Hello Fellow G3 Users!
First of all, I'd like to say a big Thanks to all the developers who helped making this phone much more powerful throughout the months. I've been using Kyrillos' ROM since v3.0 and I'm very happy with it, but I still got one not so little problem.
Whenever I play videos, I always experience some delay in the sound playback (about 0,5 sec late to the video). I've tried many video players (by default I use mVideo), but it never got fixed. It also happens with Youtube videos, but more importantly it appears in games too! So far I ignored it, but nowadays I travel much more and I want to watch videos, so the delay became very annoying.
I experimented with many things and found out the followings:
-it's not the SD card's problem as it's class 10 (cannot be any faster), tried many settings with the SD speed fix without any success and like I said, it's the same with Youtube which is internal.
-it's not the ROM; tried with multiple stock ROMs and Custom ones too
-it's not the kernel; tried stock, and different fugumod and g3mod versions
-played around the settings in Voodoo sound but same result
-it's not the video player, because it happens in games too.
So my guess is, that it's either hardware problem with my own phone or simply the general sound driver/decoder is faulty (probably sound buffer, but I'm no expert in this)
I didn't find any discussion on these subject (except this old thread), so I'm corious if this happens to your phones too. You should notice this much delay in videos. If you know if there's a solution for this, please let me know as it's quite a shame now that my smartphone fails to deliver such a basic feature as watching videos...
Thanks in advance!
FlemX
Yeah, well I do to expierence delays sometimes but not always.
Sound is perfect on every ROM I've used. I mainly used Kyrillos' v7.0 which was perfect when it came to sound playback and now I'm using stock XXJPU which is fine since I've played a few videos on it. Not much but I'll try later (my bros playing games on it ) and see if there's any problems.
Ok, I should explain a bit more.
It's not always the same delay, it seems that in the video player (mVideo) it's the shortest, bit still noticable (~0,3 sec), and it may vary if I seek in the video. It's not unwatchable, just annoying (yeah, I'm sensitive to this )
What I really want to know that what driver/decoder setting may cause the delay in sound and if there's a way I can change it. I'm not afraid to modify system files if it's needed.
Can a developer or anyone familiar with this here help me please?
i sometimes have the same thing using kyorarom 0.4.0b2, but also on other roms i tried. i always thought it was network related.
Same problem here. I use MX video player coz I have smallest lag in it.
And lagging is changing, sometime is just 0,1 sometime 0,3 sec but never without it.
I had playback without lag on stock Froyo video player but even than not always.
Now I'm on Kyrillos 8.1
Tried everything, programs, codecs, overclock, tried class 2,4,10 sdcard, no luck.
Please find some solution.
EDIT: Come on, does only few of us here have this problem?; I can't believe that, coz I had this problem from day 1, so it couldn't be that I messed something up coz I got phone that way from the shop!
Can anyone help, please?
It seems more of us have this problem after all.
Maybe people don't look movies on g3 so they do not bother with this problem.
Same "problem" here. I've tried recoding various video clips - different formats, bit-rates etc - but there's always that slight lack of synch. It's most obvious with plosive sounds - a brief clip from Iron Man 2 where Stark bangs his fists onto a desktop has a very noticable delay between the action and the sound.
I'm on
PDA: I5800XXJPU
PHONE: I5800XXJP4
CSC: I5800XXKPO
...but I tried with Kyrillo's O/C and there was no difference. Tried with basic video app and a couple of third party players - exactly the same "delay".
I can't see it making any difference but I'll be getting a new, faster SDHC card this week - if that makes any difference, I'll let you know.
I suspect it's a codec problem as the amount of delay varies - increasing in "busy" scenes. There are a few more things to try such as encoding with variable bit-rates. If I do find an optimum encoding, I'll post back. Meanwhile, perhaps people could post full details of the videos they've tried - video format and resolution, bit-rates for vid and audio etc - or better still, suggest a specific clip (provide a link for download) to make sure we are all talking about the same problem and cause and reducing the possible variables.
Pete
(PS - my first post and just want to pass on my respects to the regulars here. I've only been reading for the last week or so and it's a steep learning curve for an Android "noob" but I'm already impressed by the depth of knowledge here.)
pengipete said:
Same "problem" here. I've tried recoding various video clips - different formats, bit-rates etc - but there's always that slight lack of synch. It's most obvious with plosive sounds - a brief clip from Iron Man 2 where Stark bangs his fists onto a desktop has a very noticable delay between the action and the sound.
I'm on
PDA: I5800XXJPU
PHONE: I5800XXJP4
CSC: I5800XXKPO
...but I tried with Kyrillo's O/C and there was no difference. Tried with basic video app and a couple of third party players - exactly the same "delay".
I can't see it making any difference but I'll be getting a new, faster SDHC card this week - if that makes any difference, I'll let you know.
I suspect it's a codec problem as the amount of delay varies - increasing in "busy" scenes. There are a few more things to try such as encoding with variable bit-rates. If I do find an optimum encoding, I'll post back. Meanwhile, perhaps people could post full details of the videos they've tried - video format and resolution, bit-rates for vid and audio etc - or better still, suggest a specific clip (provide a link for download) to make sure we are all talking about the same problem and cause and reducing the possible variables.
Pete
(PS - my first post and just want to pass on my respects to the regulars here. I've only been reading for the last week or so and it's a steep learning curve for an Android "noob" but I'm already impressed by the depth of knowledge here.)
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Yes, give us a feedback after using new sdhc card, but be careful with choosing coz I bought class 10 and speeds on pc are 17/20 and on G3 are only 4/4. Maybe class 6 from quality manufacturer would be better choice.
I also notice this about busy scenes.
I would like to avoid encoding but if that is the only solution would use it but not on a daily base.
Awaiting your replay as everyone else here.
kyrillos might have tried to fix this..
Hey guys i noticed this problem right on day 1 when i got the phone and this was a huge disappointment..i mean how can a mid-budget android phone have this sort of a problem(even the chepest nokia multimedia phone doesnt have this bug)
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I think kyrillos might have tried to fix this in his Rom..here is the change log:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123
Kyrillos' rom v5.1 (Based on XXJPM) [19/05/11]
Completely reworked/remade the whole rom.
Fixed bug with sync
Fugumod 2.4 beta2 standard kernel.
Keyboard bug fixed
Voodoo Sound v8
Added Voodoo Control [1.0.6.1]
Removed Battery Calibration [Install from market]
1% battery mod
Updated CWM Recovery [v0.30, partition sdcard to ext4 directly from recovery]
data=ext4, cache/system=ext2
Updated Honeycomb Icons
Fixed video player lags
v5.1 is non oc by default so if you want overclock flash fugumod v2.4 alpha5
I think he might be referring to the same bug by "video player lags"...well i dont have the time to try out the rom and see if its fixed(exams!!)...so can anyone try this and let us know how it works please??
If this doesnt work, i think we should let our devs know about this ASAP
You gave change log from v5.1; I didn't tried that one but I tried 8.0-9.0
And if he fixed it in earlier version it is probably also included in later versions.
But I can confirm that in 8-9 the problem still exist, so once again dead end.
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I think he might be referring to the same bug by "video player lags"...well i dont have the time to try out the rom and see if its fixed(exams!!)...so can anyone try this and let us know how it works please??
If this doesnt work, i think we should let our devs know about this ASAP
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I used Kyrillos v5.1 and yes, I also thought that it meant the sound problem, but found out it refers to the occasional lagging of the video/image, not the sound. And no, the delay problem was there in it, and exists still, like JanerNevis said. I haven't updated to v9.0 yet and probably won't till friday evening as I have a busy week.
You may try another rom for egsample Vivek's or DutchMods.
kesc said:
You may try another rom for egsample Vivek's or DutchMods.
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Do you have information that this problem is fixed in that ROMs?
Or did you tried them and saw by yourself?
I dont have this problem mayb its ur hardware?
bscraze said:
I dont have this problem mayb its ur hardware?
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Are you kesc? To whom are you replaying?
Yes. maybe it's a hardware problem, but then why doesn't all the users experiencing the same?
is the problem still with a newer version of ROM or another more stable ROM.
do you use voodoo?
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is the problem still with a newer version of ROM or another more stable ROM.
do you use voodoo?
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In my case the problem was on stock Eclair and Froyo and on Kyrillos 8-9, Kyorarom 0.3-04
Yes I use voodoo.
Had a dig around and perceived wisdom says it's a hardware problem. Experience says that whenever you see a "definitive" answer on any IT related topic - take it with a pinch of salt. It's in the nature of the internet that one "I know..." post or bog can easily become gospel and it doesn't take long before everyone "knows" it's true - but they never actually check or verify. In truth, they're all quoting something that someone else wrote.
Anyway - spent a couple of hours mucking about with a few different video converters and there does seem to be a partial solution. Obviously, re-encoding is not ideal but it may help for people transferring their own films and DVDs etc.
The basics - encode the video as MP4 - the resolution doesn't appear to matter (as long as it's not too large - which would be a waste anyway on the i5800's screen). I've tried from 15 to 30 fps and it made no difference - 24 or 25 gives a perfectly smooth picture. The main thing is to encode the audio as mp3 - not AAC. In the standard video player app, set the screen to show the full vid at the correct aspect ratio (the small square gadget at the top-right of the screen should look like it has a diagonal line through it rather than a dot in the middle). I haven't tried any other video players with these settings yet - when I do, I'll see if the various "zoom" settings makes a difference.
Funny thing is, this works - but not every time even with the same video. Start the vid - if it is out of sync, rewind the vid by dragging the progress bar. Bizarrely, that seems to "fix" the problem - or at least reduce the "lag" to a minimal amount.
New SD card should be here tomorrow but I'm doubting it will do anything to help - I'd have thought that the system would have a buffer rather than literally trying to decode on the fly. I'm also not convinced that the relatively slow CPU is the problem - in practice, it should be plenty capable of handling this plus decoding audio is a doddle - if it was down to processor speeds, I'd expect the video to lurch as it tries to keep up with the audio rather than the soundtrack being delayed on an otherwise smoothly running video.
I don't know how this operating system works but if this was a PC or Amiga, I'd be looking at the relative prorities of the audio and video processes to see if the video was hogging the CPU. Maybe one of the techies here can advise on that.
Off topic but - my sim card went kapput today O2 are sending me a replacement so I should be fine in a couple of days. Annoying cos I fancied trying Kyrillo's ROM V9 but I don't want to do that until I know for sure that it's the sim rather than a problem with the phone.
Hello, I tested the latest update of the rom dev-null 2.3.7 schiznik created, was to say that if it still fails the video camera, the time course of the video goes up, but the camera freezes, although move the phone, is not moving, and just giving fc.
Do not put it in the appropriate topic and privileges I have not yet xD
Regards, and look forward you can fix the failures of this wonderful rom
I confirm that the video camera funciona.Solo not yet a problem in llamada.Si screen when you're in the call screen to a number and want to activate the keyboard, do not see the last line of teclado.No know what I mean well I'm sorry.
Otherwise perfectly.
Greetings.
I know about the problems with the video recording.
Still looking into it, time & other commitments permitting
schiznik said:
I know about the problems with the video recording.
Still looking into it, time & other commitments permitting
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At first,
Thanks schiznnik for this oxygen. The newest release (09.11.2011) has also the recording Error:
I start cam, choose camcorder (i sweep the circle to the right),
push the red Rec. button, and then picture stops,
the time runs on the top left side, i try to stop the video recording
and bang a ´Sorry message appears`.
Thanks for the Rom and hoping that you correct the little mistakes.
I use it every day with a magnificent result, stable and fast.
A greeting.
I installed via CWM the Beats Audio Port for Gingerbread (thread which has now been locked for some reason) and as I have not posted before I can only post here.
I was wondering if there is any way to uninstall the Beats Audio update because now I am not able to view HD videos on the YouTube app without lag and stuttering (Doesn't happen when viewing as a webpage through Opera)
I am not sure if the Beats update is the culprit as I did also, before updating, mess around with activating the various StageFright options via BladeBuddy (which now, in reality makes no difference whether I turn them on or off)
Aside from the issue with the YouTube app I have noticed no other issues, except perhaps Opera slowing down & becoming unresponsive massively when I have a few windows open from the BBC news site when I am watching 1 videoed news report, but this might just be a new problem with Opera itself as I never had this before I installed the new version.
I already had thought I would need to wipe and install a (Darky's) ROM again which I won't bother doing until there is an ICS ROM available but any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I think the beats port are just some libraries. Open the .zip of the hack and look which files it adds. Then delete the files with a root explorer on your device. This should be enough when the hack doesn't delete any files. If it does, you should reflash your rom.
Hi everyone,
I've searched this forum for a while to find out a way to get real toggle on the notification bar.
I mean, when using froyo, I had no problem with apps like elixir or widgetsoid (each toggle can be clicked and the action was performed) but since I've upgraded to 2.3.4, those apps are buggy and it seems that each bar is considered as only one button and brings a other popup to chose which button to toggle...
It seems that it is like this in 2.3.4, but I've found this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1559498
But works only with Xperia... (I've replace my systemUI.apk with theirs but it does not work at all)
Does anyone know how to get a statusbar toggle that works fine..
I heard about MIUI but I am really not sure to move to alternate ROM (because of still missing functionalities)
Regards
Manitooo
I don't know any toggles that work with official 2.3, but you should try different custom ROMs. After the first time I used a custom ROM, I've never used a official one, they're usually much lighter, have better duration of the battery, and CM7/MIUI are very stable (I've never experienced a crash with MIUI on my M2, and I'm using it for 3~4 months).
If you don't like them, you can always come back to official 2.3 (or 2.2, if you feel it was better because of the toggles).
Thanks for your answer.
I have a friend (with an Xperia) that had the same problem nd which has been solved by the thread I posted above...
For the MIUI CM7, I clearly don't understand perfectly what is it CM vs MIUI are they competitor / alternative / complementory.....
and what are functional
what should I do to use MIUI / CM7 (I've read about nandroid, how to backup, what to backup and what are the things that I will lost..; HW acc, and so on)..
regards
Manitooo
In the Android Developent area of the forum there are a lot of good tutorials (usually in the thread of the rom) that explain how to change ROMs / downgrade the kernel (necessary for MIUI + tezet's CM7). Neither MIUI nor CM7 have the alt lock functionality on the keyboard (not much of a big deal, you can press alt twice and it's the same) and the 720p recording. If the absence of 720p recording is a big problem for you, you can always try MS2Ginger or Argen2Stone ROMs, they allow recording in 720p.
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In the Android Developent area of the forum there are a lot of good tutorials (usually in the thread of the rom) that explain how to change ROMs / downgrade the kernel (necessary for MIUI + tezet's CM7). Neither MIUI nor CM7 have the alt lock functionality on the keyboard (not much of a big deal, you can press alt twice and it's the same) and the 720p recording. If the absence of 720p recording is a big problem for you, you can always try MS2Ginger or Argen2Stone ROMs, they allow recording in 720p.
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I found the time to upgrade the ROM of my Milstone2 with a CM9... (the last version seems perfect)... and It is clearly a new phone..; more reactive and lower consumption.
really impress by the works made for the cyanogen mod !
some tweaks to do , some bugs here and there but clearly the best mod ever..
For the recording in 720p, no problem since the last july version of CM9
Hello.
I have had several problems with my LG Optimus L3 ( e400g ) .
What I have noticed is that after a while of playing videos in the Youtube application (about 30 or 40 minutes) This freezes and I have to close it from the administrator of native applications.
After that I open the application and load everything correctly, but when you play the video you see the black screen and only plays the audio.
This also happens when trying to play it from the native browser or dolphin browser or any other application on Youtube substitution , only the audio is heard , try to find a solution to this and read it in comments of another user, record a video that the image was fixed only when read by the phone , took the test and if it does, restart it and run it all again , but in other occasions had happened to me on Stock ROMS .
Now I have a rom based Latte v2, and I keep passing the same.
It is quite annoying and it can not be. Do not know if something would serve a logcat , but just leave it.
Thanks!
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Hello.
I have had several problems with my LG Optimus L3 ( e400g ) .
What I have noticed is that after a while of playing videos in the Youtube application (about 30 or 40 minutes) This freezes and I have to close it from the administrator of native applications.
After that I open the application and load everything correctly, but when you play the video you see the black screen and only plays the audio.
This also happens when trying to play it from the native browser or dolphin browser or any other application on Youtube substitution , only the audio is heard , try to find a solution to this and read it in comments of another user, record a video that the image was fixed only when read by the phone , took the test and if it does, restart it and run it all again , but in other occasions had happened to me on Stock ROMS .
Now I have a rom based Latte v2, and I keep passing the same.
It is quite annoying and it can not be. Do not know if something would serve a logcat , but just leave it.
Thanks!
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Hi! Did you try to install flash player?
For 2.x to 4.3 ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/themes-apps/adobe-flash-player-11-1-115-81-final-t2042464
I try to see if it works or is the same way.
Thank you.
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I'm sure the problem is the application of Youtube.
I have extracted from an older application (4.2.16) and this version works perfectly me, besides that is superior in all aspects to the current versions.
Thanks for the help and if you like some moderator can close the topic. :laugh: