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Do not apply PART2 OTA 2.1 update - If you need root.

I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg

May I ask why HEOR upgraded to official 2.1 OTA couldn't be rooted??
It is temporary unable or permanently??

Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?

@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.

good to know...thanks for hte info!

duck0 said:
Can you substantiate this claim? Proof that the instantroot method (using the package installer's privileges) does not work on 2.1 for instance?
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The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero

Wezternator said:
@iholleh
It's not possible to root at the moment, it could be quite a while before someone figures out how to root it if its already on a device, however if its looked at enough I'm sure they will do it. when its officially released it will be rooted very quickly to be flashed as a zip.
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Thx bro! I just upgraded to 2.1 OTA and trying to downgrade to 1.5, failed however...
Wait for good news

I think we need to make clear. What to do if.
I installed the first package (First OTA, PART 1, Youtube App update)?
Like I heard in develop, if I installed part 1 update, this stupid youtube update, i need downgrade.
I don't really understand why, and how to do that. I think many of noobs like me are interested, what to do now.
I have promted by my phone that 2.1 update is realeased, and I did not downlnoad it, because I would like to have root, to install in a future Android 2.2, etc.
If so, and i have Firmware build number 2.73.405.93, or 2.73.405.94, or 2.73.405.95. What should I do?
Please someone, write step by step action guide.
(Downgrade, root, install rooted 2.1?) If so, how exactly?
I also understand that, there is 100000000000 of guides out there, but IMHO we need new one for a while.
Situation with "not installed" OTA part 1 is little bit easier? Normal ROOT, and install for coocked, and rooted official 2.1?

polakscot said:
The problem is you can't say one way or the other.. so if root is important to you then you are better off waiting.
Sent from my HTC Hero
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I guess so, but how likely is it that the hero's 2.1 firmware is different in this regard from anything else? A quick google confirmed that the InstantRoot method works on nexus one and motorola droid.
Edit: But a little longer google had me wondering if it does work on 2.1 again. Sorry, I should check more carefully. If anyone has tried it do step up.

Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

shadow_fi said:
Check out dev. section. Looks like there is way to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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Correct, just run the RUU

can confirm, this works ...

What if I want to root it up to 2.2 (Froyo) that would be fine because it is like you are upgrading to newer firmware?

Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred

frederikk said:
Hi i just have a stupid question :
i'm quite lost with all the stuffs about the 2.1 update :
i have a 1.5 stock rooted rom on my hero.
i would like to update to 2.1 but keep the root thing.
and i want not to wipe my phone
So what i undestand is :
- if i update : i'm not root anymore and won't be able to do it with the 2.1
- if i want to be 2.1+root i have to use a full rom (rooted) to have both but i have to wipe my phone.
Is that right ?
Is there or will it be a way to have an update (not wiping phone), in 2.1, and with root maintained from my 1.5 ??
Thanx for help.. i don't what to do with this ota update...
Ciao
Fred
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No... You are going to have to root.
But you can just back-up with something like MyBackUp-Pro

Ok but i silo bave to root what? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

andrewb84uk said:
Correct, just run the RUU
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what do you meen visit dev section?what is dev section?thanks.

frederikk said:
Ok but i will bave to root what ? The 2.1 updated phone? But i understood or is not possible yet ? For the backup dors à android one is ok?
Thanx
Ciao
Fred
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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I think i don't understand.
I'm with 1.5 rooted phone. If i update, i will be with a 2.1 phone non rooted. But is it possible to root the 2.1 ? I already have the boot menu with ramon ra recovery. So the update won't touch it ?
But in fact i change the date to june 2011 on my phone yesterday.. and i have no update notification
Ciao
Fred

shadow_fi said:
I would like to remind ppl, because many of you didn't think about...
If you will apply, 2.1 OTA update, on your 1.5, you will LOOSE ability to root. Don't be fools, and wait until you get "official" rooted 2.1, then flash it by yourself.
Please someone make it more clear if possible...
...But 2.1 official cannot be rooted, after update.
So turn off your Update check on your phone, and wait until there will be 2.1 rooted.
P.S
Looks like there is possibility to downgrade from OTA 2.1!! Omg
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I might be out of subject and truely I know nothing about rooting but I know by fact that downgrading from official 2.1 to official 1.5 took about 15 minutes to proceed on my unlocked Hero today..

[Q] root on froyo 3.15.405.3

Hi guys,
as you know, today htc released ota froyo update for unbranded legend.
There are two updates available: the first one is from 2.03.405.3 to 2.05.405.2, and the second one is from 2.05.405.2 to 3.15.405.3.
The question is: once you updated to 3.15.405.3 version is it still possible to root?
Thanks

No.
Sent from my PC running Linux

And so... I will whait!
BlaY0, thanks for reply!

No sweat m8...

also hboot version changed from 1 to 1.01
Sent from my Legend

I would have the original Legend Froyo 3.15.405.3 ROM only with root. NO customization (like BlaY0) or other... only and simply the original 2.2 rooted.
It's possible?

so theres actually no way to root a device thats updated to froyo? not even a way to roll back to 2.1 or something?
i got froyo with vodafone branding

fede91it said:
I would have the original Legend Froyo 3.15.405.3 ROM only with root. NO customization (like BlaY0) or other... only and simply the original 2.2 rooted.
It's possible?
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+1, only need this!
original 2.2 rooted, but if can´t possible.. i use 2.2 vodafone rooted

I can make you a patch, that would remove all my additions...
Sent from my HTC Legend

BlaY0 said:
I can make you a patch, that would remove all my additions...
Sent from my HTC Legend
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I would be been grateful if you do it.Thanks for your job, but I like the original with only superuser.
PD. Sorry for my english

BlaY0 said:
I can make you a patch, that would remove all my additions...
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Will you be so kind to make a vanilla froyo zip (without root and others optimizations) for use with dsixda's kitchen? Because i can use that kitchen, but i still can't create vanilla froyo rom for it from old RUU and that damn OTA's.
(You know, people are different, so they're want different customs, not the only devs think what will be best).

what about unrevoked? it seems to be the method of choice for rooting the Desire?

ebaak said:
what about unrevoked? it seems to be the method of choice for rooting the Desire?
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unrevoked doesn't work on Legend, the crew does not have a Legend phone to work on.

BlaY0 said:
I can make you a patch, that would remove all my additions...
Sent from my HTC Legend
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I think will be awesome, the original htc update (not vodafone because not include all languages, etc) only with root permissions. No kernel no h-boots etc, it's possible?
Or, how we can do it (making hands directly into the code)?
Very thank you.

Hi,
Is there any chance to have at least soft root for Froyo?
Universal Androot doesn't work anymore.
Thanks.

TiceRex said:
Hi,
Is there any chance to have at least soft root for Froyo?
Universal Androot doesn't work anymore.
Thanks.
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I am using VISIONary from modaco. provides softroot

ebaak said:
I am using VISIONary from modaco. provides softroot
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Yeah can confirm this too.
Swyped from my HTC Legend

With VISIONary can I use ROM Manager to restore a backup previously performed?
Nobody want finally root this official froyo rom, it's incredible

Thank you all, I didn't know about this app. It works.
HTC Legend/XDA App

Hi all! I've tried the Visionary+ app by modaco on my HTC Legend Official Froyo, but the permroot doesn't work, only temproot works... Anyone has my same problem?

HTC wildfire update after root

Hi All,
I have done some reading but I'm still unsure about this.
I have a HTC wildfire with 2.1 update1 firmware, still Vodafone branded. I rooted it some time ago but in all honestly have not seen any benefit bar being able to install a wireless hotspot app that I couldn't get to work.
I would like to update to the 2.2 version but I'm aware I cannot use a OTA update. What's the best way to go about installing 2.2 or is there a better cook out there that improves speed?
Thanks for any advice offered and sorry its such a silly question

check out Warriorvibhu's SUnAaBh v1.1
it is a very stable Froyo 2.2.1 build with Sense UI

Is there any way to unroot (change back to HTC default bootloader) and upgrade the offical update HTC 2.2?

darkf said:
Is there any way to unroot (change back to HTC default bootloader) and upgrade the offical update HTC 2.2?
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not good idea. more than half of mine applications which required root now not working on my wildfire. That's why i'm waiting Hboot to be cracked by unrevoked. If i knew that i better use PuzzleRom custom 2.2.1 with root.

[Q] unrEVOked 3 root

Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?

* They will release it when they want to. We have no option or control over them. If they want to try, it is their wish, if they don't want to try, again it is their wish. Live with it.
* If you are already on 2.2.1, there's no point disabling search for updates because it is extremely unlikely there will be any.
*Sigh*, why cant you read already existing threads before creating another one? Is it too hard?

omfg! seems like you have disabled search function for this forum, this topic gets posted at least once a day

jayvaidya96 said:
Does anyone know when unrEVOked will be able to find a root for the Wildfire on 2.2.1? I hope they find it soon. From how much they've been delaying it seems like they just don't want to even try. Should I disable the Search online for updates feature so my phone stops updating?
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just re rooted my wildfire on froyo

chubby65 said:
just re rooted my wildfire on froyo
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How did you do this ?

I was told that if we make a new thread everyday about it they will update it!!

bigbossa said:
How did you do this ?
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when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho

chubby65 said:
when i got the phone it was on 2.1 but did'nt want to wait for froyo so rooted using unrevoked and installed the wildpuzzle rom 2.2.1 then tried the stock rom thought i screwed up when i read the forums and discovered root was not availiable for froyo first i checked hboot version on my phone discovered that it was 0.80.0003 then i installed the wildpuzzle rom back onto the sd card rebooted phone in recovery mode and installed rom from sd card rebooted and waited for it to restart now have root back on wildfire not sure if it will work on the new hboot tho
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WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.

3xeno said:
WildPuzzle 2.2.1 (Or rather, ANY custom ROM), removes the updated HBOOT. So, obviously, 2.2.1 will be rootable in such cases.
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so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?

chubby65 said:
so using a custom rom over the top of a stock 2.2.1 as i did makes the wildfire rootable again?
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No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.

3xeno said:
No. You will not be able to use a Custom ROM over Stock 2.2.1 because installing a Custom ROM requires root.
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dont know how i managed it but thats what i've done

If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.

3xeno said:
If I understood what you said, then I dont think you have installed the official 2.2.1 update. I cant see that anywhere in your post. (Saying you applied the official 2.2.1 update).
When you went back to the Stock ROM, it was still at 2.1, which is why the HBOOT was still at 0.80. To install the official update, from the Stock ROM, you would have to accept the OTA Update, and then install it, which I don't think you did.
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when i went back to the stock rom it was deffo 2.2.1 i put the wildpuzzle rom straight over the top of it

Not possible. There is some error in communication somewhere, but, if it were possible to directly put Custom ROMs over the official 2.2.1, we wouldnt have had threads like this everyday.

unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone

ephbee said:
unless after you rooted and flashed, you then installed a ruu then updated you did not have 2.2. when you went back did you restore a nandroid backup?
you are able to install ota update on rooted phone
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no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again

chubby65 said:
no back up all i know is that after i updated i had no root on the wildfire and on 2.2 now after putting wildpuzzle rom over the top of it i now haved a rooted wildfire again
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Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD

Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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tell me how to share and i will

Bewz said:
Share the rom, maybe it is signed xD
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this is the rom i used to get the 2.2 upgrade http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LF2TWEHJ

But isn't it possible to modify oryginal rom from HTC to downgrade HBOOT , and then make Wildfire rootable? Or make some crash in HBOOT witch will allow to root? That's a lot of ways, is it possible that HTC make Wildfire really unrootable on 2,2,1? That they make unlockable bootloader? Like a motorola?

[Q] I don't get root on my HTC Aria

Hi, I already used a lot of ways to get root on my HTC Aria but nothing.
When I try with unrevoked I take the following message: "Error: Failed to get root. Is your firmware too new?" in the final of the process, I already tested on Windows and Linux and I don't know what I can do more.
HTC Aria AT&T - Android 2.2.2
Someone have an ideia?

cant root official 2.2.2

There's no known way to root the Aria once it has the 2.2.2 update installed. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about this.
Did you phone come with 2.2.2 out of the box? Did you update it? Did the store update it for you?

I updated to 2.2.2 using the HTC Aria Update.
My wife has a HTC Aria with 2.1. Do you know if I can get root with this version?

jedi-son said:
I updated to 2.2.2 using the HTC Aria Update.
My wife has a HTC Aria with 2.1. Do you know if I can get root with this version?
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Yes sir. You can. Are you going to load a Rom? If you like HTC Sense, use FR008
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

jedi-son said:
I updated to 2.2.2 using the HTC Aria Update.
My wife has a HTC Aria with 2.1. Do you know if I can get root with this version?
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Yes, Unrevoked will work on the Aria with 2.1 on it. That's the best way to root the Aria.
If it's important to you to be able to root both phones, you might consider taking it back to the store and seeing if they will exchange it for one without the update installed.

Can I make the downgrade to 2.1?

jedi-son said:
Can I make the downgrade to 2.1?
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Nope, that phone is now unrootable, period. (Well, actually it's possible if you sent it to someone who has special hardware, but not something you could do on your own.)

Do you know if the next version of unrevoked will support 2.2.2?

No.but attn1 has a found a hardware solution to root and s-off the updated firmware.look at the 2.2 rooting thread.
Sent from my Liberty using XDA App