Battery over heating - Nexus S General

Battery heats up when charging. Very hot
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What temperature is it showing when it's charging?

Its normal for the batt to heat up when its charging..but to an extent

I got the rockfish from best buy. It only heats up some times
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kjy112 said:
I got the rockfish from best buy. It only heats up some times
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Yes that's normal, but you said it gets very hot, and again, read my first reply to your post and tell me what you see, then we can tell you if your heating is normal or not.

make sure you turn off WiFi when you are charging the battery on your SNS
else it heats up really really fast and hot
that was the same on the SGS

Dude at bestbuy told me that chargers other than stock were frying the batteries
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jwr2d2 said:
Dude at bestbuy told me that chargers other than stock were frying the batteries
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i wouldnt even listen to someone at best buy even if it what he told you seemed favorable

It seems common behavior on the Nexus. My NS got up to 105° F last night (to be fair, it was under my pillow). I've simply taken to turning it off when I charge at night, but seeing as my NS is a glorified PMP (and therefore I don't have to worry about texts or other notifications on it), you might feel differently about simply turning it off.
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It's interesting to note that the adapter for the Nexus S actually charges at(and I'm sure I'm getting my terminology wrong, sorry electricity guys!) .7AMP vs the 1AMP that other smart phones charges at such as the Nexus One.
This might account for the seemingly longer charge times we've had reported, and why you might be seeing increased heating from using a third-party more generalized charger. Whether or not there's any truth to the idea that it may cause permanent damage to your device, I don't know. I would greatly appreciate it if someone more knowledgable about this kind of thing would post, as I'm considering buying a second charger/car charger. In any which case, I personally take what Best Buy/T-Mobile/anyone's first level support tell me with a great big grain of salt.

google maps heating phone up
I just had a similar experience with my Nexus S getting really warm while using Google Maps this morning. I usually use Google Maps in Car Mode with traffic overlayed as I drive to and from work (~30-40 min. drive). This morning I noticed the phone got really warm by the end of my commute, which did not happen the previous 3 or 4 times I have used Maps in this same fashion. I will take nxt's advice and check the temperature on the phone next time it heats up again. Does anyone know what is a "safe" upper temperature limit for the phone or battery? I've read that higher temperatures are detrimental to the life of a lithium battery.
Other than this one time, I have not experienced any other high temperature issues with my Nexus S in the ~1 week that I've had it.
Thanks ahead of time for any help/advice. This is my very first smartphone and I am eagerly trying to absorb as much information as I can about it so I can determine what is normal/abnormal behavior. I am loving my Nexus S so far!

I don't think third party chargers are to blame. In fact, I'd go as far as to say the opposite is true. I read that the shorter data pins on the official charger cause the device to enter a faster charging state, as compared to the usb cable or third party chargers.

I've yet to feel my nexus s get warm at all... during charging w/ wifi on. Using samsung wall charger, using LG wall charger, using computers w/usb cable.

My NS gets hotter to the touch than my Vibrant ever did, but when I check the battery temperature it is never as high as my Vibrant used to get.
When charging in the car and running Navigation + streaming music the Vibrant would hit almost 125F whereas my NS tops out at 110F.
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AllGamer said:
make sure you turn off WiFi when you are charging the battery on your SNS
else it heats up really really fast and hot
that was the same on the SGS
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Well that kind of sucks if you're using it to Wifi tether and want to charge you SNS while you're doing it.

Bump.
Today was the first time I've felt my Nexus S get super heated when charging. Never happened before. I've been charging the same exact way since owning the phone back in December.
Odd.

onthecouchagain said:
Bump.
Today was the first time I've felt my Nexus S get super heated when charging. Never happened before. I've been charging the same exact way since owning the phone back in December.
Odd.
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it depends on the usage
when i download TONS of stuff via 3G or WiFi it heats up a lot, only if i have it plugged in to the charger, else it does not heat up
However! if you check carefully, or better yet, if you take out the back cover
you will notice it is not the battery that is hot, but the area beneath the SIM card that is hot, which points to be the CPU

AllGamer said:
it depends on the usage
when i download TONS of stuff via 3G or WiFi it heats up a lot, only if i have it plugged in to the charger, else it does not heat up
However! if you check carefully, or better yet, if you take out the back cover
you will notice it is not the battery that is hot, but the area beneath the SIM card that is hot, which points to be the CPU
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I see, thanks. Will keep in mind.

FWIW, I have been charging my Nexus S with the Nexus One charger (1 amp) since day 1 - I can't stand how short the stock charging cable and wall adapter were. I haven't had any unusual temperature spikes when charging at all. I don't even really notice it getting warm under heavy load - unlike the Nexus One with the aluminum casing that conducted heat very well. Edit: I also leave WiFi on with a No Sleep policy when I am at home and I've not encountered any warming issues either.

I would be careful if I ware you.. high heat is dangerous for the battery, it might swallow and even a leak if you will keep using your device constantly at high temperatures.
I Have never had any problems with heat and I have been using it a lot.
btw, I use stock rom..

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Weirdness when plugged into wall?

Anyone else having issues with the phone when it is charging on the wall? Screen transitions get really choppy and touch screen sensitivity goes bonkers.
This is driving me crazy!
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I've had this with CM7 as well. It's super annoying.
I've had this with most if not all Roms I've used. It depends where I plug my charger in honestly. Some places the touchscreen goes crazy some places it doesn't. Why? Hell if I know lol. I was starting to wonder if I was the only one with this problem.
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I have had this problem before, but it is gone now. Could never figure out the cause...
It was never specific to CM for me. I found that at times, setting setCPU to clock up to max (not necessarily OC) when charging helped a little.
But for some reason the problem disappeared for me. Not sure why to be honest.
My phone only lags when I have the sd card mounted to a pc
It happens to me when I use one of the chargers I bought from Walmart. I think its a grounding issue.
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Happens to me on Cm roms with HTC charger.
Its an issue with the charger. I have two completely differnet phones and the same issue happens on both when I use a certain charger. It charges fine but touchscreen goes to crap. Both phones work fine on a different one.
bsims85 said:
It happens to me when I use one of the chargers I bought from Walmart. I think its a grounding issue.
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+1. Works fine with the OEM charger. But a cheap charger I got on eBay that charges a battery at the same time that it charges the phone always causes the touch screen to become completely unusable.
Not the charger. I have the same issue with my evo connected to the stock charger. It doesn't usually happen right away. In fact most times for me it isn't until charging us complete before I see a slow down.
I could be mistaken, but i believe it's a heat issue. The heat from charging the battery causes the CPU to enter a slower, low power state. This in turn will result in everything, not just the screen, becoming laggy. I've also noticed the same effect on hot days during the summer, if I let the evo get hot (like leaving it in a poorly ventilated area or heavy CPU/graphics usage), I get the same slow down.
I have not tried using setcpu but I suspect that thermal protection will automatically override user defined clock speeds.
Of course, all this is just my best guess, and I have nothing to prove it either way.
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SouL Shadow said:
Not the charger. I have the same issue with my evo connected to the stock charger. It doesn't usually happen right away. In fact most times for me it isn't until charging us complete before I see a slow down.
I could be mistaken, but i believe it's a heat issue. The heat from charging the battery causes the CPU to enter a slower, low power state. This in turn will result in everything, not just the screen, becoming laggy. I've also noticed the same effect on hot days during the summer, if I let the evo get hot (like leaving it in a poorly ventilated area or heavy CPU/graphics usage), I get the same slow down.
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Agree & Disagree.
From the world testing I've done I completely agree that heat is a cause that can cause the phone to act incredibly slow and unresponsive. I have accidentally left my phone in the car during summer, come back and hardly anything works
My disagreement is that I do also believe that the charger/charging effects the phone. Using the stock HTC charger I get an sporadic screen, sometimes immediately and other times delayed, while charging. It almost always shows up after a full night of charging (phone could/should be warm here, right?) but the moment I unplug the device it becomes immediately responsive (heat hasn't changed).
I don't know what the root cause is, heat I think is a contributor, but either way I just deal
I believe it's due to poor grounding, which affects the touchscreen.
Ive had this with cheap chargers
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yep - its a grounding issue with the touchscreen caused by using a cheap charger OR a cheap cable OR a bad cable. It is NOT a problem with your phone. Get a nice OEM cable or a nice OEM charger and you'll be in good shape.
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yep - its a grounding issue with the touchscreen caused by using a cheap charger OR a cheap cable OR a bad cable. It is NOT a problem with your phone. Get a nice OEM cable or a nice OEM charger and you'll be in good shape.
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I have this issue with my stock htc cable and charger.
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disastar said:
I have this issue with my stock htc cable and charger.
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I remember when the Evo first came out there were grounding issues with the screen (hardware 0001), i.e. if you put it down on a bed or couch, you couldn't get the notification bar to pull down. I would also estimate that there are still some minor residual grounding issues still around. I get it every now and then as well, I'm also using the stock HTC cable and charger. However, that battery theory is a pretty smart thought.
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I have this issue with my stock htc cable and charger.
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and perhaps you're cable is bad. stock cables do go bad, I've seen a few people with bad cables. They can fail in numerous ways.
If it is the cable or charger, why does it not happen on the stock ROM? Temp makes no difference.
EDIT: This DOES NOT happen with the stock ROM!
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Same cable, same charger (both stock), same outlet, does not happen with the stock ROM, but it does with CM7. I've just tested this quite a bit. Temperature is not a problem, either.
It happens to me after the battery hits 100% (on a non-sbc kernel) using stock cables, and stock chargers and my computer's USB for charging. It never happens on the stock kernel.
I'm not sure anyone ever knew for sure what caused the rash of these back in June/July, but I do know when I created the first FPS hacked kernel back then, it mysteriously cured some people's touch screen problems even though my modification didn't even remotely have anything to do with charging/touch input code.

Samsung Galaxy S2 very hot GPS + charging

Hi guys,
I used GPS for first time with my new SGS2. I was surprised how phone was hot. I had SGS but I never had any problem. GPS program is Sygic, I used same car charger, which I used for SGS. I drove home maybe 10min and phone was realy very hot, the screen also,back of the phone. Do you have same problem or do you think my phone is faulty?
Mine after 30 min surfing the internet is very hot (next to the camera and screen on top). Also i am worried about that...
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Yes this I have same, but it is still OK compare to GPS and charging.
GPS + charge is always a hit or miss. My SGS was a little better, but my HTC Touch Pro 2 got blazing hot. All depends on the device, I'm more worried about the long term effects of such temperatures to the camera, which is in very close proximity.
I noticed when using sygic with gps that the battery continues to drain even when using the car charger.
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I noticed when using sygic with gps that the battery continues to drain even when using the car charger.
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There's a good answer to that. I had a cheap generic USB car charger and noticed it drained quicker than it charged. The reason is down to a pin on the USB connector. Your phone will only charge at rate it would if plugged to a PC. Buy a genuine Samsung car charger (about a tenner) and it uses fast/full charge. I think they remove/link pins which tell it how to charge. I also found it doesn't get as hot with a genuine charger
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There's a good answer to that. I had a cheap generic USB car charger and noticed it drained quicker than it charged. The reason is down to a pin on the USB connector. Your phone will only charge at rate it would if plugged to a PC. Buy a genuine Samsung car charger (about a tenner) and it uses fast/full charge. I think they remove/link pins which tell it how to charge. I also found it doesn't get as hot with a genuine charger
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Maby I can confirm this ...
Was on a 1 hour trip using navigation.
My screen brightness was about 20%
Did not get warm and charged +6%
I use a standard Samsung charger.
Mittaa said:
Maby I can confirm this ...
Was on a 1 hour trip using navigation.
My screen brightness was about 20%
Did not get warm and charged +6%
I use a standard Samsung charger.
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True is, I have non original car charger, but I bought some cheap one. Never charge my SGS, just kept at the same level. So I am going to buy original from Samsung.
When ur using anything Radio and/or charging for a long time its gonna get hot, by hot i mean burning hot. On my sgs, nexus one, cliq when i am on long phone calls (>30min) and charging they all get hot, and get hot when using gps even when not charging. GPS on SGS is a hit or a miss though, barely use that phone for gps
Don't listen to peopel telling you it's the charge that is causing the phone to heat up.
thats just nonsense.
Its the 1.2ghz cpu.. and the close tight body of the phone.
I had the Atrix, and after 10-15 of heavy usage or just gps, the bottom portion near the sim area would be hot to the touch.
Think about it this way.
Why do laptops even in such tight close spaces have some fan going? because things get hot.
Stop the fan on a laptop and let the heatsink just do the work and it will burn u.
Its just the thep hone despensing the heat.
I personally dont' think phones with 1.2ghz processors should be made so small, and not have some time of active cooling.
Seriously even if my NAS Server with a marvell 1.2ghz CPU has some type of cooling fan!
this is just ridiculous
Mine also tends to heat up. I then always take off the case and try to get it cooled down somehow. But i've experienced it myself: half an hour gps+navigation=processor hot as hell and battery drained down from 85% to 15%...hope the latest firmware update fixes this...and btw: heat is not very good for any kind of battery. It makes them drain faster afaik!
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Mine also heats up while browsing the net and gaming but it's never exceeded 36 degrees.
skibadee said:
There's a good answer to that. I had a cheap generic USB car charger and noticed it drained quicker than it charged. The reason is down to a pin on the USB connector. Your phone will only charge at rate it would if plugged to a PC. Buy a genuine Samsung car charger (about a tenner) and it uses fast/full charge. I think they remove/link pins which tell it how to charge. I also found it doesn't get as hot with a genuine charger
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Well I have a 1mA charger which I used with my HTC Desire to charge it during driving and navigating. It worked well with my HTC Desire (the HTC Desire also needs a pin connection, otherwise it won't charge fast enough during navigating) but the same charger did not work very well with the SGS2. Yesterday during navigation the battery level dropped slowly... Even though I used the same charger as I used with my HTC Desire.
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Mine also heats up while browsing the net and gaming but it's never exceeded 36 degrees.
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What program are you using to check temperature?
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charnsingh_online said:
When ur using anything Radio and/or charging for a long time its gonna get hot, by hot i mean burning hot. On my sgs, nexus one, cliq when i am on long phone calls (>30min) and charging they all get hot, and get hot when using gps even when not charging. GPS on SGS is a hit or a miss though, barely use that phone for gps
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I did not have this problem with Samsung Galaxy S I think it was ok. Galaxy S 2 is much more hotter.
Bart1981 said:
Well I have a 1mA charger which I used with my HTC Desire to charge it during driving and navigating. It worked well with my HTC Desire (the HTC Desire also needs a pin connection, otherwise it won't charge fast enough during navigating) but the same charger did not work very well with the SGS2. Yesterday during navigation the battery level dropped slowly... Even though I used the same charger as I used with my HTC Desire.
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Hmm that's odd. I'm using the same charger I used for my sgs '1'. I have to admit not tried navigation on my sgs2 yet for a long drive. Will have to test this.
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habs101 said:
Don't listen to peopel telling you it's the charge that is causing the phone to heat up.
thats just nonsense.
Its the 1.2ghz cpu.. and the close tight body of the phone.
I had the Atrix, and after 10-15 of heavy usage or just gps, the bottom portion near the sim area would be hot to the touch.
Think about it this way.
Why do laptops even in such tight close spaces have some fan going? because things get hot.
Stop the fan on a laptop and let the heatsink just do the work and it will burn u.
Its just the thep hone despensing the heat.
I personally dont' think phones with 1.2ghz processors should be made so small, and not have some time of active cooling.
Seriously even if my NAS Server with a marvell 1.2ghz CPU has some type of cooling fan!
this is just ridiculous
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Yeah,u are right~
The competion of thickness between samsung and apple,or other android os manufucture like S.E has crushed samsung's mind.To elicit applause,the Korean giant just sacrificed the stability to make a both thin and powerful phone.
It's hard to say the choice is wise or not.But we can already find this company is becoming upset due to the pressure from the opponents.
Did Lincoln to London (135miles), phone in cradle with brightness 100%, CamerAlert and Google Navigation running, powered via USB converter in the car.
Battery went up about 1% every 20 minutes.
Phone out of cradle at the end wasn't hot to touch unlike every other phone I've had.
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Did Lincoln to London (135miles), phone in cradle with brightness 100%, CamerAlert and Google Navigation running, powered via USB converter in the car.
Battery went up about 1% every 20 minutes.
Phone out of cradle at the end wasn't hot to touch unlike every other phone I've had.
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IT seems that samsung has a quality variation. Did you use a brand charger or an aftermarket one?
Ok guys i am quite worried now. I played game about 10min and the top half of the phone is quite hot again. Do you have same problem or should I take mine back to a shop? I do not think this is normal right?

What a cluster this thing is to charge...

The note is a disaster for me when it comes to charging.
If your battery is low and you start charging it but using it at the same time, it doesn't get worse, but it doesn't get better either i.e. actually charge the thing, it just holds its own.
I have got to say I am not impressed with this!
I am not facing such problems. Charging takes pretty long yes but not as bad as you said. A larger battery will of course need a longer time to charge. But I wonder sometimes too if it's the battery problem or the charger output problem and if there's a way to speed up the process.
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I am not facing such problems. Charging takes pretty long yes but not as bad as you said. A larger battery will of course need a longer time to charge. But I wonder sometimes too if it's the battery problem or the charger output problem and if there's a way to speed up the process.
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I think it is more to do with the actual charger, seems like a trickle charge or something.
Yes if charging and using at the same time you would not expect it to charge as quick, but mine doesnt really charge at all, just stays the same.
My acer iconia will charge like lightning even when i am using it, smaller battery or not it still charges!
This was one of the things i was looking forward to with the note, but this slow charge seems to make it more or less the same as what I am used to.
I have the usb plug which comes with the kindle, might it do a better job?
If anyone manages to find a proprietary charger which can produce better charging I will like to know too
That is common the charging is very slow and if you are playing HD games then the charging is almost in negative. May be its because of the voltage of the charger inputs and it is to low. Samsung must have done it for a reason may be its because of the proprietry port or the battery itself we do not know but we need to live it
Agreed, charging this thing takes a long time. Keep in mind that the battery is 7000 mAh and the charger is most likely a 2 amp charger, pegging the charge time at around 4 hours with no other losses. So if you're using it, it should take even longer.
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The note is a disaster for me when it comes to charging.
If your battery is low and you start charging it but using it at the same time, it doesn't get worse, but it doesn't get better either i.e. actually charge the thing, it just holds its own.
I have got to say I am not impressed with this!
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No such issue here. I charge to full capacity while using all the time.
I get what he's saying. Because it draws so much power when you're using it; having it charging at the same time doesn't move the needle much. For example, if you're watching a movie while it's charging you'll probably be at the same point battery wise when the movies over. People complain about this all the time when their using their devices as a GPS. In some cases not only doesn't it charge but it actually continues to drain so you're worse off from where you started. We're using 21st century toys powered by 20th century battery technology.
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I get what he's saying. Because it draws so much power when you're using it; having it charging at the same time doesn't move the needle much. For example, if you're watching a movie while it's charging you'll probably be at the same point battery wise when the movies over. People complain about this all the time when their using their devices as a GPS. In some cases not only doesn't it charge but it actually continues to drain so you're worse off from where you started. We're using 21st century toys powered by 20th century battery technology.
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This is a better way of saying what I mean, thank you.
I also have to say one thing I do not like doing is turning the screen brightness down. After all we all get these things as they look so good, so I am not going to make it look worse when I am using it, what would be the point in that? Its a bit like saying yeah my battery life is 14 days but actually it is on standby for that time lol...
Anyway, I still believe it should be better and the primary cause is the weak charger for what ever reason sammy decided to make it that way, but its not a good thing.
It seems like I remember someone recommending a charger that was more powerful so the note would charge faster. Can anyone confirm this?
What a fail thread. If you know ANYTHING about charging, you would know why this happens and why this is NORMAL.
But why even search or educate oneself, let's post a thread on XDA and whine a bit.
It could be worse. It takes six hours to charge a N10.
I dont face this problem i charge mine when surfing the wep
On a slightly related side note, doesn't it suck that the brightness just turns down completely when the battery is low?
The zslower charge rate protects the batteries life ,reduces the possibilty of heat and battery damage trickling insures a full charge
if you don't want your screen to dim don't use the power saving setting.
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For all those facing the slight unresponsive screen please change the source of power, I had mine connected to UPS power supply as soon as I changed and connected it direclty the problem was gone.
Even if you read the user manual of Samsung Note its says thats one of the reasons
How Manhattan hours per day do you use the note? With a 10hrs battery life I find an overnight charge is sufficient
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What a fail thread. If you know ANYTHING about charging, you would know why this happens and why this is NORMAL.
But why even search or educate oneself, let's post a thread on XDA and whine a bit.
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Wow! many friends?
Anyway moving on.. so i just got my note 10.1 about a week ago, loving it but saw that while plugged in it was not charging at all while i was using the tablet and never quite getting to 100% overnight. By not charging while using, i mean to say that it was actually discharging. Yes of course i am using the stock charger and cable.. and even stock note.
so just tried something silly. Unplugged and plugged the usb from the block repeatedly about 5 times. Now its not only recognizing and charging, but charging relatively quickly even while using. To test, i unplugged for about 20 min and plugged back in. Same great results.
Just thought i would share instead of hoarding my new found knowledge like others..
Quick update: it charged about 10% in 20 min.. Nice
I don't charge mine - I paid cash for it

[Q] Major Battery Problems with Nexus 4 - Help Please

Backstory: I've had my Nexus 4 since December 2012. I lived in San Francisco using T-Mobile through August 2013, and I've just moved to Sydney. I got a new sim through Vodafone here, and everything went well. Though my battery did drain a bit faster than usual, I employed Greenify and pretty much solved my problems. Fast forward to this weekend, I used my phone heavily all day and turned it off once it hit 2%. After getting back home for the night, I used it heavily while charging and everything battery/power wise and otherwise was behaving as expected. I went to bed with my phone draining and at roughly ~40% (making a guess) and not on the charger. I woke up at ~3AM, put the phone on the charger, and when i woke up at 6AM, it had only charged to 67%. This was my first sign something was wrong as I usually get a full charge in less than 3hrs. Over the course of the day, I monitored my phone and notice that whether on or off it charges extremely slowly as in 6+ hours still doesn't get to 100%. Additionally, using the phone while it's on the charger is net negative on the battery's charge as in it decreases albeit very slowly while using it on the charger.
I had my phone plugged in last night, and took it off the charger at 2AM at 100%. When I woke up at 6:15AM, I took the following screenshots (attached).
You can see that over 4h 15m off the charger and with no use the phone drained 44% with 37% coming from phone idle, 23% from cell standby, and 15% from wi-fi. This seems ridiculous to me. Can anyone help? What kind of troubleshooting can I do? It feels to me like this is hardware related as I get the problems whether the phone is on or off, but I'm not sure. I'm currently rooted and using AOKP Milestone 2. Here's a screenshot from about phone (attached).
Thanks for any help in advance! I'm really hoping to be able to fix this with software changes as I'd hate to have to buy a new phone with the Nexus 5 right around the corner.
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Backstory: I've had my Nexus 4 since December 2012. I lived in San Francisco using T-Mobile through August 2013, and I've just moved to Sydney. I got a new sim through Vodafone here, and everything went well. Though my battery did drain a bit faster than usual, I employed greenify and pretty much solved my problems. Fast forward to this weekend, I used my phone heavily all day and turned it off once it hit 2%. After getting back home for the night, I used it heavily while charging and everything battery/power wise and otherwise was behaving as expected. I went to be with my phone draining and at roughly ~40% (making a guess) and not on the charger. I woke up at ~3AM, put the phone on the charger, and when i woke up at 6AM, it had only charged to 67%. This was my first sign something was wrong as I usually get a full charge in less than 3hrs. Over the course of the day, I monitored my phone and notice that whether on or off it charges extremely slowly as in 6+ hours still doesn't get to 100%. Additionally, using the phone while it's on the charger is net negative on the battery's charge as in it decreases albeit very slowly while using it on the charger.
I had my phone plugged in last night, and took it off the charger at 2AM at 100%. When I woke up at 6:15AM, I took the following screenshots (attached).
You can see that over 4h 15m off the charger and with no use the phone drained 44% with 37% coming from phone idel, 23% from cell standy, and 15% from wi-fi. This seems ridiculous to me. Can anyone help? What kind of troubleshooting can I do? It feels to me like this is hardware related as I get the problems whether the phone is on or off, but I'm not sure. I'm currently rooted and using AOKP Milestone 2. Here's a screenshot from about phone (attached).
Thanks for any help in advance! I'm really hoping to be able to fix this with software changes as I'd hate to have to buy a new phone with the Nexus 5 right around the corner.
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Is anything wrong with your battery? If it is in very bad shape, you should probably get a new battery.
I don't know that even excessive wake-locks would cause a phone to charge that slowly, especially a Nexus 4.
Was it on the dedicated wall charger? Have you tried multiple chargers? Multiple wall sockets?
tykate said:
Is anything wrong with your battery? If it is in very bad shape, you should probably get a new battery.
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What's the battery replacement like for the N4? Can't be an easy job that's for sure.
Try factory reset if not battery might be taking a dump
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I've used multiple chargers, usb cords, from computer, dedicated wall charger, etc. and it behaves no differently. How can I test to see if my battery is in bad shape or not? Also, how would you suggest replacing the battery?
88nexus88 said:
Also, how would you suggest replacing the battery?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlLncBp6jI
Even though the battery stats isn;t showing the phone as awake, I wonder if there is an errant app causing a wakelock. I would definitely check with better battery stats to see if anything is preventing your phone form sleeping when not in use.
mattb3 said:
Even though the battery stats isn;t showing the phone as awake, I wonder if there is an errant app causing a wakelock. I would definitely check with better battery stats to see if anything is preventing your phone form sleeping when not in use.
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The problem is that it's not only discharging quickly while on but charging slowly while off.
advocat3 said:
The problem is that it's not only discharging quickly while on but charging slowly while off.
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Agree, that doesn't sound normal. Still I would check before buying a new battery.
Do a *#*#4636#*#*
Look at Battery information
See if there is anything telling.
illru said:
Do a *#*#4636#*#*
Look at Battery information
See if there is anything telling.
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Attached is what I see. Everything looks normal to me? Not sure what I should be expecting though.
When in doubt, frag out.. I mean BBS out..
Use betterbattery stats and it gives a lot more info and may help you pinpoint the issue..
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88nexus88 said:
Attached is what I see. Everything looks normal to me? Not sure what I should be expecting though.
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94.64 degree fahrenheit for the battery. Is that high?
edit: Mine says 95 degrees
It seemed that google play services was sucking most of the juice, but this isn't always the case. I decided I was just going to go with flashing a new ROM, but even with USB debugging on and Connect as Media Device checked off in USB Computer Connection, I can't get my computer to recognize my phone via USB. I've tried this with two different cords, multiple ports on my computer, and even with a friend's computer. I'm starting to think my phone has just completely **** itself. Any advice?
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94.64 degree fahrenheit for the battery. Is that high?
edit: Mine says 95 degrees
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your body temperature averages 98.6F. keeping your phone off and in a tight pocket on a warm day could raise the temperature to 95F. so, is 95F high?
Got exactly the same problem, already replaced the battery, but that wasn't the problem. Can t RMA because I'm not on the country Where it has been bought, so I'm really with my hands tied in here.
I already thought it could be the Qualcomm Power manager (IIRC) that is damaged, but that chip is soldered onto the mainboard..
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Edit/Update: Phone completely **** out today, won't turn on, and only displays a solid red LED light for ~60 seconds after plugging into a wall charger. Good thing it's in warranty I guess.
88nexus88 said:
Edit/Update: Phone completely **** out today, won't turn on, and only displays a solid red LED light for ~60 seconds after plugging into a wall charger. Good thing it's in warranty I guess.
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ohhhh holy crap...
Dont worry. just charge your mobile for atleast 8 hrs and then switch it on.

Moto Nexus 6 to priv?

Going from Nexus 6 to priv is something I'm finally considering now that the are worth the same amount. Wouldn't have been an option a year ago, but now that Verizon allows hotspot on unlimited it finally is. Only have three concerns: Is the screen big enough for watching videos for like an hour or two like the Nexus? Is the snapdragon 808 really laggy compared to the 805? (Been reading reviews stating that) Lastly, is the single front firing speaker loud enough?
Well I have received my BlackBerry PRIV and is it just me or is the charging take forever? Plus it is always hot to the touch and gives an overheating warning when downloading apps?
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Well I have received my BlackBerry PRIV and is it just me or is the charging take forever? Plus it is always hot to the touch and gives an overheating warning when downloading apps?
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The stock charger is about 1 amp, so its really takes a long time for the Priv's 3400 MAH battery. The best thing is to get a faster charger. Nice thing about the Priv and Nexus 6 it comes with wireless charging. But if you go that route be sure you DO get a fast wireless charger, like Qualcomm 2.0, or it will take FOREVER to charge.
0blivion360 said:
The stock charger is about 1 amp, so its really takes a long time for the Priv's 3400 MAH battery. The best thing is to get a faster charger. Nice thing about the Priv and Nexus 6 it comes with wireless charging. But if you go that route be sure you DO get a fast wireless charger, like Qualcomm 2.0, or it will take FOREVER to charge.
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I think I failed to mention this, but I was using the stock Motorola Nexus 6 charger that is quick charge compatible and still experienced slow charging times. It may partially be the slightly larger battery, but I think the real issue with charging was overheating. It got better once the phone stopped updating apps. Though speaking of overheating, I have to say, I haven't seen a phone sit out in the sun for 10 minutes and overheat to the point of being hot to the touch and disabling all network connections since my Droid razr m lol. At least it seems like the priv will make a nice handwarmer for the winter. (Maybe seeing a connection where there isn't one, but the razr m had a Kevlar back to it that had a similar feel to the priv, I wonder if those black rubbery materials are a poor choice for a phone due to heat issues?)
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I think I failed to mention this, but I was using the stock Motorola Nexus 6 charger that is quick charge compatible and still experienced slow charging times. It may partially be the slightly larger battery, but I think the real issue with charging was overheating. It got better once the phone stopped updating apps. Though speaking of overheating, I have to say, I haven't seen a phone sit out in the sun for 10 minutes and overheat to the point of being hot to the touch and disabling all network connections since my Droid razr m lol. At least it seems like the priv will make a nice handwarmer for the winter. (Maybe seeing a connection where there isn't one, but the razr m had a Kevlar back to it that had a similar feel to the priv, I wonder if those black rubbery materials are a poor choice for a phone due to heat issues?)
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I have a wireless Pleson Fast Charger. At first it took 20+ hours (probably longer than that, but I wasn't going to wait around) to charge from 30%. So it turn's out I wasn't using the right wall-wart (it seems most wireless chargers don't provide a wall unit, just a USB cable), and I was just using whatever I had on hand. Once I got a proper wallwart, I can go from 20% in about 3-4hrs. Heat is definitely an issue, especially with the Priv. I wish I can find that article and link it for you, but essentially it said its better for the Li-Ion battery to charge in short in bursts (like 10-30 minutes) rather than one long fell swoop (like over night charging) because of the heat. And heat is bad for a overall battery life cycle. I don't now about you, but I'm not looking forward to swapping out my battery. That one is going to be a major surgery
You're right that the Priv makes for a great hand-warmer, which is why its part of my EDC. Too bad I live in Arizona :/

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