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(request(?)) email program for port 443

hi
my provider (tmobile) blocks any port except 443 and 80 so i cant use email service. but i'd love a email program or a guide that connects over port 443. i didn't find any solution to this yet, but i think it's possible, because there are servics like palringo which also allow to connect via port 443. i WOULD set up a server if i could, but i have problems with my router. it doesn't fully support port forwarding, because other clients cant access ssl sites anymore then.
so i hope theres anyone out there who has a solution

Have your email forwarded to another address.

hi
i dont understand what you mean with fotwarding... you mean the port? or how to do?

Try Flexmail, on account settings You can configure incoming and outgoing ports
http://www.pocketinformant.com/products_info.php?p_id=mail

You can add the port number after the smtp server address, such as mail.mydomain.com:443. However I doubt that you have your own SMTP server (I could be wrong though ... ) so I don't think you'll be able to change the server's outbound SMTP address.
I myself have to use a service from NO-IP.COM to do port redirecting so I can use my Exchange 2003 server because my ISP (Bellsouth) blocks both incoming and outgoing port 25, which is one real PIA! (I'm not going to upgrade from residential to commercial service with Bellsouth, no way Jose!)
Without more info, can't help you.

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You can add the port number after the smtp server address, such as mail.mydomain.com:443. However I doubt that you have your own SMTP server (I could be wrong though ... ) so I don't think you'll be able to change the server's outbound SMTP address.
I myself have to use a service from NO-IP.COM to do port redirecting so I can use my Exchange 2003 server because my ISP (Bellsouth) blocks both incoming and outgoing port 25, which is one real PIA! (I'm not going to upgrade from residential to commercial service with Bellsouth, no way Jose!)
Without more info, can't help you.
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yep its right. i can´t set up a server here/don´t have one (atm maybe i´ll set up one) but i found a better solution. (well i think it is) i just made an account at www.emoze.com, it allows you to make a free push mail account, and it works over port 443, too. it doesn´t matter what port you set in email server settings, it just works! then i forwarded my mail accounts to a gmail account (because the mailserver im using is crappy at pop3/imap access) and now everything works beatifully
i get the mails after 3 secs after sending

New Hero can't send mail. Port 25 blocked.

I just got a HTC Hero two days ago from T-Mobile (in the Netherlands). But no matter what I try, I can't get the thing to send email. It took me a while to figure out why: either the phone or the network is blocking traffic over port 25.
This is how I tested it:
I wrote a small program that simply listens to a specific port. It would display whenever a remote host connects to the port and it would also display anything the remote is sending. I had the program listen to port 25 and setup another HTC (a Touch) to use my computer's IP address as outgoing (SMTP) mail server. Whenever I tried to send mail from the HTC Touch, the program would show a remote host was trying to connect to port 25. I could change the outgoing port to whatever I wanted and it would show in the program.
Not with the Hero. No connection attempt was displayed when the HTC Hero was set to connect to port 25 on my computer. If I set it to anything else, it would display. So the only conclusion can be that either the Hero blocks port 25, or the network.
Anyone else experience this problem? And is there a way to correct this?

Did a few more test and found out that if I connect through WiFi to the internet through my router, I am able to send mail. Disconnect from WiFi and connect through GPRS/HSDPA and I can't send email. So port 25 is blocked by the network...

having a problem with emails as well.
phone sends emails out but they dont arrive.
when contacting my service provider ("Tele2" in Estonia) they told me that network software "spam assassin" categorize my phone as spammer. so no emails from my phone through their smtp server is allowed...
At the moment only solution is to use alternative smtp provider.
I tried with gmail smtp and managed to send mails out. this is some kind of temporary solution but not final... I would still really want to know what causes this problem, as gmail changes "from" address to gmail account address and I want to use my default address.

What email server are you using? I had to change the standard setting to send out mail by hotmail UK

Right, this is a problem related to SMTP server configuration in general. Since SMTP is not typically authenticated, most ISPs (landline or wireless) won't let you send outgoing email through their servers if you are not connected directly to their network. Some also block any outgoing port 25. For example, if you normally use your DSL providers e-mail servers for POP/IMAP and SMTP and you go to your friends house who uses a different ISP, you'll be able to configure his e-mail client to retrieve your POP/IMAP but not send via you ISP SMTP. In that case you would have to send using his ISP SMTP server. This is typically done for spam prevention. Otherwise, anyone anywhere in the world could just send junk email using any ISP SMTP server as the start point.
For your situation, I think you are trying to use your ISP's SMTP server while connected to the mobile network. For the reasons above, it typically won't work. It works from your Wifi because you are then connected to the ISP network. There are a couple of solutions:
1) Set the outgoing SMTP server to the one provided by your mobile operator. No matter where you go in the world, you will send email through the mobile operator SMTP server which will be fine. The only problem is, depending on how you have everything set up, the emails won't show up in your "sent" items on your normal email.
2) Use Gmail, and maybe others. Google use authenticated SMTP that requires a username and password. Therefore, they allow you send through their SMTP servers from anywhere. Ohh, and it does not use port 25.
Hope that helps.

Just a shot in the dark here - do you have the handcent application (sms app) installed? When I installed this app I got exactly the same problem. Stopped my email going out. Removed handcent and all was ok again.
Zippy1970 said:
I just got a HTC Hero two days ago from T-Mobile (in the Netherlands). But no matter what I try, I can't get the thing to send email. It took me a while to figure out why: either the phone or the network is blocking traffic over port 25.
This is how I tested it:
I wrote a small program that simply listens to a specific port. It would display whenever a remote host connects to the port and it would also display anything the remote is sending. I had the program listen to port 25 and setup another HTC (a Touch) to use my computer's IP address as outgoing (SMTP) mail server. Whenever I tried to send mail from the HTC Touch, the program would show a remote host was trying to connect to port 25. I could change the outgoing port to whatever I wanted and it would show in the program.
Not with the Hero. No connection attempt was displayed when the HTC Hero was set to connect to port 25 on my computer. If I set it to anything else, it would display. So the only conclusion can be that either the Hero blocks port 25, or the network.
Anyone else experience this problem? And is there a way to correct this?
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Zippy1970 said:
I just got a HTC Hero two days ago from T-Mobile (in the Netherlands). But no matter what I try, I can't get the thing to send email. It took me a while to figure out why: either the phone or the network is blocking traffic over port 25.
Anyone else experience this problem? And is there a way to correct this?
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First note that this is not a problem with Android or HTC Hero.
The problem is that many broadband providers have their servers for outbound email set up to allow clients to connect without authentication from addresses in their own network. Word-wide open access to mail forwarding OTOH is a big no-no and would soon lead to the servers being blocked by other network operators. A client that normally connects over broadband will thus get access denied when it is trying over 3G or GPRS as the phone then appear to your broadband-provider as being connected to an "unknown" network.
There are several solutions:
1. Use a provider for mail that is independent from the one providing connectivity. Such providers offer many ways in which authorised users can send and receive their email. You've got a wide selection of free providers such as gmail and hotmail, as well as paid services from places like imap4all.com and fastmail.fm. This also gives you the flexibility of being able to change bandwith/connectivity suppliers as often as you like without having to change your email-address.
2. Check with your broadband-provider if they provide authenticated global access to their SMTP-servers, and if so what ports/protocols they support. Any half-decent provider will have such alternatives available. Encryption is strongly recommended for the email-setup (both send and receive) and the Hero support SMTP over TLS or SSL for mail delivery, the port can also be configured (to match a non-std setup if required by the server). With a decent provider it will probably be enough to enable TLS (or SSL) for the SMTP connection and configure a username and password, so you might want to try that first.

There's a little more to this; it indeed is largely T-mobile's fault. I want to connect to my own (authenticated and using TLS, so not an open relay!) SMTP server and it failed to connect consistently. I then tried to telnet the SMTP server and found the request being intercepted by a host called 'filter2-tmobile.zx.nl'. Ridiculous.
Strange thing: same SIM-card, same phone number, same everything, but using a HTC TyTN II/Kaiser: no problem whatsoever. So it's definitely partially HTC Hero's/G2 Touch's 'feature' as well.
I'm calling them tomorrow to find out more.

Terranca said:
There's a little more to this; it indeed is largely T-mobile's fault. I want to connect to my own (authenticated and using TLS, so not an open relay!) SMTP server and it failed to connect consistently. I then tried to telnet the SMTP server and found the request being intercepted by a host called 'filter2-tmobile.zx.nl'. Ridiculous.
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Sounds like your provider using outbound filters. That's also fairly common for port 25. Have you tried with SSL, which by default use port 465. That is usually combined with authentication so it is not so common to filter port 465.
I forgot an important detail in my previous post. Using anything over port 25 for outbound email is generally nothing but trouble. Always use SSMTP (port 465) instead of plain SMTP over port 25 if possible.
Email-providers such as fastmail.fm and imap4all.com provide SNMP-services on a number of nonstandard ports to get around these provider filters. Some even put proxies in front of their SMTP-servers that enable connection through any port. When combined with SSL that makes it virtually impossible for other providers to filter.

T-Mobile (my mobile provider) is blocking anything over port 25. I've tried their own SMTP server (smtp.gprs.t-mobile.nl) and like I said, I wrote an application myself that listens to traffic over port 25. Not even a connection request arrived.
I solved my problem by setting up my own mailserver to also accept incoming connections over port 587 while forcing authentication and TLS.
But it's pretty stupid that T-Mobile sold me this phone (including a mobile internet subscription) while not even allowing me to send emails over the default port and their own mailserver.

I have had the same problem, i have an ntlworld email account, which does not let you use their smtp server unless connected to their network. So to get round this i have used gmails smtp server on the hero, its the only way it lets me send mail.

Have you tried authenticating and using port 26? I do this on T-Mobile NL, however I use the SMTP sevrer of my own domain e-mail account (hosted).

How to configure 2 different outbound SMTP server for outbound sending of email?

When configuring a pop email server, everyone needs 2 outbound SMTP addresses:
1 for sending email through standard data connection (for instance smtp.orange.fr)
and another one for sending when connected to the home network WIFI (for instance smtp.free.fr).
On the iPhone, you can configure several outbound SMTP servers on email accounts. So you can send email no matter how you are connected to the internet.
But how do you do that on the HD2? Currently you can use only one or the other.
Thanks

U can use only one SMTP server for email account

Petulinek said:
U can use only one SMTP server for email account
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Yet another area iPhone demonstrates superiority

iPhone? Stupid unusable toy for children? Ha ha

I'm using active sync, so I'm not sure about this, but you could use Gmail SMTP for sending out e-mail... Need a google account tho, as google smtp requires authentication. I'm not sure about configuration of an alternate reply-to address, which you'll probably want...
Or ofcourse, you can consider this a solution as well.
Grtz
Lukas

Petulinek said:
iPhone? Stupid unusable toy for children? Ha ha
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A pretty good toy it is: it recognizes whether you are in Wifi or in 3G data mode and uses the correct SMTP send server, which the HD2 is incapable of doing.
So on this point, which one is the toy, and which one is a real tool?

ahh the idiot phone for people brainwashed by apple

the-uki said:
A pretty good toy it is: it recognizes whether you are in Wifi or in 3G data mode and uses the correct SMTP send server, which the HD2 is incapable of doing.
So on this point, which one is the toy, and which one is a real tool?
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that's the point - I don't have or like Apple but I love their 'sense for ergonomy'. Simple things that make the usage easier. You can't say this about any Microsoft product.
Anyway - I thought it could be done as I did it with Outlook Express (which suffers the same problem) - to have 2 accounts with same settings and different smtp servers. But after testing I found out Mobile Outlook doesn't allow you to set 2 accounts with same email address and another problem is the accounts have separated folder structure (unlike in OE).
So the only solution IMHO is to have SMTP server, which will allow you to send email from any network (after authentication) as Lukasss said (don't know if gmail checks the sender address but I'd prefer to have the sender address set instead of using reply-to). Are both your smtp servers dependant on network you are on or are you able to use authentication?

www.authsmtp.com offers a great smtp solution for this, I already use their services for about 1,5 year and as far as I know it works great for all providers even if they try to block .... Prices start at 21 euro yearly ( no I don't own shares .. ;-)

SMTP - is it just me?

hi
i have a touch hd on the three network. on this connection i can send and receive emails but i MUST use the three SMTP setting or I cannot send emails.
unfortunately when I'm at home on WIFI (tiscali) i have to use the tiscali SMTP or cannot send emails.
is there a way to fix this so that i do not have to keep changing the SMTP settings depending on which connection i am using?
i presume both Three and Tiscali require users to use their own SMTP servers whilst using their facilities. Is this not a bit daft on a MOBILE device?
cheers
don

SMTP care not if you're connecting from a mobile device or not, it's just a protocol.
SMTP servers are usually restricted by connecting IP address, generally to CIDR blocks owned by the provider of the SMTP service. This is done to prevent the server being an "open relay" and therefore being used by spammers to send out **** loads of junk email.
You might be able to find an email provider that uses TLS/SSL authentication in which case they *MAY* allow access from anywhere.
Presumably the 3 and tiscali email addresses are different so you'd just have the two accounts set up on the phone anyway? I don't really use outlook on my HD so I'm not sure I totally understand your problem.

donster22 said:
hi
i have a touch hd on the three network. on this connection i can send and receive emails but i MUST use the three SMTP setting or I cannot send emails.
unfortunately when I'm at home on WIFI (tiscali) i have to use the tiscali SMTP or cannot send emails.
is there a way to fix this so that i do not have to keep changing the SMTP settings depending on which connection i am using?
i presume both Three and Tiscali require users to use their own SMTP servers whilst using their facilities. Is this not a bit daft on a MOBILE device?
cheers
don
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I'm using smtp servers from www.gmx.com and www.gmail.com, both with excelent imap support.
With these smtp servers, you can send mail regardless of what connection you have.
Both are excelent mail providers with pop collectors.
You can also forward your mail to these accounts.

Email Problem: Cannot Get Outgoing SMTP To Work

Hey All,
I'm having a pretty frustrating experience setting up an email client to work with my mailhost.
I can connect to my imap host for the business of incoming email, but I cannot get either the stock android email app, or the current version of k9, to connect to the outgoing smtp server using all of the available authentication/ssl options/port combinations.
Fwiw, I'm running the current, stock JB ROM, rooted. Also, fwiw, these smtp settings also do not work on my JB-based Asus t300, but work just fine on my stock, ICS, HTC Rezound.
Is this a known problem with JB ROMs? Is there a known work around?
Many thanks!
John

jrredho said:
Hey All,
I'm having a pretty frustrating experience setting up an email client to work with my mailhost.
I can connect to my imap host for the business of incoming email, but I cannot get either the stock android email app, or the current version of k9, to connect to the outgoing smtp server using all of the available authentication/ssl options/port combinations.
Fwiw, I'm running the current, stock JB ROM, rooted. Also, fwiw, these smtp settings also do not work on my JB-based Asus t300, but work just fine on my stock, ICS, HTC Rezound.
Is this a known problem with JB ROMs? Is there a known work around?
Many thanks!
John
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SMTP works fine for me both on my 100% stock Nexus 7 and on my CM 10.1 Nexus 10. I use it to connect to my school's SMTP email (they only use their email for all school/official/professor-student communications ). I don't have any issues.
When I first set up my SMTP connection though, I had to mess around with the certificates as they didn't match what the FAQ and How-To guides the school told me. For example, they told me to use SSL and accept all certificates for incoming, but when I do that my client won't sync correctly so I have to select SSL (without accepting all certificates). Give that a shot?
Also, no offense but even I've made this mistake many times , double check your host names, I always misplace the periods and which is outgoing host and incoming hosts.
Good luck! :highfive:
Edit: added more info.

Thanks so much for your suggestions for me on my little problem. It caused me to revisit it with a more global outlook.
What I learned? The problem had nothing to do with the Email apps, or the version of Android. It had to do with the fact that I was trying to connect via my VPN hosts. My two JB devices are WiFi only, and I always use the VPN app when I'm on them. Almost never from my phone.
Now all I have to do now is figure out the reason my isp's mail host is blocking my SMTP connections from my VPN hosts and I'll be set...
Thanks again!
John

jrredho said:
Now all I have to do now is figure out the reason my isp's mail host is blocking my SMTP connections from my VPN hosts and I'll be set...
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I thought I'd touch base to say that this problem has now been 100% solved.
It actually had nothing to do with my ISP. My VPN provider blocks outgoing SMTP connections by default. I'm in the process of getting my ISP's SMTP host whitelisted by the VPN provider.
Thanks to everyone who looked at my question, and to the person who offered up his thoughts!
cheers,
john

Heh interesting turn of events. Glad it worked out!