Nexus s board - Epic 4G General

They just closed my thread and labeled it as a "troll thread" because I posted about how the dualcore lg phone is what the ns should've been...lmao
They're so sensitive over their phone lol
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Come to think of it...the mods are the same way here too.
Whenever something is posted that belittles the epic, it gets closed...
That's weird in america
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The Epic has a less than epic man part.
Its e-peen is so small it's girlfriend thought it was a zit and tried popping it.
If the Epic was a computer it'd make a TRS-80 look like a Cray.
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othan1 said:
The Epic has a less than epic man part.
Its e-peen is so small it's girlfriend thought it was a zit and tried popping it.
If the Epic was a computer it'd make a TRS-80 look like a Cray.
/Testing...testing...
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Lmao!
Chill bruh. We don't want no one to get banned for expressing their negative opinion of a phone on a forum labeled "general"!
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Why the hell is this posted here? Why would anyone possibly care that one of your stupid threads was closed on a completely separate board??

Related

cluck cluck cluck

*poof* just like magic :O
Ok, this is interesting. BThomas what do you have to say about this?
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Oh ****.
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As I replied in the kernel thread where you posted this as well (which I believe now constitutes spamming lol)...
Why wasnt this handled via PM or irc?
I dont like slander...true or not, the title of your thread is unnecessary
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squshy 7 said:
As I replied in the kernel thread where you posted this as well (which I believe now constitutes spamming lol)...
Why wasnt this handled via PM or irc?
I dont like slander...true or not, the title of your thread is unnecessary
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Well if is true, by definition it is not slander (or libel as it would be since it is written).
squshy 7 said:
As I replied in the kernel thread where you posted this as well (which I believe now constitutes spamming lol)...
Why wasnt this handled via PM or irc?
I dont like slander...true or not, the title of your thread is unnecessary
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If its true then this thread is very necessary.
Consider it xda wikileaks...
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Why wasnt this handled via PM or irc?
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I believe the intention is to force bthomas (if this is true, I don't know enough to have any kind of opinion on this) to openly apologize and/or acknowledge the "borrowed" code.
actually i have sent him a pm, as for irc i am unaware of a teamviper irc room and as i idle in both epic chatrooms constantly i have yet to see bthomas in either of them.
indeed had he asked or simply forked the code (as it is all on github ) and fixed it then no issues the reason why this code wasnt publicly posted in a rom or whatever is because in its current state.. it doesnt work, it polls the cpu but it does it unevenly and actually causes the cpu % to spike thus draining more battery...
as i dont have an epic anymore i havent felt the drive to sit down and finish it (various things like life, college, my pregnant gf) have kept me busy for quite a bit.
Quis89 said:
If its true then this thread is very necessary.
Consider it xda wikileaks...
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How is it necessary? Theres really nothing to be gained by doing it publicly...
Nobody gets paid for this developing so "bad publicity" doesn't hold any water here...
shabbypenguin doesnt stand to gain anything other than an apology and credit...which could have been accomplished just as easily in private..so again I ask...why do this publicly
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Look if this is true I would be pissed off too. All the hard work that someone puts into something and then for it to get taken from them. Like I said I have no idea.
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squshy 7 said:
How is it necessary? Theres really nothing to be gained by doing it publicly...
Nobody gets paid for this developing so "bad publicity" doesn't hold any water here...
shabbypenguin doesnt stand to gain anything other than an apology and credit...which could have been accomplished just as easily in private..so again I ask...why do this publicly
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wrong, if even one user donates to bthomas for this battery tweak then it is money ill spent. no i dont care about them for me (check the ORIGNAL RELEASE THREAD, i put collin_ph's donation link as it was his idea for this script and he was the one who made it)
Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight!
I agree with shabbypenguin. If this is true than that is a violation of gpl. Same thing someone else was doing in here a while ago that got banned.
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dtugg said:
Well if is true, by definition it is not slander (or libel as it would be since it is written).
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... bump... I think
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musclehead84 said:
I agree with shabbypenguin. If this is true than that is a violation of gpl. Same thing someone else was doing in here a while ago that got banned.
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That someone would be hero_over, in fact he showed up pretty recently when baked snack 2.0 was released publicly by someone.
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... bump... I think
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while i do appreciate the effort there is no need to bump the thread. thanks tho
hahah please read the updated op
Hey Shabby how about you translate what the updated part of the OP means for people like me; don't have a clue what all that is haha
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wrong, if even one user donates to bthomas for this battery tweak then it is money ill spent.
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+1 to that! if he's violating gpl and accepting donations for "his work" when its not his and no credit given then it does deserve attention and/or an explaination.
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where did it all go?!?!

[REQ Close thread]I've been getting a few messages lately

Different people have asked me privately if I would mind if they nominated me to be an Epic 4g mod. So, I'm saying this so everyone knows. I thank those that think i'd be a good mod, I really do, but I don't have time to be a mod. I'm only on xda a lot because of the app, I'm hardly ever on a pc. And school and soccer are starting back soon. So, thanks, but please don't request me anymore .
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
zanderman112 said:
Different people have asked me privately if I would mind if they nominated me to be an Epic 4g mod. So, I'm saying this so everyone knows. I thank those that think i'd be a good mod, I really do, but I don't have time to be a mod. I'm only on xda a lot because of the app, I'm hardly ever on a pc. And school and soccer are starting back soon. So, thanks, but please don't request me anymore .
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
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That's too bad because you would have done a good job and just by posting this it shows you have the community's best interest at heart.
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JohnCorleone said:
That's too bad because you would have done a good job and just by posting this it shows you have the community's best interest at heart.
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Thank you. And yes I do, this community is my favorite thing to visit throughout he day, and while i'd love to be the one to keep it clean, I know I wouldnt be able to do so.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Be careful, some whiny moron will report this thread and get it moved to off-topic in the Algerian section of XDA.
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kennyglass123 said:
Be careful, some whiny moron will report this thread and get it moved to off-topic in the Algerian section of XDA.
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I know, which is why we need mods who can keep up with this section. Algerian lol.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
Zander 4 mod! Honestly ur phone has a browser. Muhahaha
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Overstew said:
Zander 4 mod! Honestly ur phone has a browser. Muhahaha
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Hah, ya, but xda is crap in the phone browser. Maybe if I got a tablet or something, but that won't happen any time soon... Its just I hardly ever use a pc.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
I have mod experience from another site, i could be one, but i don't have enough time to mod even that site, mod work is fun but at the same time its very time consuming.
Would be cool to be a mod here tho
davidrules7778 said:
I have mod experience from another site, i could be one, but i don't have enough time to mod even that site, mod work is fun but at the same time its very time consuming.
Would be cool to be a mod here tho
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Ya, but you have to be on top of every thread, nothing should go unread.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
YOUR PHONE HAS A BROWSER?! NO FAAIR! I just got this crappy Kernel Source Leak and nuffin to do with it.
Time to put it in dah Recycling Bin!
I have time to read everything. I wouldnt mind being a mod. I dont post much but I been here over a year. And I enjoy my epic very much. Where do I apply?
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I agree, I nominate the SINN.
Whosdaman said:
I agree, I nominate the SINN.
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Lol. Oh no..armageddon would surely ensue. NoSoMo and Sinn both. Just sayin'.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.
That awkward moment when Zandercat makes a Thread about a PM you sent him, and makes it sound like a kajilion other people sent him the same exact PM...
Original Android <3ers! said:
That awkward moment when Zandercat makes a Thread about a PM you sent him, and makes it sound like a kajilion other people sent him the same exact PM...
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Yepp, i have gotten more than one PM asking about this the past few days. Yours just made me realize i needed to say it publicly so i wouldnt get any more messages concerning this subject. You're the only one making it "awkward"
kennyglass123 said:
Be careful, some whiny moron will report this thread and get it moved to off-topic in the Algerian section of XDA.
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Do you nominate me to report it as off topic?
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/unappreciated
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squshy 7 said:
/unappreciated
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Huh? 10char
zanderman112 said:
Huh? 10char
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I'm high.
Sent from my lol
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I'm high.
Sent from my lol
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Okay? Good for you.
Posted by Mr. Z's Epic 4G.

:: sigh ::

http://www.androidcentral.com/cyano...droid+Central)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
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I've given up on cm for the epic. By the time they get it on the epic I'll have a galaxy s4.
- Ron
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Another useless thread.
063_XOBX said:
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Another useless thread.
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followed by another useless comment!
:: sigh ::
From a link in the comments.
"While containing similar internals to the rest of the Galaxy S line, a vast majority of the hardware seems to differ enough to make the current line of development incompatible with this device in a way that seems unfixable."
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followed by another useless comment!
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All this thread does is cause negativity. If you want something so bad, do it yourself.
check the miui thread under dev... we are trying to raise money to donate an epic to either cyanogen mod or some other good dev willing to work on the epic.. i will make a thread soon but all donations will help and maybe make us one step closer to cm7/miui.
omair2005 said:
check the miui thread under dev... we are trying to raise money to donate an epic to either cyanogen mod or some other good dev willing to work on the epic.. i will make a thread soon but all donations will help and maybe make us one step closer to cm7/miui.
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if we could get a epic to cyanogen, developement would sky-rocket.
on the other hand my next phone will have cm support before i buy it, its now a requirement :X.
galland1 said:
From a link in the comments.
"While containing similar internals to the rest of the Galaxy S line, a vast majority of the hardware seems to differ enough to make the current line of development incompatible with this device in a way that seems unfixable."
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Saw this as well...doesn't sound good.
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galland1 said:
From a link in the comments.
"While containing similar internals to the rest of the Galaxy S line, a vast majority of the hardware seems to differ enough to make the current line of development incompatible with this device in a way that seems unfixable."
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I smell smokescreen. I mean if the Fascinate can get CM7 running, exactly why not the Epic? They say it's "different" but if you can get CM7 running on the only other CDMA based Galaxy S device, it can't possibly be that hard to get it onto the Epic (keyboard too hard to deal with or something? lol!). They just don't want to try, pure and simple.
063_XOBX said:
All this thread does is cause negativity. If you want something so bad, do it yourself.
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One of your friends need to pull the stick out your ass or get you laid. Something has to give!
im pretty sure cyanogen would love to work on our devices .. after i offered him a epic 5 times via twitter and no response ,,, i already given up on cm7 and i don't support it either .. hope we can soon but by the time that happens cm8 would already be out lol
You do know that he doesn't necesarily check his twitter right? Post a thread in adroid general and let's see where that goes.
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063_XOBX said:
All this thread does is cause negativity. If you want something so bad, do it yourself.
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irony
10
why dont we have cm support yet?
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Art2Fly said:
You do know that he doesn't necesarily check his twitter right? Post a thread in adroid general and let's see where that goes.
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At the moment he isn't, I've had conversations with him about the Epic and he said they had a team working on it.
But quite a few months ago though.
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Yea but people here were so ****en impatient and kept asking for ETAs and got the.guys working on it mad and the thread locked so don't blame people for not trying but blame the ones who.could keep there mouth shut
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At the moment he isn't, I've had conversations with him about the Epic and he said they had a team working on it.
But quite a few months ago though.
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This question has been answered multiple times. They are waiting for gingerbread source code for our phone and then they will continue development on cm7. Im pretty sure once we get the source code it will come out really quick
Edit. Ment to quote ksweat2292
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Yea but people here were so ****en impatient and kept asking for ETAs and got the.guys working on it mad and the thread locked so don't blame people for not trying but blame the ones who.could keep there mouth shut
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That really wasn't it....yes they were annoying but by asking for ETAS every five minutes but the thread was closed due to a standstill poor being reached. Whether people were being annoying or not the developers reached a point of no crossing, especially when source is nearby.
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It is what it is... End the thread with that! ...
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Isn't this the Epic 4G section?

Scrolling through the threads all I see are Epic Touch threads. Isn't there a Epic Touch section now? I wish they would move all those threads over there.
Call me crazy but I think the Epic Touch 4G threads should be in the Epic Touch 4G forum section.
I still don't get why they called this the phone the Epic Touch since there isn't a keyboard but there's a whole other topic in itself.
Please clean the forums up.
digiblur said:
Scrolling through the threads all I see are Epic Touch threads. Isn't there a Epic Touch section now? I wish they would move all those threads over there.
Call me crazy but I think the Epic Touch 4G threads should be in the Epic Touch 4G forum section.
I still don't get why they called this the phone the Epic Touch since there isn't a keyboard but there's a whole other topic in itself.
Please clean the forums up.
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Man you just answer your own questions for yourself.
There wasn't an Epic Touch forum, but it was just created recently.
The phone is called Epic Touch BECAUSE there isn't a keyboard... get it??
Why don't you help and report the threads?
another useless thread. obviously epic users want to talk about the touch
algorhythm said:
Man you just answer your own questions for yourself.
There wasn't an Epic Touch forum, but it was just created recently.
The phone is called Epic Touch BECAUSE there isn't a keyboard... get it??
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Just call it the Samsung Touch 4G then. Nothing Epic about it.
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sc00ty said:
Why don't you help and report the threads?
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I'd wear out the report button!
Maybe we should go talk about the Epic touch all over in the EVO forums too.
Its not like its a problem for anyone else but you.
Atleast the epics forums are lively again. Otherwie the only thread would be the pointless rumor shop where al they do is post stupid rdf's that mean nothing except tha is going to take longer to get gb with all those new builds.
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Actually it bothers me a little too. One or two threads wouldn't be bad but now it is like every other thread. Some of these new threads should really be incorporated into the others.
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Bothers me too, not enough to start a thread but enough to agree with OP
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Me 3... I bought the epic, not the epic touch. I am looking around for epic related stuff and the epic touch is not related. I can handle a few off topics, but there has been way too many on just the epic touch...
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Me 4, The epic touch has been covered way to much in way too many threads.
Thats cuz no one has anything productive to say about the epic right now.
When gb gets out, therell be a lot more on topic threads. The epic touch is the next step in the epic (officially, atleast. Personally, its a whole different product line.) So its natural for users to wanna discuss it.
But I do feel like there's a lot of duplicate threads regarding the epic touch reviews and such.
I just want gb so that we can finally focus on just our phone since it won't be in a state of upgrade limbo anymore (considering we are defnitely not getting anything above gb so when it comes out, it can finally be optimized by the devs and they won't be wasting their time.)
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I got one and it bothers me a bit too. There's plenty of things Epic to discuss as well
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JohnCorleone said:
I got one and it bothers me a bit too. There's plenty of things Epic to discuss as well
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!!!
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I have actually enjoyed them, after all, it beats threads full of *****ing about the wait for GB anyday, at least IMO. and its given me something to read while I wait for the next GB leak to drop
I enjoyed them before the SGS2ET4G Section was created.
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DCRocks said:
I have actually enjoyed them, after all, it beats threads full of *****ing about the wait for GB anyday, at least IMO. and its given me something to read while I wait for the next GB leak to drop
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This is very true. Complaining about getting official GB isn't going to help us get it any faster
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No need to waste even more forum space with a thread about threads about Epic Touch.
If you see any in the wrong forum, report them. Personally, I can't really see too many.

NOT Another Goodbye Thread

Well its not... eh sort of just ordered my gnex today. Soo pretty soon here I will being jumping forums. Id just like to start an appreciation thread. I don't know if most people realize this but, this forum is in pristine organization. Looking at my new forum... it is SO unorginized so crowded, and people hardly get along. Here people collaborate, help, and inform. However we do have our flame wars.... but those are soon resolved. Also people here are very appreciative... I don't know how or what exactly I did to deserve 900+ thanks... but people sure do appreciate things. Anyways to wrap this up id just like to say thanks for the wonderful expierence with android and xda. Had it not been for the orginized and close-nit community we have here in the Epic 4g forum I would still be running an out-dated version of android or a bloated version.
Thanks
So here express what you are thankful for in this Community.
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Thanks For Your Help
And for your company, dude. Really enjoyed our chats.
You ain't going anywhere. I will have you banned from the G-nex forums and have your account locked onto the Epic!
Just kidding! Man it has been a great ride. You really stepped up and helped everyone you could. Best of luck over at that zoo you are going to. It gives me headaches moderating there.
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You ain't going anywhere. I will have you banned from the G-nex forums and have your account locked onto the Epic!
Just kidding! Man it has been a great ride. You really stepped up and helped everyone you could. Best of luck over at that zoo you are going to. It gives me headaches moderating there.
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I LOL'd !!! 10 char
Many thanks, Uber! You are a brilliant contributor and have given much of yourself to our community! Good luck with the GNex! (watch out for their moderator, I hear he's a ball-buster)...
Yes...Good Kenny. Slowly my list grows shorter.
I mean a-buh-bye!
kennyglass123 said:
You ain't going anywhere. I will have you banned from the G-nex forums and have your account locked onto the Epic!
Just kidding! Man it has been a great ride. You really stepped up and helped everyone you could. Best of luck over at that zoo you are going to. It gives me headaches moderating there.
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Ur not a senior mod u cant ban
I will be leaving sorta also next friday, might come by and update my epic for my gf but otherwise ill be leaving with uber
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Ur not a senior mod u cant ban
I will be leaving sorta also next friday, might come by and update my epic for my gf but otherwise ill be leaving with uber
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Are you threatening me?
I am cornholio!
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Are you threatening me?
I am cornholio!
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u need TP for you bunghole?
And no mr. MOD
We Don't Need No Stinkin' Badges In Order To Ban Folks !!!! Good Riddence To The Both Of Ye !!!! ......................................................... Just Kiddin'
It's Been Fun Seeing U Guys In These Threads and Good Luck On Your New Phones
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(watch out for their moderator, I hear he's a ball-buster)...
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I lol'd
Seriously you will be missed Uber. You have helped out a lot. Hope to see you around. I got till December before I decide what I will update too.
Nooooooo! Oh wait, I already left too. You'll be lurking, we all know it. No one erases their bookmark to the OG Epic Forum.
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Nooooooo! Oh wait, I already left too. You'll be lurking, we all know it. No one erases their bookmark to the OG Epic Forum.
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I will be... since im in charge of compiling and updating the epic's samurai's kernel to help alleviate the pressure from earthbound and his gnex development.
Nobody truly leaves. I haven't had the Epic for 5 months and I post as much here as I do in the Nexus forum.
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Nobody truly leaves. I haven't had the Epic for 5 months and I post as much here as I do in the Nexus forum.
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shane, your so nice. you should have had one of these threads. you are truley an inspiration, both here and at ppcgeeks.
I just like to troll bunny's at ppcgeeks these days.
I never started one of these threads because I try to stay somewhat active over here and help where I can.
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shane, your so nice. you should have had one of these threads. you are truley an inspiration, both here and at ppcgeeks.
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shane6374 said:
I just like to troll bunny's at ppcgeeks these days.
I never started one of these threads because I try to stay somewhat active over here and help where I can.
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PPCG used to be the spot, it's so damn desolate there now.
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Soo true... I never will truly leave but won't be as participating in everything.
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ÜBER™ said:
Well its not... eh sort of just ordered my gnex today. Soo pretty soon here I will being jumping forums. Id just like to start an appreciation thread. I don't know if most people realize this but, this forum is in pristine organization. Looking at my new forum... it is SO unorginized so crowded, and people hardly get along. Here people collaborate, help, and inform. However we do have our flame wars.... but those are soon resolved. Also people here are very appreciative... I don't know how or what exactly I did to deserve 900+ thanks... but people sure do appreciate things. Anyways to wrap this up id just like to say thanks for the wonderful expierence with android and xda. Had it not been for the orginized and close-nit community we have here in the Epic 4g forum I would still be running an out-dated version of android or a bloated version.
Thanks
So here express what you are thankful for in this Community.
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That is soooooo True!!! I don't understand why the other forums can not keep it like the EPIC 4G Forums. Other than the keyboard, Its one of the reasons I haven't jumped phones yet. Anyways, Best of luck to you over there.
So far so good... was on stock for about 10 minutes then rooted and flashed a custom rom and kernel. I was a little upset when I thought I bricked it... but figuring out what I did wrong I was set up in no time.
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