I don't see any advantage to use a custom rom, Android 3.1 has everything I wanted. I only rooted it for ad-hoc support, but barely I use the ad-hoc, is only for emergencies, besides that, even rooting is not really necessary. Android OS backups all application settings, so each time I uninstall and reinstall an application, my former settings are there.
Just enjoy your Iconia
Frankly, I haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM to the A500. I did root it to be able to use certain apps.
I have tried a variety of ROMs and kernels on my HTC EVO 4G, but that's because stock Froyo and even stock Gingerbread is boring. I think stock Honeycomb looks and performs great. It makes me really look forward to Icecream Sandwich.
I did add ADWLauncher to my A500, so maybe that's another reason why I haven't felt the need to flash a custom ROM.
i find myself in the same boat...
Running stock 3.1, rooted, cwm running - quite happy.
If you want to take it a step further, install Richardtrip's custom kernal and SetCPU and you will be amazed.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Running stock 3.1, rooted, cwm running - quite happy.
If you want to take it a step further, install Richardtrip's custom kernal and SetCPU and you will be amazed.
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Hi entropy.of.avarice,
Thank you for the feedback, it is truly appreciated! I would not mind installing the new kernel as long as I knew for sure it would not break all that works well on my tablet right now.
Still on stock since I got mine - though I have since rooted - I'm not really making any use of it, only for file permissions and dropping boot animations onto the folder directly rather than through ADB.
I shopped around some of the ROM's floating around here and other that a few of the Touchwiz UI functions from Galaxy, [I don't even think it's supported or still available right now] there's nothing out there that would add to my experience in any appreciable way to risk going through all that [and back again] when I want to.
Stock is stable, runs smooth and fast and is supported if something ****s up and that is all I need - my life doesn't live and breath by the tablet so it's perfect for what I need it to be and what I need it to do.
I am using self-cooked official honeycomb 3.2 ROM (rooted, ad-hoc fix, etc)
with self-compiled 3.2 kernel, OC and apply different kind of fixes & patches.
Installing custom ROM & kernel is the act of tailor making your own OS.
It is why android is so attractive and additive.
Whay a non-stock ROM?
There are about as many answers to this as there are ROMs.
I have CWM / Recovery / Taboonay 2.0 w/ richardtrip's OC-able kernel (oc'd to 15000) and the tablet is Super Snappy! It has ad hoc support for tethering to my phone via WiFi, no random wake ups, Netflix with no broken cameras, Good GPS lock (after a bit of futzing...)
I was originally just gonna put 3.2 on there to experiment with and flash back after playing with it, but I got REALLY lucky. Did a FULL CWM backup and just flashed the ROM & Kernel over my existing ROM without wiping and...it just worked without me having to redo everything. So I just kept going..
I'd say at this point on the tablet no one REALLY needs 3.2, but a few of the modded kernels out there fix a number of sore spots that I wish ACER would just take care of...
I love our DEVS!
So...Up to you! But I currently LOVE taboonay 2.0 and the RT kernel...No issues at all for me...
(p.s. I still have two preceding backups of a couple of states of working 3.1 on my SD card that are 3 weeks apart that function wonderfully Just In Case! so, yeah..nothing really to lose by playing and testing...)
Why a non-stock ROM?
There are about as many answers to this as there are ROMs.
I have CWM / Recovery / Taboonay 2.0 w/ richardtrip's OC-able kernel (oc'd to 15000) and the tablet is Super Snappy! It has ad hoc support for tethering to my phone via WiFi, no random wake ups, Netflix with no broken cameras, Good GPS lock (after a bit of futzing...)
I was originally just gonna put 3.2 on there to experiment with and flash back after playing with it, but I got REALLY lucky. Did a FULL CWM backup and just flashed the ROM & Kernel over my existing ROM without wiping and...it just worked without me having to redo everything. So I just kept going..
I'd say at this point on the tablet no one REALLY needs 3.2, but a few of the modded kernels out there fix a number of sore spots that I wish ACER would just take care of...
I love our DEVS!
So...Up to you! But I currently LOVE taboonay 2.0 and the RT kernel...No issues at all for me...
(p.s. I still have two preceding backups of a couple of states of working 3.1 on my SD card that are 3 weeks apart that function wonderfully Just In Case! so, yeah..nothing really to lose by playing and testing...)
I rooted to gain performance. Taboonay and Richards kernel have given me a huge performance increase, no more lag.
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Don't change unless you don't have a life and you want to spend all your hours figuring out what is wrong, have tried them all and stock is less head ake.
I have just rooted my phone and to do so I had to downgrade to its original stock firmware instead of what it had automatically upgraded to.
I needed root access primarily so I could run tethering apps.
Is there a way to get the phone to take an update from T-Mobile to get back up to Gingerbread?
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Secondarily, the only other Android device I have is an HP Touchpan which is running CM9-ICS. I quite like ICS, but am concerned the current ROMs listed here seem less than stable. Are any of them rock solid while still giving full access to the hardware (GPS, camera, camcorder, audio, etc.)
Without starting a flame war, which ICS ROM would you suggest or shoudl I stck with Gingerbread?
Thanks
Spektre99 said:
I have just rooted my phone and to do so I had to downgrade to its original stock firmware instead of what it had automatically upgraded to.
I needed root access primarily so I could run tethering apps.
Is there a way to get the phone to take an update from T-Mobile to get back up to Gingerbread?
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Secondarily, the only other Android device I have is an HP Touchpan which is running CM9-ICS. I quite like ICS, but am concerned the current ROMs listed here seem less than stable. Are any of them rock solid while still giving full access to the hardware (GPS, camera, camcorder, audio, etc.)
Without starting a flame war, which ICS ROM would you suggest or shoudl I stck with Gingerbread?
Thanks
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Well I believe that the most stable ICS rom is the CM9 port by 0.0. If you want a different flavor I have a GB rom tweaked to look just like iPhone that has everything working just fine. You can check that out see if you like it. And if you want just a regular GB rom would check out the CM7 nightlies section. Hope this helped
EDIT: I didn't mention this, but Synthetic Nightmare's aospX ICS is also very clean, simple, stable. Its not much tweaked, but very snappy and fast.